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Iceking1:
My question Is why do so many Generals go on compulsory retirement whenever a new chief of Army staff Is appointed. I have noticed that there are always a lot of Major Generals in the army. In which there are always no lieutenant Generals, except promoted to chief of army staff.

Also, from my years of observations, all the selected chief of army staff are always major generals before being promoted to Lieutenant Generals, when picked as chief of army staff.


What's confusing me right now and what I still can't get my head around Is why do other generals go on compulsory retirement Even when the newly chief of army staff Is being promoted to a lieutenant General, which Is superior than a major general.

Because from what I have observed, the generals that always goes on compulsory retirement are always major generals, can someone please enlighten me on this?

Iceking1:
My question Is why do so many Generals go on compulsory retirement whenever a new chief of Army staff Is appointed. I have noticed that there are always a lot of Major Generals in the army. In which there are always no lieutenant Generals, except promoted to chief of army staff.

Also, from my years of observations, all the selected chief of army staff are always major generals before being promoted to Lieutenant Generals, when picked as chief of army staff.


What's confusing me right now and what I still can't get my head around Is why do other generals go on compulsory retirement Even when the newly chief of army staff Is being promoted to a lieutenant General, which Is superior than a major general.

Because from what I have observed, the generals that always goes on compulsory retirement are always major generals, can someone please enlighten me on this?

Eriokanmi:
the promotion into the ranks in the military always comes with bias, especially in Nigeria. I remember this incident very well. I also remember when Gen Abdulsalaam Abubakar was elevated into full general, skipping 2 ranks and his seniors to become head of state after abacha was murdered.

In a situation where a top military officer leading a nation dies or becomes incapacitated, his second-in-command takes over but in the case of abubakar,due process wasn't followed

Racoon:
"Meet The Simultaneous Lieutenant General Holders In The History of the Nigerian Army."

geezville86:
You are correct, regarding Adeosun. The only thing I’d add is that Lt. Gen. Buratai played a MAJOR role in Adeosun’s promotion to Lt. Gen., in fact Adeosun said as much during a brief pre-retirement ceremony for Buratai. If you do some more research, you may discover that Buratai’s dad was friends with Buhari. After Buratai’s retirement, I suspect he engaged Buhari not to retire his old pal, Adeosun, and that’s why he was able to stay on for a while after Attahir took the helm. Adeosun was a very loyal guy and did not seem like someone that would disrupt the system by being insubordinate to the new chain of command.

Chibuzoc:
Generals that dirty smelling terrorists are dealing with

Newbie2024:
When a junior officer gets promoted to COAS, his senior colleagues can't work under him, due to the hierarchy, in such cases, retirement often becomes the only option to maintain harmony and respect within the force

ZombieDredd:
Retirement is not the only option.

The seniors can be sent on foreign missions with their new rank but it's rare though

Pythagoras001:
why cant there be more than 2 liternant general 3 stars or even general 4 stars in the army? it just doesn't make sense to me. you can have multiple 4 stars generals and still maintain an heirarchy

Iceking1:
My question Is why do so many Generals go on compulsory retirement whenever a new chief of Army staff Is appointed. I have noticed that there are always a lot of Major Generals in the army. In which there are always no lieutenant Generals, except promoted to chief of army staff.

Also, from my years of observations, all the selected chief of army staff are always major generals before being promoted to Lieutenant Generals, when picked as chief of army staff.


What's confusing me right now and what I still can't get my head around Is why do other generals go on compulsory retirement Even when the newly chief of army staff Is being promoted to a lieutenant General, which Is superior than a major general.

Because from what I have observed, the generals that always goes on compulsory retirement are always major generals, can someone please enlighten me on this?

Iceking1:
My question Is why do so many Generals go on compulsory retirement whenever a new chief of Army staff Is appointed. I have noticed that there are always a lot of Major Generals in the army. In which there are always no lieutenant Generals, except promoted to chief of army staff.

Also, from my years of observations, all the selected chief of army staff are always major generals before being promoted to Lieutenant Generals, when picked as chief of army staff.


What's confusing me right now and what I still can't get my head around Is why do other generals go on compulsory retirement Even when the newly chief of army staff Is being promoted to a lieutenant General, which Is superior than a major general.

Because from what I have observed, the generals that always goes on compulsory retirement are always major generals, can someone please enlighten me on this?

Iceking1:
My question Is why do so many Generals go on compulsory retirement whenever a new chief of Army staff Is appointed. I have noticed that there are always a lot of Major Generals in the army. In which there are always no lieutenant Generals, except promoted to chief of army staff.

Also, from my years of observations, all the selected chief of army staff are always major generals before being promoted to Lieutenant Generals, when picked as chief of army staff.


What's confusing me right now and what I still can't get my head around Is why do other generals go on compulsory retirement Even when the newly chief of army staff Is being promoted to a lieutenant General, which Is superior than a major general.

Because from what I have observed, the generals that always goes on compulsory retirement are always major generals, can someone please enlighten me on this?

AndroBlaze:
I did not know about the Buratai and Buhari connection.

Before his promotion, there was an interesting media piece on how some senior officers serving in the North, disobeyed commands and stopped Buhari from being rigged out during the 2015 election.

I tend to give that piece some credence and tend to believe that was why Adeosun had his lasting power as Buhari and others felt they owed him.

Will post it below when I find it.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/312079-exclusive-inside-the-secret-meeting-by-army-officers-ordered-to-disrupt-2015-presidential-election.html?tztc=1

Pythagoras001:
why cant there be more than 2 liternant general 3 stars or even general 4 stars in the army? it just doesn't make sense to me. you can have multiple 4 stars generals and still maintain an heirarchy

Racoon:
Well military tradition has been broken over and over. There was a time when former president Ibrahim Babangida was wearing the same General rank as the late General Sanni Abacha

themanderon:
The Russian army has them aplenty.

Franking:
The military should ordinarily be invisible but they are all over the place bullying people while real criminals use them to bypass security.

wellmax:
If you read very well, this question won't be neccesary.

AndroBlaze:

The Abubakar story is not 100% correct when you talk about seniority.

Firstly he only skipped one rank, Lt General, however he was senior to Bamaiyi in 2 important ways.

Firstly he was CDS, and there is little doubt that is actually the most senior military office, and to be fair Nigeria has kept to that tradition since it was instituted.

Also he actually joined the military many years before Bamaiyi as an Airforce cadet and an Army officer later. Most military people tend to respect when you joined over even rank (secretly) as they know that was devoid of politics.

Also, if we're talking about the most senior officer at Abacha's death, Useni seniored all of them, including Abacha by when he first joined the military . He also seniored the rest by becoming a Lt General before all of them.

So anyway, the right call was made by the military during Abdulsalami's time , and obviously this later proved true for most Nigerians who wanted democracy ( at the rate they were enjoying, there was very little hope that Jerry boy or Bamaiyi would have handed over power to civilians).

Eriokanmi:
You tried but not all correct pieces of information were put up by you on the position of Abdulsalaam Abubakar before becoming head of state. Please do your findings.

The immediate senior to him was Lieutenant General Jeremiah Useni. Useni was commissioned the LT Gen ahead of Gen Abdulsalaami Abubakar, even though Gen Abubakar joined the army before him. Gen Abubakar ought to have even gone farther than that much earlier but due to the unsubstantiated unruly behaviour when serving at the Odogbo military barracks at Ojoo in ibadan, his promotion was delayed.

[b]This isn't a debatable fact. [/b]We get one oga for military for my family and I had to call thim to confirm this before posting it. He served actively in anacha's administration so he was in the know of everything.Gen Oladipo Diya was the most senior but because they needed a regime change, being the second-in-command to Abacha(though ceremoniously) Gen. Diya wasn't considered a successor. I doubt Google will differ, if you check

AndroBlaze:
Bros, no be only you get family during Abacha, some of us were there live and direct and met these people, Google cannot be needed for eyewitness experience... remember this is an online forum so you cannot be sure who you are speaking to.

Anyway, you did not read what I said before you posted your epistle.

I had already agreed that Useni seniored everyone by rank and when he joined , however as an FCT minister, he is no more than a governor and until you can show me where in the past a governor succeeded a head of state without a coup then you need to go and speak to your family member some more.

The seniority of your office has always mattered in the Army. Also Abdulsalami was never a Lt General and was promoted from Major General to General when he became C in C, which again shows you did not read people's comments before you dropped yours.

Eriokanmi:
I didn't say you never agreed to the fact that Oseni seniored Abdulsalaam by rank and I read your post well before responding, I only corroborated what you said, that though the former joined military earlier, the latter seniored him by military ranking and I told you what you didn't know...why his promotion was stagnated due to his odoogbo barracks' unruly behaviour. The retired military officer in the family was Abdulsalaam Abubakar's colleague in that barracks back then, in charge of transportation.

That said, if you read my so-called epistle from the first post, you'd have seen where I talked about Abdulsalaam ranking on becoming head of state,meaning the Lt General position was skipped and he became full general( to fit into that office of head of state). I never said he was ever commissioned a Lt General as you posted in response. I was harping on seniority when I said oseni even became a Lt General ahead of Abdulsalaam( he got there before the rank was skipped for Abdulsalaam), not that he was ever commissioned a Lt general. Grammar can be complicated at times, except when expatiated

Truly here's a public forum where nobody knows anyone. You dont know me as well, just as I dont know you. Let's leave it that way. Gd morning

AndroBlaze:
Bro,we are not fighting (or disagreeing apparently ), thanks for your contribution.

As for the incident you talked about that delayed his rise in the army, I knew about it already as Bamaiyi had already made it public in his book where he actually stated it was a proper court martial Abdusalami faced for stealing earlier in his career.

Anyway, since you reminded me about Bamaiyi's book, it is important to note that when the meeting to choose the Head of State started properly, Bamaiyi states he was the one that stood up and nominated Abdulsalami, so that should put to rest the question of seniority regarding Bamaiyi and Abdulsalami despite the difference in ranks.

Eriokanmi:
Fight kee, nope. Na you mention stealing oo, no be me. I've been trying to avoid mentioning the offence he committed. Please where can I find Bamaiyi's Book and what's the title? I didn't know it was mentioned elsewhere. Thanks.

AndroBlaze:
The title of the book is "Vindication of a General".

But instead of reading the whole thing you can read this media article that has excerpts and covers everything we discussed.

https://www.tori.ng/amp/58934/how-an-exconvict-gen-abdulsalami-became-head-of-st.html