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The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 11:01pm On Oct 13, 2025
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by mrvitalis(m): 12:33am On Oct 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
There is no sensible human being that would sign mou on mono rail, read the financial implications and then continue the project

Even if you charge people 5000/km you won't still break even in 100 years

It's stupidity

No rail line in nigeria makes 30% it's runkng cost not talk about break even
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by esnbrutality: 12:56am On Oct 14, 2025
Obviously..an IGBO person showed you shege. I love it!!!



DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.

Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by muykem: 3:31am On Oct 14, 2025
mrvitalis:
There is no sensible human being that would sign mou on mono rail, read the financial implications and then continue the project

Even if you charge people 5000/km you won't still break even in 100 years

It's stupidity

No rail line in nigeria makes 30% it's runkng cost not talk about break even
What are you saying? Are you not going to see financial implication before signing MOU? infrastructures provision are not for business purpose but for development.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by jfking2005(m): 5:12am On Oct 14, 2025
mrvitalis:
There is no sensible human being that would sign mou on mono rail, read the financial implications and then continue the project

Even if you charge people 5000/km you won't still break even in 100 years

It's stupidity

No rail line in nigeria makes 30% it's runkng cost not talk about break even
Please pay attention to developments of basic infrastructures to make the environment and life more easier for people . Governance is not a business venture but to make an environment conducive for people and businesses to thrive , this will give people the sense of belonging and stop running away from the region.
Stop thinking like a business man in governance and how to save money…
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by garykoeman: 5:55am On Oct 14, 2025
Everyone know obi as a fail-ure, he is only being package the way S.E people packaged their fake product as original. grin

The guy has no legacy project in Anambra e.g roads, infrastructure, health and education.

Only sharing Taiwan made laptop to naive school kids.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by esnbrutality: 6:18am On Oct 14, 2025
grin
A drug czar
A document forging knucklehead
An identity theft merchant
A man with questionable background

Is your mentor. That shows that PO is a saint when compared to TILUMBU.

garykoeman:
Everyone know obi as a fail-ure, he is only being package the way S.E people packaged their fake product as original. grin

The guy has no legacy project in Anambra e.g roads, infrastructure, health and education.

Only sharing Taiwan made laptop to naive school kids.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Yorubasarecurse: 6:27am On Oct 14, 2025
This one’s obsession with Igbos is a course for concern. Whoever is his family should keep a close watch on him before he spirals out of control.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by alanto: 6:55am On Oct 14, 2025
jfking2005:
Please pay attention to developments of basic infrastructures to make the environment and life more easier for people . Governance is not a business venture but to make an environment conducive for people and businesses to thrive , this will give people the sense of belonging and stop running away from the region.
Stop thinking like a business man in governance and how to save money…
He's Obi supporter. Everything is business to them.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by michlins(m): 7:23am On Oct 14, 2025
jfking2005:
Please pay attention to developments of basic infrastructures to make the environment and life more easier for people . Governance is not a business venture but to make an environment conducive for people and businesses to thrive , this will give people the sense of belonging and stop running away from the region.
Stop thinking like a business man in governance and how to save money…
in economics, there's a scale of preference. Nigeria economy isn't that robust to accommodate certain level of expenses. Some huge projects are not worth it one bit because they take funds away from important on that will have direct impact on the masses.

So yes, it's crawling before running and our economy is barely sitting as a baby but people like you will want the government to start huge unimportant projects for the sake of glamour while basic infrastructure like water and good hospital are totally ignored
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Ttalk: 7:28am On Oct 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
If that's too much and expensive for Peter Obi to do, what stops him from having a water transport system in the riverine areas where he used to do eye service every year. Is that to much for him to do for the people who see him as a messiah.

Peter Obi is a failure
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Ttalk: 7:34am On Oct 14, 2025
michlins:
in economics, there's a scale of preference. Nigeria economy isn't that robust to accommodate certain level of expenses. Some huge projects are not worth it one bit because they take funds away from important on that will have direct impact on the masses.

So yes, it's crawling before running and our economy is barely sitting as a baby but people like you will want the government to start huge unimportant projects for the sake of glamour while basic infrastructure like water and good hospital are totally ignored
Since Obi could not build the monorail because he want to focus on basic need of the people, did he provide pipe borne water for the people of Anambra?

The way you defend Peter Obi is the more you expose his failure
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by kettykin: 7:40am On Oct 14, 2025
mrvitalis:
There is no sensible human being that would sign mou on mono rail, read the financial implications and then continue the project

Even if you charge people 5000/km you won't still break even in 100 years

It's stupidity

No rail line in nigeria makes 30% it's runkng cost not talk about break even
You are quite correct on this, I carried a feasibility study of the Lagos to Abuja railway with someone and I realized that Nigeria just made the biggest white elephant project. That project is not viable, this is more like a debt trap. Lagos just took a $3b facility for a railway expansion project which will never be viable. Thank God the generation of governors didn't continue the project, instead of that they should invest in electricity project and electric mass transit system
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Kushites: 7:43am On Oct 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
I'm so happy you brought this up.

The biggest problem facing the southeast is not Abuja or Tinubu, but the uselessness of their state governors.

No vision. All they think of is how to loot money and buy mansions in America.

Give me one reason why a big city like Onitsha cannot arrange for even a small light rail system, even using Direct labour?

Nothing stops them. Just laziness and lack of visionary leadership or care for the people.

Every so often they will do a photo-op with some foreign company claiming there's a project coming up, and you never hear anything about it after that. Of course it's all corruption, like you explained.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by saintkel(m): 7:44am On Oct 14, 2025
Ttalk:
Since Obi could not build the monorail because he want to focus on basic need of the people, did he provide pipe borne water for the people of Anambra?

The way you defend Peter Obi is the more you expose his failure
d way u defend n worship Tinubu, someone will think that by just 6 months, that man will turn Nigeria to Dubai....sadly, we r stuck in d sea of tribalism n that has affected our sense of reasoning....Obi may not b a saint but he's way better by far to ur Tinubu
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Ttalk: 7:54am On Oct 14, 2025
saintkel:
d way u defend n worship Tinubu, someone will think that by just 6 months, that man will turn Nigeria to Dubai....sadly, we r stuck in d sea of tribalism n that has affected our sense of reasoning....Obi may not b a saint but he's way better by far to ur Tinubu
What is tribalism?

Where Tinubu governed as governor has a working light rail system and other ones are coming up

Where Tinubu governed has a working water transport system.

Yet, you want me to leave him and choose someone who can't even conceive any of these brilliant ideas.

Haba! You sef think am now
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Kushites: 7:56am On Oct 14, 2025
kettykin:
You are quite correct on this, I carried a feasibility study of the Lagos to Abuja railway with someone and I realized that Nigeria just made the biggest white elephant project. That project is not viable, this is more like a debt trap. Lagos just took a $3b facility for a railway expansion project which will never be viable. Thank God the generation of governors didn't continue the project, instead of that they should invest in electricity project and electric mass transit system
Railway networks are a PUBLIC SERVICE. They are NOT designed to be ''profitable''.

Who is supposed to eat the 'profit' or 'recouped expenditure' that you are so desperate to see?

You?

Railway networks are to help reduce the cost of doing business, ease transportation hassles, reduce weight on the roads, and promote tourism. Agricultural products and farmers are a big part of it as well, as goods from remote areas can reach urban destinations quicker and easier etc etc. The benefits/success of rail investment projects are seen in how they contribute to GDP as a whole, not on whether the cost of the railway projects are recouped by the govt.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by seunmsg(m): 8:03am On Oct 14, 2025
kettykin:
You are quite correct on this, I carried a feasibility study of the Lagos to Abuja railway with someone and I realized that Nigeria just made the biggest white elephant project. That project is not viable, this is more like a debt trap. Lagos just took a $3b facility for a railway expansion project which will never be viable. Thank God the generation of governors didn't continue the project, instead of that they should invest in electricity project and electric mass transit system
Lagos has two functional rail lines that are working very well. The blue and red lines get packed to the brim every day and there is no issue of default in the repayment of the loan used to built the railway systems. The new facility is to build the green line. If the first two are not viable, no one will give the state a $3billion facility to build the green line.

The fact that rain-lines are not viable in the south east doesn’t mean they are not viable in other parts of the country. Again, investment in massive infrastructure projects that can last over 100 years doesn’t have to be able to repay itself in the short run. These infrastructure attracts more investments directly and indirectly and also make doing business easier and more profitable in the state.


Lagos has a suspension bridge that attracts tourists and film makers from all over Africa. They come to Lagos and spend money in the local market thereby boosting the local economy. So when analyzing such projects, it will be very dumb to just be costing the direct proceeds that can be generated in the short term. Your region will remain undeveloped if your state governments don’t make investment in massive infrastructural projects.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 8:11am On Oct 14, 2025
Kushites:
I'm so happy you brought this up.

The biggest problem facing the southeast is not Abuja or Tinubu, but the uselessness of their state governors.

No vision. All they think of is how to loot money and buy mansions in America.

Give me one reason why a big city like Onitsha cannot arrange for even a small light rail system, even using Direct labour?

Nothing stops them. Just laziness and lack of visionary leadership or care for the people.

Every so often they will do a photo-op with some foreign company claiming there's a project coming up, and you never hear anything about it after that. Of course it's all corruption, like you explained.
The reason boils down to an entitled mentality by their people who expect FG to do everything for them while they leave their governors to loot the dry.

The SE is the most FG dependable.

90% of revenue to the region comes from the FG and most of that wasn't generated in the SE in the first place.

The people down there and their governors have a silent agreement which is ''you don't tax us, we don't hold you accountable '' .

The same people are also more accommodating to their governors brazenly looting and diverting public resources to their personal portfolios just as PETER OBI did during his tenure as governor because the people see politics as business to which those who scale through have the right to recoup their '' investments '' in running for office with heavy returns.

It goes just beyond their thieving inept governors . During the PDP era, an inherited Obasanjo unwritten policy towards placating SE PDP politicians was to award Federal roads maintainance to same PDP politicians. These projects were used not only to placate SE PDP politicians but as kickbacks and future campaign slush funds.

The policy was so entrenched in binding contracts that the subsequent Yaradua govt had no choice but to continue paying those crooks who hardly mobilized to site even after being paid and if they do, will carry out shoddy works.

This was one reason the Enugu - PHC road was an eyesore for most of PDP's 16yr rule.

When Buhari came onboard , he decided to cancel all those contracts and advertised a new contract for the rehabilitation of Federal roads in the SE. All foreign contractors did not apply knowing the level of criminality and extortion in the SE and they knew the former contractors will do everything to chase them away by mobilizing their criminal thugs.

The FG then had no choice than to do direct labour through the ministry of Works. This is one of the few legacies of the Buhari govt and to his credit he fixed most federal roads in the SE through direct labour under the ministry of works.

The level of irresponsibility of SE governors since 1999 to their citizenry has no part 2.

Other than the last immediate governor of Enugu, Umahi of Ebonyi and Solodu , all the rest have been useless.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by kettykin: 8:20am On Oct 14, 2025
Kushites:
Railway networks are a PUBLIC SERVICE. They are NOT designed to be ''profitable''.

Who is supposed to eat the 'profit' or 'recouped expenditure' that you are so desperate to see?

You?

Railway networks are to help reduce the cost of doing business, ease transportation hassles, reduce weight on the roads, and promote tourism. Agricultural products and farmers are a big part of it as well, as goods from remote areas can reach urban destinations quicker and easier etc etc. The benefits/success of rail investment projects are seen in how they contribute to GDP as a whole, not on whether the cost of the railway projects are recouped by the govt.
I am talking about feasibility and not profitability.
Economic colonization will not start and in in Lagos, many African countries are now perpetually indebted forever to China
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by jfking2005(m): 8:23am On Oct 14, 2025
michlins:
in economics, there's a scale of preference. Nigeria economy isn't that robust to accommodate certain level of expenses. Some huge projects are not worth it one bit because they take funds away from important on that will have direct impact on the masses.

So yes, it's crawling before running and our economy is barely sitting as a baby but people like you will want the government to start huge unimportant projects for the sake of glamour while basic infrastructure like water and good hospital are totally ignored
My brother , pls take more time to read comments, feedbacks from exposed people and understand how cities and developed countries are built, it’s not a business venture but they only create an enabling environment for people to come in and for business to thrive while the government can get the returns from a more industrialized and commercial activity afterwards.

Direct labor and open bidding are other options that could have been used to award such to competent contractors but if the leaders continue to think it is a business venture for profit making , I can tell you for free that the region will remain underdeveloped for more years to come ..
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Mbanda(m): 8:50am On Oct 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
What exactly is this op talking about?
This is what I call diversion of attention 101 grin grin grin
The op and his likes are in all social media platforms diverting the attention of Nigerians so that they (Nigerians) will not see the mess in tinibu and his government of audio projects grin grin grin

Thank God for people like us who is making sure that, their plans will not see the light of the day.

Oga op, the three governors you mentioned are past governors in SE they are not the current president of Nigeria. And they are not the ones that plunged Nigeria into this sorry state she is currently so, let's discuss this tinibu regime and the mess in it and leave the past where it belongs.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 8:59am On Oct 14, 2025
Mbanda:
What exactly is this op talking about?
This is what I call diversion of attention 101 grin grin grin
The op and his likes are in all social media platforms diverting the attention of Nigerians so that they (Nigerians) will not see the mess in tinibu and his government of audio projects grin grin grin

Thank God for people like us who is making sure that, their plans will not see the light of the day.

Oga op, the three governors you mentioned are past governors in SE they are not the current president of Nigeria. And they are not the ones that plunged Nigeria into this sorry state she is currently so, let's discuss this tinibu regime and the mess in it and leave the past where it belongs.
Which mess?

Pls point to one major scandal that has rocked this administration.

Just one.

Girimgori signed a fake MOU for a monorail project that never went beyound the consultation phase which Anambra state paid for.

15ys later no rail project is in Anambra.

The question now and just like you guys were demanding to know when Giringori was governor still remains:

What is Peter Obi doing in Anambra?

Show us one single legacy of this inept thief who diverted Anambra commonwealth into his personal portfolio in the guise of investments.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 9:03am On Oct 14, 2025
michlins:
in economics, there's a scale of preference. Nigeria economy isn't that robust to accommodate certain level of expenses. Some huge projects are not worth it one bit because they take funds away from important on that will have direct impact on the masses.

So yes, it's crawling before running and our economy is barely sitting as a baby but people like you will want the government to start huge unimportant projects for the sake of glamour while basic infrastructure like water and good hospital are totally ignored
In light of what you are saying, then it was pure waste to build a second Niger bridge.

Its also pure waste for FG to continue maintaining Federal roads in the SE.

It also does not make any economic sense for your state governors to construct roads at #6bn a kilometer which is the cost in Abia.

It then makes no sense for both Federal and State governors in the SE to invest in any infrastructural project in the SE since it will not generate a dime.

All federal allocations should go to fixed deposit accounts and in building breweries then.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 9:07am On Oct 14, 2025
kettykin:
You are quite correct on this, I carried a feasibility study of the Lagos to Abuja railway with someone and I realized that Nigeria just made the biggest white elephant project. That project is not viable, this is more like a debt trap. Lagos just took a $3b facility for a railway expansion project which will never be viable. Thank God the generation of governors didn't continue the project, instead of that they should invest in electricity project and electric mass transit system
Then you have the option in remaining stagnant in your village setting .

Lagos is ploughing their resources back into making their state to compete with other major cities.

When Drogba and his speed boat racing team came to Lagos and not your Onitsha , it is your like that will say Lagos is choking other states.

What have your governors done to take you out of your 1940s colonial Nigeria setting.

Be doing feasibility study .
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by Streetinvestor2: 9:12am On Oct 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
During the coinciding tenures of Obi (Anamabra), T. Orji (Abi) and that of Enugu, these 3 states signed an MOU with a Canadian firm to construct monorail lines in each state. This was sometime in 2010.

15ys later, not an inch of rail has been constructed.

The company GLOBIM which obviously had no experience whatsoever was only a conduit to syphon funds in the name of consultation.

You can google : ''Globim signs agreement with [insert any of the states mentioned here]

At the time Giromgory and Orji were signing fake MOUs meant to only syphon money in the name of consultation, Lagos state was drawing out and perfecting their own plans for a light rail system.

Lagos has rolled out several rail routes which are functioning and just signed another contract for a bran new route.

Instead of doing busy body for who pass you , why not demand from Giringori and his fellow failures in your SE why they stopped short of carrying out the project after signing MOUs with this obvious money laundry SPV.
U see the problem when u just want to create useless threads. That u signed MOU does not mean a financial commitment has been made.How many MOU has SW president signed since 2023 after all the global trotting and whr are the companies on ground in nigeria since then
How does this thread address the issues of hunger and poverty created by SW president since signing many MOU is what Nigerians want to know
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by DomPerignon(op): 9:13am On Oct 14, 2025
kettykin:
I am talking about feasibility and not profitability.
Economic colonization will not start and in in Lagos, many African countries are now perpetually indebted forever to China
So Lagosians do not deserve to have rail system.?

Lagos is not as reckless as your SE and the contractors handling the project have ironed out a solid repayment system.

Ordinary village roads and schools your governors refuse to build and you are here scrutinizing Lagos railway project.

Go and demand from your governors why you cant have the basics of life in your SE.
Re: The Scam Monorail Project Signed By Anambra, Abia And Enugu by mrvitalis(m): 9:17am On Oct 14, 2025
jfking2005:
Please pay attention to developments of basic infrastructures to make the environment and life more easier for people . Governance is not a business venture but to make an environment conducive for people and businesses to thrive , this will give people the sense of belonging and stop running away from the region.
Stop thinking like a business man in governance and how to save money…
Government is business this stupid mentality is what APC have that killed the economy

South East governors are smart for not doing stupid rail project to show offbyhat they can't afford
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