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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 4:56pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
And James doesn't play RB and take on those positions? Against Man Utd, James played RB, but who was the RWB giving United all sorts of problems? You havnets seen James play inverted RB before?
I said James has SIMILAR traits but that he's a 7 by weighted average whilst Hakimi will be an 8 or 8.5.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 4:59pm On Oct 04, 2025
The way you set your team up to play determines your results.

I cannot simply be blaming the defence when EM has set us to play timidly.

Look at how arsenal has taken the challenge on westham nicely without inviting unnecessary pressure to themselves.

Every players knows what to do when with the ball and each kind find their teammates easily.

I bet if we had been in arsenal shoes today and score westham first we would have find a way to invite pressure to ourselves and conceded.

Then we turn around and blame everyone including the players,goalposts,fans,Fulham road,London bridge, River Thames,Westminster, London eye and whatever but the EM.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:00pm On Oct 04, 2025
Getting ready for EM huffing and puffing football.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:01pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
I said James has SIMILAR traits but that he's a 7 by weighted average whilst Hakimi will be an 8 or 8.5.
Then why were you supporting Trevor when he insinuated that James playing out of position is a weakness?

BTW that rating is your opinion. I can as well tell you Hakimi is a 7 while James is a 9.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:02pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
Comprehension.

Hakimi literally plays some if not ALL of those roles in the SAME GAME. I said so. You give the players with more abilities, more assignments.

MorataFC, see again why language comprehension is important?
Comprehension.

James playing inverted RB, is it in different games? The Man United example I gave, is it in different games?

There is absolutely no way you can excuse this your capping.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:04pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
"Doesn't mean he's a better RB". No $hxt Sherlock. For the umpteenth time, NOBODY SAID GUSTO is a better player than Reece.

No, he's not EQUALLY good. That's my point. If he was, you wouldn't make him adapt to a less favorable position. Nobody does that with Hakimi.

You won't play Donnarumma as a striker in the same game that Betinelli is your GK for e.g
Then what point are you trying to make when you ask who was better in the final between Gusto and James? Just an urge to turn amala?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:09pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
Then what point are you trying to make when you ask who was better in the final between Gusto and James? Just an urge to turn amala?
You told me James was played out of his fave position for Gusto, right?

That's like saying Kante was played as a CB so that Enzo would play DM. Will you do that if Kante is the best DM ever when fit? Be honest with yourself.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by zeusis(m): 5:11pm On Oct 04, 2025
I no like dey see Gusto anywhere near this club man
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:12pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
Then why were you supporting Trevor when he insinuated that James playing out of position is a weakness?

BTW that rating is your opinion. I can as well tell you Hakimi is a 7 while James is a 9.
Comprehension AGAIN.

Trevor012 said moving James out of his fave position weakens your defense of him as better than Hakimi.

In other words, that you guys should make better or more compelling arguments.

My rating isn't my opinion. Use data to show that James for e.g assists better than Hakimi. Let me see you try.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:15pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
Comprehension.

James playing inverted RB, is it in different games? The Man United example I gave, is it in different games?

There is absolutely no way you can excuse this your capping.
Comprehension. You tried to make hypotheticals about supposed games that Hakimi was played out of position.

Now you've relayed it back to a United game example that I responded by saying "James has SIMILAR traits" which means Haaland & Hojlund for e.g have similar traits.

Yet, Haaland is a 10 and Hojlund is at best a 7.5.

COM-PRE-HEN-SION
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 5:16pm On Oct 04, 2025
Abeg, If my English is giving you migraine abeg leave this thread and go to educational thread on Nairaland, there you will find perfect use of english, but this is sport thread , and we use sporting language here, even the best of coach are not that fluent in English and do better than those who born in English country.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by StarchAndBanga: 5:18pm On Oct 04, 2025
Game day!!

Don't lose today is all I ask for!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:19pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
You told me James was played out of his fave position for Gusto, right?

That's like saying Kante was played as a CB so that Enzo would play DM. Will you do that if Kante is the best DM ever when fit? Be honest with yourself.
I never said that.

I told you Maresca played James in midfield to nullify the PSG midfield 3. That was the tactic. Every other thing comes after. It could have been anybody in RB..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 5:19pm On Oct 04, 2025
StarchAndBanga:
Game day!!

Don't lose today is all I ask for!!!
I pray so ooo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:19pm On Oct 04, 2025
And when I say Haaland is a 10, I don't mean an attacking midfielder. I mean 10/10 as a Striker like he's perfect.

Slowbinuses, Moe/ (rawn)/ natas, beware.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:20pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
I never said that.

I told you Maresca played James in midfield to nullify the PSG midfield 3. That was the tactic. Every other thing comes after. It could have been anybody in RB..
But it was Gusto, right? He even did the heavy lifting for like 2 of the goals, right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 5:23pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
But it was Gusto, right? He even did the heavy lifting for like 2 of the goals, right?
Sanchez was superhuman that day with World class saves... What's your point?

Please allow me watch my match. Tenkio.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:23pm On Oct 04, 2025
Pep's English isn't great but he's football logic is great.

I don't care about your English, I care about the logical arguments you make.

COM-PRE-HEN-SION.

Sheesh.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 5:23pm On Oct 04, 2025
grin grin grin
Keep confusing yasef grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 5:24pm On Oct 04, 2025
Android22:
See your post that I reposted for you.

Why did I ask you who was better? Reece was made to adapt to a less familiar position than Gusto. No coach will move Hakimi out of RB. They'll play him there and ask him to take on ST, RW, DM, RWB duties as well. That's my point.

Hakimi is a system on his own.
You've already said that Hakimi is better than James, some agreed, some didn't. I personally think Hakimi is better simply because the most important aspect of football is fitness level/availability, talent/work ethics is next after that. As such, I go with Hakimi. But I feel attackers will prefer to face Hakimi than James. You can't show your talent if you're not fit. It's why no Liverpool fan will rate Aquilani higher than average Jordan Henderson.

Now the emboldened is not so straightforward. Coaches constantly adapt their system depending on matches to different players. It depends my man and it's not set in stones at all.

Check the screen shots, your Pep had Raphinha at right back in the UCL against the best team in Europe that year. Name a better right back in Germany football history than Philip Lahm yet he was pushed to the midfield.

In the UCL semis Vs Juventus, this is Don Carlo playing Ramos; greatest defender in Spain in midfield. Ramos trumps both Varane/Pepe at CB yet he was moved out of his favourite position.

See the screen shots below

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:24pm On Oct 04, 2025
timbros:
Sanchez was superhuman that day with World class saves... What's your point?

Please allow me watch my match. Tenkio.
Exactly. Nobody played Sanchez as CDM even though he's prone to the occasional error here and there as a GK, right? He was played in his FAVORITE position. That's why Trevor said what he said.

Thanks for your attention on this matter. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android22: 5:27pm On Oct 04, 2025
AirBere:
You've already said that Hakimi is better than James, some agreed, some didn't. I personally think Hakimi is better simply because the most important aspect of football is fitness level/availability, talent/work ethics is next after that. As such, I go with Hakimi. But I feel attackers will prefer to face Hakimi than James. You can't show your talent if you're not fit. It's why no Liverpool fan will rate Aquilani higher than average Jordan Henderson.

Now the emboldened is not so straightforward. Coaches constantly adapt their system depending on matches to different players. It depends my man and it's not set in stones at all.

Check the screen shots, your Pep had Raphinha at right back in the UCL against the best team in Europe that year. Name a better right back in Germany football history than Philip Lahm.

In the UCL semis Vs Juventus, this is Don Carlo playing Ramos; greatest defender in Spain in midfield. Ramos trumps both Varane/Pepe at CB yet he was moved out of his favourite position.

See the screen shots below
You're not wrong and I might come back to this but this is entirely different.

You're also fair in saying wingers may prefer to play against Hakimi than James. An argument can be made for that. But the reverse may also be true. That's why Pedro Neto was forced to play LB instead of LW vs Hakimi.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bluelines69: 5:27pm On Oct 04, 2025
Charity FC, Wirtz fit enter end him drought
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 5:28pm On Oct 04, 2025
popizaino:
Getting ready for EM huffing and puffing football.
E no late to off your TV ooo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:29pm On Oct 04, 2025
AirBere:
You've already said that Hakimi is better than James, some agreed, some didn't. I personally think Hakimi is better simply because the most important aspect of football is fitness level/availability, talent/work ethics is next after that. As such, I go with Hakimi. But I feel attackers will prefer to face Hakimi than James. You can't show your talent if you're not fit. It's why no Liverpool fan will rate Aquilani higher than average Jordan Henderson.

Now the emboldened is not so straightforward. Coaches constantly adapt their system depending on matches to different players. It depends my man and it's not set in stones at all.

Check the screen shots, your Pep had Raphinha at right back in the UCL against the best team in Europe that year. Name a better right back in Germany football history than Philip Lahm.

In the UCL semis Vs Juventus, this is Don Carlo playing Ramos; greatest defender in Spain in midfield. Ramos trumps both Varane/Pepe at CB yet he was moved out of his favourite position.

See the screen shots below
You be OG. grin

You remember Aquilani.

Nostalgic!

Nothing way RB no sign that year just to win league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 5:29pm On Oct 04, 2025
5&6 bugodi chukwu zoba.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by nateevs(m): 5:31pm On Oct 04, 2025
lordfalcao:
E no late to off your TV ooo
Hehehe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by popizaino(m): 5:33pm On Oct 04, 2025
I like Acheampong sha.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Thecassanova: 5:39pm On Oct 04, 2025
Lavia is the only one I can bank on to dictate tempo against pool.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 5:39pm On Oct 04, 2025
This Loserpool keeper is suspect, if Chelsea mount enough pressure he will mess up.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Bluelines69: 5:41pm On Oct 04, 2025
What I’ll sacrifice for some fast football in this team, I really despise this kind of football
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