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Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by forgiveness: 10:53am On Oct 23, 2025
OredoPikin2:
u saw Eko and u are asking for Benins
the Eko in Lagos are Benins na or you dont know Eko is Benin?
Eko are not Benin. Stop lying here.

Eko are Yoruba descendants that came back from slavery and the Indigenous Eko people.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by FreeStuffsNG:
Nwaikpe:
Funny that you are making claims over facts.

"Lagos division."

grin grin grin

Where do you think the name Lagos came from?

I guess you don't know it came from the people who started the town and made it Portuguese.

So, a people lived there, had a city, and didn't have a name? What is Eko? Why didn't the Protuguese see it and call it Eko if it ever existed? grin grin grin
Smh.
Never mind. I will not give you free education about Lagos here . You're an outsider wink
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Honestey: 10:55am On Oct 23, 2025
This was before the great invasion
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by FreeStuffsNG: 10:56am On Oct 23, 2025
[quote author=OredoPikin2 post=137220810][/quote]Ariwo kọ ni music, empty barrels lo ma n pariwo.

Even today, Edo na Lagos wannabe wink
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ecomfreecourse: 10:56am On Oct 23, 2025
masterfactor:
The people that called LAGOS a no mans land was not even part of the Lagos right from inception. People from the south East has no history with people from the South West.
Really now I am wondering how a man from osun state took over your dear Lagos state up till now
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by forgiveness:
qtx:
Before una start to the fite unasef make una ask simple and smart questions: Were there STATiSENSES in 1891? there was no internet, no proper documentation, No Nigeria, no Southwest, no South East, no nothing. So why allow this so-called statistical portal confuse una?
There was no mathematics and Census in 1891, abi.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Predictor3: 10:57am On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.
Never mind. I will not give you free education about Lagos here
grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 10:58am On Oct 23, 2025
MrSly:
So you meant that land had no people living in it. There show me the ancestral land of Eko people. You people and self denial. I never see people this cunning.
No, sir.
There were NEVER any people living in that area, sir.

Let's assume there were; two things would have happened: the Portuguese, who got there first and named it Lagos, would have respected the name of the place as in "Benin" or "Calabar," or would have cleared the place as in the case of the American Indians.

As I stated, no Yoruba nation is ever known to be riverine. Go through your history. Go through your artifacts. You will never see any evidence that linked the people to tools or means that helped them live or move around water bodies.

You can find it with the Calabar, Ibibio, Urhobo, etc. Check their history and view their historical artifacts.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Honestey: 10:58am On Oct 23, 2025
chatinent:
That means that the people who claim to own Lagos today are not even from Lagos!
You mean the ibos who later invaded Lagos right?
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 10:59am On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.
Never mind. I will not give you free education about Lagos here
Can a man give what he doesn't have?

grin grin grin grin grin
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Mathewrichard99: 11:00am On Oct 23, 2025
I think the Igbos were a nation of their own at that period. They were probably maintaining a communal existence. More like a close society. They weren't interacting with external entities but just themselves alone.....
Ttalk:
Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by OredoPikin2: 11:00am On Oct 23, 2025
forgiveness:
Eko are not Benin. Stop lying here.

Eko are Yoruba descendants that came back from slavery and the Indigenous Eko people.
u can continue lying to yourself
if u can reason without emotion, ask yourself why till today, the oba of lagos always claim Benin root and ancestry.
ask ur parent about Prince Ado. the first Oba of Lagos.
ask ur people where Ashipa came from.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by OredoPikin2: 11:04am On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Ariwo kọ ni music, empty barrels lo ma n pariwo.

Even today, Edo na Lagos wannabe wink
go and tell that to oba akiolu
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Lukuluku69(m): 11:07am On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Meaning that no one owned the place.
Everyone came from their different places and claimed the land since it became a thriving sea port.

Abi?

If you want to know what ownership means, check the census of Oyo State in that year. Then you would discover that at that time, ALL COMMUNITIES were homogeneous.
We all came from somewhere (Our Ancestors) no one germinated from the soil. So technically, you are right but you will agree with me that the longer a people stay in a place or inhabit a place, the more they can lay a claim to ancestry of that place

The figures you have was ust a Colonists Census figure of what they met on ground when they came hence the "Foundational Census" label.

It is interesting to note that, the Colonists counted Hausa and Nupe people in 1861 in Lagos but no representation from those who shout loudest that the place belongs to no one.

Don't you find that odd? I do.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Gerhards: 11:09am On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.
Never mind. I will not give you free education about Lagos here
You are just arguing with emotion and he's arguing with facts
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by qtx(m): 11:17am On Oct 23, 2025
forgiveness:
There was no mathematics and Census in 1981, abi.
Let them show us the source of all those details; otherwise, it is a nullity.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Kaiser20: 11:18am On Oct 23, 2025
Ttalk:
Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it
Don't let blind people show you a direction.
They might Not be there yesterday, but today the wondon is , the Igbos have recorded a great entrey and development of the state
It not you startetd a Show that maters, but who are pretsent now.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Nwaikpe: 11:19am On Oct 23, 2025
Lukuluku69:
We all came from somewhere (Our Ancestors) no one germinated from the soil. So technically, you are right but you will agree with me that the longer a people stay in a place or inhabit a place, the more they can lay a claim to ancestry of that place

The figures you have was ust a Colonists Census figure of what they met on ground when they came hence the "Foundational Census" label.

It is interesting to note that, the Colonists counted Hausa and Nupe people in 1861 in Lagos but no representation from those who shout loudest that the place belongs to no one.

Don't you find that odd? I do.
First, I don't find it odd.

But importantly, let's not focus on that "those people" you inferred in your statement. They are naturally noisy, chest-beating, and dubious in character.

The focus should be on: did anyone ever own Lagos? Was there a people that could lay claim to Lagos as their ancestral land?

The Fulanis conquered Kwara in the early 1800s, settled there, and up till today, even they cannot lay claim to the land. They still see themselves as aliens in that place.

Then how come some people can migrate to a place, lay claim that it is their land, and deny others ownership of the place too, just because some usuals chest beat over it?


But as I said, I don't find it odd because, just as commerce was thriving in that region due to the Brits and Portuguese, other administrative procedures were thriving in other parts of the land too. Rel!g!on was thriving in their land, and commerce was not their focus; that is why they never migrated there. I bet you know what the Hausas and Nupes were selling to the Portuguese and Brits there. wink They were selling t h e m s e l v e s and that was a trade the chest beaters were never involved in. Never (respect to their ancestors for that).
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by ceejay80s(m): 11:22am On Oct 23, 2025
Nairaland is disappointing
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by olabrad: 11:22am On Oct 23, 2025
AqualinaXYZ:
Now the real Eko Lagos indigenes no even reach 2%



Every south westerner has moved to claim Lagos



Not like they even have beautiful houses



They all live in face me I face u
Check again. Eko indigenes make up 23%
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Tayorshd87(m): 11:23am On Oct 23, 2025
MatrixCircle:
Because they was no Nigeria then, the South East was a country of its own then known as Republic of Biafra with strong economy and trade and no need to come to Lagos, until Nigeria was later created and that Biafran buoyant economy with Sapele and Rivers seaports were destroyed out of envy, their seaport was destroyed to favour Lagos. So they moved to Lagos to use the seaport to import and export their goods, and so doing there developed Lagos to what it is today.
See as u take your time to type lies 🤣
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Schlumeinstein: 11:29am On Oct 23, 2025
MatrixCircle:
Because they was no Nigeria then, the South East was a country of its own then known as Republic of Biafra with strong economy and trade and no need to come to Lagos, until Nigeria was later created and that Biafran buoyant economy with Sapele and Rivers seaports were destroyed out of envy, their seaport was destroyed to favour Lagos. So they moved to Lagos to use the seaport to import and export their goods, and so doing there developed Lagos to what it is today.
NEVER NEVER.....there Was NEVER nothing like biafiaa or whatsoever u call it.....The European came through the SEA .the colony then was Known as CALABAR ..RIVER ..IKOT ABASI...BENIN


OJUKWU BROUGHT BIAFRY.
.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 11:33am On Oct 23, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
By design and our upbringing, Lagos will welcome you with a warm embrace.

We are genuinely happy to see you flourish and prosper in Lagos. If our forebears didn't build it, you will not have a Lagos today and if they didn't raise us to welcome strangers, you will not call Lagos home. There are parts of your region who are hostile to visitors and don't even rent out land to strangers.

If you like ignore the reality that Lagos intentionally will never be for sale wink
Not new, almost every community in the world welcomes others. The people of Abuja, for example, or you can talk about the US, which takes in millions of people each year. There is nothing incredible about that. In my village, we have a few Yoruba people. That's how life is meant to be. I also know landlords in Lagos that don't rent to Igbo so the hostility goes both ways. Bad human behavior is not restricted to any tribe.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Schlumeinstein: 11:34am On Oct 23, 2025
Let me state in strong SOUTH SOUTH is NIGER DELTA.......there will never be anything like biafiaa....we don't and will never ASSOCIATE with igbotic biafraas or whatsoever u call it because OUR FORE FATHER REJECTED IT...
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 11:37am On Oct 23, 2025
Softmirror:
Add the two bolded together. That is not growth. Charity begins at home. I PITY YOU!!!
Lol, you are free to pity, but don't complain. And yes, charity begins at home. We Igbos have a saying that wealth is only recognized when brought home, which is why no matter how big we become in Lagos, we never forget to build a mansion in our village.
I want you to continue to pity 50 years from now when we have dug our feet deeper and deeper into our 6th state Lagos.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by forgiveness: 11:39am On Oct 23, 2025
OredoPikin2:
u can continue lying to yourself
if u can reason without emotion, ask yourself why till today, the oba of lagos always claim Benin root and ancestry.
ask ur parent about Prince Ado. the first Oba of Lagos.
ask ur people where Ashipa came from.
Ashipa is an Awori man. He went to Benin and married the daughter of Benin. Ado is the child born by both that later became King.

After Ado mother died, he requested a town in Remo to bring Eyo masquerade to celebrate the burial of his mother and that was how Eyo masquerade came to Lagos.

I don't need to ask anybody because that is our history. You can't change it.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Softmirror: 11:41am On Oct 23, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, you are free to pity, but don't complain. And yes, charity begins at home. We Igbos have a saying that wealth is only recognized when brought home, which is why no matter how big we become in Lagos, we never forget to build a mansion in our village.
I want you to continue to pity 50 years from now when we have dug our feet deeper and deeper into our 6th state Lagos .
You sincerely lack foresight, despite all that is before your nose. Why can't you people take your time and reason deeply instead of digging in vain?!
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by RexTramadol1: 11:42am On Oct 23, 2025
Toluwanise247:
The igbo’s don’t exist then ?
Where dem wan see tfare?
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by tctrills: 11:43am On Oct 23, 2025
Softmirror:
You sincerely lack foresight, despite all that is before your nose. Why can't you people take your time and reason deeply instead of digging in vain?!
Lol, I knew you must end up insulting. You guys can't hide hate. We were both discussing the progress of the Igbos in Lagos, but somehow, you started getting bitter. From pitying me to hating me. You guys tribalism is glorious.
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Ttalk: 11:46am On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
Oh yes,

I guess you purposely ignored the timeline of that census and decided to map that question to our present-day society.

Even cosmopolitan London and New York at that time were 99% Caucasian, 99.9% Christian, and 99.9% English.
The 1%, or 0.01%, were basically traders, and those were at the fringes of the port areas.

In 1891, communities were totally homogenous. The only differences in these communities were the Caucasian colonial masters. Apart from that, if a Yoruba man travelled to Kano, I know what an Uthman Danfodiyo would do. If a Hausa man travelled to Calabar, I know what the pot of soup would have been made of.

Tell the truth, there was no one there in Lagos. No Yoruba community is ever known to be riverine only in Ondo. No Yoruba community ever thrived or built their communities near the riverines.
What's the meaning of this nonsense. I Lagosian and our history revolves around water, the culture, food and story has so much connection with water.

How dare you tell the story of the people you are not part of, this insult is becoming nauseating and if you are given appropriate response now that's when mod will active ban.

Never ever should you speak about people culture and heritage you don't know anything about
Re: The Results Of The 1891 Census Of Lagos Indigenes by Lukuluku69(m): 11:49am On Oct 23, 2025
Nwaikpe:
First, I don't find it odd.

But importantly, let's not focus on that "those people" you inferred in your statement. They are naturally noisy, chest-beating, and dubious in character.

The focus should be on: did anyone ever own Lagos? Was there a people that could lay claim to Lagos as their ancestral land?

The Fulanis conquered Kwara in the early 1800s, settled there, and up till today, even they cannot lay claim to the land. They still see themselves as aliens in that place.

Then how come some people can migrate to a place, lay claim that it is their land, and deny others ownership of the place too, just because some usuals chest beat over it?


But as I said, I don't find it odd because, just as commerce was thriving in that region due to the Brits and Portuguese, other administrative procedures were thriving in other parts of the land too. Rel!g!on was thriving in their land, and commerce was not their focus; that is why they never migrated there. I bet you know what the Hausas and Nupes were selling to the Portuguese and Brits there. wink They were selling t h e m s e l v e s and that was a trade the chest beaters were never involved in. Never (respect to their ancestors for that).
Like I said earlier, technically, no one owns anywhere, but people can claim ancestry over a place they have been over a period.

You have the example of the Fulani sojourn in Kwara. Yes, they came, were pushed back, but eventually settled in that space, and if you go there till today, you will see the line between the earlier people and the Fulanis. That the Fulanis seeing yourself as aliens in a space is not the same as saying no one owns the space.

And everyone traded in Slaves, the degree is the difference. Everyone does. Also, the Brits and the Portuguese find it harder to move in the Savanah and the Coasts than the thick Forest of the hinterland of the east and they never operated the city states of the Hausa/Nupe/Yoruba Kingdoms, so there was no need to sell rival city/Kingdoms citizens as slaves. Didn't they have the Outcasts amongst them or labelled some as Outcasts?
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