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Nwaikpe:
But it is clear that everyone there was from different places.
Meaning there is absolutely nothing like "Lagosian" but a confederation of people from different places.


Abi you decided to overlook the stats and just make a comment?

No, nothing of the sort is "clear". The reason so many of these groups were there is that the British-created Lagos protectorate was carved out of land was already occupied by these groups! That's why you have parts of Lagos with names ending in "Egba", "Ijebu" and so forth. The only part of Lagos state that was overwhelmingly Awori was Lagos Island.

In short, you'll have to look for another excuse to pretend Lagos has always been some sort of "no man's land" ...

Emeskhalifa:
What's this sponsored bs?

Deliberately omitted the Igbos or what's this?

There's no omitting of the Igbo here, as at 1891 there was nothing like Nigeria, the Igbo were still yet to be conquered by the British, so there's no way you will see an igbo in Lagos at this time.

Ttalk:
I warned you severally to stop claiming Benin, if it look like Akpu and smells like Akpu then it's definitely Akpu.

Let that sink

when u are presented with historical facts, u will start doing tribalism
lolz
oga provide answer na

even ur oduduwa is a benin prince

u think we are u guys that dont keep record instead fabricate stories that even when a 2yrsvold child read it, he will be asking whether una mental capacity is okay.

tell me who ashipa parents are in awori since u claim he is from awori.

tell me the name of the oba of benin daughter he married since u claimed he married oba of benin daughter

i am still waiting

Ojuntana:
All these figures are not reliable
People generally shied away from census in the colonial period

You re Absolutely right. The binis/edo were here in lagos before 1800s. And the statistics don't even show them at all. My great grand father was since 1700, and I am the 4th generation.

Another thing about this statistics is that the people of those days were more native patriotic to their homeland. My grandparents never like the idea of being buried in lagos.

And if not for modernity and new philosophy of the new world that most of us have decided to incline. We wouldnnot be counted among the number of lagos citizens, and lagos as we know it won't have 22million population.

masterfactor:
The people that called LAGOS a no mans land was not even part of the Lagos right from inception. People from the south East has no history with people from the South West.

South East don't give a fck about Lagos...
Just let us live and do our business peacefully...

We have every right to vote for any candidate of our choice during elections, stop gaslighting Igbos to vote APC...

Nwaikpe:
No, sir. They never labelled anyone as that.

They had a caste system, and some fell in the lower caste.

The reason they weren't involved in that trade was simply because (never because they were more moral):
1. They never had anything like a centralized system of governance
2. They were receptive of the colonial culture and religion faster than anyone and second only to the Calabar. So, the white men saw them as equals first.

And where did they learn the Caste System from? Their Religion I would suppose. And I do hope you know what the Caste System entails? Lesser humans amongst humans due to birth privileges, ancestry etc.

And NO EUROPEANS of that time ever considered the Africans or any African as EQUAL, least of all a people still in their old haunts, almost half naked and living in thatched roofed mud houses!

How is 1891 a foundational year for a place that had been occupied centuries before?

is that the answer to my questions ?

we are discussing lagos history and u are doing bigotry
oga answer my question na
every benin child that was tot history from their parents know 90% of what i am saying.
what are u using document to do this child
answer question and stop deflecting
the other guy abi na ur second account done run

OredoPikin2:
when u are presented with historical facts, u will start doing tribalism
lolz
oga provide answer na

even ur oduduwa is a benin prince

u think we are u guys that dont keep record instead fabricate stories that even when a 2yrsvold child read it, he will be asking whether una mental capacity is okay.

tell me who ashipa parents are in awori since u claim he is from awori.

tell me the name of the oba of benin daughter he married since u claimed he married oba of benin daughter

i am still waiting

omohayek:
No, nothing of the sort is "clear". The reason so many of these groups were there is that the British-created Lagos protectorate was carved out of land was already occupied by these groups! That's why you have parts of Lagos with names ending in "Egba", "Ijebu" and so forth. The only part of Lagos state that was overwhelmingly Awori was Lagos Island.

In short, you'll have to look for another excuse to pretend Lagos has always been some sort of "no man's land" ...

No matter how fast you run, you cannot run from your history.
Lagos belonged to no one. It was a barren riverine area without people. The Portuguese landed there, and people who came to trade with them developed a community. After the Britons arrived, the community that remained was what was referred to as the Lagos protectorate.
The capital of the colonials was in Calabar, but the Portuguese had already built a viable business area there, which is why it was protected (therefore called a protectorate) by the Brits for their business, which was no more the trade of h u m a n s but other commodities through companies like the UAC.

Seems like una no like una history.

Ttalk:
Are u sure you can read and understand?

I sincerely doubt that, because your response doesn't show you understand what I wrote up there, let me allow you to glow in your ignorance

Ok Sir

Ttalk:
You are wrong Lagos is named after a port town in Portugal.

Every Lagosian who attended University in Lagos had to pass a course in History of Lagos, besides, our fathers are very learned and have records of events that predates Nigeria, You can inbox me if you are so keen to know more about Lagos.

I've been to riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers state and their fishing trap is similar to what we have, but we still retail the superior design and the originality is there. Just as in food and way of life.

Do you even know what a university is? So UniLag or whatever university you are talking about, had to segregate the courses of a "Lagosian" from others?

Oh, so you know that nothing existed there? That is why a new name had to be given to it. Now you know why the place called Oyo was not renamed "Lisbon"—because people were already there.

"Fishing net" design.

You try.

Dogalmighty17:
So Hausa have looooong been indigenes of Lagos state. And they aren't making noise about it. They have every right to demand for a local government of their own in Lagos.

a good of the Hausas in Lagos and Yoruba land were slaves. They later gained their freedom through a revolt, and then a Brit, Glover, took them and reformed them into a militia which was instrumental in conquering Yoruba land and other colonial wars. The Nigerian military can be traced back to these Hausas who were known as "Glover's Hausa".

Nwaikpe:


No matter how fast you run, you cannot run from your history.
Lagos belonged to no one. It was a barren riverine area without people. The Portuguese landed there, and people who came to trade with them developed a community. After the Britons arrived, the community that remained was what was referred to as the Lagos protectorate.
The capital of the colonials was in Calabar, but the Portuguese had already built a viable business area there, which is why it was protected (therefore called a protectorate) by the Brits for their business, which was no more the trade of h u m a n s but other commodities through companies like the UAC.

Seems like una no like una history.

Argument by bald assertion. Where is your evidence for such claims, that we should believe you over all the history books that are freely available?

You can make your ludicrous and dishonest claims as often as you like, but you'll never be regarded as anything more than a ethnic champion seeking to nurse a fragile ego by disseminating blatant propaganda. Your drivel belongs in the same revisionist rubbish-bin as the nonsense from those who claim Palestine was empty before the 19th century, or that South Africa was unsettled before the Boers came in the 17th century.

The most amusing thing about the persistent mendacity of characters like you is that even as you spend all this effort spewing lies about Lagos to soothe your egos, others of your kinsmen are noisily stating how they "don't give a f***" about the same Lagos you put so much energy into lying about. Why all the lying, if Lagos means so little to you people?

Ttalk:
You are wrong Lagos is named after a port town in Portugal.

Every Lagosian who attended University in Lagos had to pass a course in History of Lagos, besides, our fathers are very learned and have records of events that predates Nigeria, You can inbox me if you are so keen to know more about Lagos.

I've been to riverine areas of Bayelsa and Rivers state and their fishing trap is similar to what we have, but we still retail the superior design and the originality is there. Just as in food and way of life.

Do you even know what a university is? So UniLag or whatever university you are talking about, had to segregate the courses of a "Lagosian" from others?

Oh, so you know that nothing existed there? That is why a new name had to be given to it. Now you know why the place called Oyo was not renamed "Lisbon"—because people were already there. Just in case you don't know, it was not named after the town. It was a translation of the word "lagoon" to Portuguese. They settled there, made a community, and called it the name they wished to call it.

"Fishing net" design.

You try.

sparko1:
Maybe you need glasses, over 98% of the people are yorubas, that they are from other states is irrelevant.

Oh, so, there was nothing like a land called Lagos, it was a coming together of Yorubas from different places?

Tell me more.

forgiveness:
Lagos was a Cosmopolitan city as at 1891. It already had Street lights, tram, train, electricity, buildings, houses, port, bridges etc long before it became Parton Nigeria.

Nigeria was developed through the money generated from Lagos. Fact.

You lied!! There was no train in Lagos in 1891.
There's no electricity in Nigeria in 1891.

Make una stop ur baseless facts. When was electricity even entered Europe. Fact kee u there

Nazgul:
Did Nigerian exist in 1891?

What would an Igbo man be doing in Lagos around that time?

The Almaganation of Nigeria took place in 1914. Meaning no Igbo man had any business in yourba land before then.

Teach them history.

ARISHEM:
No igbos there at that time. Now that they were invited they start to claim that it is no man’s land

It was Jakande that called it a No man's land. Unless you're trying to tell me that Jakande was an igbo man

Nazgul:
Did Nigerian exist in 1891?

What would an Igbo man be doing in Lagos around that time?

The Almaganation of Nigeria took place in 1914. Meaning no Igbo man had any business in yourba land before then.

Yes but there were also Nupe and Hausa from the North in Lagos before amalgamation.

No disrespect, but some people say South Easterners were not really wearing clothes and that could have deterred them from mixing with their neighbours.

Ttalk:
Pls show me the population of the Igbo there or I won't accept it

Igbo was not part of Nigeria then. They were still on their way from Israel.

FreeStuffsNG:
By design and our upbringing, Lagos will welcome you with a warm embrace.

We are genuinely happy to see you flourish and prosper in Lagos. If our forebears didn't build it, you will not have a Lagos today and if they didn't raise us to welcome strangers, you will not call Lagos home. There are parts of your region who are hostile to visitors and don't even rent out land to strangers.

If you like ignore the reality that Lagos intentionally will never be for sale

Your forebears didn't build it, it was built first by the British who conquered and turned it into a colony, it was they who first modernized and named it Lagos, colony of Lagos.

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.
Never mind. I will not give you free education about Lagos here . You're an outsider

Answer the question sir

Lukuluku69:
And where did they learn the Caste System from? Their Religion I would suppose. And I do hope you know what the Caste System entails? Lesser humans amongst humans due to birth privileges, ancestry etc.

And NO EUROPEANS of that time ever considered the Africans or any African as EQUAL, least of all a people still in their old haunts, almost half naked and living in thatched roofed mud houses!

Good that you want to focus on those guys. Let's do it.

Where did they learn the caste system from? Where did your people learn your culture from? Religion?


I understand the huts thing. You guys use that statement to console yourself for the fact that the average Igbo community was speaking good English, living in good colonial-style houses, praying the rosary, and even attending universities before the others did.

The only people who superseded them were the Ijaws and Efik/Ibibio. You listen too much to the message of Reno Omokri.
Up till today, there are places in the north that still go about unclothed.

The North African Tuaregs conquered Northern Nigeria before the Britons did. And what they did in Northern Nigeria was that they stripped them of their culture (religion was part of their culture) and gave them a new religion, which they now claim to be their culture. And that was in the early 1800s. You think when the North Africans conquered them, they taught them how to build skyscrapers? The Tauregs only taught them (enforced on them) the clothing of the desert people (and their religion) thereof.



And just so that you get it right: the Briton saw ALL who accepted the Christian faith as equals. That was a part you never knew. The church never discriminated between bound or free, rich or poor, and the Britons were under the Anglican church. You thought the same way Adamu was treated is the same Chukwudi was?

Nwaikpe:
Oh, so, there was nothing like a land called Lagos, it was a coming together of Yorubas from different places?

Tell me more.

I hope you don't have children, passing this kind of stupidity to another generation is disheartening.

The statement simply means 98 percent of the people there at the time were yorubas, so it's yoruba land, whether it was called Lagos or any other names is irrelevant, the land and the people are the same.

Mathewrichard99:
I think the Igbos were a nation of their own at that period. They were probably maintaining a communal existence. More like a close society. They weren't interacting with external entities but just themselves alone.....

They were interacting mostly with the people in the South South region, Kalabari, Ibibio, Efik, Ijaw, Opobo etc. But most importantly, at the time that this census was taken, the British were yet to conquer the Igbo land, there was nothing like Nigeria as we know it.

OredoPikin2:
when u are presented with historical facts, u will start doing tribalism
lolz
oga provide answer na

even ur oduduwa is a benin prince

u think we are u guys that dont keep record instead fabricate stories that even when a 2yrsvold child read it, he will be asking whether una mental capacity is okay.

tell me who ashipa parents are in awori since u claim he is from awori.

tell me the name of the oba of benin daughter he married since u claimed he married oba of benin daughter

i am still waiting

Tell us where their so called Benin Prince (Ekalederhan) kpaid? Their Benin Prince died in Ughoton while Oduduwa died in Ile-Ife. The Benin Prince and Oduduwa are not the same person but the imagination of those who want to rewrite history.

omohayek:
Argument by bald assertion. Where is your evidence for such claims, that we should believe you over all the history books that are freely available?

You can make your ludicrous and dishonest claims as often as you like, but you'll never be regarded as anything more than a ethnic champion seeking to nurse a fragile ego by disseminating blatant propaganda. Your drivel belongs in the same revisionist rubbish-bin as the nonsense from those who claim Palestine was empty before the 19th century, or that South Africa was unsettled before the Boers came in the 17th century.

The most amusing thing about the persistent mendacity of characters like you is that even as you spend all this effort spewing lies about Lagos to soothe your egos, others of your kinsmen are noisily stating how they "don't give a f***" about the same Lagos you put so much energy into lying about. Why all the lying, if Lagos means so little to you people?

Funny that anyone who tells the truth is roped into the class of those who you don't like. Automatically, to you, I'm Igbo.

I will ask you these two questions:

1. What was the name of the town that the Lagosian people had before the Portuguese came and gave them that name?
2. What was the name of the country of Palestinians, and what was their tribe before they were given the name Palestinians?

I will give you some clue:

1. Name just one Yoruba community that was built around the river or lagoon during that period.
2. The current-day Jews bear names like Netanyahu that reflect the culture and religion of the people who once stayed there. Give me one Gazan name that reflects such: Abdul Al-Nasser? Abdul Al-Kassam? Abdul Al-Soudani? Abdul Al-Yemeni?

Schlumeinstein:
Let me state in strong SOUTH SOUTH is NIGER DELTA.......there will never be anything like biafiaa....we don't and will never ASSOCIATE with igbotic biafraas or whatsoever u call it because OUR FORE FATHER REJECTED IT...

Femi we have heard you

chatinent:
That means that the people who claim to own Lagos today are not even from Lagos!

Possibly they have not adopted full clothing during this period, so mingling with Lagosian will be strange at this period of the century