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| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by chidiokay: 2:24pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Watcharena:The entire FDI of china to africa is Not up to the Donations America have made to africa show us capital flight of china from Africa to juxatapose your " narrative" Across all IDP camps in africa you will find America support, no china presence, Incase you forgot Covid 19 spread from china, what was china support or assistance to the world then instead it was America that largely donated across the world, check America donation to Nig n please tell us china as donated more When we speak of illegal mining china dominates and they are main culprit in Nigeria, the question here is can you separate illegal mining from colonialism syndrome |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Reloadedisraelp: 2:31pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
China using Africa country to develop theirs with loan..... Them go borrow u with useless condition con drill ur resources join....by the time dey finish with Africa countries na only skeleton go remains..... |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by safarifarms(m): 2:35pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Is it really investments or loans? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by dappydozzy(m): 2:37pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Immatex:China never colonized any African territory in the past, so it cant be called recolonization process, that can only be said of the West. All these investments are economic partnerships if you are pleased with the terms. China wont meddle with your national sovereignty in order to exploit your resources. That's why Taiwan issue pains them, Taiwan is Chinese territory but some countries twist history in order to serve their national interests,. Do unto others, what you want them do to you, a saying from Confucius, his philosophy is the guiding thought and compass of Chinese society. China has never being a colonial power and it will never be. They resisted colonialism with their resilience and they came out stronger as a nation. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Amalekki: 2:41pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
wellmax:You and who? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by uniquetechng: 2:43pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
wellmax:You don't have any idea how much those countries including Nigeria receives from the US annually. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Amalekki: 2:47pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Leonardo4:They have used all the grant to develop personal bank accounts and properties in choice locations across Nigeria. Even at non-governmental level we know of many with real and fake PhDs and other qualifications who have pocketed US grants and forming self-made multi-millionaires with scam projects. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by uniquetechng: 2:48pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
ElSudani:In treasures not loans, try to understand the difference. China has $180m investment in Nigeria according to the report, while US has given $919m in aid to Nigeria this year alone. Grants are different from loans, try to know the difference. Bill Gate alone has spent on $14bn in Nigeria in the last decade alone. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by owobokiri(m): 3:29pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
runningriot:If the West you are campaigning for are that good, those projects would have been done long ago. You have been with the West for over 500 years, what are the gains? How many projects were done here altruistically? China gives loans and does the projects? And so? Britain should have done those projects long ago nefore the Chinese ventured in. France is looting the whole French west Africa as we speak. China has built airports, railways, train stations, power stations, endless highways, name them. Where are the projects done by the British and the French!? Name them here. I am waiting.. How many African leaders have been assassinated by the West? Name one African leader killed by the Chinese government... I am waiting.. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Goldforever: 3:56pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Even in usa there is China town |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Rollins777(m): 4:00pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Burkina faso not there |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 4:07pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Immatex:This lie again! As a country, Nigeria owes China the most as a single lender, but overall, our debt owed to the Chinese is less than ten percent of our entire debt obligations. Also, it's a lie to say China is trapping African countries with excessive loans. See here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-06/nigeria-owes-more-money-to-china-than-any-other-country-chart?embedded-checkout=true And here: https://www.ntu.edu.sg/cas/news-events/news/details/breaking-the-myth-of-chinese-debt-trap-in-africa |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 4:12pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
chidiokay:Yes, corona virus originated from China, but the West actually kicked against sharing the intellectual property behind their vaccines until pressured stepped up and India was capable of producing vaccines. China later shared its vaccines to interested African countries. In Nigeria, more jobs and investments have been created and made by Chinese owned investors compared to Western owned. States like Kaduna, Kogi, Nasarawa, Ogun, Ondo etc., would have been worse if not for Chinese investments. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by michoim(m): 4:19pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
That is Chinese investment not free gift. But U.S.A. aids/free gifts alone are even far more than Chinese business investment!!! |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by chidiokay: 4:47pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Gerrard59:if its unfair and wicked to protect " intellectual property" we wont have copyright nd patent law .. the bigger good is findings solution and distributing freely indian, china name it come with vaccines strictly for profit making, go to IDP camps and see for yourself 90% of free material there are from America Your china Your india ... dont do free but " sales" The most potent vaccines the world have today is supplied by america, i stand to be corrected Its true chinese are largest investors in Nig, Buh its transactional as a matter of fact the chinese aint helping our economic cos of automated capital flight there profit dont stay here The pooriest working condition is from the chinese, poor renumerations and poor welfare packages for Nigerians employed, chinese are not doing us a " valid" favor cos they expliot us more Like i said, as you posted china FDi in Nigeria, please post china Capital flight then let's compare with America's donation/grants to Nig. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by amazingspiderma: 5:22pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
owobokiri:And some how you have worked for a Chinese company. China that is not at peace with any of it's neighbors. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by amazingspiderma: 5:24pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Gerrard59:Which beer palour do you get your news from? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 5:28pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
chidiokay:Agreed. I forgot to mention my preference for protecting IP as a motivator for further discoveries. But it is the West that has always played the "we are moral" card. No one expects morality or lovey-dovey from China, Russia or even India. Those ones say it as it is. So, when the lovey-dovey West decides to behave otherwise, it raises eyebrows. Is there anything wrong with strictly eyeing profits? No, but don't be hypocritical about it. One major reason many Africans like the Chinese is their straightforwardness. You already know what they want, and they are not interested in how you run your country or culture. Not a loan today, then ask the country to enshrine LGTV. indian, china name it come with vaccines strictly for profit making, go to IDP camps and see for yourself 90% of free material there are from AmericaSee above. But hey, AstraZeneca and Moderna made a lot of money from COVID-related treatments to the extent that the latter had to shed jobs when everything subsided. Nothing is free in today's world. The most potent vaccines the world have today is supplied by america, i stand to be correctedAgreed. Its true chinese are largest investors in Nig, Buh its transactional as a matter of fact the chinese aint helping our economic cos of automated capital flight there profit dont stay hereWhy should it not be transactional? Don't they pay taxes? Employ people? Why should a business not be transactional? Nigerians who are now flooding China, do they go there for charitable purposes? Why should it be different from the Chinese? Of course, profits should be repatriated to the origin or wherever the owners deem fit. Why should Chinese profits remain in Nigeria? Are Chinese Nigerians? There are Nigerians working in different parts of the country, and when they make the money they desire or as they make it, they send the bulk or everything to their ethnic region via building houses, opening newer branches, etc. Why should it be different from the Chinese? A major reason many Western companies closed shop in Nigeria was because of the exchange loss when profits were repatriated to their HQTRs. Why should the Chinese be different? Storing capital in Nigeria is the business of Nigerian entrepreneurs. Something Dangote does or whether he has fully moved his capital base to Dubai in the name of Family Office. The pooriest working condition is from the chinese, poor renumerations and poor welfare packages for Nigerians employed, chinese are not doing us a " valid" favor cos they expliot us moreThe "working conditions" are poor, but that is how working conditions are across Asian countries, especially at the nascent stages of industrialisation. The Chinese toiled and toiled to be where they are today. This exploitation talk does not follow because there are clear choices: work or don't work for the Chinese. Poor remuneration isn't a Chinese thing. It is an overpopulation thing. Salaries are low in Indonesia, India and Vietnam. Good enough, they pay on time because we have more Nigerian entrepreneurs who owe or short-change their staff. No be Nigerian HRs dey ginger foreigners not to pay standard wages and provide full benefits to their fellow Nigerian workers? Like i said, as you posted china FDi in Nigeria, please post china Capital flight then let's compare with America's donation/grants to Nig.Again, capital flight does not follow. Abuja is not Beijing. Foreigners have no obligation whatsoever to store their profits in Nigeria. On top which currency sef? As for donations, aids do more harm than good. No country developed on the basis of aids. They did via FDI. I have read how Malaysia is attracting both Western and Chinese capital into its rare earth sector. Indonesia did the same with bauxite and copper. Zimbabwe and Guinea-Conakry are doing the same. Dambisa Moyo, in her book Dead Aid, wrote about it. She has degrees from elite institutions in the West and has been a fervent defender of the West, its policies and values, but had a re-thought. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 5:30pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
amazingspiderma:The same Internet you used to type this statement, please use it to compare the value of FDI by the Chinese and Americans into those states I listed. Tell us which country has more industrial estates in those listed states. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by CaseSensitive(m): 5:52pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Immatex:There are Chinatowns in major cities in the UK, USA, Canada etc. Now what? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by chidiokay: 6:11pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
[quote author=Gerrard59 post=137427146] Agreed. I forgot to mention my preference for protecting IP as a motivator for further discoveries. But it is the West that has always played the "we are moral" card. No one expects morality or lovey-dovey from China, Russia or even Indp. Those ones say it as it is. So, when the lovey-dovey West decides to behave otherwise, it raises eyebrows. Is there anything wrong with strictly eyeing profits? No, but don't be hypocritical about it. One major reason many Africans like the Chinese is their straightforwardness. You already know what they want, and they are not interested in how you run your country or culture. Not a loan today, then ask the country to enshrine LGTV.All i see is you "stressing" Grammar, how do you posit Africa is in love with china considering the queues at America embassy , how many people you know personally hustling for china passport or citizenship its funny how guyz like you come up with some reasoning .. do you know how many blacks/families benefited from US visa lottery DV, who china help See above. But hey, AstraZeneca and Moderna made a lot of money from COVID-related treatments to the extent that the latter had to shed jobs when everything subsided.Nothing is free even in free town buh still you dont have point here, cos America has the most record of donation and grants across the world. FIY Agreed.0Nothing is wrong in " transactional" Buh why you are trying so hard to " Demonize america that is both an investor and help support to Nigeria is what i questioned Of course, profits should be repatriated to the origin or wherever the owners deem fit. Why should Chinese profits remain in Nigeria? Are Chinese Nigerians? There are Nigerians working in different parts of the country, and when they make the money they desire or as they make it, they send the bulk or everything to their ethnic region via building houses, opening newer branches, etc. Why should it be different from the Chinese? I doubt you understand the rate at which chinese go about " capital flight" they are the biggest gainer in All ... so dont tell me to hate US and luv china for what ?? who they help whats there record helping nations in crisis zero. A major reason many Western companies closed shop in Nigeria was because of the exchange loss when profits were repatriated to their HQTRs. Why should the Chinese be different? Storing capital in Nigeria is the business of Nigerian entrepreneurs. Something Dangote does or whether he has fully moved his capital base to Dubai in the name of Family Office.Your arguement here is needlezz, whats the point of bring up china against Country like America ... what are you hoping to achieve or just assume Nigerians are gullible. if america strike terroist you believe china will fight America because of decesed terrorist please google how much china make from export to Us .. please keep to matters in your level
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| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by VanuatuWycombe: 7:59pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
China’s investment in Morocco is because of Europe’s potential sanction against China’s manufacturing inside Europe. Investment in other African countries is for our raw materials and selling back finished goods to us. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Lekan239(m): 8:09pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
nnachukz:see as you dey shout free free. Make free things no later kill you. U to like free things, haba. Fee things dey porgy belle o. There is no free food even in Freetown o |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by sulaak(m): 9:46pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Watcharena:Africans a mindset of victims |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by DeOTR: 11:01pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
ElSudani:Providing needed infrastructure at what cost? You definitely don't know what China stands for. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by ElSudani: 11:07pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
DeOTR:At what cost? Should they give it to you free of charge? Is that what you expect? Is that how it works? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by emmaodet: 11:23pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Disenfranchised:Yet, we see more impacts in the China $200m in train stations etc to the free US $500m grants Bros.....you too give yourself advice |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by emmaodet: 11:46pm On Nov 10, 2025 |
Gerrard59:I don't know why there is this strong anti-chinese/china among nigerians. They are far better that the west. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by WhizdomXX(m): 1:58am On Nov 11, 2025 |
Immatex:Bro, do you know you actually proved the guy was correct with your post? |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 3:59am On Nov 11, 2025 |
chidiokay:America is an Anglophone country and has been the world's biggest economy for a long time, so it is appropriate to have many Africans, especially from Anglophone countries desire to move to the US. Even though most of us are guilty of it, "hustling for another country's passport" isn't something to be proud of. But that hustling for passports has no basis in our debate here about Chinese investments in Africa. its funny how guyz like you come up with some reasoning .. do you know how many blacks/families benefited from US visa lottery DV, who china helpLol! Going by your name, do you know how many Igbo boys China made today? Bebex got paid from Nwa Boi, entered China without any knowledge of the language to buy goods and today, he is rich. There are many like him across the major markets in Nigeria and West Africa. Today, other ethnic groups and women, especially, are going to the same China. Rwandans who speak Chinese are earning not less than $500 per month as translators for Chinese businessmen in their country. Nothing is free even in free town buh still you dont have point here, cos America has the most record of donation and grants across the world. FIYIt seems we have a different value system. I don't like freebies. I like to work for my own. Say No To Feeding Bottle Mentality Nothing is wrong in " transactional" Buh why you are trying so hard to " Demonize america that is both an investor and help support to Nigeria is what i questionedI am not demonising America, but setting the facts. China invests more in Nigeria and Africa than the US. That is a fact. That is not demonising. Stop putting words into my fingers. That is not a nice thing to do. I doubt you understand the rate at which chinese go about " capital flight" they are the biggest gainer in All ... so dont tell me to hate US and luv china for what ?? who they help whats there record helping nations in crisis zero.Then set up your businesses and keep the capital to yourself. You have no right to restrict capital repatriation. I do agree that the US assists more in times of crises, but I think that is a cultural difference between the superpowers. Your arguement here is needlezz, whats the point of bring up china against Country like America ... what are you hoping to achieve or just assume Nigerians are gullible. if america strike terroist you believe china will fight America because of decesed terrorist. please google how much china make from export to Us .. please keep to matters in your levelI support Donald Trump's calls for the persecution against Christians in Nigeria to stop. My argument is that China has invested and created jobs for ordinary Africans than the US-led West has. The Chinese have done well for themselves, and I am proud of them. I am not pro-China or pro-USA. I am pro-prosperity for African countries and the Black race. So any willing partner is welcome, provided we become prosperous. End. Of. Discussion. |
| Re: China Foreign Direct Investment Flows To 20 African Countries by Gerrard59(m): 4:10am On Nov 11, 2025 |
emmaodet:I am thinking of many reasons such as: 1. China does not do freebies. So for people who are used to free things, embracing the Chinese would be hard. 2. The Chinese have a strong work ethic, an overwork culture and strict adherence to rules. This is not a Chinese thing, but East Asian. Those principles made them who they are today. Many Nigerians find such work conditions to be bad. I can understand. 3. Chinese companies don't pay well. Well, as I have stated, salaries are a function of productivity and population. Our productivity is low and the population is high. Salaries are low in India, Indonesia and Vietnam. We are at the nascent stages of industrialisation. History is replete with such societies with low salaries. The Chinese are the ones investing in that aspect more than the Americans. And we need more factories so we can produce more, and factories' jobs are what our people need, not TikTok influencing. Factories ensure life-long skills and productivity. Nigeria needs jobs; the Chinese bring in capital and technical know-how. I don't get the irritation. 4. Some people are jealous that a different country with its own systems and cultures is pairing up with the US. They never imagined it in their lifetime. 5. They are envious of the Chinese because they believe it should have been them. It is how you mentioned how Angolans prefer Portuguese or White people to Nigerians. They believe na them for dey there. But believing is not the way; you work for it. Nothing is free in life. You work for it. |
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, how many people you know personally hustling for china passport or citizenship