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ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

Lol, Oga you sure say you read am well and understand? OK, go and read it again, this time slowly.

Tareq1105:
It's the imagination of the Press during the 2023 election campaign. She never gave herself such title but the Press did as a way of demarketing her father.

Which press?

So why is she going about doing some stupid inaugurations?

That’s how you peddle falsehoods up and down.

ChiefOloye:
Who is arguing with you? When I'm not jobless.

😁

You and your likes come here and turn things upside down.

Small write up wey 2 years old child go understand is difficult for you to interpret.

Chief, you need to start from JSS1 again 😁

ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

it is you who doesn't understand what you read.

Rubbish







Wotowoto collecting left and right

Benin city is only the capital of Benin kingdom, not the kingdom itself, but many Nigerians don't know this.

Amayabor1:
You are actually slow. Let Tinubu's daughter call herself the Iyaloja of New York, it doesn't concern Benin people. Anybody can call him or herself anything. Her Iyaloja stops at lagos. She has no influence over any other markets outside Lagos.

What the Oba of Benin told her is that one person can't be the iyeki of the whole markets in Benin city (indirectly telling her that she can't be an Iyaloja of the whole markets in Nigeria since Iyaloja is a yoruba word. Who even gave her that title or that appointment?).

So, you guys can keep calling her whatever name she likes or wants to hear in lagos. No wahala. But in Edo state, like in every other states in Nigeria except lagos, no one recognizes her.

Oba Square said Bini custom and traditions doesn't recognise any overall market women leader whatsoever within his domain.Iyeki-General of Benin City or the larger Edo State is not a title that exists regardless of whatever action Folashade Tinubu takes in that regard.I recall there was a protest by market women and other traders groups in Benin City sometime in the recent past where they decried interference from external forces who wanted to impose leadership on thin against the age old custom of picking their preferred candidates for Iyeki.It is a straightforward issue.Oba Ewuare will not sanction the creation of such a position within his domain and for your information, the Governor will not overrule him on it.

ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

Ghostagain:
It's Benin, not Bini.

It is also Bini, google search it.

helinues:
Source: Sahara reporters

You're laughable.
Oga, major news media reported it.
Use Google
.

Yoruba wan carry their agbero way of obtaining enter bini

This Folashade Tinubu should go to Onitsha and install Iya-Ahia General or similar nonsense. I want to confirm something.

ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

You missed it. He mostly said there's nothing like GENERAL in Benin. No Iyeki General. Each Iyeki is unique to her own market. Summary.

She knows Edo people are extremely weak cowards. If she dares tries this her Iyaloja nonsense in Abia or Anambra and succeed, that is when I will pay attention to her. For now, she is an unworthy distraction.

Well said, let those who have hears hear what the spirit had said. I love my oba, Oba gha to kpe re - Isé.

Ghostagain:
Or perhaps the name is a shared name between both people ?
Why always assume it belongs to your people ?

After all the culture copying your people have done, you still believe you own everything?

You don vex
Sorry o

That lady should study history, Benin people, Edo people are a proud people and are very traditional and spiritual, this traditional spirituality and existence as a city state has been for over 3000 years... respect people's culture, she should be doing charity work not this venture of disturbing poor market women.

bjdon:
This is the difference between Bini and other places. No other monarch would dare speak to Tinubu's daughter like that

Benin empire opened up the entire southern Nigeria, Lagos inclusive, it's different, it was an empire state 2000 years ago, when the Caucasians and jews were still slaves to the Romans, before the birth of Jesus.

bjdon:
This is the difference between Bini and other places. No other monarch would dare speak to Tinubu's daughter like that

Oya na, make she come do Iyaloja for Onitsha main market. Na broken bottles and cutlass dem go use settle the matter.

Ghostagain:
Benin city is only the capital of Benin kingdom, not the kingdom itself, but many Nigerians don't know this.

Your comment is neither here nor there.
Benin-city is the capital of present day Edo state (not benin kingdom) and the Oba of Benin is the paramount ruler of the state whose kingdom covers not just Benin-city, but other Benin towns and villages.

And how does this your comment relate to what is being discussed?

jmoore:
Babablu Bulabu.

Make she come Ariaria market come yarn that.

She no fit even try am for Ahia ụmụngasi talk more of Ariaria , na even those Akwa ibom women wey dey ride bicycle from Akwa ibom to Aba go pursue her enter IMO river

ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

Lmfao 🤣🤣 the balls to question the other person's comprehensive skills yet you fail to understand and comprehend what you just read.
The oba made it clear that the title of iyaloja is alien to Benin and also that iyeki which is its close equivalent is only limited to a particular market, there's nothing like general iyeki. There are several iyeki for several markets and they're elected by the market women from those markets.
General iyeki no dey for Benin.

GeneralOuki:
Lmfao 🤣🤣 the balls to question the other person's comprehensive skills yet you fail to understand and comprehend what you just read.
The oba made it clear that the title of iyaloja is alien to Benin and also that iyeki which is its close equivalent is only limited to a particular market, there's nothing like general iyeki. There are several iyeki for several markets and they're elected by the market women from those markets.
General iyeki no dey for Benin.

It must dey, We are talking about the daughter of a President wanting to establish an office in a retome state , you saying one king is objecting, the yeye king wan risk losing his unconstitutional throne, you dey whine.....

Your statement which precedes your question is inaccurate, these matters may not be very important to you, but they are to me and I don't want confusion about them to multiply.

1. Benin kingdom is a precolonial country whose capital is Benin city.
2. On precolonial maps you can see the size of Benin kingdom, it was not smaller than Nigeria.
3. I have to stress these things because most Nigerians do not know these facts. Most Nigerians confuse a king and a tribal leader.
The Oba of Benin is not a tribal leader, he's a true king with many ethnicities under him.
Just like the king of England has many ethnicities under him.

Many of you seem to hate being corrected and would rather remain in ignorance, but I shine the light of knowledge whenever I have time. The Oba wasn't talking about only Benin city contrary to what you stated, he was talking about Benin Kingdom.

Correcting someone is not an insult, it is actually a gift I offer that person, a gift of knowledge on a subject I know very well.

Amayabor1:
Your comment is neither here nor there.
Benin-city is the capital of present day Edo state (not benin kingdom) and the Oba of Benin is the paramount ruler of the state whose kingdom covers not just Benin-city, but other Benin towns and villages.

And how does this your comment relate to what is being discussed?

Let them do their own thing their own way

Google doesn't have answers to everything, so stop thinking google is always right. What you see on Google is only what someone who might have been very ignorant of the topic wrote down.

I know the topic quite well, and I'm telling you my ancestral country is called Benin, not "Bini" and our people are called Edo or Benins. A neighbouring country copied our name, none of you call that country "Bini republic" but somehow you love to call the original Benin by "Bini". How is that fair ?

Mindlog:
It is also Bini, google search it.

There's something wrong with you guys in the south west.
You don't believe in democracy, you love corruption so long it serves you. What office exactly is "daughter of president" ? Is that a constitutional office ?
Did you vote in the daughter of the president?
For your information the Benin throne is older than Nigeria and the British had to fight against it and take it over in order to create Nigeria. The Oba of Benin was one of the 5 or six monarchs who signed nigeria into existence and defended Africa against colonialism before that.

Why is everything always different with you guys in the southwest ? Why can't you live your life and let others live ? Instead you try and impose yourself and when you are rejected you start insulting.

There is no such thing as iyaloja of Nigeria.
Also for your info, only the first son of the Oba can take over from him and that can only happen when the Oba joins his ancestors 😎
Learn other people's cultures and respect it, stop trying to impose your culture upon others.

Stop making stupid threats. We will not bow to your corruption. We will not bend our culture to entertain you.

ChiefOloye:
It must dey, We are talking about the daughter of a President wanting to establish an office in a retome state , you saying one king is objecting, the yeye king wan risk losing his unconstitutional throne, you dey whine.....

ChiefOloye:
Are you sure you understand what read or you just allowed Sahara to use your head?
The Oba didn't say she is not Iyaloja, "Iyaloja" is a Yoruba word, the Benin variant is "iyeki" which implies that Mrs. Folashade could be referred to as Iyeki General, while she on the soil of Benin Kingdom. That's neither rejection nor confrontation, as Sahara wants you to believe, but a simple call for cultural respect and acceptance.

it is you that didn't understand what's been said. The Oba categorically said each market leader is independent of the other and no one person have a say over the other. Each market and it's iyeki is a stand alone... taking authority only from the Palace. So there's nothing like iyeki general not to talk of iyaloja general in Benin

Ghostagain:
The title "Oba" belongs to only one crown in this world, and it is the crown of Benin.
The yoruba monarchs copied it in the colonial era as a way to aggrandise their status and look like peers with the Oba of Benin. Yoruba like to copy culture, I don't blame them for that, but where I blame them is that they always claim to be the original and that the people they copied are the actual copiers because "oduduwa"...😅
Just for your sanity, I shall inform you that oduduwa never existed, it's just a made up story. Ife is not an old kingdom, it's younger than Lagos and Jebu which were both under Benin long before Ife even started to exist.

The British fought Benin, not Ife.
The bight was named after Benin and so was Benin republic, nothing was named after Ife !
The kingdom with the biggest throve of artefacts in Nigeria is Benin, not Ife !

Benin doesn't copy, we remain authentic, yoruba however, they create yoruba culture on the go, through copying of other cultures including Ashanti and Benin.
Look at the newly made crown your Oni keeps wearing, did you notice that it look like the crown of the only real Oba in this world ?

You are a clown that talks without authentic historical evidence.
There are facts widely accepted around the globe. Yoruba colonized and civilized EDO.

The first people to document Edo history in books and journals are the Portuguese. Thank God many of these books have been translated to English. The records are available to showcase truth as told by Edo Chiefs and Bini Kings to the Portuguese traders.

Not only is Oba of Bini a Yoruba, even the Ogisos were auxiliaries of Ife.

Yorubas should be asserting their donations and civilization of Edo with its two dynasties instead of defending just the Oba dyansty. The Oba and the Ogiso, Yoruba own both but I don't support this overreaching attitude of Mrs Folashade Ojo.

1. History is not about what is "accepted", it is about what is fact. So the fact you yoruba "accept" your yorubacebtric beliefs doesn't mean anything to us Edo people.

2. You managed to talk about books without ever posting a link to such books nor even mentioning dates. Also for your information history is not studied in books but in documents written by eyewitness whom mostly didn't write books but rather wrote notes.

3. I didn't need to wait for any translation since I speak french and many of the precolonial visitors to our region spoke french (yeah, it wasn't just Portuguese, there were people from many European nations including Spain, Holland, England and France) who had been visiting our region right from the 1400's.

4. You showed your actual lack of historical knowledge the moment you started talking about ogiso which is a fairytale not different from that of oduduwa, your ignorance made you confuse fairytale with history, typical.

Now again, among the precolonial documents which show the precolonial reality, we have precolonial maps like that of Emanuel Bowen from 1747 which shows that Benin was larger than Egypt in that year, whereas Ife and oyo didn't exist as of yet.

Emanuel Bowen, map of Africa, 1747
Rare Old Map of Africa, 1747 by Emanuel Bowen - Pre-Colonial, Handcolo – The Unique Maps Co. https://share.google/TAYBtfNF8VsRUvJMS
👇🏿

Ofemannnu:
You are a clown that talks without authentic historical evidence.
There are facts widely accepted around the globe. Yoruba colonized and civilized EDO.

The first people to document Edo history in books and journals are the Portuguese. Thank God many of these books have been translated to English. The records are available to showcase truth as told by Edo Chiefs and Bini Kings to the Portuguese traders.

Not only is Oba of Bini a Yoruba, even the Ogisos were auxiliaries of Ife.

Yorubas should be asserting their donations and civilization of Edo with its two dynasties instead of defending just the Oba dyansty. The Oba and the Ogiso, Yoruba own both but I don't support this overreaching attitude of Mrs Folashade Ojo.