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Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) - Christianity Etc (7) - Nairaland

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Re: Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:12am On Oct 08, 2025
Arostar2023:
You are still majoring on the minor, while ignoring the weightier things of the scriptures. You are just grappling at straws to justify JW teachings, not biblical truths. You quoted Mathew 28:19-20, the great commission by Jesus Christ, as your stand for the justification of door-to-door preaching as the only accepted method of spreading the good news. I asked you to show me where it mentioned 'door-to-door" and you couldn't provide any evidence of that.

There's no record of the early disciples preaching from door-to-door. Apostles and disciples like Paul preached in the market places, synagogues, homes etc. Door-to-door evangelism is effective, no argument about that, but it's not the only effective way of spreading the gospel of Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Again this is what Jesus commanded us:

"When you enter the HOUSE, greet the HOUSEHOLD. Matthew 10:12

Please what is Jesus talking about when he mentioned "HOUSE" and "HOUSEHOLD" here?

And as for Paul this is what he said:

"while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from HOUSE to HOUSE." Act 20:20

So there is no excuse Sir! smiley

Arostar2023:
By the way, how do you preach door-to-door in a place like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia? Or are we not supposed to reach them with the gospel?
Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door in all those Arab countries it's only China that house to house preaching is prohibited so we obey Jesus' command to leave such a territory but where there is freedom of speech, expression and worship nothing should stop us from preaching and teaching from house to house! 1Corinthans 9:16

Meanwhile you keep mentioning my religion (church) because you can see that what i am quoting is exactly what we practice can you also mention the name of your own religion (church) as you people often call it?
At least you can see how faithful we are to what we believe in Christ so can you too present your own church because it's obvious that you are not on the same page with many here which means you people are not having the same line of thought as Jesus Christ prayed for his disciples! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8🙂
Re: Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) by Arostar2023: 7:07am On Oct 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Again this is what Jesus commanded us:

"When you enter the HOUSE, greet the HOUSEHOLD. Matthew 10:12

Please what is Jesus talking about when he mentioned "HOUSE" and "HOUSEHOLD" here?

And as for Paul this is what he said:

"while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from HOUSE to HOUSE." Act 20:20

So there is no excuse Sir! smiley


Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door in all those Arab countries it's only China that house to house preaching is prohibited so we obey Jesus' command to leave such a territory but where there is freedom of speech, expression and worship nothing should stop us from preaching and teaching from house to house! 1Corinthans 9:16

Meanwhile you keep mentioning my religion (church) because you can see that what i am quoting is exactly what we practice can you also mention the name of your own religion (church) as you people often call it?
At least you can see how faithful we are to what we believe in Christ so can you too present your own church because it's obvious that you are not on the same page with many here which means you people are not having the same line of thought as Jesus Christ prayed for his disciples! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8🙂
Below are the very words of Jesus Christ, which we evangelicals called the "Great Commission". There's no place in the commandment where Jesus restricted His followers to a certain method in the propagation of the gospel. So I honestly don't know what you argument is all about. If the method you choose is effective for you and you have systems put in place to support that, go for it by all means.

Matt.28.18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matt.28.19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matt.28.20 - Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

In the book of Acts of the Apostles, in chapter 2, during the day of Pentecost Peter stood and shared the gospel to a large number of people at the same time, and three thousand souls were added to the church. In the same book (Acts), different methods, depending on the individual's circumstances were used to preach the gospel.

From the scripture you quoted, Paul said he preached "publicly" and "house to house", that also establishes my argument that the scriptures never restricted Christians to only "house to house" witnessing or preaching of the gospel. The early church was never restricted as to the method of spreading the gospel. JW may have adopted house to house as their preferred method, that doesn't mean that all Christians must follow their pattern.

Like I mentioned earlier my church explore all avenues to preach the gospel...we are not restricted in any way. And let me give you a shocker ...did you know that there was a time when JW people where moving around with public address systems to preach the gospel? I guess you don't know that. I know because my grandfather did that in the olden days. As for JW preaching the gospel from house to house in Arabian and hostile environments, that's an argument for another day.

And finally, preaching or teaching door to door does not earn one salvation .
Re: Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Oct 08, 2025
Now that you have agreed that Jesus is the initiator of house to house preaching and seen that apostle Paul also engaged in the house to house preaching and teaching it's time to show you why it's the only means of salvation! smiley

Before Jesus there was never a time any prophet knocked on people's doors to preach it has always been a town crying thing where the prophet will be shouting in their streets but when John the baptist started his preaching instead of shouting in their streets he was shouting in the wilderness! John 1:23
WHY?
Because as at that time Jews were under a colonial master (ROME) so shouting in their streets has been banned because that's how zealots (terrorist Jews fighting for liberation) always do to gather followers so if anyone try it Roman soldiers will get such a person arrested.
And by the time Jesus established the preaching and teaching he made sure that he doesn't disturb the neighborhood with noise first of all to avoid being arrested by Roman soldiers and also in fulfilment of the prophecy about the Christ which says he will not shout in their streets! Isaiah 42:2 compare to Matthew 12:19
Another reason is to make the work really effective so that both the preacher and his listener may interact meaningfully by opening the scriptures to get the sense of what they both need to do, in fact Malachi the last prophecy of the Old Testament said:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

Why is a book of remembrance written for those engaging in this activity?

The last book of the New Testament answered:

Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire. Revelations 20:15

So those who aren't engaging in this activity will be DESTROYED!

WHY?

Because they disobeyed the word of God who is Jesus Christ {John 1:1; Revelations 19:13} and Jesus himself told us that disobedience to his command will mean destruction for all those ignoring his orders! John 3:16-18

God Himself warned us to listen and obey whatever Jesus command us to do {Matthew 17:5 compare to Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so it's not a matter of options but complete submission anytime that name "JESUS" is mentioned:

so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground. Philippians 2:10

If all those claiming Christians must go to knock on their neighbors doors to preach the Kingdom of God how do you think anyone who is a politician can claim to be a Christian? Luke 18:18-23

Do you think all those in the house of assembly and Senate can claim they are Christians if they have to knock on the doors of their neighbors to preach and entertain questions like Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today?

Well it's not what we choose to believe but what God commanded through the mouth of His only begotten Son so you need HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS to be saved {Zephaniah 2:2-3} that is if you truly want to be saved!🙂

Arostar2023:
And finally, preaching or teaching door to door does not earn one salvation .
Re: Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) by Arostar2023: 8:09pm On Oct 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Now that you have agreed that Jesus is the initiator of house to house preaching and seen that apostle Paul also engaged in the house to house preaching and teaching it's time to show you why it's the only means of salvation! smiley

Before Jesus there was never a time any prophet knocked on people's doors to preach it has always been a town crying thing where the prophet will be shouting in their streets but when John the baptist started his preaching instead of shouting in their streets he was shouting in the wilderness! John 1:23
WHY?
Because as at that time Jews were under a colonial master (ROME) so shouting in their streets has been banned because that's how zealots (terrorist Jews fighting for liberation) always do to gather followers so if anyone try it Roman soldiers will get such a person arrested.
And by the time Jesus established the preaching and teaching he made sure that he doesn't disturb the neighborhood with noise first of all to avoid being arrested by Roman soldiers and also in fulfilment of the prophecy about the Christ which says he will not shout in their streets! Isaiah 42:2 compare to Matthew 12:19
Another reason is to make the work really effective so that both the preacher and his listener may interact meaningfully by opening the scriptures to get the sense of what they both need to do, in fact Malachi the last prophecy of the Old Testament said:

At that time those who fear Jehovah spoke with one another, each one with his companion, and Jehovah kept paying attention and listening. And a book of remembrance was written before him for those fearing Jehovah and for those meditating on his name. Malachi 3:16

Why is a book of remembrance written for those engaging in this activity?

The last book of the New Testament answered:

Furthermore, whoever was not found written in the book of life was hurled into the lake of fire. Revelations 20:15

So those who aren't engaging in this activity will be DESTROYED!

WHY?

Because they disobeyed the word of God who is Jesus Christ {John 1:1; Revelations 19:13} and Jesus himself told us that disobedience to his command will mean destruction for all those ignoring his orders! John 3:16-18

God Himself warned us to listen and obey whatever Jesus command us to do {Matthew 17:5 compare to Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so it's not a matter of options but complete submission anytime that name "JESUS" is mentioned:

so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground. Philippians 2:10

If all those claiming Christians must go to knock on their neighbors doors to preach the Kingdom of God how do you think anyone who is a politician can claim to be a Christian? Luke 18:18-23

Do you think all those in the house of assembly and Senate can claim they are Christians if they have to knock on the doors of their neighbors to preach and entertain questions like Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today?

Well it's not what we choose to believe but what God commanded through the mouth of His only begotten Son so you need HUMILITY and RIGHTEOUSNESS to be saved {Zephaniah 2:2-3} that is if you truly want to be saved!🙂
It's amazing how people, in the name of a founder and some called elders, will distort scriptures to suit his narratives and led countless other humans to believe and defend the same. No wonder some religious organizations are referred to as cults.

I am not here to win an argument but to point out the truth as it's written in the scriptures... it's up to you to do what you like with it. I have no personal opinion about salvation, only what I read in the scriptures and I have shown the same to you. Bye friend.
Re: Elon Musk Shares Erika Kirk's Call To "Go To Church" As Attendance Soars(Photo) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44pm On Oct 08, 2025
This is your first time quoting me on this forum and i decided to show you the stuff JWs are made of.
Arostar2023:
You guys are subtly reforming... before one had to belong to JW to be counted a paradise candidate. Abi I like?
I purposely engaged you to prove that what you typed with your own hands about JWs is a reality! wink

YES! If you are not one of us you can't be a worshiper of our God at least you can see for yourself that it's not just about someone telling me what to believe but i myself presenting everything to you in black and white as it's written in God's word.

Arostar2023:
I am not here to win an argument but to point out the truth as it's written in the scriptures...
Please next time look before you leap i noticed you are not really interested in spiritual matters you just feel like throwing one or two words at JWs since you see others doing the same. From your profile you don't have interest in Godly devotion so the system says what matters mostly to you is politics.

So if you are doubting before know today that it's established fact only Jehovah's Witnesses and those listening to us with a view to learn will enter the Kingdom of our God that is what Malachi 3:16 and Revelations 20:15 revealed.

Thanks for your time! smiley

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