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It's the same way Trump made false accusations about the land settlement in South Africa, same he and his government are making false accusations about Christian genocide in Nigeria

Just some days ago, some Muslim worshippers was attacked, who is counting their own scores?

If the Muslim are the most affected with the insecurity in North, abeg who is killing the christians in Southern part of Nigeria?

Do the kidnappers, ritualists, armed robbers even rogue police officers segregate people before killing them in Southern Nigeria because those are the majority of the culprits of killing people in Southern Nigeria.

Herdsmen that might have been used as an excuse in Southern Nigeria , their activities have almost reduced to zero.

So who are the people killing the southern Christians in Nigeria?

Chairman Laptop defenders has spoken. You never see anything.

I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram.

By the way, I wonder why people are happy, this list means nothing.

Saudi arabia is on the list and many other countries.

If they sanction Nigeria, we will look elsewhere

motymop:
I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram

It's even the Muslim most especially from North supposed to be crying about the targeted killing as they are the most affected. Shia group alone have lost so many of their members to our security operatives not to talk about some steady attack on mosque, one just happened like 2 days ago.

Who is counting the Muslim killing scores in Nigeria?

motymop:
I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram.

By the way, I wonder why people are happy, this list means nothing.

Saudi arabia is on the list and many other countries.

If they sanction Nigeria, we will look elsewhere

That's just it. Our credit score amongnst the financial institutions globally have been boosted under this administration.

Even though the sanctioning might hard to the hardship which those who are celebrating this will also be served inside, we shall get over it

motymop:
I agree with you, they really don't care about Christians rather they want to create more trouble.

Aren't they the ones sponsoring boko haram.

By the way, I wonder why people are happy, this list means nothing.

Saudi arabia is on the list and many other countries.

If they sanction Nigeria, we will look elsewhere

Peace, my friend. I hear your words, and I respect the fire behind them. But allow me to speak as one who has seen much of this wide world — a Norwegian by birth, once a Royal Marine, now a guest in your great land, and proud to call it home.

You ask who will defend the Christians? Then petition your leaders to grant me the right — and I’ll don the armor of a hero. No mask, mind you, for I’d not hide a face this spectacular! I’d stand for what is just and true, and give my blood gladly for this beautiful land.

Until that day, I’ll wield my words as my sword — with honor, humor, and heart. And should the call of justice sound, you’ll find me ready, not as a stranger, but as a brother.

Fenrir:
Peace, my friend. I hear your words, and I respect the fire behind them. But allow me to speak as one who has seen much of this wide world — a Norwegian by birth, once a Royal Marine, now a guest in your great land, and proud to call it home.

You ask who will defend the Christians? Then petition your leaders to grant me the right — and I’ll don the armor of a hero. No mask, mind you, for I’d not hide a face this spectacular! I’d stand for what is just and true, and give my blood gladly for this beautiful land.

Until that day, I’ll wield my words as my sword — with honor, humor, and heart. And should the call of justice sound, you’ll find me ready, not as a stranger, but as a brother.

Please make it logical to us how Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted/targeted in any part of Nigeria. We are here to learn

helinues:
Please make it logical to us how Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted/targeted in any part of Nigeria. We are here to learn

One belief system has always ruled this country — the same group I once fought against in Afghanistan. They make up about 52% of the population, while Christians are around 46%, and the rest follow traditional beliefs. But tell me honestly, has there ever been an openly Christian president in this nation?

Fenrir:
One belief system has always ruled this country — the same group I once fought against in Afghanistan. They make up about 52% of the population, while Christians are around 46%, and the rest follow traditional beliefs. But tell me honestly, has there ever been an openly Christian president in this nation?

That's not the question I asked , how are the christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted? Who are the people targeting them and in which part of the country are their being targeted

helinues:
Please make it logical to us how Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted/targeted in any part of Nigeria. We are here to learn

Can you outright say anything disagreeable about that particular belief system the way i do as an atheist to Christians on this website? Thats your answer

helinues:
That's not the question I asked , how are the christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted? Who are the people targeting them and in which part of the country are their being targeted

And ive just told who's doing it im just allowed to say the name of that belief system or I get banned.

Fenrir:
Can you outright say anything disagreeable about that particular belief system the way i do as an atheist to Christians on this website? Thats your answer

The belief system by some Muslim is not restricted to Nigeria, Nigerians. At least in Southern part of the country, such belief is not existing.

Where such belief is still existing in Nigeria is North and it's the same Muslim that are mostly affected with the killings so far.

Even though you couldn't answer basic questions to lay the foundation of your arguments, how did you , Trump and Us government arrive at Christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted?

helinues:
The belief system by some Muslim is not restricted to Nigeria, Nigerians. At least in Southern part of the country, such belief is not existing.

Where such belief is still existing in Nigeria is North and it's the same Muslim that are mostly affected with the killings so far.

Even though you couldn't answer basic questions to lay the foundation of your arguments, how did you , Trump and Us government arrive at Christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted?

Don't waste your time on that dude. When you see fake people you sef suppose don know.

The irony of the general killings in Nigeria irrespective of faith or location, the gun runners, arm dealers are mostly from the Southern part of the country which majority of them are Christians.

Should we say generally the christians are killing Nigerians because without their continue supplying of arms and ammunition, the killings in the country would have reduced

helinues:
The belief system by some Muslim is not restricted to Nigeria, Nigerians. At least in Southern part of the country, such belief is not existing.

Where such belief is still existing in Nigeria is North and it's the same Muslim that are mostly affected with the killings so far.

Even though you couldn't answer basic questions to lay the foundation of your arguments, how did you , Trump and Us government arrive at Christians in Nigeria being persecuted/targeted?

Norway has done nothing to Nigeria — I’m not here as any agent of my country. I served in Afghanistan for nearly twelve years, fighting for the rights and freedoms of Christians there. I am Norwegian, and I once served as a Royal Marine attached to British units — that’s not boast, it’s context: Scandinavians do not take kindly to being bullied or written off.

You asked how Trump and others came to claim Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted. I don’t agree with wild headlines or careless accusations that aren’t grounded in facts. If someone points to persecution, show us the evidence, the dates, the perpetrators — don’t build a case from rhetoric. That is how false narratives spread.

And if you think the United States can bully its way into territories, remember when President Trump floated buying Greenland — the idea was met with firm rejection from Denmark and Greenland, and it became an international embarrassment for the U.S. administration. He backed down amid clear pushback.
The Guardian
+1

I spent six months working in a cultural training role trying to help build capacity for your security forces. I saw problems up close: poor morale, lack of discipline, and too many who would rather leave than hold a line. That is not a slight — it’s an observation. If a country will not defend itself, it will be defended by others only at great cost and little trust.

Let no one label me the same as Trump. I wouldn’t trade my principles for headlines. I’d fight for Africa over my home in Europe any day — and I mean that. If you want a defender, ask honestly; if you want scapegoats and slogans, you’ll get noise, not justice.

Softmirror:
Don't waste your time on that dude. When you see fake people you sef suppose don know.

Bro before this sanctioning, I have repeatedly asked those questions about to tho who believed christians are being persecuted in Nigeria, it's the same way that person has been shifting from the narration.

At least they should be able to prove what they believe

Fenrir:
Norway has done nothing to Nigeria — I’m not here as any agent of my country. I served in Afghanistan for nearly twelve years, fighting for the rights and freedoms of Christians there. I am Norwegian, and I once served as a Royal Marine attached to British units — that’s not boast, it’s context: Scandinavians do not take kindly to being bullied or written off.

You asked how Trump and others came to claim Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted. I don’t agree with wild headlines or careless[b] accusations that aren’t grounded in facts. If someone points to persecution, show us the evidence, the dates, the perpetrators — don’t build a case from rhetoric. That is how false narratives spread.

And if you think the United States can bully its way into territories, remember when President Trump floated buying Greenland — the idea was met with firm rejection from Denmark and Greenland, and it became an international embarrassment for the U.S. administration. He backed down amid clear pushback.
The Guardian
+1

I spent six months working in a cultural training role trying to help build capacity for your security forces. I saw problems up close: poor morale, lack of discipline, and too many who would rather leave than hold a line. That is not a slight — it’s an observation. If a country will not defend itself, it will be defended by others only at great cost and little trust.

Let no one label me the same as Trump. I wouldn’t trade my principles for headlines. I’d fight for Africa over my home in Europe any day — and I mean that. If you want a defender, ask honestly; if you want scapegoats and slogans, you’ll get noise, not justice.

We are not interested about your background, stay with the topic of discussion.

Can you outright say anything disagreeable about that particular belief system

The emboldened in your epistle and the quote above are not aligning. Which belief are you referring to?

helinues:
Bro before this sanctioning, I have repeatedly asked those questions about to tho who believed christians are being persecuted in Nigeria, it's the same way that person has been shifting from the narration.

At least they should be able to prove what they believe

Trump used such sentiment about Islamic Terrorism in the United States to win his first election of which statistics showed that death in the United States from gun violence by American citizens far out numbers any kind of death from the sentiment he was peddling. Trump was almost assassinated pro to his election by an American, his friend Charlie Kirk went down by an American. It tells you that something is foundamentally wrong with the American President even with the American people.

helinues:
It's the same way Trump made false accusations about the land settlement in South Africa, same he and his government are making false accusations about Christian genocide in Nigeria

Just some days ago, some Muslim worshippers was attacked, who is counting their own scores?

If the Muslim are the most affected with the insecurity in North, abeg who is killing the christians in Southern part of Nigeria?

Do the kidnappers, ritualists, armed robbers even rogue police officers segregate people before killing them in Southern Nigeria because those are the majority of the culprits of killing people in Southern Nigeria.

Herdsmen that might have been used as an excuse in Southern Nigeria , their activities have almost reduced to zero.

So who are the people killing the southern Christians in Nigeria?

Is that all? Is that the illogicality of Trump you want to prove? Nobody is here denying a society that is totally crime free including USA. Those bad elements killings in the southern part of Nigeria are not killing for Jesus; they are not shouting Jesus Akbar before they kill. Killing in south part of Nigeria is not daily occurrence, it gets long breaks, the southern part violence don't transport themselves to another northern town or western town to perpetrate killing.

The only killing that crossed border from north to the south was carried out by the same Islamic militant in bombing of church in Owo. The criminality in the north are mostly based on religion, moving from state to state, town to town. Bandits keep multiplying moving from state to state in the north which remains the only attribute of Islamic terrorists. Bandits are only Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

Evidences have been shared with how some shout Allah akbar, used terrorist insignia. Fullani herdsmen are also Muslim product only, no christian is among them, they target christian states, churches, christians with evidences of land hijacked and renamed in some communities that were formerly know to be christian territory. Islamic terrorists never reduce, they keep emerging and forming different groups moving from cities to cities, town to towns, they are soldiers of Allah and mainly Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

And recruitment is easy for all of them because many Muslims marry four wives in poverty, and their children serve as raw materials for recruitment into banditry, Islamic terrorism and violent fullani herdsmen. How should christians be the major receiver of criminality created by Muslims for muslims? They kill christian and Muslim also ...is an irritating statement. How should it be the right of a christian to suffer even more than the Muslims tht created the problem? The worst part of it is that, the Quran supported it and these category of soldiers of Allah are using their tricks under different brands to push agenda of islam.

No single chapter or verse encourage in the Quran to love unbeliver or even your enemies, everything is about hate Jews and christians. Kill unbeliver. Peaceful Muslims are hypocrites, they laugh at plight of christian on the secret when church is burnt or a christian is killed, they fill happy inside them, and cole up with propagandas to defend for their brothers. Peaceful Muslim leaders should come with a working solution to resolve this, christians don't create this problem, you create them; so christians shouldn't suffer, get killed or beheaded for Islamic atrocities if they fail to solve these problems

It is not only illogical but delusional of course yes because the people being killed are animals and less of humans omo the ududu wey people get e don dey too much. Dem go oppress person come dey misyarn. My prayers is not good on what I want the US to do to Nigerian Islamic fundamentalists and if you no like am join the crusade to see the levitation.

helinues:
We are not interested about your background, stay with the topic of discussion.



The emboldened in your epistle and the quote above are not aligning. Which belief are you referring to?

What frustrates me most is how the leaders of this country keep downplaying the truth and hiding the evidence that’s right in front of everyone. Every instinct in me — every cell in my body — is shouting that I must stand up and defend the 48% of the population who are being overlooked and endangered by the 52% who hold the balance of power.

I’ve seen what happens when dominance goes unchecked — both in the shadows and in the open. I know how quickly things can turn when fear and silence replace honesty and courage. You can speak freely because you stand among the 52%; I cannot — but that doesn’t mean I’m afraid. It means I understand what’s at stake. And each time I try to say it, I get banned and deleted for speaking the truth.

Its the 52% doing it and I see it with my own eyes here

Softmirror:
Trump used such sentiment about Islamic Terrorism in the United States to win his first election of which statistics showed that death in the United States from gun violence by American citizens far out numbers any kind of death from the sentiment he was peddling. Trump was almost assassinated pro to his election by an American, his friend Charlie Kirk went down by an American. It tells you that something is foundamentally wrong the American President even with the American people.

Bro so Hamas won the election in the Gaza area meaning they are the one in charge of government. That was since 2007. This same USA have been sending aids to the Gaza government worth million of dollars yearly. Who funded Oct 7 attack if not USA. You are sending direct aids to the person you claimed he's a terrorist

sreamsense:
Is that all? Is that the illogicality of Trump you want to prove? Nobody is here denying a society that is totally crime free including USA. Those bad elements killings in the southern part of Nigeria are not killing for Jesus; they are not shouting Jesus Akbar before they kill. Killing in south part of Nigeria is not daily occurrence, it gets long breaks, the southern part violence don't transport themselves to another northern town or western town to perpetrate killing.

The only killing that crossed border from north to the south was carried out by the same Islamic militant in bombing of church in Owo. The criminality in the north are mostly based on religion, moving from state to state, town to town. Bandits keep multiplying moving from state to state in the north which remains the only attribute of Islamic terrorists. Bandits are only Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

Evidences have been shared with how some shout Allah akbar, used terrorist insignia. Fullani herdsmen are also Muslim product only, no christian is among them, they target christian states, churches, christians with evidences of land hijacked and renamed in some communities that were formerly know to be christian territory. Islamic terrorists never reduce, they keep emerging and forming different groups moving from cities to cities, town to towns, they are soldiers of Allah and mainly Muslim products, no single christian is among them.

And recruitment is easy for all of them because many Muslims marry four wives in poverty, and their children serve as raw materials for recruitment into banditry, Islamic terrorism and violent fullani herdsmen. How should christians be the major receiver of criminality created by Muslims for muslims? They kill christian and Muslim also ...is an irritating statement. How should it be the right of a christian to suffer even more than the Muslims tht created the problem? The worst part of it is that, the Quran supported it and these category of soldiers of Allah are using their tricks under different brands to push agenda of islam.

No single chapter or verse encourage in the Quran to love unbeliver or even your enemies, everything is about hate Jews and christians. Kill unbeliver. Peaceful Muslims are hypocrites, they laugh at plight of christian on the secret when church is burnt or a christian is killed, they fill happy inside them, and cole up with propagandas to defend for their brothers. Peaceful Muslim leaders should come with a working solution to resolve this, christians don't create this problem, you create them; so christians shouldn't suffer, get killed or beheaded for Islamic atrocities if they fail to solve these problems

If the Muslim are the most affected with the insecurity in North, abeg who is killing the christians in Southern part of Nigeria?

You wrote that long epistle without answering the question above

helinues:
Please make it logical to us how Christians in Nigeria are being persecuted/targeted in any part of Nigeria. We are here to learn

It cannot be persecution and genocide to you because over time, y'all got use to all the killings and deaths like it's nothing, some of u make politics out of it..

After all.... out of over 250million pple, 2000 deaths here and there, every week or month is not even up to 1 % ........y'all have never kept tabs because the truth is few muslims are affected...but the people keeping tabs on the side of the christians........u call them liars ..

.your brothers in the north consider these bokoharam, iswaps and bandits their brothers..Garbage said it on national TV..

,....when they are caught, y'all call the repentant terrorist, absorb some in the army and integrate others back into the society.....so yeah.. you Muslims are not really affected that much....because if you were..you won't do that
....

For weeks...pple were dying in Benue and Jos like flies y'all pretend like it's a normal issue.............Every week, ur blood thirsty brothers enter churches kidnap priests and kill them........burn their churches...nearly all Christian dominated areas in the north have been ransacked ...

But because it's in the north, and some Muslims who also don't want the Islamic violence are also caught in the cross fires u want to pretend it's a general issue....

Baba...it is not .......even if it is general..is it not time we will call this issue out....is it until we are all running to Ghana as refugees....u and your wicked leaders have become so used to death,....shame on you baba....shame on you

advanceDNA:
It cannot be persecution and genocide to you because over time, y'all got use to all the killings and deaths like it's nothing, some of u make politics out of it..

After all.... out of over 250million pple, 2000 deaths here and there, every week or month is not even up to 1 % ........y'all have never kept tabs because the truth is few muslims are affected...but the people keeping tabs on the side of the christians........u call them liars ..

.your brothers in the north consider these bokoharam, iswaps and bandits their brothers..Garbage said it on national TV..

,....when they are caught, y'all call the repentant terrorist, absorb some in the army and integrate others back into the society.....so yeah.. you Muslims are not really affected that much....because if you were..you won't do that
....

For weeks...pple were dying in Benue and Jos like flies y'all pretend like it's a normal issue.............Every week, ur blood thirsty brothers enter churches kidnap priests and kill them........burn their churches...nearly all Christian dominated areas in the north have been ransacked ...

But because it's in the north, and some Muslims who also don't want the Islamic violence are also caught in the cross fires u want to pretend it's a general issue....

Baba...it is not .......even if it is general..is it not time we will call this issue out....is it until we are all running to Ghana as refugees....u and your wicked leaders have become so used to death,....shame on you baba....shame on you

Why are you guys in defense of the claim writing long epistle without answering the question which is the basis of this thread.

Who is killing the christians in Nigeria? Which part of the country is that systematic killing of the christians is taking place. Southern Kaduna is not longer in such category

helinues:
It's the same way Trump made false accusations about the land settlement in South Africa, same he and his government are making false accusations about Christian genocide in Nigeria

Just some days ago, some Muslim worshippers was attacked, who is counting their own scores?

If the Muslim are the most affected with the insecurity in North, abeg who is killing the christians in Southern part of Nigeria?

Do the kidnappers, ritualists, armed robbers even rogue police officers segregate people before killing them in Southern Nigeria because those are the majority of the culprits of killing people in Southern Nigeria.

Herdsmen that might have been used as an excuse in Southern Nigeria , their activities have almost reduced to zero.

So who are the people killing the southern Christians in Nigeria?

This is not the time to start preaching about logic on US decision. This is about time to address the terrorism and not about narration of expediency, logic, locus standi or whatever narration to divert attention from the main issue
It is high time the FG take decisive action against the perpetual killings of the Christian in the north.

The insurrection of Jihadists in the form of Boko Haram, ISWAP, Bandits and Kidnappers are out on one mission to destroy anyone who doesn't practice their faith and take their land.

Their targets are

The Christians

The indigene either Christians or Muslims who doesn't allow them perpetuate their evil agenda

The Muslim individual or community who is perceived to disagree with their doctrine and actions

Every other faith who doesn't agree with them.


Have you ever seen Sultan publicly condemn any attack?
Have you seen any Muslim political leader condemn their actions publicly?
How many BH, Bandit have the Sharia law caught and prosecuted?

It is high time the world intervene and expose al the people who directly and inderectly support these terrorist.

Killing must stop or outright dissolution of Nigeria through referendum should take place.

The blood of millions of innocent lives including Deborah is crying for justice.

There is no excuse from the government. Enough

helinues:
Why are you guys in defense of the claim writing long epistle without answering the question which is the basis of this thread.

Who is killing the christians in Nigeria? Which part of the country is that systematic killing of the christians is taking place. Southern Kaduna is not longer in such category

U are not keeping tabs...but u are calling those keeping tabs lairs.....is that not witchcraft...

How many times have u called out these deaths here on nairaland ....all u do is support wateva ur APC govt says.......even for the so called Muslims u claim it also happen to, have u ever called out the death of ur fellow Muslims.??
U don't care about ur fellow Muslims...but want those who care about Christian death not to talk...baba shame on you

Where did US sanction Nigeria ?
CPC is not sanction

Ttalk:
This is not the time to start preaching about logic on US decision. This is about time to address the terrorism and not about narration of expediency, logic, locus standi or whatever narration to divert attention from the main issue
It is high time the FG take decisive action against the perpetual killings of the Christian in the north.

The insurrection of Jihadists in the form of Boko Haram, ISWAP, Bandits and Kidnappers are out on one mission to destroy anyone who doesn't practice their faith and take their land.

Their targets are

The Christians

The indigene either Christians or Muslims who doesn't allow them perpetuate their evil agenda

The Muslim individual or community who is perceived to disagree with their doctrine and actions

Every other faith who doesn't agree with them.


Have you ever seen Sultan publicly condemn any attack?
Have you seen any Muslim political leader condemn their actions publicly?
How many BH, Bandit have the Sharia law caught and prosecuted?

It is high time the world intervene and expose al the people who directly and inderectly support these terrorist.

Killing must stop or outright dissolution of Nigeria through referendum should take place.

The blood of millions of innocent lives including Deborah is crying for justice.

There is no excuse from the government. Enough

Killings of Christian, Muslim, traditionalist or any individual is not justifiable in any way. My point is there is no systematic killing of Christians in Nigeria.

We have all been shifting the blame on the government, Benue state waited for FG's visit to tell the communities fighting decades old communal clash to stop. Same scenario happening in North.

The political leaders, elites and the community affected in most especially in North are not ready to be sincere about the back and forth killings in their respective areas

advanceDNA:
U are not keeping tabs...but u are calling those keeping tabs lairs.....is that not witchcraft...

How many times have u called out these deaths here on nairaland ....all u do is support wateva ur APC govt says.......even for the so called Muslims u claim it also happen to, have u ever called out the death of ur fellow Muslims.??
U don't care about ur fellow Muslims...but want those who care about Christian death not to talk...baba shame on you

Tell us about how many blasphemy killing you have read about so far this year in Nigeria.

Tell us in which area the christian persecution is happening, at least back your arguments with something. Stop going off the discussion by bringing Apc, Pdp. We are discussing this as Nigerians

helinues:
Tell us about how many blasphemy killing you have read about so far this year in Nigeria.

Tell us in which area the christian persecution is happening, at least back your arguments with something. Stop going off the discussion by bringing Apc, Pdp. We are discussing this as Nigerians

U are the one trying to to be smart by half
.... We are talking about your Bokoharam, ISWAP and Islamic bandits are attacking churches, kidnapping and killing priests, attacking Christian denominated areas, chasing pple out of their homes and imposing Jizya on those remaining yet are trying to water it down by calling it blasphemy related killings....... Baba...stop it jarè