₦airaland Forum

AndroBlaze:
For those who keep wondering why Yorubas who can trace their identity from other states carry Lagos matter "ontop their head", this is a scientific/historic lesson why, as you can clearly see they have outnumbered the people who now solely claim "Eko" for ages ( which again becomes clearer when you understand that Eko actually means "camp" )

Also, if you understood history, you will know that Ibadan is also another melting pot of Yorubas from everywhere.

There is also a misrepresentation of what Eko is and Lagos State is, for instance Lagos State stretched to current Ikorodu but that territory was not part of ancient Eko but they are Ijebu and Oyo people who settled that area, even areas up to what you call Mowe Ibafo, Ketu , OPIC up to the boundaries of Ikeja etc would have been all under Remo axis

Ttalk:
Can you refer me to document that suggest save travel never happened in Nigeria,?

I don't understand your question, can you rephrase it?

GeneralOuki:
That's because you failed as a history student. Had it been that you have read a little bit of history you would have known that every major ethnic groups in Nigeria has a documented history of their own, Both orally and written. But I don't blame you though, I blame the Nigerian education system which failed you.

yes NwOSU, Lagos as now been added to sad yeast as the 6th state….that’s why the governor is nnaemeka and the obi of Lagos is now nwachukwu……indeed you can’t shame the shameless😂😂😂😂

lawani:
But they are outcasts and if you marry them you will be excommunicated from the community

That's not true. The OSU were never outcasts, and marrying them doesn't lead to excommunication at least in pre colonial times. This whole rewriting of history came from the missionaries who tried to antagonise them for dedicating themselves to the gods. It is the same way that the missionaries changed Ekwensu from a respectable god in ìgbo cosmology to the Devil himself.

Gerhards:
Still does not make the place your own, what about the Hausas and other tribes on the Census even though it could be fake or manipulated

yes, NwOSU Lagos as now been added to sad yeast as the 6th state, and also the name of the governor now is nwachukwu and the obi of Lagos is now chukwudi…..mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂😂

Emeskhalifa:
What's this sponsored bs?

Deliberately omitted the Igbos or what's this?

The Yoruba and igbo are not co-related they don't share borders, had no trade relations and before the British Nigerian experiment did not even acknowledge any existence, to the king's in the SW anything past Owo was the domain of the king of Edo, even the yoruboid clans in Ode Itshekiri , Lukumí and the Asagba of Asaba don't acknowledge relations with the core Igbo areas of Enugu in historical treaties.

This is not insult but rather what is documented historical facts.

SonOfDSoil01:
yes NwOSU, Lagos as now been added to sad yeast as the 6th state….that’s why the governor is nnaemeka and the obi of Lagos is now nwachukwu……indeed you can’t shame the shameless😂😂😂😂

I can't make sense of this your incoherent drivel

MatrixCircle:
Because they was no Nigeria then, the South East was a country of its own then known as Republic of Biafra with strong economy and trade and no need to come to Lagos, until Nigeria was later created and that Biafran buoyant economy with Sapele and Rivers seaports were destroyed out of envy, their seaport was destroyed to favour Lagos. So they moved to Lagos to use the seaport to import and export their goods, and so doing there developed Lagos to what it is today.

There was no country or entity called Biafra, Ojukwu coined the name from the "Blight of Biafra" the Kalabari and Efik, Ibibio Ijaw etc tribes later subsumed by the SE region pre 1966 were never part Igbo ethnic group even worse there was no Igbo ethnic group before the British discovered a scattered group of tribes people devoid of any social structures.

The Igbo Ukwu artefacts further strengthen this assertion.

Ttalk:
Yeah, I don't mind going back to your school that taught you that slave trade never occurred in Nigeria

smh

MatrixCircle:
They was Port Harcourt seaport and the most vibrant one was that in Sapele .Sapele was like Lagos seaport of today. It was a very buoyant .

Every ibo importers were using Sapele in Delta state, until it was destroyed by Nigerian government to favour Lagos seaport. Import and Export was done in Sapele by most ibo businesses. That's the reason they moved to Lagos. No Sapele is the reason. They was Calabar seaport too.

Igbo were importing in 1891 importing what exactly. A people who didn't have any interactions with any other tribes other than the Edo, Kalabari Ijaw and ìgalà were importing goods !

What goods were being imported into the entity now called Nigeria in 1891 pls do tell.

Ttalk:
This a thread about Lagos, you can do us a favour by opening a thread to eulogize how the white gave your people the best Isiagwu

Go and read the journals of the British personels of that time. Find especially the one by Lugard himself

Ttalk:
Was it the same teacher who taught Obi that tells you slave trade never happened in Nigeria?

That's not what I said, learn to read and comprehend. And Why are you people always too vulgar and petty whenever you are losing an argument?

qtx:
Before una start to the fite unasef make una ask simple and smart questions: Were there STATiSENSES in 1891? there was no internet, no proper documentation, No Nigeria, no Southwest, no South East, no nothing. So why allow this so-called statistical portal confuse una?

The colonial office conducted a proper census you dey argue

SonOfDSoil01:
yes NwOSU, Lagos as now been added to sad yeast as the 6th state….that’s why the governor is nnaemeka and the obi of Lagos is now nwachukwu……indeed you can’t shame the shameless😂😂😂😂

Look at the way you are suffering severe pains, u sure say you fit chop with this kind of pains omo iya?

Ttalk:
Spare me story by moonlight, tell are you sure say na normal eye you take talk say the British never engage in slave trade in the areas that are latter named Nigeria ?

Let's pick the discussion one after the other

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Predictor3:
It clearly shows that Lagos has always been the home of all Yorubas irrespective of where you come from in Yoruba land. No wonder an osun man can be governor there.

Not just Lagos go to Ibadan and Ilesha you'll find that same diversity in the families that settled there and raised multiple generations. Ogbomosho was a settlement area granted to Oyo people fleeing conflict

Ttalk:
I won't engage half baked. It is not by force to dabble into subject you know nothing about.

People that entered ,Lagos 2019 are now telling us the story of Lagos

Was the Ọbá of Benin responsible for choosing us the Ọbá of Lagos or not?
Answer let me furnish you with historical facts!

ARISHEM:
The Yoruba wars especially the Kiriji wars at that time was what made indigenes from other south western states to migrate to Lagos.

You'll be running from kiriji and theb settle in Lagos very funny guy. Any towns that perished under kiriji conflict moved towards Ife or Ibadan saaki. Some moved temporarily.

Ttalk:
Seriously I should have known that I was chatting with people who believe Buhari died and was changed to El Jibrin of Sudan

At the bolded suggest you didn't study history as a subject otherwise won't claim the British interact with the Igbo first when they landed in the Niger area

The 1st Missionary school, first missionary cemetery, first story building, first this and first that can only be found in my state.

History tells us that Igbo were the last sets of people the British visited

Again, you immediately thought I was Igbo.


And I really don't know your level of comprehension, but what I am sure about is that I never mentioned the Igbos being the first to interact with the West. For your information, the first interaction of the West with Nigeria was with the Niger Delta. Particularly, Calabar. It was hundreds of years later that the Brits had any contact with Lagos. The Igbos may have been the last (according to you), but they were more intelligent and receptive than other people. That is why they could easily assimiliate into the culture of the colonials.

As I said, you listen too much to Reno Omokri.

Ttalk:
Stop sounding as if every words must be spelt out for you like a kindergarten before you can understand. Am referring to state University but you are tagging federal university, why didn't you add private university so you can sound more intelligent.

Eating your words can't help you, wise one.



In a state university, the students are forced to learn the history of the state?



That is exactly why the product of such system is speaking the way you do.

Ttalk:
Keep shut Awori and Egun in the present day of Apapa, Amowo, Ojo, Alimosho,Badagry are grouped together with the Egun in the statistics. Because you see a separate 9% of Awori doesn't mean there are no others

ojuelegba under underbridge statistician

ademijuwonlo:
Tell us where their so called Benin Prince (Ekalederhan) kpaid? Their Benin Prince died in Ughoton while Oduduwa died in Ile-Ife. The Benin Prince and Oduduwa are not the same person but the imagination of those who wants to rewrite history.

Abeg where oduduwa come from?
Who are his parents?

Knowing the map delineation will further provide context. Lagos as known then does not exceed Suurulere

Lukuluku69:
My focus is never on "them" as you submitted but rather a response to your claim about "them," which was being an equal to the Colonists are you claimed on their behalf with the colonists.

And since you want to let us focus on them why not answer my poser as to where they learn the Caste System from or was that also inherited from their equals from Europe since they were good in the usage of the Rosary and even attended University situated at village squares before anyone else does?

I don't need Reno or anyone else to tell me the Culture my forebears lived and no, I don't listen to him because he is an Ethnic jingoist and most of them just don't cut it with me.

So, pray tell me those places that are still going about unclothed in the North. I know of the Koma people in the northeast. Perhaps you research discovered another?

Lol

The Tuaregs conquered the Hausas in the 1800s. Really, really? I thought you guys said it was the Fulanis from Futa Jalon, the homestead of Uthaman Dan Fodio? In any case, the influence of the Mandikans from the Empires of the Mali Kingdom is the prevailing identity (largely) in those spaces. They lived in Cities, had school (outside what the Europeans brought to those you referred to as "them". I was once privileged to visit Kano Old City (the walled one popularly referred to as Cikin Geri and also Sokoto). You need to see their architecture. So distinct the blind can see it. So, Sir, it was not clothing of the desert people that were imposed on them. Those buildings still stand to date.

And no, sir, the British didn't see ALL that accepted Christianity as equals and I will take that as a joke from you and it is very funny.

These "them" of ours aren't they largely Catholic and not Anglican? That was a joke too I assume?

When the Europeans came to this shore, the Hausa/Fulani were fully kitted, same for the Yorubas and "them"? They tied wrappers while going Topless!

First, it is clear that I am speaking to Adamu:

I'll respect that.

1. I didn't mention ANY place that is going unclothed. You did. And if you did, that means it exists.
2. The caste system is a cultural system that was built through the culture of conquest that was rampant in all societies. You, Adamu, a descendant from the Hausa bakwai, or the banza bakwai, can never be an Emir. It had to take the intervention of the government to have the first non-Fulani as an emir in Kano. Now, where did the Fulani learn that caste system from?
3. ".... village squares" says someone from a place that literally had Chukwu as all their professors at Ahmadu Bello University, and the premier of the region had to weep and cry out loud that they would rather stay uneducated and professorless than to have a Chukwu as their professor. Ok, continue.
4. "...visit Kano Old City" you mean the Kano Old City that was built by the Fulani (Tuaregs) after the conquest? Or which one? If you want to see the typical architecture of the North, go along the Sokoto-Gusau axis and see their houses there. Up till today (2025), they still live in thatched huts. If you want to see the true dressing of the Hausas before the conquest of the North African raiders, go to Sculpture Garden, ABU. There was a sculpture there—I don't know if it has been removed—that clearly showed the picture of Queen Amina defending her people. It was just for decency; the strip of clothing used to cover the bresst and back was placed there. Even the Mali people, whom you claim conquered you, still majorly go unclothed. That is because they never did. Mali was a thriving empire, modern in its days. The conquerors were raiding Tauregs with connections with Senegal.
5. ...largely Catholic and not Anglican Well, due to your difference in rel!g!on, I will understand your !gnorance in the way it works. In Christianity, there is no contention between any denomination. It is one Christ, One Gospel, and One Faith. The Methodist from America got to some Areas before the Anglican, right under the colonialism of the Anglican Church. Same with teh Baptist, etc. How much more the Roman Catholic church? While people were battling themselves as whether they are sunn! or sh!a, we were finding no difference between gospel and faith. It was one Christ.
6. the Hausa/Fulani were fully kitted, same for the Yorubas and "them" Indeed. Can you refer to ANY one battlle between the brits and the North? Well, for your information, the only people who raised a resistance against the colonial masters and were tough on it were the Oyo Empire, the Benin Empire, and the Kingdom of Ibibio (Calabar kingdom). Those were the only ones that could do it because they had a place called a "kingdom or empire." That is a structured society of kings and administration. What you had in the north were emirates—organizations under the Fulani hegemony to coordinate the Hausa in the supply of Hausa s l @ v e s to the Arabs in the Chad basin and to organize for more conquest. It was totally commercial, and when the Brits came, they simply submitted themselves and the trade to the Brits. Shikenan. Kaman kai ma baka gane history'n ku ba.

MrSly:
So tell me the ancestral land of Eko people.

After 50 years, I will also ask you to tell me the ancestral land pf the Igbo people staying in Lagos.

OredoPikin2:
Abeg where oduduwa come from?
Who are his parents?

Where did Ekaladerhan (Benin Prince) came from and who were his parents?

lawani:
No. All Yoruba cities have always been cosmopolitan or homogeneous. During the height of the rivalry between Ibadan and ijebu, an Ijebu man became the Olubadan. The king of Lagos Eko is descended from Baba Alagba an ijesa from Osun.

The king of Lagos Eko

Something inside tells you that Lagos is a Yoruba word and that there was a king of Lagos.



The same way the Jews convereged on a barren land, developed it into a hub of growth, North Africans gathered around it, and declared that they always had a king there and their name is "palestinians" descendants of "phillistine" when all of them speak Arabic, and bear North African names.

SonOfDSoil01:
yes, NwOSU Lagos as now been added to sad yeast as the 6th state, and also the name of the governor now is nwachukwu and the obi of Lagos is now chukwudi…..mgbeke feeling funky 😂😂😂

Epain am well well, Lagos belong to all Nigerian, has nothing to do with Yorubas, kiss the truth

masterfactor:
The people that called LAGOS a no mans land was not even part of the Lagos right from inception. People from the south East has no history with people from the South West.

No history at all until they started coming in gradually to develop the region with huge markets... The indigenous people had no choice but to start selling their lands to create space for the developers