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clevermugu:
why suggesting used solar items in 2025 ?


350w usedpanels? when there is brand new jinko 530w panels for 89k. from personal experience Bi-facial performs better than the same rating of mono both on roof and on carport. quit this your olden days notions.



suggesting separate Cc and used inverter, yet another redacted belief , when he easily get himself a good 48v hybrid inverter and save money.



suggesting tubular to someone in 2025, when lithuim battery prices has crashed.

i still stand on my earlier post. anyone in this thread who follows the opinion of this guy @bassdow, gonna learn ,and will learn in a hard way!

Normally, I try to only make RESPONSEs that would be useFul to more people.

Now, He said he got 1.2 Million naira, and going by the stated Load, he would not be able to easily afford a solar setUp even with said 1.2-million naira.

Now those in our line of Business (aka solar installers) do understand USEd Solar Panels are always in demand - enter market make you see as people dey buy am like water. You go order like 30pcs think say you don buy market till you see another wey buy pass you.
Guess what, a lot of them ends up being sold as brand new.

As per why I still use Tubular and lead Acid batteries even in 2025, that's because not all of us are financially Fluid. Some people could easily raise 1.5-million naira and should anythng go wrong, can raise same or more almost immediately.
Then there are those of us that would need several months to save up 1-million naira; and should anything go wrong, na to wait till further notice.

Also e get those of us wey be say we no fit easily survive a single failure in our system

e.g a single cell of 3.2v for instance could be the only thing making your 7.5kw lipo4 battery to stop working HENCE you either replace the entire thing, or look for where to do cell extraction both of which ain't CHEAP at all.
Now imagine say na 4 strings of Lead Acid / Tubular batteries, and one of them goes bad, na to replace just that one (don't bother telling me it's MIXing old and new batteries) or temporarily downGrade. So you see, me (and I know I'm not alone) no get that kind money.

same goes with using hybrid inVerters with it's baked in charge Controller; a single fault to the inverter or charge Controller is akin to putting all your eggs in a single basket - I rather pay more to have 2 separate systems, than a single one even if it's seems CHEAPer.

Also same with very large solar panels, I rather go with 4pcs of 450w Solar panels, than 2pcs of 900watts Solar panels which would still give a total of 1,800 watts. You know why, because among other things, a single solar panels going bad either means You loose either 900w or just 450w.

Even in computers, I prefer having 2 sticks of ram each being 32GB than a single 64GB ram stick.
in fact if said computer got space for 4 ram sticks, I would go with 4pcs of 16GB rams.

Another issue I got with Hybrid inverters is, they are more fragile, and expensive + chances of successful repairs is often very low. Funny enough, I never use am personally before BUT no be all of us need chop before we know the taste of the pudding. Imagine buying an Inverter for 500,000 naira make e come burn or spoil and after so much stress, you come receive news say na to change board (not cheap) or complete replacement

Mind you, difference between a brand new, and Used solar panels is NOT often much judging from their outPut.

Also, Difference between Lithium batteries, and Tubular / LeadAcid batteries ain't much - You think it's much because they want you to THINK so. Major difference is DOD which is 50 in non Lithium based batteries and 80 in Lithium batteries.

Once again, most people got no need for Bi-facial solar panels. Always buy (half-cut) MONO Solar panels.

of course, all the above no concern those wey get better Money.

MAKE I STOP HERE FOR NOW

Want to presume a lot of us do understand all the Rubbish wey I dey talk. Those wey I pity na the innocent Ones wey dey try follow crowd.

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clevermugu:
why suggesting used solar items in 2025 ?


350w usedpanels? when there is brand new jinko 530w panels for 89k. from personal experience Bi-facial performs better than the same rating of mono both on roof and on carport. quit this your olden days notions.



suggesting separate Cc and used inverter, yet another redacted belief , when he easily get himself a good 48v hybrid inverter and save money.



suggesting tubular to someone in 2025, when lithuim battery prices has crashed.

i still stand on my earlier post. anyone in this thread who follows the opinion of this guy @bassdow, gonna learn ,and will learn in a hard way!

Do you get paid for this?

Bro, you don't need the last statements.

If you cannot control your emotions here, you will end up shooting your ego. Why fight for those who do not need your assistance.

Hear yourself again.

bassdow:
Normally, I try to only make RESPONSEs that would be useFul to more people.

Now, He said he got 1.2 Million naira, and going by the stated Load, he would not be able to easily afford a solar setUp even with said 1.2-million naira.

Now those in our line of Business (aka solar installers) do understand USEd Solar Panels are always in demand - enter market make you see as people dey buy am like water. You go order like 30pcs think say you don buy market till you see another wey buy pass you.
Guess what, a lot of them ends up being sold as brand new.

As per why I still use Tubular and lead Acid batteries even in 2025, that's because not all of us are financially Fluid. Some people could easily raise 1.5-million naira and should anythng go wrong, can raise same or more almost immediately.
Then there are those of us that would need several months to save up 1-million naira; and should anything go wrong, na to wait till further notice.

Also e get those of us wey be say we no fit easily survive a single failure in our system

e.g a single cell of 3.2v for instance could be the only thing making your 7.5kw lipo4 battery to stop working HENCE you either replace the entire thing, or look for where to do cell extraction both of which ain't CHEAP at all.
Now imagine say na 4 strings of Lead Acid / Tubular batteries, and one of them goes bad, na to replace just that one (don't bother telling me it's MIXing old and new batteries) or temporarily downGrade. So you see, me (and I know I'm not alone) no get that kind money.

same goes with using hybrid inVerters with it's baked in charge Controller; a single fault to the inverter or charge Controller is akin to putting all your eggs in a single basket - I rather pay more to have 2 separate systems, than a single one even if it's seems CHEAPer.

Also same with very large solar panels, I rather go with 4pcs of 450w Solar panels, than 2pcs of 900watts Solar panels which would still give a total of 1,800 watts. You know why, because among other things, a single solar panels going bad either means You loose either 900w or just 450w.

Even in computers, I prefer having 2 sticks of ram each being 32GB than a single 64GB ram stick.
in fact if said computer got space for 4 ram sticks, I would go with 4pcs of 16GB rams.

Another issue I got with Hybrid inverters is, they are more fragile, and expensive + chances of successful repairs is often very low. Funny enough, I never use am personally before BUT no be all of us need chop before we know the taste of the pudding. Imagine buying an Inverter for 500,000 naira make e come burn or spoil and after so much stress, you come receive news say na to change board (not cheap) or complete replacement

Mind you, difference between a brand new, and Used solar panels is NOT often much judging from their outPut.

Also, Difference between Lithium batteries, and Tubular / LeadAcid batteries ain't much - You think it's much because they want you to THINK so. Major difference is DOD which is 50 in non Lithium based batteries and 80 in Lithium batteries.

Once again, most people got no need for Bi-facial solar panels. Always buy (half-cut) MONO Solar panels.

of course, all the above no concern those wey get better Money.

MAKE I STOP HERE FOR NOW

Want to presume a lot of us do understand all the Rubbish wey I dey talk. Those wey I pity na the innocent Ones wey dey try follow crowd.

The problem here is doubling down on some dogma and overemphasising others. Sometimes, the advise are also contradictory. Hybrid inverter can help someone save money. Some stand alone charge controllers are more expesnive than hybrid inverters of similar configurartion.

Outside tat, there is some wisdom in what you say, especially for people who are low on income and still want to dabble into solar.

Used panels, tubular batteries and hybrid inverters are no brainer for people who have limited resources. I met an installer who told me that he is using solar panels salvaged from the Ibadan bomb blasts. The broken (not just used) panels are still serving him reasonably.

I have both hybrid and non-hybrid inverters, but I prefer separate charge controllers. None of my hybrid inverters has ever been connected to solar. So, lets slow down on controversies and clarify our points clearly.

If you have the means, buy lithium, use separate inverters and charge controllers and use tier one new solar panels. But if your means are limited, used solar panels, tubular batteries and hybrid inverters will save you money and still give you some energy to hold body until you are able to afford better setup.

bassdow:
Also, Difference between Lithium batteries, and Tubular / LeadAcid batteries ain't much - You think it's much because they want you to THINK so. Major difference is DOD which is 50 in non Lithium based batteries and 80 in Lithium batteries.

Bro. That 30% difference in DOD is much o. That is the major reason I'm considering lithium, in addition to the faster charging. The only thing I don't like about it, is it's volatility and fire prone-ness.

I see people arguing over principles or approach to renewable like modularity and cost consciousness.
To the person saying one 3.2v cell may fail in a pack of many, even so is it true that one of the six cells within a lead acid or tubular battery may fail.
If a hybrid fails, it is hard to fix without manufacturer's backing but modular approach of smaller unit wired together by you may give you better options. Nowadays, they have all kinds of solutions, stackable batteries, power stations with AC and DC input/output, traditional SCC and Inverters, DC cabling and loads, battery-less systems, and more.

Tdoctor:
Bro. That 30% difference in DOD is much o. That is the major reason I'm considering lithium, in addition to the faster charging. The only thing I don't like about it, is it's volatility and fire prone-ness.

Lifepo4 is less fire prone, li ion is the more fire prone one.

bassdow:
Normally, I try to only make RESPONSEs that would be useFul to more people.

Now, He said he got 1.2 Million naira, and going by the stated Load, he would not be able to easily afford a solar setUp even with said 1.2-million naira.........

Want to presume a lot of us do understand all the Rubbish wey I dey talk. Those wey I pity na the innocent Ones wey dey try follow crowd.

Dear Bossdow,

Personally, for once I think I like the manner of your response without a counter attack and or emotions.

Physically I think you are a nice fellow becos while the drama was on, I remember calling you and a few NLders for the first and only time for some bms data interpretations and you were raw/simple, apt and direct even with the declaration of the fact that u have never used lithium yet your explanation was true, timely and right after I rechecked.

The only concern I think is the fact that u repeat the stories with an insisting attitude or gesture... Yes in trying to make a point of sellers/installers ripping others off, you don't like that, ofcos nobody does, but give your advice and leave it at that in my opinion.

Lastly, if old technologies work for you, put it out there and leave it at that without the supposed gesture of trying to make everyone buy into the idea of being stock in the past.

Understand this, change is the only constant thing, adopting changes can be a problem and only a problem of fear of the unknown, once adopted and it works, trust me, you will want to continue with it so please, let people see your advice and decide if to take same or not because the world is moving and very fast at that.

Again, keep being great as I experienced talking with you my dear brother!

Good day to y’all
Please who has a plug for hybrid inverter repair writing error 03(Battery over voltage) even with my battery at 26.4V.
Please it’s urgent if possible to be able to send it out tomorrow

Trippledots:
There are smart energy monitors in country with switching function that can serve you . Pair it with a properly sized contactor for heavy loads.

Please trippldots help me with to contact you. I need help from you

BigDickProblems:
Bro you don’t get the point.

What makes one knowledgeable and informed is the ability to hear or consider every opinion and decide which one to apply. Even if you are making a good point, why try to shut down your opposition (him)?

Some of these things you said here can be countered, the same way, his own. But is it fair to say that you are capping rubbish? No, or you should shut up? No. Any wise person here will know what to decide for themselves when they see all opinions. No one is an island.

While not ideal, his style is being used on him. Abi no be him dey call everybody with diverging opinion marketer?

Opinions can be presented without insult and rancour.

RickyM:
Good day to y’all
Please who has a plug for hybrid inverter repair writing error 03(Battery over voltage) even with my battery at 26.4V.
Please it’s urgent if possible to be able to send it out tomorrow

Error code depends on the inverter. Check your manual.

HeavenlyBang:
Error code depends on the inverter. Check your manual.

It’s Anern and this is what I can find online in its e-manual.
Be aware I wasn’t even charging the battery at the moment, it’s a sitting dusk battery with 26.4V

hey guys, is it possible to charge 2 * 200ah batteries using Felicity 3.5kVA inverter with a 2.5kva/2kw generator?

RickyM:
Good day to y’all
Please who has a plug for hybrid inverter repair writing error 03(Battery over voltage) even with my battery at 26.4V.
Please it’s urgent if possible to be able to send it out tomorrow

What kind of hybrid, have you tried doing a factory reset?

Depends on the amps you are charging with and the load on the 3.5kva inverter. If no load and the battery is being charged with very low amps, then yes.
The pressure on the generator will be :
1) Idle load of the inverter
2) The amps you set on the inverter to charge with.
3) Any other load you connect to the inverter

My experience is that the maximum it might be able to charge with will depend on the age of the engine of the generator.

Darey00:
hey guys, is it possible to charge 2 * 200ah batteries using Felicity 3.5kVA inverter with a 2.5kva/2kw generator?

Good day house,
Abeg can anyone recommend a good 4ke or 5kw 24v hybrid Inverter that has 100amps battery charging.
The one that would charge 12 numbers of 2v 1000amps battery well.

Please it's urgent 🙏🙏🙏.

Tdoctor:
Bro. That 30% difference in DOD is much o. That is the major reason I'm considering lithium, in addition to the faster charging. The only thing I don't like about it, is it's volatility and fire prone-ness.

Lithium battery, especially the Lithium Phosphate variants have low fire risks and is significantly easier to Maintain than Tubular...

This is no longer a debate especially when combined with the longevity of the battery chemistry.

jmaine:
Lithium battery, especially the Lithium Phosphate variants have low fire risks and is significantly easier to Maintain than Tubular...

This is no longer a debate especially when combined with the longevity of the battery chemistry.

Actually, there has NEVER been such Argument. That's if we being HONEST with ourSelves

durodee:
Depends on the amps you are charging with and the load on the 3.5kva inverter. If no load and the battery is being charged with very low amps, then yes.
The pressure on the generator will be :
1) Idle load of the inverter
2) The amps you set on the inverter to charge with.
3) Any other load you connect to the inverter

My experience is that the maximum it might be able to charge with will depend on the age of the engine of the generator.

Thank you

bassdow:
Actually, there has NEVER been such Argument. That's if we being HONEST with ourSelves

Your definition of HONESTY is always contentious... Don't have the energy to dissipate on that path...

Holiday season sales on AliExpress. I got $12 discount on a single item I have been trying to get since.

RickyM:
Good day to y’all
Please who has a plug for hybrid inverter repair writing error 03(Battery over voltage) even with my battery at 26.4V.
Please it’s urgent if possible to be able to send it out tomorrow

check the battery cables or replace it completely

Drexel39 baba.

You dey so?

drexel39:
check the battery cables or replace it completely

diabeticdeals:
Drexel39 baba.

You dey so?

Please gurus who knows a circuit that I can use to cutoff power supply to load from 2000w inverter

micxwell:
Not all will run for 24 hours. Between 6pm and 6am, My load will not go beyond 250w max..

8kwh lithium
3.5kva hybrid 24v
4kwp solar panels.

All this should cost around #2.3m if you know where to look.

Installation charges and accessories can take another, maybe #300k- 500k

capnies:
Please trippldots help me with to contact you. I need help from you

Hi, just seeing this.

Still need my help? Shoot me a mail.

capnies:
Please gurus who knows a circuit that I can use to cutoff power supply to load from 2000w inverter

Is this what you needed me for? Get a WiFi power monitor or the manual variant. You can use it to achieve this.

Please house,
Since we have Inverter fridge, Inverter ac etc
Is there Inverter hot plate?

dollarnaira:
Please house,
Since we have Inverter fridge, Inverter ac etc
Is there Inverter hot plate?

Even low power pressing iron self dey (300w). I dey look for this low power inverter friendly hotplate too o. Please if you discover this inverter friendly hotplate share with me.
Thanks Bro