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OriOko88:
You lied!! There was no train in Lagos in 1891.
There's no electricity in Nigeria in 1891.

Make una stop ur baseless facts. When was electricity even entered Europe. Fact kee u there

True! Tram started in 1901. Construction was already ongoing.

tctrills:
Lol, no problem, whatever makes you sleep at night
. That ship has long sailed. It's not a matter of if but when. Peace

Delusion is not a virtue. It eventually runs people mad.

Gerhards:
What's indigenous name of Lagos before it was changed to Lagos and why Ibadan was not rename to Lisbon? some part of Lagos also belong to Ewes

Whatever makes you sleep. But know this and know pey. Lagos is Yoruba land.

Spandau:
Whatever makes you sleep. But know this and know pey. Lagos is Yoruba land.

Then keep deceiving yourself but kole work

NovusHomo:
These are 1891 figures. I guess they were still living on treetops, and walking naked Who knows. Just a guess. I come in peace.

This is why you people should read a book and stop regurgitating ignorannt talk points you see online.

By 1891 the Brits were yet to conquer the Igbo, and by the time they finally encountered and fought the Igbos for more than 14 years, the British had nothing but admiration for the Igbo people, they marveled at their battle tactics, strategy and indomitable spirit and resilience. The feats the Igbos accomplished against the British were not something a barbarians who live on treetops and walk naked could have accomplished.

GeneralOuki:
This is why you people should read a book and stop regurgitating ignorannt talk points you see online.

By 1891 the Brits were yet to conquer the Igbo, and by the time they finally encountered and fought the Igbos for more than 14 years, the British had nothing but admiration for the Igbo people, they marveled at their battle tactics, strategy and indomitable spirit and resilience. The feats the Igbos accomplished against the British were not something a barbarians who live on treetops and walk naked could have accomplished.

Spare me story by moonlight, tell are you sure say na normal eye you take talk say the British never engage in slave trade in the areas that are latter named Nigeria ?

Let's pick the discussion one after the other

SonOfDSoil01:
the busy body noise makers can’t even be found on the list yet they always claim to know the history of the indigenous Lagos people more than the aborigines themselves…..we don’t share traditions or customs nor do we share border but they make Lagos their lifetime problem, funny bunch of clowns with no documented history except for their Biafra war

That's because you failed as a history student. Had it been that you have read a little bit of history you would have known that every major ethnic groups in Nigeria has a documented history of their own, Both orally and written. But I don't blame you though, I blame the Nigerian education system which failed you.

GeneralOuki:
That's because you failed as a history student. Had it been that you have read a little bit of history you would have known that every major ethnic groups in Nigeria has a documented history of their own, Both orally and written. But I don't blame you though, I blame the Nigerian education system which failed you.

Was it the same teacher who taught Obi that tells you slave trade never happened in Nigeria?

Aworis you people claimed were the original owners of Lagos were just 9%. See how the census broke down different tribes ut these days one man from Oshogbo will claim omo lagosian and one woman from offa will claim omo lagosian. And all of them will claim to be yoruba

Nwaikpe:
No, sir. They never labelled anyone as that.

They had a caste system, and some fell in the lower caste.

The reason they weren't involved in that trade was simply because (never because they were more moral):
1. They never had anything like a centralized system of governance
2. They were receptive of the colonial culture and religion faster than anyone and second only to the Calabar. So, the white men saw them as equals first.

The whitemen did not just see them as equal, they were legit threatened by the speed at which they levelled up in such a short time and began to challenge them in certain aspects.

thatigboman:
Aworis you people claimed were the original owners of Lagos were just 9%. See how the census broke down different tribes ut these days one man from Oshogbo will claim omo lagosian and one woman from offa will claim omo lagosian. And all of them will claim to be yoruba

Keep shut Awori and Egun in the present day of Apapa, Amowo, Ojo, Alimosho,Badagry are grouped together with the Egun in the statistics. Because you see a separate 9% of Awori doesn't mean there are no others

Nwaikpe:
No, sir.
There were NEVER any people living in that area, sir.

Let's assume there were; two things would have happened: the Portuguese, who got there first and named it Lagos, would have respected the name of the place as in "Benin" or "Calabar," or would have cleared the place as in the case of the American Indians.

As I stated, no Yoruba nation is ever known to be riverine. Go through your history. Go through your artifacts. You will never see any evidence that linked the people to tools or means that helped them live or move around water bodies.

You can find it with the Calabar, Ibibio, Urhobo, etc. Check their history and view their historical artifacts.

So tell me the ancestral land of Eko people.

chatinent:
That means that the people who claim to own Lagos today are not even from Lagos!

That means the Igbos are not even part of Nigeria in the old days!

GeneralOuki:
The whitemen did not just see them as equal, they were legit threatened by the speed at which they levelled up in such a short time and began to challenge them in certain aspects.

This a thread about Lagos, you can do us a favour by opening a thread to eulogize how the white gave your people the best Isiagwu

Nwaikpe:
Meaning that no one owned the place.
Everyone came from their different places and claimed thes land since it became a thriving sea port.

Abi?

If you want ed. to know what ownership means, check the census of Oyo State in that year. Then you would discover that at that time, ALL COMMUNITIES were homogeneous.

No. All Yoruba cities have always been cosmopolitan or homogeneous. During the height of the rivalry between Ibadan and ijebu, an Ijebu man became the Olubadan. The king of Lagos Eko is descended from Baba Alagba an ijesa from Osun.

OredoPikin2:
lolz
who are the parents of Ashipa in Awori?
or Ashipa fell from the sky or trekked from saudi arabia like oduduwa lies u were told

just tell me the parent of Ashipa in Awori
and also tell me the name of the daughter of Oba of Benin he married
meanwhile, if you can or cant provide all these, know say u nor dey think.
una go just dey twist history as if the people u are talking to doesnt think like you.

in Benin i will not only tell you who Ashipa parents were, i will tell u the great grand father to the over 32 generations before him

Go-ahead and tell me the name of Ashipa's father.

Lukuluku69:
And where did they learn the Caste System from? Their Religion I would suppose. And I do hope you know what the Caste System entails? Lesser humans amongst humans due to birth privileges, ancestry etc.

And NO EUROPEANS of that time ever considered the Africans or any African as EQUAL, least of all a people still in their old haunts, almost half naked and living in thatched roofed mud houses!

You don't even know what the caste system (Osu) means or what it really is. It has nothing to do with lesser human but rather a dedicated people to the gods. Those people who fell under that caste system in the pre colonial era were feared and sometimes respected and avoided, they were not seen as lesser in anyway.
It is because of the advent of Christianity that the osu system began to be seen in such negative light ( children of the gods were now viewed as children of Satan ) but historically, it was a privileged position.

Our Nigeria education has failed us when it comes to pre colonial history of the people of Nigeria.

forgiveness:
Go-ahead and tell me the name of Ashipa's father.

Why are you asking an Igbo guy question about Bini, the guy has been bursted many times

AqualinaXYZ:
Now the real Eko Lagos indigenes no even reach 2%



Every south westerner has moved to claim Lagos



Not like they even have beautiful houses



They all live in face me I face u

Evidently you didn't even read the census results, the Oyo, Awori, Egún, Ijebu, É gba, ijesha, Ekiti etc are what you call yoruba today. The term yoruba is just a collective description of these people who trace their ancestry to Ife.

Spandau:
Delusion is not a virtue. It eventually runs people mad.

ok doctor.

GeneralOuki:
You don't even know what the caste system (Osu) means or what it really is. It has nothing to do with lesser human but rather a dedicated people to the gods. Those people who fell under that caste system in the pre colonial era were feared and sometimes respected and avoided, they were not seen as lesser in anyway.
It is because of the advent of Christianity that the osu system began to be seen in such negative light ( children of the gods were now viewed as children of Satan ) but historically, it was a privileged position.

Our Nigeria education has failed us when it comes to pre colonial history of the people of Nigeria.

Yeah, I don't mind going back to your school that taught you that slave trade never occurred in Nigeria

GeneralOuki:
You don't even know what the caste system (Osu) means or what it really is. It has nothing to do with lesser human but rather a dedicated people to the gods. Those people who fell under that caste system in the pre colonial era were feared and sometimes respected and avoided, they were not seen as lesser in anyway.
It is because of the advent of Christianity that the osu system began to be seen in such negative light ( children of the gods were now viewed as children of Satan ) but historically, it was a privileged position.

Our Nigeria education has failed us when it comes to pre colonial history of the people of Nigeria.

But they are outcasts and if you marry them you will be excommunicated from the community

Nazgul:
Did Nigerian exist in 1891?

What would an Igbo man be doing in Lagos around that time?

The Almaganation of Nigeria took place in 1914. Meaning no Igbo man had any business in yourba land before then.

Same thing a Hausa man and a Nupe man was doing there

Lukuluku69:
And where did they learn the Caste System from? Their Religion I would suppose. And I do hope you know what the Caste System entails? Lesser humans amongst humans due to birth privileges, ancestry etc.

And NO EUROPEANS of that time ever considered the Africans or any African as EQUAL, least of all a people still in their old haunts, almost half naked and living in thatched roofed mud houses!

oh and one more thing, the Europeans, especially the British during the colonial government began to be see the Igbo as equal due to how fast and quickly They levelled up in terms of culture and religion of the British. It got to the point that the Igbo and some south southerners began contesting for positions in the British colonial government and even replacing the Europeans in their quarters. It got to the point that Lugard complain about it.

You can read the journals of the British personels of that time if you are in doubt.

DMCA:
72.65% na Yoruba.

Where those people wey develop lagos?

The non "yoruba" in that census is less than 8% because even the Tapa Nupe had settled in old Oyo inter married and exchanged culture and language way before the 1200.
Even the word yoruba some contend is a Tapa word to describe the inhabitants of old Oyo, the Oshodi family of Lagos and many others across yoruba towns and cities are of Tapa lineage, many warriors who fought under the banner of yoruba kingdoms were Tapa they settled and some even brought their masqueraded that are part of the culture in the towns in which they settled.

omohayek:
Argument by bald assertion. Where is your evidence for such claims, that we should believe you over all the history books that are freely available?

You can make your ludicrous and dishonest claims as often as you like, but you'll never be regarded as anything more than a ethnic champion seeking to nurse a fragile ego by disseminating blatant propaganda. Your drivel belongs in the same revisionist rubbish-bin as the nonsense from those who claim Palestine was empty before the 19th century, or that South Africa was unsettled before the Boers came in the 17th century.

The most amusing thing about the persistent mendacity of characters like you is that even as you spend all this effort spewing lies about Lagos to soothe your egos, others of your kinsmen are noisily stating how they "don't give a f***" about the same Lagos you put so much energy into lying about. Why all the lying, if Lagos means so little to you people?

Can you factually disprove his argument or are you going to tow the line of petty insults as typical of you people? Because all he's said are historically accurate

GeneralOuki:
oh and one more thing, the Europeans, especially the British during the colonial government began to be see the Igbo as equal due to how fast and quickly They levelled up in terms of culture and religion of the British. It got to the point that the Igbo and some south southerners began contesting for positions in the British colonial government and even replacing the Europeans in their quarters. It got to the point that Lugard complain about it.

You can read the journals of the British personels of that time if you are in doubt.

Can you refer me to document that suggest save travel never happened in Nigeria,?

ademijuwonlo:
Yes but there were also Nupe and Hausa from the North in Lagos before amalgamation.

No disrespect, but some people say South Easterners were not really wearing clothes and that could have deterred them from mixing with their neighbours.

Yet the South East people mixed very well with their Ibibio, Erik and Annang neighbours.

Ojuntana:
You mean Lagos started to exist in 1891
I am surprised there are no Binis in Lagos but there are Hausas and Nupes

There are no indigenous Bini in Lagos but rather the royal lineage has some part Bini through marriage, other chieftaincy households may have same. The traditional head of Eko as it was then wgivj was mainly the island parts swore allegiance to the oba of Benin and paid tributes possibly for protection from the Ẹgba and Dahomey tribes.