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dahmie2013:
So you're still living in a fools paradise. Go to the labour market and let's see how your "genius" 2:2 graduate gets a Job.

Lets Stop arguing please what he said is fact

CodeTemplarr:
https://www.nairaland.com/7902421/degree-sale-sting-operation-exposes

You are right because even if public schools award a degree in six days, they are always the best and miles ahead. Go through the above link.

Moumou talk...

ariesbull:
Federal University, my neighbour has a first class from a private university... Dude can't even write a simple formal letter ! And he had first class


In federal University .... To even get a first class no easy

Which school did he graduate from? No wherre in the most corrupt part of Nigeria will you be a dullard and graduate with a first class even if your father owned adeleke university and you are davido. Stop capping!

Helinuse:
You obviously don’t know what a university is.

For you to think that some HR somewhere will overlook a UI, UNN, ABU, OAU graduate for a covenant university, means that you don’t even know what the corporate world is.

Except if you are talking about about those LinkedIn “corporate” one apartment company in Lekki or Ikeja who are referring to themselves as “startups” simply because they have some money from their parent to spend.

Go and tell Shell, Chevron, UAC, or Professors Abroad seeking for PhD Students, that you are from covenant and watch them take you for a joke.

Haha my friend will not sleep after seeing this, covenant of all the bragging

It is foolishness for anyone to say that public universities are better than private universities in Nigeria.What is the yardstick for measuring their value,what contribution has public universities made to knowledge. What has any Public University invented that is useful for human existence absolutely nothing. Public universities spends about ten months at home due to strikes. There are no patent from any public universities, no research and innovations. In conclusion public universities are not better. The lecturers in private universities are drawn from public universities.

CodeTemplarr:
https://www.nairaland.com/7902421/degree-sale-sting-operation-exposes

You are right because even if public schools award a degree in six days, they are always the best and miles ahead. Go through the above link.

ARISHEM:
If you in Nigeria and you have the money I will advise you take your children to a private university

Are you minding them, it is because the cannot afford the private universities. Who in his right senses will send his ward to public university when you have the likes of covenant, babcock and others? We that even went o public universities in the 90s when country was still good, we know what we saw, imagine the state it will be now many years later, abi will you say naija has been improving and not deteriorating?
Oga truth of the matter non of my kids can go to those jungles called public university, even university of ibadan I attended, which is more sane compared to others, my kids will not go, infact in jamb application they do not fill in public universities.
If you cannot afford foreign education, or can, but insist 1st degree is done in naija, atleast put your kids in a sane environment.

Oga! Check the top 10 University in Nigeria, that should give you the answers you seek.

Helinuse:
You obviously don’t know what a university is.

For you to think that some HR somewhere will overlook a UI, UNN, ABU, OAU graduate for a covenant university, means that you don’t even know what the corporate world is.

Except if you are talking about about those LinkedIn “corporate” one apartment company in Lekki or Ikeja who are referring to themselves as “startups” simply because they have some money from their parent to spend.

Go and tell Shell, Chevron, UAC, or Professors Abroad seeking for PhD Students, that you are from covenant and watch them take you for a joke.

Don't be delusional, public and private universities graduates should be given equal opportunity to show their capacity and IQ.Your post has only displayed low IQ and lack of understanding. Abroad is not the name of the school you attended in Nigeria that they look at it is your capacity, work and contribution to knowledge. The only way to compare universities in Nigeria is to call for innovations, academic works,intellectual contribution to knowledge, patents from all the schools.

Helinuse:
You obviously don’t know what a university is.

For you to think that some HR somewhere will overlook a UI, UNN, ABU, OAU graduate for a covenant university, means that you don’t even know what the corporate world is.

Except if you are talking about about those LinkedIn “corporate” one apartment company in Lekki or Ikeja who are referring to themselves as “startups” simply because they have some money from their parent to spend.

Go and tell Shell, Chevron, UAC, or Professors Abroad seeking for PhD Students, that you are from covenant and watch them take you for a joke.

University ranking data can settle this argument. Go check where each of these unis stand.

PepeXKermit:
Which school did he graduate from? No wherre in the most corrupt part of Nigeria will you be a dullard and graduate with a first class even if your father owned adeleke university and you are davido. Stop capping!

well you can argue ! The School is a missionary school..I even personally found the guy a job at Omole via my friend dude can't even do the simplest task of Transcription

But ...you can argue or free to doubt me ....I don't care

samuelson06:
University ranking data can settle this argument. Go check where each of these unis stand.

The most sold car in Nigeria is Toyota that doesn't make Toyota the best car to drive in Nigeria

Based on ranking

Helinuse:
The very fact that you employed based on “University” name tells very much what you mean by “oil and gas company.”

Just any gathering of smugs with connections to a manager in NNPC or a retired shell engineer, refers to themselves as oil company.

See the mouth.

oil company, oil and gas company , energy company

i just looked at your level of mental coherence and dropped the one you are most likely to understand

sammirano2:
First class in any private uni is equivalent to 2.2 In a top Fed uni.

You people should stop this nonsense comparison already. The above has been voided over and over.

Being made to unnecessarily suffer to get a good grade is not a mark of quality.

ariesbull:
well you can argue ! The School is a missionary school..I even personally found the guy a job at Omole via my friend dude can't even do the simplest task of Transcription

But ...you can argue or free to doubt me ....I don't care

oga i ask you simple question and you dey foam for mouth...how can you find a job for someone who does not know how to write a formal letter and do a transcription? will that not be a dent on your name?

sammirano2:
First class in any private uni is equivalent to 2.2 In a top Fed uni.

Lies!!!!

It depends on the school!

Some private are very good!

PepeXKermit:
oga i ask you simple question and you dey foam for mouth...how can you find a job for someone who does not know how to write a formal letter and do a transcription? will that not be a dent on your name?

keep arguing ...up and down !

I didn't know he didn't know these basics ... Until I gave him letter of recommendation! It's unfortunate that it turned out like that and this is a first class student in so called private university!

But there was a caveat ab initio.... You are free to argue !

But please, your punctuation is terrible ! I know you are a product of private university, but please use commas, question marks and use "I" for describing yourself not "i"


Oya blame typographical errors!

Once again you are free to argue !

festacman:
Private universities offers nothing wonderful apart from big tuition that most Nigerians use to differentiate themselves class-wise like "I better pass my neighbour" mentality.

Most painful thing is that private universities have made young Nigerians docile by discouraging the spirit of aluta that functional SUG plant in students as they pass through the University. Now, to protest against government policies na hard work.

Covenant University remains the best institution in Nigeria.
There graduate are doing fine.

Products of federal Universities are still ahead of those from private universities, the only advantage in a private university is no strike and cult related issues .
Not that there aren't cult societies in private universities but they don't cause havoc.

grandstar:
Overseas, getting first class isn't hard.

It is because the public universities are not hungry for students. If the federal government stops funding and they charge the full value of a degree, they may be less stingy with giving out First Class.

Getting First Class is hard anywhere. Quote me daily, and twice when you get one.

Let me try to offer my opinion as a stakeholder in both public and private universities. I studied in a Public University. One of my children is in a public university and the other in a private university. Some of my postgraduate students also graduated from private universities.

Each university whether private or public has its advantages and disadvantages. Also, there are different categories of each University whether public or private. A lot depends on the student. For first generation federal universities, admission is really competitive, and they get the top students for competitive courses, so this affects their quality even for the unfortunate ones that graduate with a 2.2 despite their brilliance. Top private universities are now attracting brilliant students especially for the ones that their parents can afford it and don't whant them to suffer from the delays of ASUU strike and other challenges that students of public universities face.

The top public universities still have very experienced lecturers that graduated from top schools both within and outside the country. While we still have dedicated ones, some are not so dedicated. Some use only 2 or 3 weeks to teach an entire course that should last for 14 weeks and tailor their lectures to exam questions. Other malpractices like bribery and sex for grades are now common. However, the level of staff supervision is higher in private universities compared to public universities. It is very difficult to sack a staff in public universities as several panels need to be setup and presenting the reports to Senate and Council. The staff can still take the university to court and in some cases staff that were sacked later won their cases in court. But in a private university, it is easy to sack a lecturer that misbehaves or refuses to do his job. So top lecturers in public universities do not want to work in Private Universities where they will be micromanaged. They rather prefer to be Adjunct lecturers to private universities.


Public universities still have the biggest infrastructure due to support from Government, TETFUND, NITDA, NNPC, CBN, Grants from foreign countries particularly the United States, the corporate world and their Alumni. It's difficult for private universities to get that kind of financial support. Although maintenance of these facilities has become a big issue. Many students pass through Federal Universities without taking advantage of some of these facilities.

Many of the public universities are overpopulated. Some Federal Universities have up to 50,000 students. The staff: students' ratio is very low. As an undergraduate many years ago, we were 120 in class, and we did General Courses in the Faculty of Engineering where one lecturer taught over 700 students without a public address system. Our grades suffered seriously as only those seated in front could hear the lecturers and understood the courses. It is a serious disadvantage that affects students in many public universities. Whereas, in private universities the staff students' ratio is satisfactory as the class sizes are not too much. In recent times, there has been increase in the population of students in some private universities, but they have a good sound system and a better management of student population.


Many hostels in public universities are in dilapidated shapes with toilets being an eye sore. I often calculated going to toilet immediately the cleaners finished washing the toilets. But the hostels are better managed in private universities.

Also, students who are unable to manage their newfound freedom in public universities, engage in delinquent activities such as prostitution, abortions, drugs, Yahoo Yahoo, and many heart breaks due to the excessive freedom which they enjoy. Some girls practically live with their boy friends all through their undergraduate years who eventually ditches them after graduation. Whereas, in private universities, there are some forms of regulation. These misdemeanors still happen in private universities, but it is not as rampant as public universities.

In terms of products, I have taught both private and public university students at postgraduate level. A lot depends on the individual. Some private university graduates did amazingly well equally as some public university graduates. Only very few of the private university graduates did poorly. While some public university graduates also did poorly. That is why I said a lot depends on the student. For technology courses, the limitations in terms of practical exposure were common to both groups but more with the public universities. The internet is a leveler today; students should take advantage of the resources available on the internet to improve themselves.

ariesbull:
keep arguing ...up and down !

I didn't know he didn't know these basics ... Until I gave him letter of recommendation! It's unfortunate that it turned out like that and this is a first class student in so called private university!

But there was a caveat ab initio.... You are free to argue !

But please, your punctuation is terrible ! I know you are a product of private university, but please use commas, question marks and use "I" for describing yourself not "i"


Oya blame typographical errors!

Once again you are free to argue !

I am not here to punctuate in perfect English manner. this is a social forum and not an academic setting. I am typing with my phone in a high speed manner and I do not have to prove to you my level of intelligence by the way i type.. You are a typical case of if there is nothing more to attack, go for personal attacks or their "way of expression" ...

Like I said, you are capping. Even in the most corrupt institution in Nigeria, there is nobody who will come out as the best of the flock when they actually do not deserve it. Stop capping.

Kewtt:
Then you must know Professor Agbede....he practically built Babcock University's law programme. Public universities have a lot of problems with accountability of the personnel, which impacts the learning process of the students. No doubt we have excellent and some vastly experienced personnel in the public universities. But truth be told it's like comparing public primary and secondary schools with the private primary and secondary schools.... The difference is vast and multidimensional.

The government is NOT ready to fund education. The private cannot fund like the government but they have far better management of the available resources.

The real currency here is the time of the learners. The public universities are more likely to waste your time which is your life. That you cannot buy back.

A lot of people's lives have been totally ruined by the public university systems. I can go on and on. From imposition of courses to overcrowded classrooms and outright unconducive learning environments.... With widespread poverty pervading the atmosphere coupled with the so-called yahoo boiz and gals strutting about the institution.

Most private universities are levellers. No cars, eat same food, no extravagance, morals still taught, courtesy taught, and above all your time is NOT wasted. ...which is your life!

The conversation is neither here nor there, as both have outfits which engage in sharp practices

Perfectly said and understood.
@ Prof Agbede, of course! Would mention a couple of others but that would stray too close to opening me up!

Back in my time Yahoo boys were not so much the problem as cultists but in my school cultism was mild compared to some other scary places.

PepeXKermit:
They offer one world of view, please tell me what world of view or view of the world does public schools intentionally offer students? Please tell me again, what is learning about?

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That's the point. A university is a microcosm of the larger society so it should contain all flavours of life and all worldviews. That's what makes it a real place where the student can experience for the first time a sense of the larger world. A place which is almost like a convent can never give that advantage.

PepeXKermit:
I am not here to punctuate in perfect English manner. this is a social forum and not an academic setting. I am typing with my phone in a high speed manner and I do not have to prove to you my level of intelligence by the way i type.. You are a typical case of if there is nothing more to attack, go for personal attacks or their "way of expression" ...

Like I said, you are capping. Even in the most corrupt institution in Nigeria, there is nobody who will come out as the best of the flock when they actually do not deserve it. Stop capping.

Blablabla.... Have a great day sir ! You want to win argument


Okay you have won! Are you happy now ?

DeepSight:
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That's the point. A university is a microcosm of the larger society so it should contain all flavours of life and all worldviews. That's what makes it a real place where the student can experience for the first time a sense of the larger world. A place which is almost like a convent can never give that advantage.

you will experience a lot form your cousins if you all converge in the village for holidays, talkless of thousands of people from different tribes, religion and background clumped up together in one enclave, what else is different from both experiences if e no pass ashawo, thuggery, God-entitled lecturers, bribery, wetin dey there again to learn?

PepeXKermit:
you will experience a lot form your cousins if you all converge in the village for holidays, talkless of thousands of people from different tribes, religion and background clumped up together in one enclave, what else is different from both experiences if e no pass ashawo, thuggery, God-entitled lecturers, bribery, wetin dey there again to learn?

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Nah, it's beyond all that. It's actually a practicing ground for life and for many the crucial interactions which set up their whole lives are made there.

LordIsaac:
Getting First Class is hard anywhere. Quote me daily, and twice when you get one.

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It is distinctly easier abroad.

DeepSight:
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Nah, it's beyond all that. It's actually a practicing ground for life and for many the crucial interactions which set up their whole lives are made there.

I beg to differ, imagine telling Temi or DJ cuppy that because they dont mingle with the middle class, they do not have the skills to navigate life. This is a bull sheet assertion. This is the analogy you are trying to portray? Please.....

DeepSight:
Perfectly said and understood.
@ Prof Agbede, of course! Would mention a couple of others but that would stray too close to opening me up!

Back in my time Yahoo boys were not so much the problem as cultists but in my school cultism was mild compared to some other scary places.

It is well.

PepeXKermit:
I beg to differ, imagine telling Temi or DJ cuppy that because they dont mingle with the middle class, they do not have the skills to navigate life. This is a bull sheet assertion. This is the analogy you are trying to portray? Please.....

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This is a very bad analogy because you are selecting extremely privileged people who have everything on a platter of gold.

That being said, it remains nonetheless true that many such kids do lack key life skills and cannot cope outside the protections of their privilege if flung into tough and unpredictable situations. This is a fact.