₦airaland Forum

The refinery belongs to Nigeria. Dangote is just a capitalist front.

iceking4:
You're not aware staffs has been working for more than 8years building the refinery before real operations started. This guys sacrificed alot for the company just to be paid this little. It's evil!

I know, that's why I used the word "operation"

Dangote refinery has been in operation as far back as 2017-2018 even before the start of oil production. I was similàlry employed as a procurement officer in 2019 but did not resume because I already had a job as a lecturer.
I was interviewed with others in his budillion building by an Indian/or Lebanese.
Recently, a lady we hàd the interview together and accepted the job joined me in academics.
So the dañgote refinery has been in operation since especially employing people with engineering backgrounds as far back as 2017-2018.

Ekrenji:
I so much respect FIJ for their investigative journalism!

But this not investigative na

A staff giving his own account, and not showing any pictures evidence

Not that I support dangote, because for me dangote is government mole

But from reading between the lines, I don't think this is 💯 true

When you read the drugs aren't good, how will my salary be 400k and tax remove 164k from it for 12hrs job

I thinking there are some Jara to it

MrPresident1:
The refinery belongs to Nigeria. Dangote is just a capitalist front.

Fact!

Kanixt:
Paid write up
"A process engineer who has worked at the Dangote Refinery told FIJ that staff joined PENGASSAN after years of frustration over poor conditions, stagnant pay and lack of safety measures."
Engineer no name. Engineer working in Dangote refinery for YEARS!

You need to edit your write up.

You need a name so you will go tell your papa to sack him too. I am telling you my name now, i have worked there before during COVID, and I was paid just N290K before I resigned and left. The Indian Engineer whom i replaced was earning millions monthly. I can't be collecting peanuts. I still know some of the staff there working for Dangote directly, and they are suffering seriously. Most of you will just come online to write rubbish. because you all wish your fellow Nigerians to suffer. Have you not asked yourself why Dangote keep employing unprofessional poor looking drivers to drive his trucks and be killing Nigerians on a daily basis? Do you see those truck drivers as well paid people? continue fanning evil you hear.

datola:
The situation, according to the engineer, escalated after the circulation of reports that while Nigerian workers received modest increases, Indian expatriates’ salaries were doubled from $13,000 to $26,000 per month.

Indians receiving 26,000 USD per month at Dangote Refineries

BIG LIE!

You are right they dont reciev up to that amount but they earn as high as $5000 for a senior engineer role. while the Nigerian engineers are struggling with N200K to N500K. plus the indians are feed and their flight is paid by company no cap.

xxxx999jon:
Lies from the pit of hell...where Dangote refinery want see $13,000 to pay a non executive staff monthly talk less of $24,000?

If all this complains are true ,there are other ways of pressing home their needs,e g industrial court or relevant labour laws ..it's a private firm .. everyone can down tools at once to press the management to step up not by joining a union.

my sibling was one of such affected,it's quite sad really when you treat citizens unfairly while you hold foreigners to high esteem.Similar thing happened at Huawei company in Nigeria where Chinese citizens are prioritized to the detriment of Nigerians.As a Nigerian company I think dangote should do better.The company should be the pride of the black race and Nigeria in particular

Their petrochemical plant has been working since over two years now
I have a colleague that work there. Omo, the guy ssid na Indians dey enjoy well for there and Nigerians even with assistance managerial position salary no pass 500k.
Indians are paid in dollars

CLRF:
I wondered how any years Dangote has been operating. FIJ has always been a brown envelope publisher. They did similar nonsense for NIMC, publishing reputation damaging news against the commission.

DaddyJapan:
Ever heard of health and safety?
Ever heard of ethics?
Ever heard of regulatory practice?

No sir, as someone who has worked in both the public and private sector for longer than I care to admit on NL, I can tell you that Dangote cannot run his company at whim. A refinery is not the same as a roadside Mama Put joint. Gerrit?

Bros, after all said and done,I can only tell you that the best hands will seek the best offers in every industry. If you have built a flawed reputation in Human Capital management you will eventually have to pay for it with a dearth in skilled hires.

Skilled Labour is very fluid. Companies outdo themselves in seeking out the best hands for a role. I could mention here that I have been part of a process where a company has recruited a very tested hand simply because they did not want the competition to hire him.

Your best bet in this life is to develop yourself as much as you can. By so doing you strengthen your negotiation capacity which will in turn help others coming after you.

By the way I don't wish to know where you have been/worked just like I would never flaunt my professional/career antecedence here. It's an anonymous public forum.

UrbaneHR:
Dangote should only be a stepping stone y.to your dream job/establishment. The man can choose to run his company the way he wants. You also reserve the right to stay or to leave. Arm twisting techniques will not work in a private company.

And by the way.....Pengassan is no saint. Look into what happens there and you will be shocked.

The most realistic method of demanding for what you think you deserve is by asking formally and if you are denied and yet are still convinced that you are worth more quit the job. If several people take that route management will.most definitely review their stance.

Thanks to the last 10 years this is now a Pro-Employers market.

Stepping stones to where ? If you contribute to the growth of the company, is it not fair that the company also contributes to your welfare and career growth? Why are some of you so insensitive!

If Dangote can run his company the way he chooses, does it apply to other companies too ? Consider the revenue generated by the efforts of these guys, and the hazards related to the job, most of them are dying of illness they know nothing bout for now, but will reflect later. They're exposed to harmful gases and explosions everyday, just one explosion can kill 100 people. What is the compensation to Thier family

petermike:
Their petrochemical plant has been working since over two years now
I have a colleague that work there. Omo, the guy ssid na Indians dey enjoy well for there and Nigerians even with assistance managerial position salary no pass 500k.
Indians are paid in dollars

omo with the way the Indians are enjoying in those companies I am beginning to believe that they are the actual owners for you to sack 800 Nigerians from one company

Lakeside247:
Nigerians are gullible illiterates.

Dangote is playing a game that will hurt every Nigerian but poverty and naivety makes some regard him as their saviour.

How can you delegate your people for Indians? Pay them peanuts despite the unhealthy working condition in the refinery.

They are thinking Dangote is a saviour, let him achieve what he wants by not being regulated first, all his staff will begin to see maximum shege, the ones happening is just small, premium is coming.

Then it will be extended to us Nigerians.
It's getting there already, they also want to control the retailing, then the shege will come, whatever price he determines is what we will be forced to buy.

Someone that wanted to prevent other marketers from importing petrol and wanted other marketers to be buying from him.

They now wrote a press statement saying 'in the interest of Nigerians ' loool and some are falling for it. Same way some gullible people believed petrol will be 400naira once the refinery starts working, so he will sell at a loss abi.

Nigerians can be very gullible honestly.

iceking4:
Stepping stones to where ? If you contribute to the growth of the company, is it not fair that the company also contributes to your welfare and career growth? Why are some of you so insensitive!

If Dangote can run his company the way he chooses, does it apply to other companies too ? Consider the revenue generated by the efforts of these guys, and the hazards related to the job, most of them are dying of illness they know nothing bout for now, but will reflect later. They're exposed to harmful gases and explosions everyday, just one explosion can kill 100 people. What is the compensation to Thier family

It's still boils down to the freewill we all have. Government is the greatest revenue generator in this country. How much do the y pay?

You see bros....I am advocate of people paying well but that is a function of relativity. I have worked in many places and in different roles/capacities. Personally I find negotiations for upward review of salaries rather tiring. The company only pays you what the perceived is your value to the system.

If you feel you are undervalued, notify them and leave. Trust me you would have helped more people than carrying placards and negotiating. If a good hand leaves a company it's usually a reason for reviewing reward.

This is just like the poor working conditions in Presco PLC, Obaretin Estate, Edo State. The salaries and allowances of the workers are heavily taxed. They have ceremonial Union which does not even bark let alone bite. Union due is deducted monthly from workers salaries by defunct.
It's so annoying. An average work there especially the junior staff and contract workers are heavily suffering and forced to smile except one wants to be sacked. The conditions there ain't even bad but worse.
Expatriates are treated like lords while Nigerians especially the junior staff are highly despised.

na real unpatriotic behaviour.
NASS should look at it but they are busy receiving bribes

but the man should come clean if na INDIANS really get interest for the refinery after the support nigeria government give am.

Lakeside247:
Nigerians are gullible illiterates.

Dangote is playing a game that will hurt every Nigerian but poverty and naivety makes some regard him as their saviour.

How can you delegate your people for Indians? Pay them peanuts despite the unhealthy working condition in the refinery.

Same Dangote that was saying imported fuel is bad for their cars. Only is own fuel is the purest. Whereas he just wants to monopolize the market. Nigerians have been using imported fuel for ages and we didn't die.

If Dangote refinery cannot compete with imported fuel, then he should get out. He wants to be the sole distributor of fuel in Nigeria just like his friend Otedola did with imported Diesel.

Kanixt:
Paid write up
"A process engineer who has worked at the Dangote Refinery told FIJ that staff joined PENGASSAN after years of frustration over poor conditions, stagnant pay and lack of safety measures."
Engineer no name. Engineer working in Dangote refinery for YEARS!

You need to edit your write up.

Please, don't say that. From. Experience, I am not surprised with dangote salary pay slip

Dangote is just the richest man but his workers are more poorer.

datola:
The situation, according to the engineer, escalated after the circulation of reports that while Nigerian workers received modest increases, Indian expatriates’ salaries were doubled from $13,000 to $26,000 per month.

Indians receiving 26,000 USD per month at Dangote Refineries

BIG LIE!

not a lie, Indians erarn as high as $26k, while they pay Nigerian 300k+

Curious345:
26k usd a month ? This don't sound as true to me please

it's True Bro,

TheBizGenius:
Is it that everyone here is blind and only @kanixt get eyes ni?

1. The report says the staff has been complaining about the salary for Years. Abeg, when dangote refinery start?!

2. The staff complained about taxes. Is it dangote that chops the taxes ni?

3. And the disparity between salaries of Nigerian engineers and expatriates? You are paid N500k/month and the white guys are paid $26k (N39million/month)? And you do the same job with the same standards?

Who here on nairaland would pay N39million for a job when he can get another equally competent person for N500k?

Now, imagine you are paying that difference, N38.5m, every month for the rest of your business life. Just because the person na oyinbo.

And this make sense to you guys? How?

it's true, most of the Indians doesn't know anything, an Indian Man with just diploma, will be earning upto $3k while you as an engineer earns 300k, it's crazy my brother. the engineers are even the one supervising them.

sammyscholar:
Many things are not adding up. Indians are being paid up to $24,000 per month in Dangote Refinery? Not possible!

it's true brother

LUAN1:
it's true brother

So, do you mean to say that, that's the amount they pay to every Indian Working in Dangote refinery?

LUAN1:
it's true, most of the Indians doesn't know anything, an Indian Man with just diploma, will be earning upto $3k while you as an engineer earns 300k, it's crazy my brother. the engineers are even the one supervising them.

Truthfully, I empathize with your point of view that the Nigerian engineers are good, or even better.

But let me say this here once and for all, THE NIGERIAN ENGINEERS ARE NOT BETTER.

The problem is with our engineering curriculum. The way we are trained here, as engineers, does not meet international standards.

Note: We know the basics but we don't "really" know it correctly.

The Indians probably have the correct practical facilities to get properly trained in their own country.

And when you have an expensive equipment, like a N4m Samsung phone, who do you take it to for repairs;
a. Samsung office that charges you N1m
b. One computer village table top guy that asks for just N200k?

Both of them sabi repair the phone but you, as the owner, you go fit risk am?

sammyscholar:
So, do you mean to say that, that's the amount they pay to every Indian Working in Dangote refinery?

some earned as low as $3k while some earned above $20k

TheBizGenius:
Truthfully, I empathize with your point of view that the Nigerian engineers are good, or even better.

But let me say this here once and for all, THE NIGERIAN ENGINEERS ARE NOT BETTER.

The problem is with our engineering curriculum. The way we are trained here, as engineers, does not meet international standards.

Note: We know the basics but we don't "really" know it correctly.

The Indians probably have the correct practical facilities to get properly trained in their own country.

And when you have an expensive equipment, like a N4m Samsung phone, who do you take it to for repairs;
a. Samsung office that charges you N1m
b. One computer village table top guy that asks for just N200k?

Both of them sabi repair the phone but you, as the owner, you go fit risk am?

you didn't get my point, this is a different example you are giving, which is different from operating a refinery. there are good engineers in the refinery bro. they can operate the refinery very well, they know which valve to open and which valve close. and engineer that will give an Indian man directive on which valve to open or close earned lesser than the Indian man that' knows only how to open valve without knowing why he opened the valve.

LUAN1:
some earned as low as $3k while some earned above $20k

So why was it not reported this way? If we don't ask the right questions, people will just post what they like and create confusions that is not necessary. Do you know their are some Nigerians who earn so high in that same Refinery?

LUAN1:
you didn't get my point, this is a different example you are giving, which is different from operating a refinery. there are good engineers in the refinery bro. they can operate the refinery very well, they know which valve to open and which valve close. and engineer that will give an Indian man directive on which valve to open or close earned lesser than the Indian man that' knows only how to open valve without knowing why he opened the valve.

Lol, na to operate am. Can they build it? "Which valve to open and which valve to close". They said they taught the Indians. Na so.

sammyscholar:
Lol, na to operate am. Can they build it? "Which valve to open and which valve to close". They said they taught the Indians. Na so.

That is why I kept quiet and couldn't reply oooo.

Na so car mechanic for naija go dey do patch patch for your car and they can teach their oyinbo counterparts on that. But to create the car and understand why it's working that way theoretically, dem no sabi.

At least me wey I dey talk na mechanical engineering I do for first degree and na flywheel for train and old 504 car we take study for school workshop to graduate. Do you think I will trust a Nigerian mechanical engineer with my Ferrari? Olorun maje!! Fire burn devil!!

obitrac:
my sibling was one of such affected,it's quite sad really when you treat citizens unfairly while you hold foreigners to high esteem.Similar thing happened at Huawei company in Nigeria where Chinese citizens are prioritized to the detriment of Nigerians.As a Nigerian company I think dangote should do better.The company should be the pride of the black race and Nigeria in particular

Yes the company should do better on that ..I totally agree..where I have problem is fallacy.. mixing lies with truth..that won't go with me ..yes there are companies that such practices is happening and they should be called out ..be it Dangote refinery or Huawei..no one should prioritize foreigners over locals if they are of saw work output..that's why we have ministry of labor etc so many institutions should step up ..not just the fleecing unions.