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She is actually fine with clear skin ...look well

BlackViper:
Where's the fine girl? Or is NL whining us?

Eeeeyaaa
That's why they do beauty contest
Do you still know if you're beautiful😎

Sorry baby no time for love

SAMBARRY:
exactly. The same here happens in nigeria working environment. Nobody notices or gives a damn whether you are fine or not. It's the bye product of capitalism.

Which Nigeria?, abeg just tell me you're not fine, in naija wey una dey enter free ride, dey get free launch for work environment. Even babes wey no fine dey get free invite, how much less. Which kind work you dey do, Lol

PulaPower:
But this one like Bag of Onions isn’t a fine girl..

She for let fine girls do the talking..

Bloggers de call every girl wey do viral video " fine girl"

That is the environment where things are working perfectly. It's you and your job. Not in Nigeria where we have a lot of jobless graduates who got no jobs but busy chasing ladies.

Putindbutt:
Which Nigeria?, abeg just tell me you're not fine, in naija wey una dey enter free ride, dey get free launch for work environment. Even babes wey no fine dey get free invite, how much less. Which kind work you dey do, Lol

understand context and type with wisdom. Nobody will promote you if you are not due for promotion because you are a fine girl.same thing happens if you're incompetent or show incompetence for a job consistently you will be sacked even if you are a fine girl.

I said nigerian work environment.
I am not talking about the social sphere where people will give fine girl lift or pay for her food at the restaurant.i understand the demon of misogyn comes out, try control am

Glimpsetv:
A Nigerian lady has taken to social media to express how overwhelming it is to work in the UK, even as a fine girl. According to her, nobody cares how beautiful you are, and she now misses Nigeria deeply.

In the emotional clip, the lady struggled to find her voice for a few seconds, silently sobbing before finally speaking. Crying, she said in Pidgin, “8 to 8, 12 hours… body go tell you.” She then let out a painful laugh before quietly saying goodbye to the camera.

In other words, nobody cares whether you’re a fine girl or not — you must work hard like everyone else. Many have interpreted her statement to mean that, unlike in Nigeria where being attractive might earn you some favors, in the UK beauty doesn’t spare you from hard work.

Watch the video and share your thoughts in the comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ealw73w4iew?si=pcO2Al6KPikb5M78

who sent her to UK? Na only UK people dey complain most. Canadians and Americans aren't complaining. Na this Nigerians always play with our emotions. Radarada ilu Apala 🤣

Glimpsetv:
A Nigerian lady has taken to social media to express how overwhelming it is to work in the UK, even as a fine girl. According to her, nobody cares how beautiful you are, and she now misses Nigeria deeply.

In the emotional clip, the lady struggled to find her voice for a few seconds, silently sobbing before finally speaking. Crying, she said in Pidgin, “8 to 8, 12 hours… body go tell you.” She then let out a painful laugh before quietly saying goodbye to the camera.

In other words, nobody cares whether you’re a fine girl or not — you must work hard like everyone else. Many have interpreted her statement to mean that, unlike in Nigeria where being attractive might earn you some favors, in the UK beauty doesn’t spare you from hard work.

Watch the video and share your thoughts in the comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ealw73w4iew?si=pcO2Al6KPikb5M78

you are a slave ,deal with it. Don't you see the models big guys are grouping in UK.

SAMBARRY:
understand context and type with wisdom. Nobody will promote you if you are not due for promotion because you are a fine girl.same thing happens if you're incompetent or show incompetence for a job consistently you will be sacked even if you are a fine girl.

I said nigerian work environment.
I am not talking about the social sphere where people will give fine girl lift or pay for her food at the restaurant.i understand the demon of misogyn comes out, try control am

Are you sure you listened to her?. She wasn't talking about promotion or competence or whatever, she was talking about work generally and insinuating the privileges of being a fine girl ordinarily would give you being in Nigeria. You better not find yourself in her shoes before you wise up.

Glimpsetv:
A Nigerian lady has taken to social media to express how overwhelming it is to work in the UK, even as a fine girl. According to her, nobody cares how beautiful you are, and she now misses Nigeria deeply.

In the emotional clip, the lady struggled to find her voice for a few seconds, silently sobbing before finally speaking. Crying, she said in Pidgin, “8 to 8, 12 hours… body go tell you.” She then let out a painful laugh before quietly saying goodbye to the camera.

In other words, nobody cares whether you’re a fine girl or not — you must work hard like everyone else. Many have interpreted her statement to mean that, unlike in Nigeria where being attractive might earn you some favors, in the UK beauty doesn’t spare you from hard work.

Watch the video and share your thoughts in the comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ealw73w4iew?si=pcO2Al6KPikb5M78

Bt u are not fine now abi who told this ones that light skin means fine

Putindbutt:
Are you sure you listened to her?. She wasn't talking about promotion or competence or whatever, she was talking about work generally and insinuating the privileges of being a fine girl ordinarily would give you being in Nigeria. You better not find yourself in her shoes before you wise up.

rest.i am a smart worker. My looks is no my major currency.i have other selling points apart from my looks

SAMBARRY:
rest.i am a smart worker. My looks is no my major currency.i have other selling points apart from my looks

Easy.. don't take it personal, I was only attacking the message, not you. The only issue is your shoulder padding, those selling points, sell them to me, I fit buy am. Omali.. you know how to reach me.

Gerrard59:
Research into dating life in the West reveals that Black women are at the bottom of the list, while White men are preferred by women of all races. For one, most Black women can get too fat, and this is not the general physique of most White or East Asian women. And as seen across the East and West Coasts of the US, after their women, elite White men prefer East Asian women. There is a reason Nigerian women in the US prefer to congregate in the South-central part of the US to increase their chances of getting married.

It's painful to read you attempting to dress up internalised racism and sweeping stereotype as "reality" and "research" .

1. The research you cited and failed to provide its source was likely conducted from a Eurocentric perspective using a specific cultural standard of beauty. It's improper an strange behaviour for you as an African to universalize that standard and use it to wrongly label your own sisters and brothers as unattractive., the "bottom of the list" . It's like tasting apple to determine the flavour of a rare and exotic African fruit like " Agbalumo"( the African star apple) . You will completely miss it.

2. Your claim that black women " can get too fat" is a harmful and unscientific stereotype. Body size and shape vary greatly within every single racial and ethnic group. To assign a physique to an entire race of diverse women is what prejudice really is. The woman who's currently regarded as the most sexually attractive woman in the world is the Spanish athletic of African descent, Fatima Diame. She combines athleticism, beauty and grace. She is frequently celebrated across social media as one of the most gorgeous and sexeist athletes in the world. People everywhere, both White and Black, gush over her attractiveness. Yet, she's just one example of millions of other Black women with here kind of powerful and graceful physique.


3. The idea of "elite white men" and their preference which you want to present as natural isn't that , but something that's deeply rooted in historical power dynamics, not biology.

4.And where's the evidence or research which supports your claim that the reason Nigerian women congregate in the southern part of the US is to increase their chances of getting married ? This kind of talk is exactly the reason I said you are attempting to dress up sweeping stereotype as " research" But even if marriage were a factor, what's wrong with that?

Or you think the behaviour is unique to Nigerian women?

Don't we have Chinese, Mexicans, Latin Americans, and Indians and countless other immigrant groups in the US congregating in areas where they can find their own people ?

Are the women from these other races doing the same because they want to increase their chances of getting married ?

The desire to congregate in places where you can find your own people is a universal tendency and not something peculiar to Nigerian women.

And let's be clear about something. The real reason Nigerian men and women congregate in certain areas in the US is primarily for community and cultural familiarity. They have moved from a deeply communal society to a country where the dominant culture is highly individualist, "every man for himself.", and so, congregating in a place where they can speak their language, eat their local delicacies and maintain their traditions will make them feel at home in a foreign country. For you to now reduce this complex human need for belonging to a simple strategy for marriage is not only incorrect,but very reductive .

Too many people have been deceived by the faux liberal world. The reality is: humans prefer those who look, talk and behave like them. In an overwhelmingly White country like England, where the majority of the Black population resides in the Southeastern part, Black women are not highly desired. The average South Asian (more South Asians than Blacks in the UK) would not marry a Black woman, and generally, West Africans, unlike Southern or East Africans, have little interaction with South Asians.

Your logic that people prefer their own is flawed. If what you claim is true, then there would be virtually no interracial marriages , and the success and happiness of Black women in such marriages across Europe and in the US, like my own cousin who married an Italian expat she met in Nigeria wouldn't exist.

My advice at this point is that you take your time to investigate the root causes of why some people strictly prefer their own race. If you do this, I am sure you will out that the actual reason is lack of exposure and enlightenment . Often, people, whether Black or White, aren't consciously aware that they're reacting to the unconscious programming which guides them on what to accept or reject as attractive. The truth is , they often aren't thinking for themselves, they're making judgements based on this ingrained programming, which they later try to justify with rationale sounding reasons. This means their racial preferences or rejections aren't based on logic,but on a conditioned sentiment that is ,at its core, inherently racist

Any Black woman in Europe who desires to increase her chances of getting married should move to sub-Saharan Africa, the Caribbean or the South-central part of the US.

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This is the worst you have said here.
Advising "any Black woman" to leave Europe and return to Africa or the Caribbean so they can find a marriage partner isn't a solution. It's advising them to surrender to a racist status quo. It's advising them to shrink their lives and opportunities rather than challenging a society to expand its definition of what's considered beautiful and desirable .

Honestly , I am encouraging you to investigate the root causes of racial preference so that you don't become an unconscious conduit for harmful stereotypes. The ideas you have expressed here aren't neutral observations, they're damaging racial sentiments that have real world consequences for how people are perceived and treated .

Thank you.

triplechoice:
It's painful to read you attempting to dress up internalised racism and sweeping stereotype as "reality" and "research" .

1. The research you cited and failed to provide its source was likely conducted from a Eurocentric perspective using a specific cultural standard of beauty. It's improper an strange behaviour for you as an African to universalize that standard and use it to wrongly label your own sisters and brothers as unattractive., the "bottom of the list" . It's like tasting apple to determine the flavour of a rare and exotic African fruit like " Agbalumo"( the African star apple) . You will completely miss it.

A research conducted in the predominantly white West has to be Eurocentric, and there is nothing wrong with that. If the research were to be conducted in sub-Saharan Africa, African features would come top. BTW, the research is publicly available, and there are also studies which show few marriages between Blacks and Asians. Is that also Eurocentric?

2. Your claim that black women " can get too fat" is a harmful and unscientific stereotype. Body size and shape vary greatly within every single racial and ethnic group. To assign a physique to an entire race of diverse women is what prejudice really is. The woman who's currently regarded as the most sexually attractive woman in the world is the Spanish athletic of African descent, Fatima Diame. She combines athleticism, beauty and grace. She is frequently celebrated across social media as one of the most gorgeous and sexeist athletes in the world. People everywhere, both White and Black, gush over her attractiveness. Yet, she's just one example of millions of other Black women with here kind of powerful and graceful physique.

That is an exception, not the norm. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Black women are better appreciated in Black dominated environments than in places with few Black people. The phrase "can get too fat" might come across as too harsh, but in reality, Black women have greater body mass compared to women from other racial groups, except maybe those in South America. Steatopygia isn't common to women outside Southern Africa, and we see it in variations across Black women in West Africa, Central Africa, Black dominated areas in the US and the Caribbean.

3. The idea of "elite white men" and their preference which you want to present as natural isn't that , but something that's deeply rooted in historical power dynamics, not biology.

Historical dynamics? This sounds like the typical lovey-dovey diatribe I read daily. So, what would the fewer marriages between Black women and Asian men be called?

4.And where's the evidence or research which supports your claim that the reason Nigerian women congregate in the southern part of the US is to increase their chances of getting married ? This kind of talk is exactly the reason I said you are attempting to dress up sweeping stereotype as " research" But even if marriage were a factor, what's wrong with that?

Nigerian women in the US have made countless videos relating their experiences in the dating world, and the best places they recommend to find husbands are where there are a lot of Black people or specifically Nigerians, and these places are in the Southeastern and South-central parts of the US.

Or you think the behaviour is unique to Nigerian women? Don't we have Chinese, Mexicans, Latin Americans, and Indians and countless other immigrant groups in the US congregating in areas where they can find their own people ? Are the women from these other races doing the same because they want to increase their chances of getting married ? The desire to congregate in places where you can find your own people is a universal tendency and not something peculiar to Nigerian women.

Oh! So we agree that humans prefer those who look, talk and behave like them, abi? We agree on one thing, then.

And let's be clear about something. The real reason Nigerian men and women congregate in certain areas in the US is primarily for community and cultural familiarity. They have moved from a deeply communal society to a country where the dominant culture is highly individualist, "every man for himself.", and so, congregating in a place where they can speak their language, eat their local delicacies and maintain their traditions will make them feel at home in a foreign country. For you to now reduce this complex human need for belonging to a simple strategy for marriage is not only incorrect,but very reductive.

You have simply agreed that humans prefer their kind, yet you are against my statement. If they wish to live amongst their kind, does this not mean they wish to marry within their group and raise families within that same group?

Your logic that people prefer their own is flawed. If what you claim is true, then there would be virtually no interracial marriages , and the success and happiness of Black women in such marriages across Europe and in the US, like my own cousin who married an Italian expat she met in Nigeria wouldn't exist.

Honestly, this is the issue I have with lovey-dovey folks - the blatant disregard for basic mathematics and probabilities. No wonder your cohort in the US wanted to ban mathematics in California because "math is racist". These are the issues.

For one, the rate of inter-racial marriages is low and has always been low, whether in the US, Brazil and South Africa, all of which are amongst the most racially diverse societies.

A mere Internet search shows the following:
US: 19% of newlyweds are inter-racial
Brazil: 30% with the majority between Whites and Pardos (mixed Brazilians). In other words, White Brazilians prefer mixed Brazilians over purely Black Brazilians.
South Africa: 11.4% with the majority being between Black South Africans and Coloured South Africans. Whites are the least likely to marry out.
The Netherlands: 10% - 16%.
England and Wales (the subject being discussed): 7%. In fact, the search reveals that often the pairings between White British are with other WHITE PEOPLE from Eastern Europe. England is the most acceptable place for Black people throughout Europe, and where Black people thrive rather than survive throughout the continent. The US is home to African Americans who constitute the wealthiest group of Black people in the world. Common sense means outside these places, the rate of inter-racial marriages between Blacks and other races wouldn't be HIGH or COMMON.

This is basic mathematics, psychology and economics, aka 1 + 1 = 2, not 500 as lovey-dovey folks like to talk.

Your sister marrying an Italian expat is an EXCEPTION, not the NORM. There are many single Nigerian women in Italy who don't have Italian husbands, even though they speak fluent Italian. There will always be inter-racial marriages, but what is the rate compared to the rest of the population? What has the rate been since?

My advice at this point is that you take your time to investigate the root causes of why some people strictly prefer their own race. If you do this, I am sure you will out that the actual reason is lack of exposure and enlightenment . Often, people, whether Black or White, aren't consciously aware that they're reacting to the unconscious programming which guides them on what to accept or reject as attractive. The truth is , they often aren't thinking for themselves, they're making judgements based on this ingrained programming, which they later try to justify with rationale sounding reasons. This means their racial preferences or rejections aren't based on logic,but on a conditioned sentiment that is ,at its core, inherently racist

I would have skipped this side if not for the "lack of exposure and enlightenment" phrase. What makes you think you are more enlightened or exposed than I am? Why should an overdose of exposure and enlightenment override basic human behaviours? So we should disregard actual inter-racial marriage statistics because of eXpOsUrE aNd eNlIgHtEnMeNt?

This is the worst you have said here.
Advising "any Black woman" to leave Europe and return to Africa or the Caribbean so they can find a marriage partner isn't a solution. It's advising them to surrender to a racist status quo. It's advising them to shrink their lives and opportunities rather than challenging a society to expand its definition of what's considered beautiful and desirable

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Tell this to the hordes of Black women in Europe and the US lamenting the lack of husbands. Tell this to Nigerian women in the UK who say there are no suitable suitors. Tell this to second-generation Nigerian women in the UK who move to Nigeria to find husbands. Challenging what is considered to be beautiful, you say? So you want to challenge and erase basic human tendencies to prefer people like them, the same tendency you earlier supported? Who are you to dictate to other people who they should marry and copulate with?

Honestly , I am encouraging you to investigate the root causes of racial preference so that you don't become an unconscious conduit for harmful stereotypes. The ideas you have expressed here aren't neutral observations, they're damaging racial sentiments that have real world consequences for how people are perceived and treated

The root causes of racial or even tribal preferences are basic human preferences for people who look like them. P for Period. Why is this difficult to grasp? Humans prefer those who speak, look and talk like they do. How is this a bad thing? In fact, this is the basis for human survival over the years - mating with those who look, speak and behave like themselves. This is how different groups have survived and lasted without being erased for thousands of years.

PulaPower:
But this one like Bag of Onions isn’t a fine girl..

She for let fine girls do the talking..

Somebody finally said it.

Glimpsetv:
A Nigerian lady has taken to social media to express how overwhelming it is to work in the UK, even as a fine girl. According to her, nobody cares how beautiful you are, and she now misses Nigeria deeply.

In the emotional clip, the lady struggled to find her voice for a few seconds, silently sobbing before finally speaking. Crying, she said in Pidgin, “8 to 8, 12 hours… body go tell you.” She then let out a painful laugh before quietly saying goodbye to the camera.

In other words, nobody cares whether you’re a fine girl or not — you must work hard like everyone else. Many have interpreted her statement to mean that, unlike in Nigeria where being attractive might earn you some favors, in the UK beauty doesn’t spare you from hard work.

Watch the video and share your thoughts in the comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ealw73w4iew?si=pcO2Al6KPikb5M78

Are Buffalos Allowed to work in the uk? Just asking for my late grandfather.

Putindbutt:
Easy.. don't take it personal, I was only attacking the message, not you. The only issue is your shoulder padding, those selling points, sell them to me, I fit buy am. Omali.. you know how to reach me.

I am not looking validation from you.have a good day.happy weekend.

SAMBARRY:
I am not looking validation from you.have a good day.happy weekend.

Try dey calm down and relax. The day you meet me, you will be happy. I even fit bless your weekend.

Ray Charles can see she has the body of a middle age woman with 4 belle. Abroad people want attractive in shape women. No sack of potatoes

Gerrard59:
A research conducted in the predominantly white West has to be Eurocentric, and there is nothing wrong with that. If the research were to be conducted in sub-Saharan Africa, African features would come top. BTW, the research is publicly available, and there are also studies which show few marriages between Blacks and Asians. Is that also Eurocentric?

You're correct that a study conducted in the Western world will have a Eurocentric perspective. However, the flaw is not in the study's existence, but in your interpretation of its findings. Using a study that documents a pattern of bias within a particular context and universalising it as an objective truth is a misuse of data. This is statistical fallacy and it spreads a falsehood by presenting a social bias as a universal fact of desirability..

2. The mere availability of a research paper online does not automatically make it reliable or valid. Credible research must meet specific criteria , such as Peer review, methodological rigor and a clear distinction between correlation and causation .Furthermore, no reputable scientific journal would publish a study that explicitly ranks entire races on a "desirability list." Not only would it be unethical, but it would also be recognized as promoting racist ideology, not science. So, it's straws you're clutching at each time you mention those " available" research . They are only available, online, but not where they would pass as evidence .

3. The low marriage rate between Asians and Black women is extraneous to our current discussion. We're not debating the specific intermarriage rates between various groups, but your core claim about the desirability and attractiveness of Black people. Introducing this statistics is a deflection from the main point . Please stick to the topic at hand .

That is an exception, not the norm. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Black women are better appreciated in Black dominated environments than in places with few Black people. The phrase "can get too fat" might come across as too harsh, but in reality, Black women have greater body mass compared to women from other racial groups, except maybe those in South America. Steatopygia isn't common to women outside Southern Africa, and we see it in variations across Black women in West Africa, Central Africa, Black dominated areas in the US and the Caribbean.

1. Your dismissal of Fatima Diame as " exception", not the"norm " exposes the fundamental flaw in your logic. You're operating on the premise that whiteness is the default, and that non-white is the deviation.

The real issue is that you have defined the " norm" by a Eurocentric standard, so any evidence to the contrary is automatically classified as an " exception" . Fatima Diame is not an exception to Black beauty, she is a thrilling expression of it. Her global acclaim proves that when beautiful Black women are given a platform, they are widely recognised and celebrated. We see this in Oluchi Onweagba , the super model, ( winner of the M-Net- Face of Africa ), Agbani Darego, ( a former Miss world) , Chidinma Adetsina, ( first runner up miss universe) and the countless Black women in Nigeria and the diaspora whose beauty is undeniable. The problem is not a lack of beauty, but a lack of visibility and a biased lens, which unfortunately, you as an African are wearing, that fails to see it unless it is on a global stage or endorsed by White people. To claim they are "exceptions", is to ignore the vast and diverse reality of Black beauty .

2. Here, you're making a common but critical error by equating greater body mass with being fat. This is scientifically inaccurate , and it exposes your lack of understanding of basic human physiology. Greater body mass doesn't translate to " can get too fat"

Body mass simply refers to the total weight of a person and this is composed of , muscle mass, bone density, water , organ weight and body fat.

The athlete Fatima Diame is the perfect example of why your logic falls flat. . She no doubt has a greater body mass than a sedentary woman of the same height, but this body mass of hers isn't composed of fat . It's composed of powerful, dense muscle and strong bone structure. Her body mass is high, but her body fat percentage is very low.

Steatopygia which is the accumulation of fat in the buttocks isn't the same as general obesity. . The condition a genetic trait not found in every Black woman is often accompanied by a low body mass index. This again confirms body mass and fat aren't the same

" they can get too fat" is a gross generalisation . There are countless Black women with a slender, willowy frames, just as there are countless white women with a higher body indexes with the same tendency to grow very fat.

Historical dynamics? This sounds like the typical lovey-dovey diatribe I read daily. So, what would the fewer marriages between Black women and Asian men be called?

No , it's not "lovey dovey diatribe" . If you understood the reference, you wouldn't call it that.

Historical power dynamics, in the context I used it , refers to how centuries of colonialism, transatlantic slave trade, and Eurocentric media have systematically promoted specific White features as the universal Idea of beauty, while simultaneously demeaning and devaluing African features much as you have done here.

The power dynamics is that one group had, and still has, the global influence to define beauty for everyone else. The tragic result of this is seen in our communities, where our girls and women feel compelled to bleach their skin , which they euphemistically refer to as " bringing out my true colour" , and wear expensive European wigs to conform to a standard that was imposed, not earned.

This legacy actively shapens modern dating behaviour in the Western world and their media representation of it. When you ignore this history, you're analysing the world with a major blindspot . You see the result of this bias ( like the research you cite) and misconstrue it for the cause rather than recognising it as the devastating consequence of a centuries- long project of social conditioning.

2. You asked, " So what would the fewer marriage between Black women and Asian men be called? . I will answer that.

They're called counter -evidence .

You argued that the "reality" is that people inherently and overwhelmingly " prefer their own" , and absolute claim that requires 100% consistency to be true. The moment exceptions emerge, your absolute rule is broken.

Therefore, the exact number is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if they represent 1% or 10%. What matters is that their mere existence and growing number has invalidated and continues to invalidates your absolutist statement. These marriages don't need to be majority to prove you wrong. They just need to exist. That's all

Nigerian women in the US have made countless videos relating their experiences in the dating world, and the best places they recommend to find husbands are where there are a lot of Black people or specifically Nigerians, and these places are in the Southeastern and South-central parts of the US.

" Countless videos" by Nigerian women is anecdotal, not data,. Moreover, those recommendations aren't a guarantee for success. In fact, many savvy individuals deliberately avoid such targeted spaces because they know it can be environments where desperate people are easily taken advantage of .

Oh! So we agree that humans prefer those who look, talk and behave like them, abi? We agree on one thing, then.

But not strictly for marriage.

You have simply agreed that humans prefer their kind, yet you are against my statement. If they wish to live amongst their kind, does this not mean they wish to marry within their group and raise families within that same group?

I only agree with you that people prefer to mingle with their kind, but haven't agreed with you that they do so strictly for marriage. I explained that congregating with one's cultural group is a universal human need for community and belonging. But you have you made a logical leap from that to people only want to marry within their race .

We haven't agreed on the same thing as you imagined. A Nigerian woman living in a Nigerian community in the US can choose to marry a man of any race. Your claim that the primary reason for this congregation is to increase their chances for dating and marrying Nigerian men or black men is a reductive stereotype, and you haven't provided any evidence for it beyond the countless videos, which I already said are anecdotal, not proven data .

Honestly, this is the issue I have with lovey-dovey folks - the blatant disregard for basic mathematics and probabilities. No wonder your cohort in the US wanted to ban mathematics in California because "math is racist". These are the issues.

For one, the rate of inter-racial marriages is low and has always been low, whether in the US, Brazil and South Africa, all of which are amongst the most racially diverse societies.

A mere Internet search shows the following:
US: 19% of newlyweds are inter-racial
Brazil: 30% with the majority between Whites and Pardos (mixed Brazilians). In other words, White Brazilians prefer mixed Brazilians over purely Black Brazilians.
South Africa: 11.4% with the majority being between Black South Africans and Coloured South Africans. Whites are the least likely to marry out.
The Netherlands: 10% - 16%.
England and Wales (the subject being discussed): 7%. In fact, the search reveals that often the pairings between White British are with other WHITE PEOPLE from Eastern Europe. England is the most acceptable place for Black people throughout Europe, and where Black people thrive rather than survive throughout the continent. The US is home to African Americans who constitute the wealthiest group of Black people in the world. Common sense means outside these places, the rate of inter-racial marriages between Blacks and other races wouldn't be HIGH or COMMON.

This is basic mathematics, psychology and economics, aka 1 + 1 = 2, not 500 as lovey-dovey folks like to talk.

Your sister marrying an Italian expat is an EXCEPTION, not the NORM. There are many single Nigerian women in Italy who don't have Italian husbands, even though they speak fluent Italian. There will always be inter-racial marriages, but what is the rate compared to the rest of the population? What has the rate been since?

You have once again misrepresented my argument and in doing so, are attacking a point I never made. The issue here isn't about me not knowing basic mathematics, but of you lacking a basic understanding of simple logic.

I did not say interracial marriages were more common than intra-racial ones. My point was purely logical: if your claim that people have an inherent, overwhelming preference for their own kind for marriage, then the existence of any happy , successful interracial marriages would be virtually impossible . The fact that my cousin's marriage exists and that of millions of others like it , regardless of their statistical percentage , completely renders your absolutist claim invalid.

You're trying to win a debate about statistics I never started. My position is that your rule that people only prefer their kind isn't a rule at all. A true scientific law has no exception. Your so called natural preference is a social trend,not a biological imperative.

The statistics you introduced has even undermined your position without you realising it.

The selective use of percentage is a common tactics to downplay the significance of a phenomenon. it makes a large number of people seem like a negligible statistics , 1% or 19%. But those percentages when converted into raw numbers represent millions of real lives and real love that directly contradicts your absolute claim . You're using the language of statistics to hide the human reality they represent .So, don't lecture me about mathematics. Your inability to make sense of the simple logical argument I made proves that your understanding of it is superficial. True mastery of maths requires logical thinking, and on that front, you"ve been found wanting.


Finally before you misrepresent me again, let me be clear about what I said earlier concerning my cousin. I stated she met her husband here in Nigeria while they were both staff of an oil exploration company. She didn't meet him after relocating to Italy. Therefore, don't drag her personal story I shared as example into your generalisations about why other Nigerian women' in Italy may be struggling.

I would have skipped this side if not for the "lack of exposure and enlightenment" phrase. What makes you think you are more enlightened or exposed than I am? Why should an overdose of exposure and enlightenment override basic human behaviours? So we should disregard actual inter-racial marriage statistics because of eXpOsUrE aNd eNlIgHtEnMeNt?

No. I didn't refer to you as unenlightened and unexposed. You misunderstood my point . I was describing those with a specific mindset: that of a person who strictly , without exception, refuses to consider a partner from another race, even when presented with an individual they might otherwise find attractive, loving and compatible. My argument is that this unbending,blanket rejection is a sign of unexamined bais.

There's a great difference between having a cultural preference and holding a racial prejudice. .

A person who's enlightened and well exposed might have a preference for their own cultural background, but remains open minded about outsiders. They can meet someone from another race, recognise their beauty and character, and because of this have their natural preference for their own overridden by a sincere and genuine human connection.

A person operating on unconscious programming uses a rigid, racial filter. They quickly and easily dismiss an entire group of people in advance irrespective of individual qualities. This kind of behaviour isn't natural preference, but prejudice .

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The statistics you continue to mention about low interracial marriages between Black women and other races , especially Asians and white people are actually documents bias, not the truth . Those stats are a snapshot of racial bias in action in highly superficial dating app platforms . It's proof of the societal problems I have been discussing with you, not evidence that Black women are inherently less desirable. A study showing that people are biased against employing someone with a " Nigerian name" doesn't prove those Nigerians are bad workers, it proves instead that employers are prejudiced against hiring Nigerians .Apply the same logic to get my point

Tell this to the hordes of Black women in Europe and the US lamenting the lack of husbands. Tell this to Nigerian women in the UK who say there are no suitable suitors. Tell this to second-generation Nigerian women in the UK who move to Nigeria to find husbands. Challenging what is considered to be beautiful, you say? So you want to challenge and erase basic human tendencies to prefer people like them, the same tendency you earlier supported? Who are you to dictate to other people who they should marry and copulate with?

The Idea that " hordes of Black women" , especially Nigerian women in the diaspora, lamenting a lack of suitable partners represents a problem unique to them is a serious misreading of reality. This challenge also affects women from all races, White, Asian, and Latina alike..

What you're falling to accept is the well - documented, broader social trend in Western societies where people of all backgrounds are marrying less, preferring to focus more on education, careers, and choosing alternative family structure . To then put this universal shift solely on a perceived lack of attractiveness in Black women is not only dishonest,but very absurd


The main problem is not that Black women are uniquely undesirable. The problem is that within a dating pool already shaped by racial bias, they face additional unfair hurdles. My entire argument is that we should challenge and dismantle these biases masquerading as natural preferences, not advice the victims of this biases to pack their bags and flee to Africa or the Caribbean where they can be tolerated.

This solution of yours is not only insulting, but spectacularly ignorant of the actual reality.

Are you not aware that women in Nigeria and across Africa also face significant challenges in finding suitable marriage partners. To suggest that Africa is a guarantee paradise for marriage is a complete fantasy.

You accuse me of dictating to others, which is a shocking irony. You're the one who issue the directive that Black women should abandon their lives and opportunities abroad to solve a problem. I haven't dictated a single life choice to anyone. I'm challenging the harmful idea , the ideology, you're promoting, which claims Black women are globally " less than" . I am not telling people what to love. I am telling you that your rationale for their choices is rooted in bias.

And again , I do not seek to "erase basic human tendencies" . I seek to encourage people to transcend base prejudices . The most enlightened human tendency is the capacity to see shared humanity beyond superficial differences.

Finally, let's be unequivocally clear about something. Racial preferences is not, for God sake, a basic human tendency. It's learned social behaviour which can be unlearned . It's shocking that you would label racism, a force condemned by enlightened societies, as a fundamental part of human nature. This bizarre conflation reveals a deep misunderstanding of both history and human psychology.

The root causes of racial or even tribal preferences are basic human preferences for people who look like them. P for Period. Why is this difficult to grasp? Humans prefer those who speak, look and talk like they do. How is this a bad thing? In fact, this is the basis for human survival over the years - mating with those who look, speak and behave like themselves. This is how different groups have survived and lasted without being erased for thousands of years.

It's true that humans have a natural tendency to prefer familiar faces and cultures. However , you're making a critical mistake by conflating this with a preference for race.

Race , as we understand it today is not an ancient tribal division. It's a modern social construct invented to justify colonialism and slavery. Our ancestors didn't have racial preference because the modern concept of race based on skin colour didn't exist in those ancient times.

What existed was a division based on the group one belonged to ; the " civilised" versus the " barbarian. In the ancient world, your status was determined by your language, culture and customs, not by your skin colour. A " barbarian " could become " civilised " by adopting new customs . This is totally different from the immutable biologically justified hierarchy of modern races:


Therefore, modern racism is learned behaviour. People aren't born with racial prejudice. Racism is learnt through conscious and unconscious conditioning. And this is why not every White person is racist, and why people can unlearn these biases

Thank you for your time.