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Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by CharlotteFlair: 9:29am On Oct 30, 2025*

Yes we do!

No matter what you believe, what you see online is a true representation of the mindset of an average Nigerian. Cos, if you see me on the streets and do anyhow for no just cause, it may cost you a tooth or teeth.

Faceless forums only provided the much needed cover to play out what rings in the hearts of Nigerians.

First, it was the north using religion to accept or sideline whoever they want. And because majority Yorubas are Muslims, they quickly found favor with the north who have been, more than any other tribe, in power whether military or otherwise.

And together, they shared the spoils of office among themselves, and only threw crumbs at Igbos here and there according to their whims and caprices.

They took over every government offices and security agencies.

The north, by it's sheer population became the ones deciding who gets what in an election.

Even though today, we have discovered that the so called population of the north is nothing more than foreigners from Niger republic and under age voting. And nobody, I mean nobody has been able to challenge them!

Then the Yorubas, taking a cue from the north discovered they could use such tactics too(divide and rule), to get political and economic advancement and that's what you see playing out in Lagos and environs.

The Igbos on their part, politically disadvantaged and outnumbered by these Muslim brotherhood could only survive by perpetuating themselves in business. And they progressed in business exponentially.

However, economic prowess is nothing compared to political power because no matter what, one LG chairman can wake up tomorrow and use his pen to resuce your economic empire to rubble's!

The Igbos are in Kano, in Lagos, PHC and in every nook and cranny of Nigeria doing business, building economic empires and contributing their quota to the development of their host city. But this gesture has brought them both admiration and envy.

The tribalism and hate came to a climax when Peter Obi decided to throw his hat in the ring in the last election.

Other Igbos have been contesting presidential elections in the past without any meaningful results, but this time was different. Peter Obi got massive support from Yorubas, Igbos and middle belts and SS.

APC led by tinubu who was a formidable contester in that election saw defeat staring him in the face for the first time in his entire political journey, due to the unprecedented support Peter Obi enjoyed from the masses.

Some people who had never voted before in their entire lives, swore to vote because of Pete Obi. The support from for him was organic. Not money induced!
And because, inec had continued to assure Nigerians that for the first time in history, their votes would count. We believed them! This turned out to be the biggest lie of the century for reasons we all know.

I voted in Lagos, I saw first hand how APC was prepared to stop the Obidient train using a combination of several underhand tactics including killings to undermine the Obidient movement. I suffered personal injuries myself and nearly lost my life from stray bullets.

After the presidential, the underhand tactics got even more brutal, the rest is history.

Since then, it's been no sleep for Yoruba APC in the SW. How to prevent a reoccurrence of the support Obi got from that side and elsewhere indeed, became their only life ambition. And we can see what they are doing now.

I don't hate Yorubas. I grew up in Lagos. I can speak and write their language so perfectly that you could mistake me for someone from ijebu.

But coming to NL many years ago, my only mission was to search for job openings as I heard some people had been lucky from the listings here. I made the mistake of veering into the politics section and that was where I saw first hand, Yoruba hate towards Igbos!

Monikers like Gbawe notably stood out in that regard. And I couldn't just understand it.

Jonathan was in power then. The online hate against this president from the minority ijaw was unprecedented. Never has any Nigerian president, good or bad, liked or not, been so mindlessly distracted!

They leveled him an Igbo president! I couldn't wrap my fingers around it. How did an ijaw man become an Igboman to the Yorubas huh

??

A poster put the blame on tinubu in his submission on this thread. It is very true!

The opposition been led and funded by Tinubu were behind the massive distraction of the Jonathan's government.

Their mindless attacks were however not for immediate gains but for a futuristic one.

After the birth of APC, the rest is history. Jonathan out buhari in..the plot is taking shape.

Now tinubu is there whether by hook or crook, love him or hate him, he did not to assuage the deep political and tribal tensions his victory threw up, rather, he empowered his supporters mostly his Yoruba people to double down on the cracks. His mission? To win a reelection!

You see Mr Op, it's only a tree you'd tell, I will cut you down tomorrow and when you show up tomorrow, the tree would still be standing still waiting for you.

A Yoruba adage says..igi ganganran magun mi loju, ati oke latinwo. This loosely means that prevention is better than cure.

Igbos, will fight back! They would push back! As far as their strength can carry them! They will never stand idly by and watch others, especially Yorubas deep five fingers into their eyes.

Only those who show me love, I will show love. Nigeria belongs to all of us!

If this country wants to implode, it will do so with all of us inside!

There can never be justice without equity!

The only thing that can whittle down this tension is for the rest of the country to unamously support an Igbo candidate to be president, just like they did for Jonathan.

In the absence of that, let the people be free to choose their leaders. Let our votes count. Those saddled with this responsibility must discharge their duties without biases.

Otherwise, let's go our separate ways, let's share the national assests by trade offs and other means and everyone goes to develop their regions.

If I want to remain in SW, if they require me to have documentation for my stay, I will gladly do that.
If I'm required to have documentation to go to Kano, I'll gladly do that and vice versa for other tribes.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Brenbentondiaz: 9:30am On Oct 30, 2025

franchasng:
God bless your soul.

Unfortunately, I won't be pretentious in my response to your beautiful write up.

I don't know your tribe, so I will comment sincerely.

I grew up in the Southeast and later Southwest.

I have lots of Yorubas as friends, I am Igbo. We went to school together, did nysc together and are still friends till date. Most of us are doing very well now, some live abroad, some in Nigeria, we do chat and call once in a while due to distance.

I also have few Northern friends I met during NYSC because I have never lived or stepped my foot in the North beyond Abuja. My second home after Southeast have always been Lagos, Ogun.

From my personal experience, Yorubas used to be very wonderful and peaceful. We Igbos always praised Yorubas for this in the past even amongst us, we cherished Yorubas and reason we always supported anything Yoruba with our full chest and accepted Lagos, Ogun, Ondo (Ore) as our second homes without ever thinking that what is happening in Southwest now will ever happen.

The current spread of tribalism in Nigeria now which is now mostly between Yorubas and Igbos is caused by nobody else but Bola Tinubu and his Lagos APC.

Tinubu in his desperate effort to continue to confiscate Lagos state felt that the only people that will threaten his political grip on Lagos are the Igbos, brought the renewed division between Igbos and Yorubas.

They always used this style towards every Governorship election in Lagos.

When Fashola was contesting and Igbos supported Jimmy Agbaje the PDP candidate based on party affiliation, Lagos APC started campaigning against Jimmy Agbaje by calling him an Igbo candidate that is not real Omoluabi.

They did same when Jimmy Agbaje contested against Ambode.

Ambode performed very well and Igbos noticed it and started supporting Ambode, unfortunately Ambode fell out with Tinubu due to their internal politics, Igbos kept supporting Ambode not minding the disagreement between him and Tinubu. Next they started calling Ambodi an omo ale because Igbos were supporting him.

In 2019 when Buhari contested against Atiku, Igbos supported Atiku against Buhari.

Lagos APC intensified their campaign against Atiku and PDP, next Oba of Lagos, Oba Akiolu threatened to throw Igbos into the Lagoon if they refuse to vote for APC in Lagos, that one slid, everybody forgot about it.

2023 came, Igbos had a belief that it was ripe for an Igbo man to become President since almost every other tribe have produced President, they campaigned for PDP to microzone their ticket to Southeast, Atiku supported it but Wike said never that it should be thrown open, Atiku said if it will be thrown open that he would contest. They threw it open, Igbo youths via social media told Obi that if he accept to become Atiku running mate that nobody will vote him that he should contest even he fails. Peter Obi decamped from PDP and joined LP an unknown party.

Gradually LP gained traction as Obi joined.

Gradually LP displaced PDP as the second most popular party in Lagos.

2023 Presidential election was drawing closer, APC Lagos from nowhere manufactured the mantra of Lagos is a no man's land that have existed for decades without anybody bothering or paying attention to it. They started saying Igbos wants to take over Lagos that Yorubas must rise up and stop Igbos. Gradually it gained tempo, and it became worst after Peter Obi won Tinubu in Lagos.

Lagos APC then went on rampage ahead of the Governorship election calling LP Governorship candidate an Igbo guy Shinedu that wants to help Igbos take over Lagos that Yorubas must stop them at all cost.

MC Oluomo threatened Igbos not to come out to vote.

This was how the whole thing became more profound and as Tinubu was sworn in, instead of him to douse the tension as the father of the nation being the President, with his actions he emboldened the tribalists from Southwest by appointing mostly Yorubas and sidelining Igbos and Lagos state government on their side intensified anti-Igbo policies.

So my brother it is Bola Tinubu that is polarizing Nigeria, especially between Yorubas and Igbos, nobody else. Let's call a spade a spade

I think Tulumbu also made the igbos to start bashing Hausas and Fulanis during Buhari's time, right? Tulumbu also made igbos support the annulment of June 12? Oh! Igbos were always supporting the Yorubas before, right? That was why Abiola lost in the east? It seems lying is the lifeblood that sustains you deveropers. All these sermons were not seen when you igbos were having a field day bashing Hausas and Fulanis. When you now touched those you can't handle, you started wailing and wearing cassocks preaching pretentious peace all over the place. You lot are entertaining.

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Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by VonScott(m): 9:33am On Oct 30, 2025*

I think the question really is do we LOVE ourselves.
Is it really the politicians/ elites causing ALL of the unrests.

The Genuine Universal love for Humanity here truly is a foreign concept.
The history of this lands tell a different story...One of wars, kingdoms, oppression, slavery & servitude
Brought together for mutually selfish puposes. Concepts of patriotism, nationalism etc. are weak/ imposed.
Any small shake it resets to DEFAULT. This shows up in the attitudes of people today
If you're smart enough you wont expect LOVE where there NO HISTORY of it.
The GOOD OLD African culture is simply MAKE BELIEF/a myth.

It's quite easy, go outside your house today and observe people.
Commute in the streets, go to the markets and gather data.
There you would know the reality. Never a time throughout the history
of the peoples in this country today & in precolonial times was there any thing called LOVE.

Today, you see the old kingdoms/ruling houses BLATANTLY LYING everyday & revising history to cover part of its inglorious past,
pitting one ruling house against the other and causing problems. Others vying to establish kingship where there are none!
Some cannot & will NEVER tell THE TRUTH about historic past events even if their lives depended on it leaving no chance for genuine reconciliation ever. Authorities don't ever have a clue to permanently solving challenges or always bias in PROTECTING certain interests. Something happens, there's no inquiry, investigation nothing. Everybody boils over, they cool off and return back EXACTLY where they were only for the same exact thing to happen again, and again...

That said, they are still good people you meet each and everyday. The whole point here? Get REAL!
Online tribal wars shouldn't be encouraged. But, don't get it twisted, This ain't no KUMBAYA FAIRYTALE

People are just people, what you see is what you get. If you don't see that online tribalism in real life, it's certainly because those people have mastered the art of GATEKEEPING. They keep informations & certain opportunities among themselves. Seriously, who hasn't met those people who in a party of casual friends switch languages mid conversations to speak coded to someone of something that might interest others? (WAZOBIA). What do we call that? Its REALITY my friend.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Brenbentondiaz: 9:46am On Oct 30, 2025

I can't believe the high level of fantasy and hypocrisy of deveropers. When Yoruba elders complained about neglect under Jonathan, igbos showed their colours (the thread is still on Nairaland. If not, they'd have denied it in their natural lying ways). When Buhari became president, igbos descended on Hausas and Fulanis, calling them all sorts of names. The few sensible ones among them that were preaching restraint were termed unity beggars, sabos, etc. But all of a sudden, it's Tulumbu and Yorubas that started big. otry. If being st. vpid is a virtue in igboland, don't project that on others. You lot will start a war you can't win. When it busts right in your faces, you start wailing and crying and blaming others. Story as old as time itself. You can only fooool those who don't know you.

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Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by YoshihideSuga: 12:30pm On Oct 31, 2025

ZombieDredd:
This is truth and nothing but truth.
But they have twisted everything.
Just days ago, a silly girl was marketing a brand and insulted igbos in the video, just like that, no provocation nothing.

After public outcry, she went ahead to do a cut and join apology, but the retail business she did advert for has yet to discociate with the bigotry she did....they support her.

Go to twitter and see yorubas supporting her, including people with PHD, swimming in bigotry and tribalism
But some evil godforsaken children will come out and blame Igbos for causing trouble.

The elites are behind this. So, it's high time Igbos, especially Lagos Igbos, know their left from their right.

Once the elites of a country or ethnic group are behind any movement, that's what the majority will support.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by YoshihideSuga: 12:59pm On Oct 31, 2025

Brenbentondiaz:
I can't believe the high level of fantasy and hypocrisy of deveropers. When Yoruba elders complained about neglect under Jonathan, igbos showed their colours (the thread is still on Nairaland. If not, they'd have denied it in their natural lying ways). When Buhari became president, igbos descended on Hausas and Fulanis, calling them all sorts of names. The few sensible ones among them that were preaching restraint were termed unity beggars, sabos, etc. But all of a sudden, it's Tulumbu and Yorubas that started big. otry. If being st. vpid is a virtue in igboland, don't project that on others. You lot will start a war you can't win. When it busts right in your faces, you start wailing and crying and blaming others. Story as old as time itself. You can only fooool those who don't know you.

If Buhari was competent enough, the accusation against Igbos would have been fair. But Buhari was incompetent and Igbos were proven to be right that he was up to no good.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by ElSudani: 1:11pm On Oct 31, 2025*

There you go again. Gbawe was mainly about politics and he came probably a whole decade after some vile characters like Chino, lady Osisi and some others.
These folks were the creators of tribalism on Nairaland.
By the time you came the cat was already out of the bag.

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Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by doncartel: 1:26pm On Oct 31, 2025

There’s no country without such divisions. We all heard that Scotland is trying to break out of UK. In US it’s the West coast vs the East coast. In Ghana it is Ashanti vs Ewe. In South Africa it’s black vs white. So our own is Igbo vs Yoruba.

Rather we should aim to keep it intellectual which is what I’ve been doing. People like beerfraud should use the tribal division to suggest ideas instead of descending into malice.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by iamfraud(f): 1:31pm On Oct 31, 2025

doncartel:
There’s no country without such divisions. We all heard that Scotland is trying to break out of UK. In US it’s the West coast vs the East coast. In Ghana it is Ashanti vs Ewe. In South Africa it’s black vs white. So our own is Igbo vs Yoruba.

Rather we should aim to keep it intellectual which is what I’ve been doing. People like beerfraud should use the tribal division to suggest ideas instead of descending into malice.

exposing dubious Nigerians is now tribalism to you ?

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Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by doncartel: 1:56pm On Oct 31, 2025

beerfraud:
exposing dubious Nigerians is now tribalism to you ?

Then what is chisos, aligwe, our native names again? You sometimes expose your great malice towards the entire Igbo tribe.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Shawarmagirl: 2:15pm On Oct 31, 2025

One section of the country cannot strive without tribalism in every election period. They will remind Nigeria it's the turn of the South. But in reality, it's otherwise.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by iamfraud(f): 2:38pm On Oct 31, 2025

doncartel:
Then what is chisos, aligwe, our native names again? You sometimes expose your great malice towards the entire Igbo tribe.

you guys always mention Ibo first on my thread

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by T9ksy(m): 3:55pm On Oct 31, 2025

beerfraud:
exposing dubious Nigerians is now tribalism to you ?

Honestly!!!

I have come to the rwalisation that we surely speak in different tongues and words meant different things in different cultures.

The word "tribalism" is a classical example - zik called yorubas tribalist simply because he lost out on becoming Leader of Govt in the old western region. He claimed, yorubas cross-carpetted to disallow an igbo man from filling that post.
I asked, why does an igbo man wants to be the leader in yorubaland? Isn't that act in itself, tribalism?

In actual fact, it was zik that introduced tribalism and igbophobia into our political lexicon in the 1940s.

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Brenbentondiaz: 11:24pm On Oct 31, 2025

YoshihideSuga:
If Buhari was competent enough, the accusation against Igbos would have been fair. But Buhari was incompetent and Igbos were proven to be right that he was up to no good.

So because Buhari was incompetent, all northerners must be called c. ows? How do you lot reason?

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Disinfectant123: 11:24am On Jan 03

T9ksy:
Honestly!!!

I have come to the rwalisation that we surely speak in different tongues and words meant different things in different cultures.

The word "tribalism" is a classical example - zik called yorubas tribalist simply because he lost out on becoming Leader of Govt in the old western region. He claimed, yorubas cross-carpetted to disallow an igbo man from filling that post.
I asked, why does an igbo man wants to be the leader in yorubaland? Isn't that act in itself, tribalism?

In actual fact, it was zik that introduced tribalism and igbophobia into our political lexicon in the 1940s.

was this not the imaginary one nigeria yall are grasping to? Whats wrong with an igbo man contesting in youruba land IN NIGERIA?

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by Lifestone(m): 11:46am On Jan 03

chiagozien:
You don't know those people are taught from kids by their parents to hate omo Igbos.

But this won't stop.me from hanging out with one of my very good Igbo friend today.
I didn't even check who own the factory that produced the drugs I use.
It's obviously not a serious issue. It it needs attention before it becomes an issue

Re: Tribalism: Do We Really Hate Ourselves? by T9ksy(m): 4:06pm On Jan 04*

Disinfectant123:
was this not the imaginary one nigeria yall are grasping to? Whats wrong with an igbo man contesting in youruba land IN NIGERIA?

Omo, don't get twisted, jor. The only peps clamouring for One Nigeria was zik and his dishonourable plebs.

Zik wasn't just contesting in yorubaland rather he was posturing himself to lead the govt of western region..This was the same zik who had a meltdown and started the "Lagos press war" , simply because the yorubas decided to form "Egbe Omo odua" - a socio-cultural group in yorubaland!!

Zik claimed in his west african pilot, that the "egbe..., was a facist organisation that must be dismembered. Meanwhile zik himself, was the president of a socio-cultural group, the igbo federation union.

Barely 3yrs later, zik wanted to become leader of govt (premier) in yorubaland! No be juju be dat.

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