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Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by tctrills: 10:38pm On Oct 03, 2025
DeepSight:
So you honestly mean that if you are in a war with a man who has laid siege to your house.

And he does so with the cooperation of his best friend who funds and arms him.

You will accept a deal from your attackers which says the best friend should takeover the running of your house.

Please this thing is getting weird. It appears no matter how absurd the white side is, you will support whatever they say.
Yes, I will if the deal allows the women and children in my house to survive.
Again you forgot to add some facts to your Scenario.
You left out the part that the friend of your enemy has been the one feeding you and your family since the war began and has brought about peace many times you and his friend are at war. More than once, he has stopped his friend from smashing you off. Even the land you currently occupy (Gaza), we compelled his friend to give it to you.
Now I have added the facts you left out, does it not change anything?
But even without the scenario, you actually prefer the war to continue because the US is friends with Israel?
Don't you see that with people like you, this war can never end?
You once acted like you wanted peace but you don't bother to pretend anymore these days
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 10:42pm On Oct 03, 2025
tctrills:
Yes, I will if the deal allows the women and children in my house to survive.
Again you forgot to add some facts to your Scenario.
You left out the part that the friend of your enemy has been the one feeding you and your family since the war began and has brought about peace many times you and his friend are at war. More than once, he has stopped his friend from smashing you off. Even the land you currently occupy (Gaza), we compelled his friend to give it to you.
Now I have added the facts you left out, does it not change anything?
But even without the scenario, you actually prefer the war to continue because the US is friends with Israel?
Don't you see that with people like you, this war can never end?
You once acted like you wanted peace but you don't bother to pretend anymore these days
Appointing Trump and Blair as governors of Gaza remains a joke. And you are still silent on Blair. Deliberately. Because you can see the extreme absurdity.

And no, I dont believe the bold because you will have no reason to trust them not to r/ape and kill your women and children.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by AlphaCEO: 10:50pm On Oct 03, 2025
godwinngbede:
No one should blame Israel for the onslaught going on, Hamas has now proven the west and all those who supported it's via recognition wrong

Meanwhile see what Israel promised to do should they get overwhelmed by their enemies


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MiSnHDwe_Q
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Razzness(m): 10:55pm On Oct 03, 2025
Na religious inductrinations do you like this.

Helinuse:
After running out of talking points, you believe it’s time to beg me. 🤣

I didn’t mention anything about r a c e. But you did.

The ancestors didn’t become claves because of any reason but for the fact that their culture didn’t provide the necessary tools to survive the SUPERIOR culture of the West. No west African or Central African tribe had a working alphabet or numerical system even up till today. Something the Chinese, English, Egyptians, Inca, Arab, Romans, Spanish, etc had more than 4000 years ago. 😅 Yet you don’t think they are superior.

I’m glad that you are including the a r a b s in your agree ment that they too are rampaged through Africa.

You think superiority comes by taking a stand to “believe” in the superiority? 😅 Just as how you think that Hamas has survived today because of their “willingness” to survived. When in truth, it is because of the leniency and peaceful culture of the Israelis.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by tctrills: 11:09pm On Oct 03, 2025
DeepSight:
Appointing Trump and Blair as governors of Gaza remains a joke. And you are still silent on Blair. Deliberately. Because you can see the extreme absurdity.

And no, I dont believe the bold because you will have no reason to trust them not to r/ape and kill your women and children.
Wait, Hamas thinks the US will rape and kill women and children?
Oga let's forget it. With you, this war has no end. And you are super lucky, Hamas thinks just like you do. So thumbs up to you. Your dream has come to pass. For the rest of your life you have a reason to blame Israel on Nairaland.
I am sure you are super excited.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 11:10pm On Oct 03, 2025
tctrills:
Wait, Hamas thinks the US will rape and kill women and children?
Oga let's forget it. With you, this war has no end. And you are super lucky, Hamas thinks just like you do. So thumbs up to you. Your dream has come to pass. For the rest of your life you have a reason to blame Israel on Nairaland.
I am sure you are super excited.
Be serious for once.

They have already accepted parts of the deal tonight. The rest is up for discussion.

PS: The bold is not what I meant.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 11:12pm On Oct 03, 2025
Razzness:
Na religious inductrinations do you like this.
Nothing more, nothing less. And 99.9% of Nigerians who support Israel do so from the same religious indoctrination - absurd when you think that Israel does not send their Jesus.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 11:14pm On Oct 03, 2025
Helinuse:
After running out of talking points, you believe it’s time to beg me. 🤣

I didn’t mention anything about r a c e. But you did.

The ancestors didn’t become claves because of any reason but for the fact that their culture didn’t provide the necessary tools to survive the SUPERIOR culture of the West. No west African or Central African tribe had a working alphabet or numerical system even up till today. Something the Chinese, English, Egyptians, Inca, Arab, Romans, Spanish, etc had more than 4000 years ago. 😅 Yet you don’t think they are superior.

I’m glad that you are including the a r a b s in your agree ment that they too are rampaged through Africa.

You think superiority comes by taking a stand to “believe” in the superiority? 😅 Just as how you think that Hamas has survived today because of their “willingness” to survived. When in truth, it is because of the leniency and peaceful culture of the Israelis.
It is a lie that West Africans had no writing. Just one of many colonial lies to put Africans down.

Google Adinkra Symbols (Ghanaian) and Nsibidi Script (Igbo). Also Ifa Symbology was a form of writing (Yoruba).
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Helinuse: 12:19am On Oct 04, 2025
DeepSight:
It is a lie that West Africans had no writing. Just one of many colonial lies to put Africans down.

Google Adinkra Symbols (Ghanaian) and Nsibidi Script (Igbo). Also Ifa Symbology was a form of writing (Yoruba).
I don’t need to google “Arabic,” “Hebrew,” “Chinese,” “Hindi,” etc. before I know them simply because they exist. It’s not about popularity, it’s about EXISTENCE! 😅

The Ethiopian writing style is not popular, but we know it exists because they use it.

Referring to tribal marks on the face, body or armpits as “numerical system” or “written language structures” is just too funny.

🤣🤣🤣

The only people that went close to having that was the Benin people and Calabar and that is simply because their interactions with the “SUPERIOR CULTURE” Portuguese was very early (1500s).

Nsibidi script ke! 🤣🤣🤣
Ifa symbology ko! 🤣🤣🤣

And there are no texts at all to support it. In fact, you had to spell ifa with the English alphabet.
Now that is what a superior culture sounds like. 🤣🤣🤣

For cultures or civilizations with original texts or formal symbolic patterns (eg Egypt), there are some words you can’t spell appropriately in English. Eh. YHWH in Hebrew is a word that cannot be spelt in English, same with many words in Arabic. But see how comfortable you can spell ifa. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Helinuse: 12:20am On Oct 04, 2025
DeepSight:
Nothing more, nothing less. And 99.9% of Nigerians who support Israel do so from the same religious indoctrination - absurd when you think that Israel does not send their Jesus.
It is Jeehardists that sends our Jesus 🤣🤣🤣

We see it with Bokos, Al Qaeda, etc.

They love us more than Israel loves us.

🤣🤣🤣
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 12:22am On Oct 04, 2025
Helinuse:
I don’t need to google “Arabic,” “Hebrew,” “Chinese,” “Hindi,” etc. before I know them simply because they exist. It’s not about popularity, it’s about EXISTENCE! 😅

The Ethiopian writing style is not popular, but we know it exists because they use it.

Referring to tribal marks on the face, body or armpits as “numerical system” or “written language structures” is just too funny.

🤣🤣🤣

The only people that went close to having that was the Benin people and Calabar and that is simply because their interactions with the “SUPERIOR CULTURE” Portuguese was very early (1500s).

Nsibidi script ke! 🤣🤣🤣
Ifa symbology ko! 🤣🤣🤣

And there are no texts at all to support it. In fact, you had to spell ifa with the English alphabet.
Now that is what a superior culture sounds like. 🤣🤣🤣
Ignorance. If you dont know about Nsibidi script and Adinkra symbols, thats on you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adinkra_symbols

Someone like you would also scoff at the native Americans for having no writing whereas they did - but their books were burnt and exterminated by conquistadors. Thankfully, Spanish priests wrote about them.

Enjoy. I cant teach you not to feel inferior.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Helinuse: 12:34am On Oct 04, 2025
DeepSight:
Ignorance. If you dont know about Nsibidi script and Adinkra symbols, thats on you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adinkra_symbols

Someone like you would also scoff at the native Americans for having no writing whereas they did - but their books were burnt and exterminated by conquistadors. Thankfully, Spanish priests write about them.

Enjoy. I cant teach you not to feel inferior.
Then I visited the site (Wikipedia page) and discovered that the “edit” button was turned on. 🤣🤣🤣

That is to say the publication is not reviewed talk more of verified. Meaning, it was written by any tom, dee and harry and can be edited by anyone.

Africans never knew anything about “books” or papers, or scrolls and how come their whole knowledge was “burnt down” by the conquistadors? 🤣🤣🤣 But then India that was colonized before us still preserved the Hindi writing form. The Hebrews that have passed through different forms of colonization with the colonizers at different dispensations consciously and meticulously making effort to wipe off their culture and yet up till today, the Hebrew language and writing pattern are still as original as it was.

It is only the “Nigerian” cultures that had theirs erased when hypothetical “literary texts” were burnt. 🤣🤣🤣

And yet, even the spelling of “Nsibidi” or “Ifa” was not passed down.

History is not a perception Sir. It’s not a product of peoples passion where they can write or rewrite it according to their feelings. It’s a documentation (record) of events of which is evidential, and reliably provable when probed.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by DeepSight(m): 12:35am On Oct 04, 2025
Helinuse:
Then I visited the site and discovered that the “edit” button was turned on. 🤣🤣🤣

That is to say the publication is not reviewed talk more of verified. Meaning, it was written by any tom, dee and harry and can be edited by anyone.

Africans never knew anything about “books” or papers, or scrolls and how come their whole knowledge was “burnt down” by the conquistadors? 🤣🤣🤣 But then India that was colonized before us still preserved the Hindi writing form. The Hebrews that have passed through different forms of colonization with the colonizers at different dispensations consciously and meticulously making effort to wipe off their culture and yet up till today, the Hebrew language and writing pattern are still as original as it was.

It is only the “Nigerian” cultures that had theirs erased when hypothetical “literary texts” were burnt. 🤣🤣🤣

And yet, even the spelling of “Nsibidi” or “Ifa” was not passed down.

History is not a perception Sir. It’s not a product of peoples passion where they can write or rewrite it according to their feelings. It’s a documentation (record) of events of which is evidential, and reliably provable when probed.
Ol boy, your headache. Enjoy. If you like research further, if you like believe everything your Colonial masters said about your history. Your life, your choice.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Helinuse: 12:44am On Oct 04, 2025
DeepSight:
Ol boy, your headache. Enjoy. If you like research further, if you like believe everything your Colonial masters said about your history. Your life, your choice.
“Research” is not a wild chase to prove what you believe. Instead, it is a chase to believe what you can prove.

I just reeled fact, then you respond by “research further.” Didn’t you research before you started talking about it?
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by tctrills: 4:07pm On Oct 04, 2025
DeepSight:
Be serious for once.

They have already accepted parts of the deal tonight. The rest is up for discussion.

PS: The bold is not what I meant.
Brother, I guess you are most disappointed in Hamas. They chose peace.
Also, no human living or dead has contributed more to global peace in the last century than Donald J Trump.
And he did exactly what I prescribed. Stop spoiling the Palestinians. Let them understand that the have no other option. It's either peace on the might of the IDF is unleashed.
Stop begging people to make peace.
This is what Clinton should have done in the oslo accords.
Force them to get sense.
Re: Hamas’s De Facto Leader In The Gaza Strip Rejects US Peace Plan by Wickedlywicked: 8:38am On Oct 05, 2025
Razzness:
If you think I support a terrorist group invading a country killing over 1,000 people in the most horrific and taunting manner as Hamas did you are grossly mistaken. But also if you don't see the scale of destruction, starvation and disproportionate use of force by the Isreali government then there is not much conversation to be had. Because the only explanation would be that you are deliberately refusing to see it or that you are just supporting Israel because the Bible told you to do so.
Firstly, I'm not your fellow over-religious fntics who hold the belief that one particular country is God's owned and secondly and @bolded, my friend, no amount of destruction, starvation or force is too much or can be described as being disproportionate for a serious country that doesn't toy with the lives of its citizens. You can't hurt me and still dictate to me how I cry and react. You killed my citizens unprovoked and I reacted and you still have the gut to say my attacks were disproportionate. C'mon boy, this is not Africa where human lives mean nothing. Maybe, just maybe Hamas shouldn't have carried out that heinous attack and maybe those heartless Palestinians shouldn't have celebrated the killings on the streets like those Jews killed were some soulless animals that had no ambitions, aspirations and dreams. I and every other reasonable person will never call the US pounding of Japan at the end of WW2 a disproportionate use of force because they didn't carry out the attacks unprovoked. Maybe, just maybe people should always have at the back of their minds that actions have consequences and that those you hurt always respond in the most painful way to send you a strong warning that they are not who you can mess with and that future attacks wouldn't be tolerated in any way. There wouldn't be Hiroshima--Nagasaki disaster if there was no pearl Harbour massacre; there would be no total destruction of Gaza if there was no Oct 7 and if the Palestinians were not acting complicit by celebrating Hamas on the night of the bloodshed. It's simply difficult to tell who is who in Gaza as the entire populace tends to be openly sentimental to Hamas's cause. When next you are about to do something not so reasonable, take a moment and consider the consequences first. What you just described as a disproportionate use of force is actually a serious country telling you her country is not Nigeria where human life is worth nothing; it's simply Israel telling you that no Jew deserved to be killed or kidnapped in such a gruesome manner. To tell you I'm right about you (the fact that human lives mean nothing here in this part of the world), none of you black Hamas's apologists is saying anything about that Tanzanian boy stabbed and shot for no just reason by Hamas since he's African. A typical Jewish or European or American person or country wouldn't let that slide.
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