₦airaland Forum

Said it from the get go.
Dangote should settle with the unions.
Yes. The enemy of the entrepreneur anywhere is regulations and red tape. They are like the speedometer, they are like the ABS, they are like the brakes. But they are there for a reason. To ensure you go out and return safely. And not just for whoever drives the car but every road user that the car comes across.

I have said it before. The unions are an open window to the operations of the organisation they supervise. Without them the public will not know what happens in their universities, their hospitals, and their oil industry.

And I will say this to the public the Dangote company appeals to. The moment that window is shut you will no longer have access to information thoughtless of influence and with poor government oversight the sky will be the li.it ad to how that company will shape the industry going forward.

To me this is like taking your car into town without brakes or indicators. If it is a national asset as they say then it needs national superintending of which the unions have an important role to play.

WithFact:
Monopoly is dangerous. The effect will be devastating 😢. I can't with for greedy that would inturn, consume my humblest.
Fight your Fight .
Pumps price was 650k-700k before your refinery fully commenced operation. Now, you want me to buy fuel at 880 per litre to stand for you. Fight your Fight.

How much your NNPCL selling? That's a government company o!
Dangote Refinery is even cheaper than NNPCL. IF NNPCL reduced theirs I'm sure Dangote Refinery will follow suit . But most time it's Dangote Refinery that usually force NNPCL to reduce first

Reference:
Said it from the get go.
Dangote should settle with the unions.
Yes. The enemy of the entrepreneur anywhere is regulations and red tape. They are like the speedometer, they are like the ABS, they are like the brakes. But they are there for a reason. To ensure you go out and return safely. And not just for whoever drives the car but every road user that the car comes across.

I have said it before. The unions are an open window to the operations of the organisation they supervise. Without them the public will not know what happens in their universities, their hospitals, and their oil industry.

And I will say this to the public the Dangote company appeals to. The moment that window is shut you will no longer have access to information thoughtless of influence and with poor government oversight the sky will be the li.it ad to how that company will shape the industry going forward.

To me this is like taking your car into town without brakes or indicators. If it is a national asset as they say then it needs national superintending of which the unions have an important role to play.

Dangote Refinery should llow the Union supervise his Refinery the same manner they supervised the three Nigerian refineries ba ?

Lakeside247:
I have friends there, even laborers are Indians and earns more than the engineers that have been with dangote for more than 5years by over 1000%, the VP is Indian and just like they usually do, everything in dangote is Indian, there are more Indians in dangote than Nigerians, by more than 50%. His Nigerian staffs are leaving in droves as much as possible because it’s not sustainable, everything good about the refinery is reserved for foreigners, Dangote does not provide PPE for his Nigerian staffs, no matter how risky the job is. Bought new buses that will be used exclusively by Indians only, evicted almost all Nigerian in the staff quarters so the Indians can use those units. Some of his engineers that left, he wrote to the company they moved to so they can bring them back, you don’t want to pay them, you don’t want to leave either. All his companies is like that, have been like that, Indians ran his flour mill to the ground, he sacked his Nigerian staffs as far back as 2014, I worked with some of them back then in another flour mill. But of course, the media is under his thumb, he has influencers too so no one dares to speak. You should see the sack letter he gave his Nigerian staffs, he accused them of sabotage which means they can’t use their experience there or they’re practically bad products in the job market now.

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When you say everything in Dangote is INDIAN, Do you consider What works for Dangote, sentiments are meaningless, In life everybody has what works for them n the moment you know you keep to it

Lafarage cement was the only cement in Nig at a time they produced about 2million tonnes of cement far from demands, we Import cement greatly Until Dangote came onboard within 5yrs that Man changed everything with those indians .... today Nigeria is net exporter of cement cos of dangote, lafarage use to give excuses its not possibly they justify incompetent until Danngote came to show them, then

We have four refineries none is working because of Naija factor, when Dangote refinery started these fuuls in oil sector were even throwin shades its not possible they were pessimistic n couldnt hide it

After seein how Nigerians mess up n grounded four refineries you want Dangote to hand his refinery to a Nigerian ... so they can kill that refinery again
Shoprite under foreign mgt and shoprite under Nig mgt. differnce dey abi e no dey

In Production if you want 99% efficiency Dont count on Nigerians ...indians n nigerians no be mate for management ... we must also think like employer

Islie:
Dangote refinery asks Nigerians to stand against TUC, PENGASSAN amid labour dispute



https://www.thecable.ng/dangote-refinery-asks-nigerians-to-stand-against-tuc-pengassan-amid-labour-dispute/

Seems Dangote has drank too much shayi.
You remove Nigerians from work, replace them with Indians, and you want same Nigerians to come and stand for you? Why not import Indians to come and stand for you

slivertongue:
The monopolist should fight his battles with his likes and leave Nigerians to breathe fresh air

Cooking gas is 1,650 is he going to fight the battle alone?

I have heard a lot of talk about the unions and how they played along with the death of the government owned refineries. This is absolutely false because they have been speaking publicly about the refinery question for decades. Just that the other two sides, the public and the government have not found the synergy to respond appropriately.

Just like the other notable unions like ASUU. Has this union not been talking and protesting and striking about the conditions of Nigerian universities and the state of higher education in general or the NMA and it's affiliates about the state of public health and healthcare facilities and healthcare practitioners in Nigeria for years now.

But whenever they do what is the result. Half the populace berates them, the other half makes excuses for central government resulting in half measures at addressing issues that have deep seated and fundamental origins. So government after government just whitewashes issues and moves on.

This is where the state of the oil industry has reached despite the unions who I clearly remember since the Kokori days have publicly complained that the refineries were not properly maintained and even then went ahead to accuse the then government of corruption in executing the various TAMs.

Nigerians only need to study their history and do their part in acting on the information these unions provide on the state of our public services.

bixton:
When last did you hear that PENGASSUN was in Court ?

It is Dangote who should go to Court if he feels PENGASSUN are infringements.

Lol. Erm na actually PENGASSAN suppose drag Dangote go Court if it feels the members if her union were unduly sacked.

Lol. Looking for sympathy from other unions is foolish. Threatening to shut down the nation is tantamount to treason. In a place where there is law and order, the union would drag Dangote to court while the sacked workers protest out side his gates.

slivertongue:
The monopolist should fight his battles with his likes and leave Nigerians to breathe fresh air

Don't talk like this. Dangote go sell for us for 250 naira after fighting TUC and PENGASSAN. That man is a joke 🤣

Tjra:
Dangote is the only reason fuel is not N2,000 plus per liter.

With full subsidy removal, if we let Pengassan and other unions and cabals kill this refinery, Nigerians are smoked.

Even those supporting them will Japa to Niger republic.

Tinubu is the reason, APC is the cause.

If to say u bring down price we for consider.

How do we fight when fuel sells at 1k per litter?

owobokiri:
With pump prices at nearly 1000 a liter, while you are lifting a significant quantity of your crude from local sources!?!?!
No be only to stand up.
Do we need to jump up and down too?

FG sells local crude to dangote at OPEC approved price. Dangote only gets 45% from FG, he sources 55% of the required crude from overseas at pays at international price. He was able to crash the price of crude oil from N1400 to slightly above N800. He is telling you that Nupeng, pengasson dues apart from FG NPA loading fee is part of why the petrol still costs that much. These unions have mostly importers competing against him and they charge tankers loading at his refinery N50,000 per tank. This fee is passed on to the petrol buyer. Even after dangote decides to buy trucks and handle the logistics freely by himself eliminating the cost of delivery, if unions are allowed to impose arbitrary charges, the petrol users won't see any changes in price.

Besides, N50,000 per loading tanker x 10,000 trucks loaded daily = N500, 000, 000 per day collected as union dues. Multiply that by 365 days of the year = N182, 500, 000, 000 as union dues from.petrol tank drivers in one year alone. This will be shared by less than 20 persons called exco

Wetin dey burst pengasson and nupeng head, na the potential dues from estimated 30,000 dangote workers. The figure is big and the potential revenue from their union dues collection can make anybody head burst. 30,000 x N20,000 monthly dues = N7,200,000,000 per year in dues from dangote refinery alone. All these monies to be shared by less than 20 persons called union exco. Searchight needs to be beamed on the finances of unions in Nigeria

Some fools will still go against Dangote….i said it that it seems Nigeria is cursed….Dangote is suppose to be worshiped for even just building that big refinery in Nigeria and not in another country just like the leaders of these fools are doing

budaatum:
Our current Nigerian unions are a cabal looking out for their own interests and not that of their members, you know this! It's like, the Nigerian way.

When the working people unionize, then must, but not the current cabal.

Unionism is a scam and if I find my way to the top, I'll dare them and crush them especially nupeng, electricity workers, pengassan, and some unions that feel they're indispensable.

I'll crush them the way ibb crushed them in 1988 when he disbanded them and brought a sole administrator. All that interest them is the check off dues and nothing more.

Dangote bought his own trucks to ease fuel distribution flow and you're insisting they must be your members. This is nupeng way to tamper with the distribution flow of petroleum products to the doorstep of retailers. I stand by dangote on this even though he is a monopolist which the coming up of more refineries would check.

Winnin009:
Lol. Erm na actually PENGASSAN suppose drag Dangote go Court if it feels the members if her union were unduly sacked.

Lol. Looking for sympathy from other unions is foolish. Threatening to shut down the nation is tantamount to treason. In a place where there is law and order, the union would drag Dangote to court while the sacked workers protest out side his gates.

Maybe you should advice Dangote to ask his to employees get a sworn affidavit from the Court that they would not join any Union whatsoever before accepting an employment...

I am very sure you can do that.

Dangote is not Nigeria and Nigeria is not Dangote.

Dangote either respects ILO laws, the laws of the Nigeria and abide by them or sells off his refinery.
This is not his cement company or sugar factory.

If Dangote allow the union to have their ways and fuel is been sold for 2500 per litre who will suffer for it ….investing that huge money in Nigeria is a big mistake from Dangote…you can’t help Nigerians and get rewards for it…there are lots of gullible people among them

Minjim:
Dangote Refinery should llow the Union supervise his Refinery the same manner they supervised the three Nigerian refineries ba ?

I see. So it is the unions that 'supervise' industry. Do you even know what a union is. How does a union affect the day to day running of any enterprise from policy to actions. Any member of that industry can be a part of that union from the gate man to the manager.

Reference:
Said it from the get go.
Dangote should settle with the unions.
Yes. The enemy of the entrepreneur anywhere is regulations and red tape. They are like the speedometer, they are like the ABS, they are like the brakes. But they are there for a reason. To ensure you go out and return safely. And not just for whoever drives the car but every road user that the car comes across.

I have said it before. The unions are an open window to the operations of the organisation they supervise. Without them the public will not know what happens in their universities, their hospitals, and their oil industry.

And I will say this to the public the Dangote company appeals to. The moment that window is shut you will no longer have access to information thoughtless of influence and with poor government oversight the sky will be the li.it ad to how that company will shape the industry going forward.

To me this is like taking your car into town without brakes or indicators. If it is a national asset as they say then it needs national superintending of which the unions have an important role to play.

You sounded like you know what you are saying Until we got to the part, does Nigeria Union run with transparency n accountability to it members talk more of Nigerians
Una go just they quote textbook advantages nd benefit Forgeting We are in Nigeria ... naija factor supersede
In the last 10yrs of APC regime ... how as union helped in the oil sector, Osifo was bragging they are intellectuals .. you sat in a sector We export crude and buy Pms back in dollar because we cant make our refineries work ... and Union were comfortable with the arrangement
Dangote marked 1yr anniversary few days ago ... Dangote have made more press statement, expressing prices, decisions and direction More than NNPC and pengassan have done in the last 5yrs

Did Pengassan not cover up the PH refinery come back charade till date what explanation have they given .. please dont insult our inteligence here .. union my arse

Ruke1990:
FG sells local crude to dangote at OPEC approved price. Dangote only gets 45% from FG, he sources 55% of the required crude from overseas at pays at international price. He was able to crash the price of crude oil from N1400 to slightly above N800. He is telling you that Nupeng, pengasson dues apart from FG NPA loading fee is part of why the petrol still costs that much. These unions have mostly importers competing against him and they charge tankers loading at his refinery N50,000 per tank. This fee is passed on to the petrol buyer. Even after dangote decides to buy trucks and handle the logistics freely by himself eliminating the cost of delivery, if unions are allowed to impose arbitrary charges, the petrol users won't see any changes in price.

Besides, N50,000 per loading tanker x 10,000 trucks loaded daily = N500, 000, 000 per day collected as union dues. Multiply that by 365 days of the year = N182, 500, 000, 000 as union dues from.petrol tank drivers in one year alone. This will be shared by less than 20 persons called exco

Wetin dey burst pengasson and nupeng head, na the potential dues from estimated 30,000 dangote workers. The figure is big and the potential revenue from their union dues collection can make anybody head burst. 30,000 x N20,000 monthly dues = N7,200,000,000 per year in dues from dangote refinery alone. All these monies to be shared by less than 20 persons called union exco. Searchight needs to be beamed on the finances of unions in Nigeria

Continuing telling fairy tales.

No be only 50k per truck them dey collect as dues. If you know anyone please let them show you proof of payment and to whose account?

RayRay06677:
If the said lecturers are ASUU members, then it's right.

the question is, were they ASUU as at the time they were employed?
The answer is no!

Or didn't they agree with the terms and conditions of their employment?

And if such lecturers wants to join ASUU, nobody can stop them because it's their constitutional rights

Then it is also the constitutional right of the employer as a private business man to sack them anytime he want

and also if they don't want to join as it is presently, no union can force them to join. It's their right to join or not to join.

they only have the right to join when their employer have approved of it. Otherwise they will seek employment elsewhere and join anything they want.
Afterall it's not Dangote refinery that is the only oil company

Back to dangote, it's workers applied to join and pengassan accepted them. What did pengassan or the workers do wrong.

why will the workers applied to join without the consent of their private principal, is that constitutional ?

No matter the amount of money or companies including refineries, no man can be the law for a sovereign nation like Nigeria. Our

And you think that before Federal government gave Dangote the licence to operate Federal government have not gone through their industrial laws governing their employment and labour?

Constitution remains supreme, it's not about your emotions here but the law.

there is no where in the Nigerian constitution that does not give a private establishment to sack it workers when they bridge their internal laws.

Banks, schools, hospitals, hotels and other private business have their constitutional rights to sack their workers anytime they are found wanting

bixton:
Continuing telling fairy tales.

No be only 50k per truck them dey collect as dues. If you know anyone please let them show you proof of payment and to whose account?

Dangote himself mentioned this is the union charge at his refinery. Do you have half of the sense and know more about dangote refinery than dangote himself?

Reference:
I have heard a lot of talk about the unions and how they played along with the death of the government owned refineries. This is absolutely false because they have been speaking publicly about the refinery question for decades. Just that the other two sides, the public and the government have not found the synergy to respond appropriately.

Just like the other notable unions like ASUU. Has this union not been talking and protesting and striking about the conditions of Nigerian universities and the state of higher education in general or the NMA and it's affiliates about the state of public health and healthcare facilities and healthcare practitioners in Nigeria for years now.

But whenever they do what is the result. Half the populace berates them, the other half makes excuses for central government resulting in half measures at addressing issues that have deep seated and fundamental origins. So government after government just whitewashes issues and moves on.

This is where the state of the oil industry has reached despite the unions who I clearly remember since the Kokori days have publicly complained that the refineries were not properly maintained and even then went ahead to accuse the then government of corruption in executing the various TAMs.

Nigerians only need to study their history and do their part in acting on the information these unions provide on the state of our public services.

The reaaon why such exists still is because gullibility like blood runs in the body of many.
Though they claim to be learned but there's actually no proof when one listens to their reasonings.


Imagine people saying its PENGASSUN that grounded the Nigerian refineries and made it obsolete...!!!

BafanaBafana:
That's what the unions are for. Protecting it's members from slavery. The Indian managers at Dangote wants to treat workers as they like hence, their opposition to the union.

There is nothing like Indian managers.
Whoever they are, it is Aliko Dangote that empowered them to run his refinery the way he want it.

If PENGASSAN cannot comply to the company's rules, then they should find their way.
Afterall there are many oil companies. Dangote refinery is not the only

Ruke1990:
Dangote himself mentioned this is the union charge at his refinery. Do you have half of the sense and know more about dangote refinery than dangote himself?

Why will I have half of Dangote's sense!?

Are you referring to the same person who said not long ago that Nigerian Engineers are better than the Indian engineers that he is using to supervise his job now !!!!!

paxonel:
There is nothing like Indian managers.
Whoever they are, it is Aliko Dangote that empowered them to run his refinery the way he want it.

If PENGASSAN cannot comply to the company's rules, then they should find their way.
Afterall there are many oil companies. Dangote refinery is not the only

What are the company rules?
Does the company rules supercedes that of the Nigerian constitution and government?

slivertongue:
The monopolist should fight his battles with his likes and leave Nigerians to breathe fresh air

is there any fresh air to even breeve under dis demonic APC party regime b4?

ask urself dat one fes! 🤣

thomas2024:
Nigerians fight for you because you be God or what? You’re a private biz person. Fight your fight. You and PENGASSAN are enemies of Nigeria. Sell oil at affordable rate and Nigerians will fight for you. Supporting Dangote and PENGASSAN is like choosing between the devil and deep blue sea, lol😂

both of dem are crooks!
🤣

slivertongue:
The monopolist should fight his battles with his likes and leave Nigerians to breathe fresh air

If that monopolist did not build a refinery, you will be on daily queues, injuring yourself and others to purchase petrol at prices dictated to you by the unions and government.

You all should learn to see the truth and embrace it. Do not allow your oppressors, in this case the unions, to keep oppressing you.

How do you want them to stand for you against them? Remember because of your selfish reasons you stood out when it comes to cement, but now this one pass you, you are on your own

Minjim:
All these are lies and propaganda.
I tell you , it's a privilege to work at any Dangote company. Do you know the crowd that attend their recruitment? Even you , if see opportunity to work there won't hesitate because their salary isn't meagre. Even Graduates apply to be their truck drivers

Oga go home and manage the little money that you're paid to sabotage your fellow country men. If you claimed he's lying debunk with facts not emotions. Engineers payslip has been leaked to the internet for days, 800 people cannot be lying. Do you know more than Dangote himself who claimed that he's engineering staff are the best , and then few days later sack them ? You can defend lie for long especially when truth is without clothes


Simple question, Shell, Exon mobi, Total are private companies and they're national assets too, has the union destroyed them ? Why is Dangote case different? I know you're sponsored but posterity will judge you !

All what I would say is that they continue fighting themselve so nigerian would not suffer good things of life again and my compatriot let not keep shut, keep the good talk we would get there someday, up nigeria that stand for progress of this country

Acidosis:
But you have never stood against our political oppressors. You don't have sense.

Acid please. 😂😂😂😂