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in this thread, i intend to hold Gabrielshow24 by the hand and walk him through a proper understanding of the genesis story and its proper understanding. from our discussion so far, i reckon he has zero knowledge of God and man, so i guess that's why he has resorted to believe and faith, instead of grasping the knowledge of God as contained in the Tanakh. for the sake of this thread, just forget all the BS you were taught, we are going to teach ourselves and i hope that at the end, we will be the better for it. so lets dive in.

MSK 101

Genesis chapter 1 begins by ''In the Beginning''...but before that beginning, the only thing that existed was God(Pure consciousness/Spirit)
Do you agree to this fact? if Not give your reason.
when Genesis chapter 1 vs 1 started, that is the beginning of creation, everything that Go d created was created within[b] HIMSELF[/b]. do you agree?
what this means is that heaven and earth are within God, that is the reason we say God is omnipresent(Everywhere).
it continues by saying God created the heavenly bodies, that is the moon and sun and stars...
after which he commanded the earth to bring forth ....the animals, birds and fishes etc...vegetation and trees after its own kind. i am not particular about the order. within this earth, he selected a spot and created a beautiful garden, beautiful trees and flowers and running stream.......,He called Eden.
And everything was beautiful.
are we ok so far?

in the conversation that started in verse 24 of chapter 1, God commanded the earth to bring forth living creatures of their kind......but when it got to verse 26, God, still talking to the earth said ''Let US (God and the Earth) create man in OUR IMAGE AFTER OUR LIKENESS. And the provided the dust and with it God made a statue of a man. then God breathed into his nostrils (the same image and likeness as God) man became a living soul or a conscious being. (that is came to life)

do you agree with my narrative so far, if not what did you not understand?

in your opinion, which do you think brought the statue to life....the dust or the breath.

sonmvayina:
in this thread, i intend to hold Gabrielshow24 by the hand and walk him through a proper understanding of the genesis story and its proper understanding. from our discussion so far, i reckon he has zero knowledge of God and man, so i guess that's why he has resorted to believe and faith, instead of grasping the knowledge of God as contained in the Tanakh. for the sake of this thread, just forget all the BS you were taught, we are going to teach ourselves and i hope that at the end, we will be the better for it. so lets dive in.

🤣🤣🤣Patrick Star intends to walk me😅; lovely. So now, we have god's spirit walking god's spirit 😳through proper understanding 👀🤨. Why is it that your god's spirit didn't have ...’proper understanding’👀 in the first place? 🤨 We will never know🤧.

sonmvayina:
in the conversation that started in verse 24 of chapter 1, God commanded the earth to bring forth living creatures of their kind......but when it got to verse 26, God, still talking to the earth said ''Let US (God and the Earth) create man in OUR IMAGE AFTER OUR LIKENESS. And the provided the dust and with it God made a statue of a man. then God breathed into his nostrils (the same image and likeness as God) man became a living soul or a conscious being. (that is came to life)

do you agree with my narrative so far, if not what did you not understand?

in your opinion, which do you think brought the statue to life....the dust or the breath.

That’s adorable 😅 — so now ‘Let us’ suddenly means God and the Earth? 🤔 Wow. Just wow… So tell me, did you pull this revelation straight from the Tanakh, the Talmud, or from the back of a cereal box? 👀🤨 Because by your metric, ‘Let us’ at the Tower of Babel must mean God and the Earth having a committee meeting, right? 👀🤨 Pray tell, where exactly is the Earth going down to in this scenario — or is your god piggy-backing on its belly slide? 🤧👀

And after you boldly asserted that the Earth itself is inside your god (I’m guessing somewhere near his large intestine?😁), it now seems your god is not just omnipresent but also… self-digesting? 🤔🤧 Your god is starting to sound less like a deity and more like a cosmic tapeworm 😁. Apart from apparently needing to experience life through some kind of divine ‘re-animation jutsu’ 🤨🌀, he’s also busy going down on his belly 🤧. What a truly fascinating creature you’ve got there 😁👀.

So if everything is within your god — every thief, every killer, every victim, every crime scene — then it’s literally your god's spirit in criminals killing your god's spirit in non-criminals. Bravo! 👏👏 A god who punches himself in the face for sport 😅. A deity so wise he writes a script where he’s both the murderer and the murdered, then calls it free will. 😁

This is the first time I’ve seen a theology where God doubles as the stage, the actors, the props, and the mop-up crew for his own mess. 🤨🤧👀 Truly groundbreaking. At this point, Marvel might as well hire your god; at least Loki has the decency to own his chaos 😅. Your god? Not only chaos incarnate, but chaos in denial. What a god! 😁

Gabrielshow24:
That’s adorable 😅 — so now ‘Let us’ suddenly means God and the Earth? 🤔 Wow. Just wow… So tell me, did you pull this revelation straight from the Tanakh, the Talmud, or from the back of a cereal box? 👀🤨 Because by your metric, ‘Let us’ at the Tower of Babel must mean God and the Earth having a committee meeting, right? 👀🤨 Pray tell, where exactly is the Earth going down to in this scenario — or is your god piggy-backing on its belly slide? 🤧👀

And after you boldly asserted that the Earth itself is inside your god (I’m guessing somewhere near his large intestine?😁), it now seems your god is not just omnipresent but also… self-digesting? 🤔🤧 Your god is starting to sound less like a deity and more like a cosmic tapeworm 😁. Apart from apparently needing to experience life through some kind of divine ‘re-animation jutsu’ 🤨🌀, he’s also busy going down on his belly 🤧. What a truly fascinating creature you’ve got there 😁👀.

So if everything is within your god — every thief, every killer, every victim, every crime scene — then it’s literally your god's spirit in criminals killing your god's spirit in non-criminals. Bravo! 👏👏 A god who punches himself in the face for sport 😅. A deity so wise he writes a script where he’s both the murderer and the murdered, then calls it free will. 😁

This is the first time I’ve seen a theology where God doubles as the stage, the actors, the props, and the mop-up crew for his own mess. 🤨🤧👀 Truly groundbreaking. At this point, Marvel might as well hire your god; at least Loki has the decency to own his chaos 😅. Your god? Not only chaos incarnate, but chaos in denial. What a god! 😁

the number 2 answer there is quite interesting. i am looking at the original meaning as taught be the ancient rabbis.....

https://aish.com/let-us-make-man/

from Gemini

Nachmanides interprets Genesis 1:26 to mean that God created humans with both an earthly body from the dust and a divine spirit, explaining the plural "us" as God's incorporation of the earth's role in man's creation and his own spiritual role. He emphasizes that man's physical form reflects divine attributes and that humanity, created in God's image, possesses free will, a reflection of God's unlimited wisdom and potential.
God's Statement "Let Us Make"
Nachmanides explains that the plural pronoun "us" in "Let us make" is not an indication of help from others in creation but rather a special proclamation for man due to his unique stature.
He suggests that the "us" refers to God and the earth, with the earth providing the physical form of man, similar to how the earth provided for the beasts and animals.
Man's Creation in God's Image
According to Nachmanides, the phrase "in our image" (בְּצַלְמֵנוּ) signifies that the divine image (tzelam Elohim) incorporates both the spiritual component given by God and the earthly component provided by the earth.
He connects this to the physical body of man, stating it is a reflection of the divine attributes (sefirot) found in the spiritual realms, even though God is ultimately incorporeal.
Human Potential and Free Will
Nachmanides sees the image of God in humanity as the endowment of a divine intellect and the capacity for free choice.
He notes that only humans have the ability to grow, change, and make rational decisions, reflecting God's infinite wisdom and free will.

Where are the adherents of your faith?

Don't you think it's important to present a group of people practicing what you want others to emulate before claiming it's the best way of handling matters?

When people globally agreed to live by the same set of rules you feel they are wrong because that is brainwashing but then you keep on insulting people around you saying they are dummy for not agreeing with you.

Well continue deceiving yourself because without being organized there will never ever be any agreement you will stick to what you think is best while others do the same and when there is clashes you people pick up weapons to kill one another! Revelations 6:3-4

MaxInDHouse:
Where are the adherents of your faith?

Don't you think it's important to present a group of people practicing what you want others to emulate before claiming it's the best way of handling matters?

When people globally agreed to live by the same set of rules you feel they are wrong because that is brainwashing but then you keep on insulting people around you saying they are dummy for not agreeing with you.

Well continue deceiving yourself because without being organized there will never ever be any agreement you will stick to what you think is best while others do the same and when there is clashes you people pick up weapons to kill one another! Revelations 6:3-4

There are more than a billion people keeping the laws of God all round the world. We don't need to be in a cult. We just follow God's laws in any situation we find ourselves and live peacefully within ourself and with those around us....there are millions of us in Nigeria alone. We don't meet or proselytizes. We just do good to our neighbors....and those we come in contact with if they need it...no need to be in an organization. The idea of an organization gives the impression of a political setting with a leader who draws up rules and regulations that must be followed if not they are dis fellowshipped. They also will have to go through some form of initiation in order to join. That's a cult of you ask me. No Max, we don't do those.

We just follow God's divine commandments just like he asked. Comprende?

sonmvayina:
There are more than a billion people keeping the laws of God all round the world.

And there's no effect or difference?
Do you know the world's population?

Well it's just above 9 billion which means 1 out of every 9 individual is keeping the laws of your god yet the world is in chaos shey?

Continue deceiving yourself.

The truth is that there are less than 9 million keeping the laws of my own God which means 1 out of 1,000 people is ready to obey my own God and despite that huge difference the whole world could testify to it that there is LOVE among worshipers of my own God {John 13:34-35} which means if everyone is a worshiper of my God there will peace globally!

Man is the form through which God experiences his creation...
We are all Gods having a human experience...

MaxInDHouse:
Where are the adherents of your faith?

Don't you think it's important to present a group of people practicing what you want others to emulate before claiming it's the best way of handling matters?

When people globally agreed to live by the same set of rules you feel they are wrong because that is brainwashing but then you keep on insulting people around you saying they are dummy for not agreeing with you.

Well continue deceiving yourself because without being organized there will never ever be any agreement you will stick to what you think is best while others do the same and when there is clashes you people pick up weapons to kill one another! Revelations 6:3-4

Approximately
2.1 million, or roughly one in seven, Jews worldwide are Charedi (strictly Orthodox), adhering strictly to Jewish law (Halacha). This population is expected to grow, potentially reaching 4 million by 2040. In addition to these, many other Orthodox Jews maintain high levels of observance, while the majority of the world's ~14.8 million Jews show varying levels of religious adherence