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Anytime the Nobel Prize for outstanding scientists, economists, and other fields benefitting humanity is announced yearly, hardly can you see a Muslim name there.

Science, Mathematics, all civilizations started in the now Islam dominated portions of the world.

Why is this?

MightySparrow:
Anytime the Nobel Prize for outstanding scientists, economists, and other fields benefitting humanity is announced yearly, hardly can you see a Muslim name there.

Science, Mathematics, all civilizations started in the now Islam dominated portions of the world.

Why is this?

Has any Muslim you know done anything spectacular that deserves the Nobel. You think everything is about religion?
Grow up

There's not been so many but there's been some.

https://platform.ilke.org.tr/analyze/leading-science-muslim-nobel-laureates-in-science#!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saleemali/2023/10/01/nobel-prizes-science-and-islam/

Exousiang01:
Has any Muslim you know done anything spectacular that deserves the Nobel. You think everything is about religion?
Grow up

Yes, there have been many Muslims that have done spectacular things that deserve the Nobel, and the fact you don't know is more indicative of you.

budaatum:
Yes, there have been many Muslims that have done spectacular things that deserve the Nobel, and the fact you don't know is more indicative of you.

And you are sure you know the yardstick Nobel uses?

Mention them and their exploits we wan hear

Exousiang01:
And you are sure you know the yardstick Nobel uses?

Mention them and their exploits we wan hear

Read.

https://www.nairaland.com/8535618/why-muslims-not-winning-nobel#137059937

Wetin dem know ? Na sword or dagger 🗡️

Exousiang01:
Has any Muslim you know done anything spectacular that deserves the Nobel. You think everything is about religion?
Grow up

The Arabic world was leading in all aspects of civilizations. An Islamic scholar named Abu Hamid Ghazali brought darkness into Muslim world when he interpreted the Quran as against investigation into nature. He claimed that revelations of the scriptures is superior to investigation and study of science.

That alone plunged the Islamic world deeper into darkness. The only response from the Islamic world is terrorism. They preach hate and use their money to sponsor terrorists rather than scientific research. They are building mosques rather than institutions.

budaatum:
There's not been so many but there's been some.

https://platform.ilke.org.tr/analyze/leading-science-muslim-nobel-laureates-in-science#!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saleemali/2023/10/01/nobel-prizes-science-and-islam/

Only two and half persons won Nobel Prize. Mohammed Abdus Salaam jointly won Nobel prize in physics with other two Americans. Jews have won about 25% of all the prizes. Others, Hindus, Buddhist, Christians have dominated fields of knowledge. Islamic world filled with illiterates are claiming knowledge of Quran that has never produced any reasonable things to benefit humanity.

MightySparrow:
Anytime the Nobel Prize for outstanding scientists, economists, and other fields benefitting humanity is announced yearly, hardly can you see a Muslim name there.

Islam is regressive. It basically offers 2 choices; 7th century Saudi Arabia or 20th Century Afghanistan. Slim pickings, and hardly fertile ground for reason, rational thinking, scientific enquiry and technological advancement. The Judeo-Christian worldview on the other hand does just that. evidenced by their advancement and institutions Not so much the madrassa and ile Kéwú.

MightySparrow:
Science, Mathematics, all civilizations started in the now Islam dominated portions of the world.

That is an outright lie. Firstly, oftentimes post-conquest, islamc rulers allowed centres of knowledge and education to continue as they were, but they were all re-labelled as muslim - like conquerors are wont to do.

Secondly, all the discoveries attributed to Islamic scholarship were already discovered by other civilisations (mainly Greeks and even Hindus). Per point 1 above, for a time Islam allowed extant centres of knowledge to continue and even flourish, and were particularly noted for collating and translating extant scientific literature.

Nothing new or conducive to humanities flourishing and advancement has or can emanate from a wholly Islam milieu - feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

budaatum:
Yes, there have been many Muslims that have done spectacular things that deserve the Nobel, and the fact you don't know is more indicative of you.

Wrong. Or at best misleading. Muslim recipients of Nobel Prizes tend to be enabled by, and emerge from, the Western milieu. It's not about ethnicity or race, it's about cultural and sectarian morés. I trust this was not an attempt to obfuscate?

Demonstrated by the overweight of Jews in the Nobel Peace prize stakes. Barely 15million people outperform a 2 billion ummah. Please humanity needs Jews - like wow !


TV

TV01:
Wrong. Or at best misleading. Muslim recipients of Nobel Prizes tend to be enabled by, and emerge from, the Western milieu.

I'm certain you feel they are not Muslims therefore, but if you are interested, here's a list of some inventions that came out the Muslim world.

And it's not their fault there were no Nobels for any of them.

budaatum:
I'm certain you feel they are not Muslims therefore, but if you are interested, here's a list of some inventions that came out the Muslim world.

And it's not their fault there were no Nobels for any of them.

Invention and advancements are two very different things. Invention can account for 1% of progress made in a thing or field and advancement 99%. The noble prizes are largely advancements. Coffee for example was invented by an accidental encounter and thats down to geography of God's creation and formation process. The plant qas growing innocently, goats grazed it randomly, misbehaved, and that prompted someone to ask basic questions about what the goats were always grazing just about when they always misbehaved.
Same coffee has since been advanced by another set of folks to the point the discovery is almost, if not, useless.

If it was only invention that counts, the lecturers in universities wont be looking for advancement in the body of knowledge the way they do. Only invention of something new will count to them.

Your list is laughable at best. What about polytechnics and crafts schools, who invented those? 99% of what is thought in those universities, who advanced those?

It is like saying a certain village X invented road syatem but dont have roads. A road is just a path connecting two desirable locations. Was it asphalt or concrete or bamboo or stone or clay or reinforced sand roads they invented?

Your lisst is even vague.

CodeTemplarr:
Invention and advancements are two very different things. Invention can account for 1% of progress made in a thing or field and advancement 99%. The noble prices are largely advancements.

Nobel prizes that they gave mostly to people on their own side of the world or what?

Or do you think they'd give a Nobel to an Iranian who comes up with an invention or advancement today?

Would you claim Africans, who have won very few Nobels, have not come up with any invention that advanced the human race?

And for a herring. Please explain the advancement or invention our own Nobel laureates came up with. I'm intrigued.

budaatum:
Nobel prizes that they gave mostly to people on their own side of the world or what?

Or do you think they'd give a Nobel to an Iranian who comes up with an invention or advancement today?

Would you claim Africans, who have won very few Nobels, have not come up with any invention that advanced the human race?

And for a herring. Please explain the advancement or invention our own Nobel laureates came up with. I'm intrigued.

Body of knowledgecan be advanced. Phenomenon can be explained.

budaatum:
I'm certain you feel they are not Muslims therefore, but if you are interested, here's a list of some inventions that came out the Muslim world.

And it's not their fault there were no Nobels for any of them.

At least you we factual and not blinded by bigotry and prejudice!

They'll continue to attack you as they don't want any iota of truth!

budaatum:
I'm certain you feel they are not Muslims therefore, but if you are interested, here's a list of some inventions that came out the Muslim world.

And it's not their fault there were no Nobels for any of them.

for me UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA was the first university. The university in morocco was basically for islamic studies.

Exousiang01:
I don't think you understand what the Nobel is about.
The Nobel does not give awards for history.
Nobel would not go back to start giving awards for what people did in the stone age.
Nobel is giving awards for the present times.

Liar. Nobel prize is for outstanding performances in all areas of creativity. Wole Soyinka got his own in literature, many others in economics. The interesting part is some got their own posthumously. The three physicists that worked on what is used for MRI today had died before they were awarded the prize.

TV01:
Islam is regressive. It basically offers 2 choices; 7th century Saudi Arabia or 20th Century Afghanistan. Slim pickings, and hardly fertile ground for reason, rational thinking, scientific enquiry and technological advancement. The Judeo-Christian worldview on the other hand does just that. evidenced by their advancement and institutions Not so much the madrassa and ile Kéwú.

That is an outright lie. Firstly, oftentimes post-conquest, islamc rulers allowed centres of knowledge and education to continue as they were, but they were all re-labelled as muslim - like conquerors are wont to do.

Secondly, all the discoveries attributed to Islamic scholarship were already discovered by other civilisations (mainly Greeks and even Hindus). Per point 1 above, for a time Islam allowed extant centres of knowledge to continue and even flourish, and were particularly noted for collating and translating extant scientific literature.

Nothing new or conducive to humanities flourishing and advancement has or can emanate from a wholly Islam milieu - feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

Wrong. Or at best misleading. Muslim recipients of Nobel Prizes tend to be enabled by, and emerge from, the Western milieu. It's not about ethnicity or race, it's about cultural and sectarian morés. I trust this was not an attempt to obfuscate?

Demonstrated by the overweight of Jews in the Nobel Peace prize stakes. Barely 15million people outperform a 2 billion ummah. Please humanity needs Jews - like wow !


TV

We are saying the same thing. Islam cast darkness on the rich minds of Arabs. Mind you, as civilization shifted from one place to another, knowledge also advanced. Starting from Egyptian civilization, Assyrian, Babylonian, Greek, and Roman's. All leave behind their legacies in the advancement of knowledge. Islamic world became the sink of knowledge following the enthronement of Mohammed's message. You cannot divorce Egyptian civilization from the technology that built thr pyramids or their embalment techniques. Today, after Islam took over, Egypt is less than a shadow of its ancient self. The advancement in law and the code of hummurabbi by the Babylonians, the technology that built the Hanging Garden of Babylon are all testaments to what rich past of today's Iraq people.

They don't have anything to offer

ruggedtimi:
for me UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA was the first university. The university in morocco was basically for islamic studies.

For me, the Library of Alexandria would be one of the first universities, but for you to be me, I'd need to have to convince you that university learning happened at the library, and I doubt I could achieve that on my own without your assistance, considering you think islamic studies is not enough study to make a place a university.

AntiChristian:
At least you we factual and not blinded by bigotry and prejudice!

They'll continue to attack you as they don't want any iota of truth!

Attacks are like the seeds that fell on the harmless roadside and withered in the sun and died.

Some seeds fall on fertile minds and produce crop a millionfold.

MightySparrow:
Only two and half persons won Nobel Prize. Mohammed Abdus Salaam jointly won Nobel prize in physics with other two Americans. Jews have won about 25% of all the prizes. Others, Hindus, Buddhist, Christians have dominated fields of knowledge. Islamic world filled with illiterates are claiming knowledge of Quran that has never produced any reasonable things to benefit humanity.

Everyone knows that, Islam is to cause peace to humanity. While others striving hard to bring positive innovations to humanity, Islam is causing peace everywhere they go.

Novel prize for peace still not in their house.

Fiscus105:
Everyone knows that, Islam is to cause peace to humanity. While others striving hard to bring positive innovations to humanity, Islam is causing peace everywhere they go.

Novel prize for peace still not in their house.

Is this a satire?


Violent peace. Peacefully violent religion.


Islam should be awarded a Nobel Prize for peace.

The prizes are reserved foe people who act as salt of the earth and not pepper of the earth crew.