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TenQ:
I will continue to *** you with Islam until sense enters you that Islamabad is a fabric cation based on copied nuggets of the TRUTH and an assembly of lies disguised as TRUTH.

All I ask is that you be consistent with the use of Grammar! Is that too much to ask!?

How come Alla hu seems not to be able to say anything in a non-ambiguous and clear manner? He requires faithfuls like you to re-interprete his words to mean what he didn't say.

And Christianity isn't a Fabric.ation right. .

Awwnnnn.....are you getting emotional as y'all always do when you can't face the truth?.

Mattswaggz:
And Christianity isn't a Fabric.ation right. .

Awwnnnn.....are you getting emotional as y'all always do when you can't face the truth?.

You think I need to defend the Truth of Christ with you!?
No! No!! No!!!

When you know Jesus, you have Life !
Unfortunately,
The Blind who is also arrogant remain in Darkness!

Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!

TenQ:
You think I need to defend the Truth of Christ with you!?
No! No!! No!!!

When you know Jesus, you have Life !
Unfortunately,
The Blind who is also arrogant remain in Darkness!

Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!

Of course you no one needs to defend the Truth....the Truth is self preserving(it remains constant and it stands the test of time),the truth manifests in the reality we all can see,the truth is divine,the truth sets free indeed,whether anyone likes it or not they will be either bound by the truth or they'll have to face it soon if they keep living in denial......And one of those truths is that Religion isn't the making of the Lord but that of Men that's why most of it keep on changing from time...for Instance this Christianity you're talking about only started existing some 2500+years ago. .

The "truth of Christ" that you're talking about started existing around that time as well and it might yet fade in the future if another one pops up and it's more acceptable or forcefully enacted.

Make no mistake....no one gives a damn about what you believe or not....you have the right as a human to believe anything you want to....but to make it a "FACT" will require evidence which you don't have just like the other religions you're condemning....so there is little or no difference between you and them....every difference you think exists between you and them only exists in ur head and reality which is the manifestation of undeniable and unavoidable truth will always keep you and ur likes in checkmate.....as simple as that. .

Mattswaggz:
Of course you no one needs to defend the Truth....the Truth is self preserving(it remains constant and it stands the test of time),the truth manifests in the reality we all can see,the truth is divine,the truth sets free indeed,whether anyone likes it or not they will be either bound by the truth or they'll have to face it soon if they keep living in denial......And one of those truths is that Religion isn't the making of the Lord but that of Men that's why most of it keep on changing from time...for Instance this Christianity you're talking about only started existing some 2500+years ago. .

The "truth of Christ" that you're talking about started existing around that time as well and it might yet fade in the future if another one pops up and it's more acceptable or forcefully enacted.

Make no mistake....no one gives a damn about what you believe or not....you have the right as a human to believe anything you want to....but to make it a "FACT" will require evidence which you don't have just like the other religions you're condemning....so there is little or no difference between you and them....every difference you think exists between you and them only exists in ur head and reality which is the manifestation of undeniable and unavoidable truth will always keep you and ur likes in checkmate.....as simple as that. .

You make a loud assumption with your claims which are unsubstantiated with ANYTHING no matter how small.

Who told you I don't have my own experience!?
Do you know me!?


This was why I said that :
Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!


Religion is what man does in order to please his Divine. The TRUTH is constant and unchanging and that TRUTH is Christ. You also have your own religion don't you? The religion of self worship! LOL

If you don't know him, too bad for you!

TenQ:
You make a loud assumption with your claims which are unsubstantiated with ANYTHING no matter how small.

Who told you I don't have my own experience!?
Do you know me!?


This was why I said that :
Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!


Religion is what man does in order to please his Divine. The TRUTH is constant and unchanging and that TRUTH is Christ. You also have your own religion don't you? The religion of self worship! LOL

If you don't know him, too bad for you!

Who spoke about experience here?.....A lot of people from different religious groups do have extraordinary experiences that further strengthens their beliefs....it's not as if it's applicable to you only except if you've experienced something that has never happened before which you would have to share with evidence before anyone will believe you. .

Lol...the truth is something that sprang up 2500+yrs ago.... Lmao. 😂.

Self delusion at it's peak...like I said, the truth is constant and doesn't change....it is infinite as well so the truth WAS,IS and and IS TO COME(past, present and future).... Not some made up stuff that changes to suit specific agendas. 😂.

So in essence..Christ is ur truth...it's self delusion to assume what you view as truth is applicable in reality except you could provide any evidence which you don't....the worst case scenario is you'll end up insulting those who refuse to agree with you because you don't have any evidence just like you've started here already but I am not new to the antics of ur likes.

Mattswaggz:
Who spoke about experience here?.....A lot of people from different religious groups do have extraordinary experiences that further strengthens their beliefs....it's not as if it's applicable to you only except if you've experienced something that has never happened before which you would have to share with evidence before anyone will believe you. .

Lol...the truth is something that sprang up 2500+yrs ago.... Lmao. 😂.

Self delusion at it's peak...like I said, the truth is constant and doesn't change....it is infinite as well so the truth WAS,IS and and IS TO COME(past, present and future).... Not some made up stuff that changes to suit specific agendas. 😂.

So in essence..Christ is ur truth...it's self delusion to assume what you view as truth is applicable in reality except you could provide any evidence which you don't....the worst case scenario is you'll end up insulting those who refuse to agree with you because you don't have any evidence just like you've started here already but I am not new to the antics of ur likes.

I am still correct


This was why I said that :
Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!



If you don't know him, too bad for you![/quote]

TenQ:
I am still correct


This was why I said that :
Unfortunately,
This blind man thinks that because he cannot see, everyone else is like him.
And
When those who have seen the Light tell him, his arrogance prevents him from coming to the ONE who Alone gives Sight to the humble!



If you don't know him, too bad for you!

Okay thanks for summarizing yourself in one quote and how ur arrogance keeps u from seeing the light....doing this earlier would've saved us some time though.

I am glad I and many others are not like you.

Jumbojax:
James 2:1 MY BRETHREN, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons

First of, none of the writers of the new testament called someone a brother if they were not saved.

Hence this chapter is not a chapter talking about salvation, the people being addressed are already saved.

This chapter covers Christian service and how having faith alone which is enough for salvation is not enough for profitable works

So how were they saved with faith, What does the faith entails?

Truthseeker10:
So how were they saved with faith, What does the faith entails?

By trusting in Christ for heaven, by trusting the promise He made in John 3:16, 18, 36. Its all over.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

Jumbojax:
By trusting in Christ for heaven, by trusting the promise He made in John 3:16, 18, 36. Its all over.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

So what is the point of James 2:24-26 if it has nothing to do with salvation?

Truthseeker10:
So what is the point of James 2:24-26 if it has nothing to do with salvation?

In my humble opinion, it was written to expose the self-righteous and eye-servicers in the congregation.
Thats why the earlier part of the passage talks about judging ppl based on appearance
James 2:2-3 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

Jumbojax:
In my humble opinion, it was written to expose the self-righteous and eye-servicers in the congregation.
Thats why the earlier part of the passage talks about judging ppl based on appearance
James 2:2-3 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;
And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

So why do I need to obey and follow what James is saying in those verses if I am to be declared righteous and saved irrespective of what I do?

Explain James 2:14 if my works has nothing to do with Salvation.

Truthseeker10:
So why do I need to obey and follow what James is saying in those verses if I am to be declared righteous and saved irrespective of what I do?

Explain James 2:14 if my works has nothing to do with Salvation.

James 2:14 is following the context of the chapter, faith can't save you from temporal physical suffering but faith alone in Christ alone absolutely saves from eternal destruction
The more important question is, why did Jesus have to die a sinners death if your works could save you eternally.
Sowing and reaping will always exist and obeying or disobeying God has effect in this life saved or unsaved. But entering heaven is all based on what Jesus did for us. If you decide to obey and love God you will have rewards in this life and the next, but heaven is free by faith because Jesus paid for everything with his blood.
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Jumbojax:
James 2:14 is following the context of the chapter, faith can't save you from temporal physical suffering but faith alone in Christ alone absolutely saves from eternal destruction
The more important question is, why did Jesus have to die a sinners death if your works could save you eternally.
Sowing and reaping will always exist and obeying or disobeying God has effect in this life saved or unsaved. But entering heaven is all based on what Jesus did for us. If you decide to obey and love God you will have rewards in this life and the next, but heaven is free by faith because Jesus paid for everything with his blood.
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

So you're saying that Abraham's faith saved him only from physical suffering and not Eternal destruction according to James 2:20-24?

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that Abraham's faith saved him only from physical suffering and not Eternal destruction according to James 2:20-24?

No that verse shows his faith was made perfect by his works.
Was made profitable to everyone around him, just like when he changed his name, but before God(which is heaven) his faith was already validated before he did all that.

Romans 4:2-3 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Jumbojax:
No that verse shows his faith was made perfect by his works.
Was made profitable to everyone around him, just like when he changed his name, but before God(which is heaven) his faith was already validated before he did all that.

Romans 4:2-3 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

So Abraham did nothing but just believed in God and was saved?

Truthseeker10:
So Abraham did nothing but just believed in God and was saved?

Yes, that's what every saint knows, just the mental agreement that what God promised is true and must happen, 100% guarantees heaven. All the other good things you do after that is man's righteousness which God said is like filthy rags, but we're still exhorted to do them for the benefit of mankind.

Jumbojax:
Yes, that's what every saint knows, just the mental agreement that what God promised is true and must happen, 100% guarantees heaven. All the other good things you do after that is man's righteousness which God said is like filthy rags, but we're still exhorted to do them for the benefit of mankind.

So if Abraham had refused to do all the things that God asked him to do, he would still be saved?

Truthseeker10:
So if Abraham had refused to do all the things that God asked him to do, he would still be saved?

Of course, after all our father of faith lied to pharoah, committed adultery with Haggai, all against God's will. Yet still God's friend

Jumbojax:
Of course, after all our father of faith lied to pharoah, committed adultery with Haggai, all against God's will. Yet still God's friend

Good bye. The screenshot below proves that You're a false teacher.

Truthseeker10:
Good bye. The screenshot below proves that You're a false teacher.

So Meta Ai is not a false teacher
Ai known for creating fakes
That's hilarious 😂 😂 😂

Jumbojax:
So Meta Ai is not a false teacher
Ai known for creating fakes
That's hilarious 😂 😂 😂

I thought you were going to counter meta ai🤣🤣. You can continue the discussion with meta.

Truthseeker10:
I thought you were going to counter meta ai🤣🤣. You can continue the discussion with meta.

No na, can't even try that. Why will I rate a man-made entity over God's word.

Jumbojax:
No na, can't even try that. Why will I rate a man-made entity over God's word.

So your statement without any scriptural backing is God's word....but meta ai countering your statement is man-made🤣🤣.

Kindly prove to us that Abraham disobeying all of God's instructions to him = salvation.

Truthseeker10:
So your statement without any scriptural backing is God's word....but meta ai countering your statement is man-made🤣🤣.

Kindly prove to us that Abraham disobeying all of God's instructions to him = salvation.

Romans 4:6-7 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

Jumbojax:
Romans 4:6-7 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

So David disobeyed all of God's commandment and and instructions and was given salvation?

Truthseeker10:
So David disobeyed all of God's commandment and and instructions and was given salvation?

Did David disobey all?

Jumbojax:
Did David disobey all?

🤣🤣 But you claimed that Abraham could disobey all of God's instructions to him and be saved. Was David's case any different for salvation?

Jumbojax:
Of course, after all our father of faith lied to pharoah, committed adultery with Haggai, all against God's will. Yet still God's friend

Did Abraham Disobey all?

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣 But you claimed that Abraham could disobey all of God's instructions to him and be saved. Was David's case any different for salvation?

Look you dont believe me you believe AI cos AI tickles your ears. You want salvation to be by works, dont you?

Jumbojax:
Look you dont believe me you believe AI cos AI tickles your ears. You want salvation to be by works, dont you?

You want salvation without Obedience to God's instructions, don't you?