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femi4:
It goes beyond record keeping, it's worshipping them that stretches into weeks or months

It is a lie. They are dead and forever gone eternally. Dead bodies cannot intercede again. They are not different from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David etc.

erad:
Wetin concern you?

Whether you like it or not, Catholics are a major history of Christianity. Without the battles Catholicism fought, a lot of pentecostal churches today won't exist.

I don't care about any of you but learn to stop trying to make yourself look better than others, you're not God. Even the bible asks you not to judge, but nah una sabi Bible pass. Hypocrites.

I don't know why you are talking unreasonably. The writer simply stated what Catholics do that are not biblical. Instead of you to address the issues logically, you suddenly became mad talking rubbish and resulting to attack. Please, use your brain and wise up.

Almunjid:
I just asked Google this question, "When was Sol Invictus born?" and this is an excerpt or part of what Google provided: "The birth of the Roman god Sol Invictus was celebrated on December 25, 274 CE, when Emperor Aurelian established it as a formal feast day... The adoption of December 25 as the birthdate for Jesus is a subject of discussion, with some scholars suggesting it was chosen to coincide with the established pagan festival." This indicates that the celebration of Sol Invictus’s birthdate on December 25 was later shifted to commemorate the birth of Jesus after Christianity was adopted.

Regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses’ claims of 50,000 errors in the Bible, if you choose to disbelieve that, I respect your view. However, one thing is certain: Roman pagan doctrines have infiltrated Christianity. If that is undisputed, then it follows that the scriptures, having passed through many hands over time, may have been corrupted or misinterpreted.

From my own study, I have observed inconsistencies in the Bible—some of which have been corrected in newer Bible versions. For example, there is the issue with Jehoiachin’s age: 2 Kings 24:8 says he was 18 when he became king, but 2 Chronicles 36:9 states he was 8. Eight or eighteen? This is just one example among many. I believe these contradictory verses are human errors, not divine ones, but we cannot deny their existence.

I once debated a friend, saying: If the Holy Spirit is needed to understand and interpret the Bible, then what about those who translated it from Greek to English? Did they have the Holy Spirit? Consider how many errors might have been introduced in translation, and the number of doctrines that may have come from those misinterpretations. Much of what we know today—or perhaps all of it—is based on their understanding and interpretation. These translators were linguists, not necessarily biblical scholars. As Jeremiah 8:8 says: "How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie."


Peace!

You asked Google? How about you read books or studies by actual scholars on the subject? Google will give you a popular talking points but not actually scholarly research on most subjects. According to scholars who have researched on this sol invictus festival, it was never a one day celebration, it happened year round on different times, and it was not 25th until Christianity began to rise and get popular. The pagans themselves were the ones who moved it to 25th December to counter the influence of Christianity at that time. I myself have done extensive research on this subject in particular, and I have seen how some pagans tried to copy Christian worship and festival dates to counter it's influence and prevent proselytism, especially in the case of sol invictus, saturnalia, Mithras and Dionysius ( all pagan festivals that later adopted 25 December due to Christianity) .

Yes pagan practices, not just from Rome, have sipped into Christianity over time, but that doesn't mean that the scriptures were corrupted or influenced by these pagan practices. For instance you can read the entire of New testament and won't see a single pagan worship in it. So how come the New testament, the gospels are free of pagan influences but Morden Christian practices aren't?
The short answer is that Man will always deviate to man made traditions over time, man made traditions that consolidate "Power".

One of the things I usually encounter when I debate about the authenticity of the Bible is that most people don't understand what the bible really is, how it was compiled, how old some of the books are and in what form it existed ( and still exists) before it was compiled into the form that we know it today.

In the issue you raised about the record of Jehoiachin, let me begin by saying that not books in the old testament were divinely inspired. The books of kings (1 and 2) and chronicles, judges are just historical record books of the Hebrews. So there's expected to be inconsistencies in it, there would be embellishments of facts and errors as is expected from an ancient historical record books of an equally ancient people. You will find all these in the historical records of the Sumerians, The Greeks, Egyptians, Akkadians, Chinese, Assyrians etc.

And also , the old testament books as you know it has been existing in that form before the birth of Jesus in 4th AD as the Hebrew manuscripts or Tanakh. The old testament is literally the a direct copy of the Tanakh but with some books rearranged. So the church can not change or corrupt the books of the Old testament because the original document is still very much in existence and easily acquired if you want to get a copy. The Tanakh/ old testament is just Judaism, you give a Jewish practitioner a copy of the Old testament and apart from the rearrangement of some books, he/she will find nothing amiss except for mistranslation of words or names to English or anglicised Latin, but the core subjects still remains as it is.

Those who translated the books of the bible from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek were linguistics under the supervision of scholars. The oldest new testament parchment dated around 100-125CE is still on display in Manchester at the John Rayland library. The oldest complete copy of the New Testament is the Codex Sinaiticus, a 4th-century Greek Bible manuscript that dates to the mid-fourth century which is still in display at the Sinai monastery, there's another one of similar age is the Codex vaticanus . These works were originally written in Greek not some ancient language that may have gone extinct and difficult to transcribe, whatever errors — if at all there's any — is not a doctrinal altering errors.

I think that the notion that one needs the holy spirit to be able to interpret the contents of the bible is nons£ns£ though. This all was started by the church in the medieval period when they wanted to prevent people from finding out the contents of the bible, because they feared that gaining knowledge of what's written in the book would expose some of the fake doctrines which the church used in accumulating power to themselves and holding down the people. The church burned anyone who was found with the copy of the bible during those dark ages, it was the invention of the printing press that broke the church's monopoly on bible ownership and knowledge of its contents. Give no ear to anyone who tells you that you need the holy spirit to interpret the bible.

Check the gospels very well.peter played quite a role in the early congregation,.. preaching to the crowds who became christians at pentecost,was used to open the way for the gentiles to become christians (starting with Cornelius and his household),..but that at best didn't make Peter the head of the church back then.when issues arose as seen from the book of Acts,it was the elders in Jerusalem of which Peter,Paul and the other apostles were a part of that body that sat together and with the help of the holy spirit they got a direction of what to do.if there was anyone giving directions to the congregations then under the approval of the elders in Jerusalem,then we can even say it should be the apostle Paul and not Peter,cos even Paul had to at a point correct Peter for some erroneous views Peter was having,but Paul never ever viewed himself as an oga in the church...There should be those leading the church,but as in the first century,it should be a body of elders and not one man .power corrupts .that's why Jesus told his disciples that no one should claim leader,father or master. Anything outside the Bible's teaching to me is a no go my brother.

Olufhemy:
Thanks bro,
On issue 9,
You appear not to understand that the name POPE is a product of NOMENCLATURE.
No one has said the Bible called it POPE, but the Church called it POPE and every pope is to lead the church to Christ. Or do you suggest that after PETER, the church should have no leader?
Or are you suggesting that PETER was not appointed the first leader of the Christian Community?

The headship of Peter, when Christ rose from the dead, the first disciple to get to the tomb did not go in until Peter got there. At Pentecost, who addressed?
Or are you suggesting that there should be no leadership in Christianity?
How about the title G.O?
Thanks

dofman:
It is too late for you to deny your Christianity oo.

😀😀 you are both Christian nah and you are together .

No be you be this ? Ahaaa

Na you in Islam and dem be the same

btoks:
As you laugh, it may be worth remembering that the bible itself was canonised through same tradition you mock.

You like innuendos too much

They tell you Bible was canonized to a tradition, you believe, it's non of my business, cos it has no relevance to my relationship with Jesus Christ my saviour

But


Na crk you study abi na seminary you dey?

GeneralOuki:
You asked Google? How about you read books or studies by actual scholars on the subject? Google will give you a popular talking points but not actually scholarly research on most subjects. According to scholars who have researched on this sol invictus festival, it was never a one day celebration, it happened year round on different times, and it was not 25th until Christianity began to rise and get popular. The pagans themselves were the ones who moved it to 25th December to counter the influence of Christianity at that time. I myself have done extensive research on this subject in particular, and I have seen how some pagans tried to copy Christian worship and festival dates to counter it's influence and prevent proselytism, especially in the case of sol invictus, saturnalia, Mithras and Dionysius ( all pagan festivals that later adopted 25 December due to Christianity) .

Yes pagan practices, not just from Rome, have sipped into Christianity over time, but that doesn't mean that the scriptures were corrupted or influenced by these pagan practices. For instance you can read the entire of New testament and won't see a single pagan worship in it. So how come the New testament, the gospels are free of pagan influences but Morden Christian practices aren't?
The short answer is that Man will always deviate to man made traditions over time, man made traditions that consolidate "Power".

One of the things I usually encounter when I debate about the authenticity of the Bible is that most people don't understand what the bible really is, how it was compiled, how old some of the books are and in what form it existed ( and still exists) before it was compiled into the form that we know it today.

In the issue you raised about the record of Jehoiachin, let me begin by saying that not books in the old testament were divinely inspired. The books of kings (1 and 2) and chronicles, judges are just historical record books of the Hebrews. So there's expected to be inconsistencies in it, there would be embellishments of facts and errors as is expected from an ancient historical record books of an equally ancient people. You will find all these in the historical records of the Sumerians, The Greeks, Egyptians, Akkadians, Chinese, Assyrians etc.

And also , the old testament books as you know it has been existing in that form before the birth of Jesus in 4th AD as the Hebrew manuscripts or Tanakh. The old testament is literally the a direct copy of the Tanakh but with some books rearranged. So the church can not change or corrupt the books of the Old testament because the original document is still very much in existence and easily acquired if you want to get a copy. The Tanakh/ old testament is just Judaism, you give a Jewish practitioner a copy of the Old testament and apart from the rearrangement of some books, he/she will find nothing amiss except for mistranslation of words or names to English or anglicised Latin, but the core subjects still remains as it is.

Those who translated the books of the bible from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek were linguistics under the supervision of scholars. The oldest new testament parchment dated around 100-125CE is still on display in Manchester at the John Rayland library. The oldest complete copy of the New Testament is the Codex Sinaiticus, a 4th-century Greek Bible manuscript that dates to the mid-fourth century which is still in display at the Sinai monastery, there's another one of similar age is the Codex vaticanus . These works were originally written in Greek not some ancient language that may have gone extinct and difficult to transcribe, whatever errors — if at all there's any — is not a doctrinal altering errors.

I think that the notion that one needs the holy spirit to be able to interpret the contents of the bible is nons£ns£ though. This all was started by the church in the medieval period when they wanted to prevent people from finding out the contents of the bible, because they feared that gaining knowledge of what's written in the book would expose some of the fake doctrines which the church used in accumulating power to themselves and holding down the people. The church burned anyone who was found with the copy of the bible during those dark ages, it was the invention of the printing press that broke the church's monopoly on bible ownership and knowledge of its contents. Give no ear to anyone who tells you that you need the holy spirit to interpret the bible.

Regarding the use of Google, I recognize that Google is not an authoritative source for religious knowledge. However, it can provide references and reveal popular opinions on certain topics. If Google indicates that December 25 was originally celebrated as the birth of the Roman god Sol Invictus and was later adopted as the date for Jesus’s birth by Christians, it means the majority of sources suggest this. Your perspective—that all pagan festivals eventually adopted December 25 due to Christian influence—may be in the minority. I tend to follow the majority view presented by Google, but it is also valuable to be aware of differing opinions like yours.

At no point did I claim that paganism has crept into the Bible itself; rather, I stated that it has entered Christianity—a point you agreed with. Idol worship is not present anywhere in the Bible, but more than two-third of Christians today act no differently than idol worshippers. A Jew once remarked in a YouTube video that, despite the conflicts between Jews and Muslims, if given a choice, he would rather pray in a mosque than in a church, because Jews see Christians as idol worshippers and consider their places of worship as sites of idolatry. This is why I argue that Christianity needs reform, although it is unfortunate that many Christians are more interested in miracles and wonders than in the true teachings of Jesus, making them susceptible to today’s so-called Men of God (Pastorpreneurs).

You initially objected to the idea that there are errors in the Bible, let alone the 50,000 claimed by Jehovah’s Witnesses. However, you later admitted that “not all books in the Old Testament were divinely inspired,” and that some portions are historical records that might contain errors. Can you specify which books in the Bible are not historical accounts or at least do not include any historical content? In reality, history and divine revelation are interwoven throughout, from Genesis to Revelation. Which book of the Bible contains God’s words exclusively, untainted by history? Errors, therefore, are scattered throughout the text. I dislike incoherence in statements, such as the inconsistency you have shown, unless this change in stance results from recognizing the discrepancy I pointed out about Jehoiachin’s age when he became king.

Concerning the Bible’s translators, I agree with you that they were both linguists and scholars. William Tyndale, for example, was a priest, scholar, and linguist who translated the New Testament directly from Greek and Hebrew into English. John Wycliffe is often credited with the first complete English translation, along with his followers in the 1380s. The 54 scholars who produced the King James Version in 1611 were also both linguists and Bible scholars. However, you seem to underestimate the scale of errors that could have arisen during translation and the number of doctrines that may have resulted from such mistranslations, especially as most versions in other local languages were translated from earlier translations. Every mistranslated word can change the meaning of a passage and lead readers to different interpretations. Without a universally recognized book of exegesis, every pastor is free to provide whatever interpretation suits them.

What is your view on Jeremiah 8:8, which suggests that the holy book or laws may have been altered by unfaithful scribes? Do you accept this verse at face value? If so, it implies that errors have indeed found their way into the Bible and have significantly impacted God’s word and law. Or do you prefer to seek an alternative interpretation to avoid the verse’s apparent meaning?

This is the first time I have encountered a Christian who does not believe that the Holy Spirit is necessary to understand the Bible. However, this view is not consistent with the Bible, which explicitly states that the Holy Spirit aids in understanding scripture. For instance, John 14:26 says: “But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” This verse emphasizes the Holy Spirit’s role in teaching and in helping believers remember Jesus's teachings. Another relevant verse is John 16:13: “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth.” Some Muslim scholars believe that these verses—and others—are prophetic references to Muhammad (sometimes identified as the “Spirit of Truth”), whom they believe brought teachings similar to those of Jesus, but in greater detail. Perhaps you have your own interpretation, just as many Christians do.


Salam!

DOD88:
It is a lie. They are dead and forever gone eternally. Dead bodies cannot intercede again. They are not different from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David etc.

They won't agree with you

Zocalite:
You like innuendos too much

They tell you Bible was canonized to a tradition, you believe, it's non of my business, cos it has no relevance to my relationship with Jesus Christ my saviour

But

What if a Hindu man said the same thing about their own personal relationship with their god, saying they don’t care what anyone else believes? How would you respond to that?

Why do you trust the bible in the first place as it didn't drop out of the sky. How do you even know why Hebrews, Mark, Matthew, Luke with anonymous authors are part of the bible?

Na crk you study abi na seminary you dey?

Lol, let's just say crk was a good start back in the day.

Ezyp:
But pentecostals can ask their pastor to pray for them? I am confused here.

If you can ask/run to your pastor to pray for you, does than mean you pray to your pastor? If that's the case then why critize Catholics for doing same?

Your next argument would probably be she is dead and gone but the pastor is still alive on earth (well.....let's leave that for another topic to discuss).

Please sir, kindly clear my confusion. Thanks.

First, this is a Tu quoque fallacy..

Secondly, this means that you admit the issue that you guys are guilty of praying to Mary but that the Pentecostals are guilty of it also which is not the issue.

However, no one accuses the Pentecostals of doing it because it is within unnoticeable limits most especially as they mostly do so to a living person as you said.

But, you people pray chanting excessively to a dead person just like ifa pagans do and everywhere in the whole world, you people are accused of it.

Dtruthspeaker:
First, this is a Tu quoque fallacy..

Secondly, this means that you admit the issue that you guys are guilty of praying to Mary but that the Pentecostals are guilty of it also which is not the issue.

However, no one accuses the Pentecostals of doing it because it is within unnoticeable limits most especially as they mostly do so to a living person as you said.

But, you people pray chanting excessively to a dead person just like ifa pagans do and everywhere in the whole world, you people are accused of it.

Okay ... But to clarify, I never in my previous message agreed that Catholics pray to Mary. Catholics don't. They only ask her to pray for us. It is clearly said in the rosary.

In my statement I used the word IF since you were trying to mis-interprete what Catholics do. Please read to understand and not argue.

You wrote that Catholics pray to dead Mary. Just to clarify, you are wrong in that statement. She is not a dead person. Can you really prove it?

Your excuse is that since so many people critize the Catholics so it is valid that what the Catholics are doing are wrong, and since less or no one critize the pentecostals, then what the pentecostals are doing is right.. This your statement shows you are not matured for this kind of discussion (please no offense here).

During the crucifixion of Jesus, almost everyone was against him. Does that mean that what he was doing was wrong since majority were against him?

Catholics don't pray to Mary. Please understand this. Catholics pray to God the father in heaven.

Just for your information, Catholics view Mary as a faithful servant of God who played a crucial role in salvation history. They honor her as the Mother of God and a model of faith and obedience, but they do not worship her; worship is reserved for God alone.

Ezyp:
Okay ... But to clarify, I never in my previous message agreed that Catholics pray to Mary. Catholics don't. They only ask her to pray for us. It is clearly said in the rosary.

You don't have to say "I admit" before an admission is made exactly how you catch your girlfriend when she went out with another guy and she tried denying it.

And like your cheating girlfriend, your denying it just makes it worse as your "novena prayer to mary" proves that you are Lying.

Ezyp:
In my statement I used the word IF since you were trying to mis-interprete what Catholics do. Please read to understand and not argue.

The "if" was completely irrelevant as we all know that people ask other people to pray to pray for them. So nothing here.

Ezyp:
You wrote that Catholics pray to dead Mary. Just to clarify, you wrong in that statement. She is not a dead person. Can you really prove it?

Another off point argument. But I could raise a thread on it just to see how you would hold.

Ezyp:
Your excuse is that since so many people critize the Catholics so it is valid that what the Catholics do is wrong and since less or no one critize the pentecostals, they what the pentecostals are doing is right.This your statement shows you are matured for this kind of discussion (please no offense here).

No where did I say that and you got the point was that like Muslims are recognised and called out by the world for terrorism, so also are you Catholics recognised and called out for your idolatry of Mary.

So thrash the emotional blackmail.

Ezyp:
During the crucifixion of Jesus, almost everyone was against him. Does that mean that what he was doing was wrong since majority were against him?

Since back then till tomorrow did anyone accuse Jesus of doing wrong? No.

You yourself know that this makes no sense. And besides this is Off Point, so leave it.

Ezyp:
Catholics don't pray to Mary. Please understand this. Catholics pray to God the father in heaven.

Just for your information, Catholics view Mary as a faithful servant of God who played a crucial role in salvation history. They honor her as the Mother of God and a model of faith and obedience, but they do not worship her; worship is reserved for God alone.

Your rosary prayers chantings and your "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest, prove you are worshipping her exactly how the Romans worshipped the idol Juno.

Dtruthspeaker:
You don't have to say "I admit" before an admission is made exactly how you catch your girlfriend when she went out with another guy and she tried denying it.

And like your cheating girlfriend, your denying it just makes it worse as your "novena prayer to mary" proves that you are Lying.



The "if" was completely irrelevant as we all know that people ask other people to pray to pray for them. So nothing here.



Another off point argument. But I could raise a thread on it just to see how you would hold.



No where did I say that and you got the point was that like Muslims are recognised and called out by the world for terrorism, so also are you Catholics recognised and called out for your idolatry of Mary.

So thrash the emotional blackmail.



Since back then till tomorrow did anyone accuse Jesus of doing wrong? No.

You yourself know that this makes no sense. And besides this is Off Point, so leave it.



Your rosary prayers chantings and your "Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail our life, our sweetness, and our hope" and the rest, prove you are worshipping her exactly how the Romans worshipped the idol Juno.

Bro no offense again but it seems you can't comprehend simple sentences I wrote and it's boring.

If you say Catholics worship Mary then no problem. It's okay. We know what we are doing and we like am like that. If you have a problem with that, then that's your problem to deal with.

Even after I have clearly informed you Catholics don't but you've chosen to think otherwise, then that's fine. I won't waste your time and mine.

But if you look deeply into the Hail Holy Queen prayer you brought, you will see we are not worshipping Mary. Oh I forgot, you probably can't comprehend the prayer. You can ask chatgpt to break it down for you

That prayer is purely an intersection prayer. You just keep bringing baseless points and it's boring.

AntiisIam:
Na you in Islam and dem be the same

Even chat gpt will lecture you on that Kaaba 🕋 image .

Meanwhile , no be your god be this ? 😀

DOD88:
I don't know why you are talking unreasonably. The writer simply stated what Catholics do that are not biblical. Instead of you to address the issues logically, you suddenly became mad talking rubbish and resulting to attack. Please, use your brain and wise up.

You're dumb.

I have nothing to address there because it's not my business and it's not his or yours as well. Virtually every church has one or two things in their doctrines that are not biblical. Mind your church and let others mind theirs. This stupid act of trying to bad mouth a church so you can uplift yours makes no sense. Yet tomorrow you wonder why Christianity is so divided, it's because of nonsense like this. Are those practicing it complaining? If you're a catholic and have a problem with it, go to another church.

See stupid talk, I should address it. Am I the pope? I'm not even a catholic and if I were, I'd rather just change churches than waste my time over things I have no control over. I have much more productive things to use my time for. This internet gives a lot of you one false believe that you have one power somewhere but you're all just losers and cowards hiding behind a phone thinking how others choose to do their things is your business. NEWS FLASH! IT'S NOT!

Get a life!

Ezyp:
Bro no offense again but it seems you can't comprehend simple sentences I wrote and it's boring.

If you say Catholics worship Mary then no problem. It's okay. We know what we are doing and we like am like that. If you have a problem with that, then that's your problem to deal with.

Even after I have clearly informed you Catholics don't but you've chosen to think otherwise, then that's fine. I won't waste your time and mine.

But if you look deeply into the Hail Holy Queen prayer you brought, you will see we are not worshipping Mary. Oh I forgot, you probably can't comprehend the prayer. You can ask chatgpt to break it down for you

That prayer is purely an intersection prayer. You just keep bringing baseless points and it's boring.

You have fired the shots you want to fire and I know you still want to fire more but you are trying to hold yourself and I thank you for it

However, the issue is settled for action speaks louder than words and the whole world has seen both your actions and words.

So carry on with your traditions we all would see how God would judge it.

doffman:
Even chat gpt will lecture you on that Kaaba 🕋 image .

Meanwhile , no be your god be this ? 😀

That's dem, meanwhile this is you in mecca. Oya kini difference gbogbo yin

AntiisIam:
That's dem, meanwhile this is you in mecca. Oya kini difference gbogbo yin

❤️Nice hajj image . Your opinion no hold water .

Was this not your people ? 😀😀

Confirmed image. Ahaaaa

doffman:
❤️Nice hajj image . Your opinion no hold water .

Was this not your people ? 😀😀

Confirmed image. Ahaaaa

I don tell you say you and dem are the same, sebi you see what those you're posting their image are good at? While yours na kaaba, theirs na statue

AntiisIam:
I don tell you say you and dem are the same, sebi you see what those you're posting their image are good at? While yours na kaaba, theirs na statue

It is too late for you to deny your Christianity 😀

No be you among these people ? 😀


You don cast ahaaa

doffman:
It is too late for you to deny your Christianity 😀

No be you among these people ? 😀


You don cast ahaaa

I laugh at you Sule. I no dey kiss, bow, worship, for statue or Kaaba as una dey do

AntiisIam:
I laugh at you Sule. I no dey kiss, bow, worship, for statue or Kaaba as una dey do

Thank you for sharing 🕋 image seh . Your opinion no hold water .

You can never deny your religion. O

I repeat , no be you among these people 😀:

doffman:
Thank you for sharing 🕋 image seh . Your opinion no hold water .

You can never deny your religion. O

I repeat , no be you among these people 😀:

Na the same way una dey do in Islam dey are also doing

Antiislaam:
Na the same way una dey do in Islam dey are also doing

Nice 🕋 image 💕💕 Thank for sharing 😀


No be your god be this 😀

doffman:
Nice 🕋 image 💕💕 Thank for sharing 😀


No be your god be this 😀

Sule, when are you going to mecca to do the same?

AntiisIam:
Sule, when are you going to mecca to do the same?

Ani seh, thank you for Kaaba image ❤️


No be you here creating your own god ? 😀😀😀

doffman:
Ani seh, thank you for Kaaba image ❤️


No be you here creating your own god ? 😀😀😀

Sule, na still dem you're showing up and down

AntiisIam:
Sule, na still dem you're showing up and down

Are you not among them here ? 😀😀

doffman:
Are you not among them here ? 😀😀

We pray to Jesus Christ because he is alive and not a statue. Anyone doing that in your second picture is not different from your Muslims, mi ti so eleyi fun e

Antiislaam:
We pray to Jesus Christ because he is alive and not a statue. Anyone doing that in your second picture is not different from your Muslims, mi ti so eleyi fun e

Which god ?


😀😀😀😀😀 you mean your god that cried loudly when that 6 inches hold him .

You can deny your dead 💀 god oo

Tie ti finish seh