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FreeStuffsNG:
You're the one who should stop the nonsense after admitting that they don't all belong to the palace. The descendants of the owners are alive.

Your claim that owners are dead is preposterous and cloaked in mischievous ignorance because if that's considered then the point of returning it looks unjustified.

The best institution to represent all the parties is government.

If this ownership is not tidied then very soon there will be serious legal issues because the other owners will demand that their family portions be returned. It was the whole village that was ransacked and not only the palace.

Return will only mean returned if the true owners recieve what has been returned or compensated to transfer the ownership to the palace but if it's transferred to government there will be no such legal conundrum.

Like i said, there is no one who can present credible evidence that artifacts where looted from their home during the expedition. And if they have any, they can approach the court to seek redress. However it is common knowledge that most of the artworks were looted from the palace.
Your agenda and propaganda may disagree with the obvious.

Moreover, no Edo person or family will drag artifacts with the Oba of Benin or the palace because he is the custodian of the culture of the people. Only outsiders like yourself that are paid peanuts to spew propaganda online will be asserting a non-existent friction between the Edos and the Oba.

naptu2:
I saw a better video on Twitter yesterday, but I couldn't find it this morning.

Greetings @Naptu2

This is why I like to download functional and very important videos online to my devices "immediately" I get to see them on YouTube and IG because they can easily disappear or be removed by the video uploaders within the blink of an eye. I learned the hard way that overtime, online videos can indeed disappear.


Right BELOW is the video that I saw in my YouTube timeline yesterday of the White diplomats from the EU who came for the exhibition.

Osakhuenorkhodin: All White Men Have Been Evacuated This Is Benin Royal Museum BRM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75_1Kr8nkbc?si=7hsuM2epEgJlaFRe


2] Second, there's another CLEARER Instagram video I also saw with over 500 comments on
@thebeninblogger, titled:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ1wOQ2iM8E/

The moment foreign guests were evacuated from the MOWAA premises.


3] Third, I saw this third video right BELOW today:

Foreign Ambassadors visit Okpebholo and OBA of Benin over MOWAA. Benin Tribe now divided than ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yolqHbEmo9g?si=X8NgPyvl7bixXcfP
Eric voen • Nov 10 2025

Obaseki single most costly goof


Edo can take any bullshit..but don't disrespect their oba


Obakpolo

Lamanii22:
What if the artwork has been duplicated lol 😂

I suspect they are

naptu2:
British media houses are covering this story.

There has been a campaign that the British Museum should return looted Benin and Ife bronzes. However, the museum has refused to return any of the looted African artwork because they claim that Africans cannot maintain them. This has drawn intense anger from many Africans.

Can they maintain them? Let's be frank.

Christistruth00:
Did Oba’s curse stop the British from sacking and colonising Benin?

No insults please, just asking?


When Jesus says Yes no man can say No

The one that said yes in this evil country or which one?.

mecuries:
Where is the lie? Africa (especially Nigeria) has a low maintenance culture. The ones that weren't looted, how does it look like now?

Oga you can speak for yourself.

Ekpekus:
Las las school is not a scam... Otherwise common sense would have informed them that irrespective of the name of the museum, the goal is to attract tourists and give opportunities for all to learn about the Benin heritage and culture.

If you think the name has no impact, then you should be the one to seek common sense.

saddler:
Like i said, there is no one who can present credible evidence that artifacts where looted from their home during the expedition. And if they have any, they can approach the court to seek redress. However it is common knowledge that most of the artworks were looted from the palace.
Your agenda and propaganda may disagree with the obvious.

Moreover, no Edo person or family will drag artifacts with the Oba of Benin or the palace because he is the custodian of the culture of the people. Only outsiders like yourself that are paid peanuts to spew propaganda online will be asserting a non-existent friction between the Edos and the Oba.

Smh.
It's obvious that you are struggling to admit the reality staring you in the face that nobody outside those original owners are behind the tussle .

I have read an independent report on this issue from a reputable international magazine like over a month ago before this current report and the foreign media report was so detailed that it referenced the historic perspective to this tussle.

Like then, there was a power tussle among the ruling elite. The account was that of the tussle between the Obaseki of Benin and the Omon'Oba of that time and some families, especially the Bini ruling elite who are Yoruba who came originally from Ile-Ife like the Omon'Oba descendants, were divided in their loyalty between the Obaseki and Omon'Oba.

If you are from Benin then it's obvious that you are not from the Benin royalty that's Yoruba-descendant or these ruling elite families who came along with Ọmọ Ọba Oranmiyan from Ile Ife to rule Benin and their descendants,including the Omon'Oba, still ruling Benin till date.

You are so ignorant about this issue that you can't see the underpinnings. The current Governor is Esan yet the power tussle even boiled over and the Omon'Oba has lost against the other owners.

Have you asked yourself who Omon'Oba is losing against? PMB was alleged to have instructed that he be given the artifacts . It was not done yet the issue degenerated so bad that he is now being compelled to sign collective ownership or forget about it. The stake is high and others have valid and legitimate claim of owning the artifacts.

Who else would or could be interested in the artifacts if not those who own it and have legitimate claims to it if you reason the issue intelligently.

Las las, if the tussle among the ruling Bini elite don't resolve, the artifacts will be moved to national museum in Abuja or Lagos and revenue from it shared with the Edo state government and the LGAs that the original owners hail from.

saddler:
Finally you are coming out with your tribal agenda.
There are no elites in Edo land that currently claim Yoruba. And i repeat no one is dragging artifacts with the palace/oba.
Carry your yoruba ethnic bigotry go one corner.

You're obviously not one of them

You are probably from the proletariat class of Bini. These Yoruba families say it publicly and wear their Ile Ife ties as a badge of honor till date but you won’t know because you are not from such Bini families.

This kind of discussion is above the kind of idle gbosgbas political sore losers induge in to insult others who use facts decently in debates. I will not respond to you again (I always block uncouth ones like you).

God bless you for this work, I just got surprised that central hospital was converted,don't no what this our leaders are doing, if I may ask is there any other hospital around king square apart from Stella Obasanjo? It's been almost 10 years I visited the city of my birth and growth.

naptu2:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/11/mowaa-okpebholo-revokes-land-title-as-museum-clears-air-on-status/

Coly2012:
God bless you for this work, I just got surprised that central hospital was converted,don't no what this our leaders are doing, if I may ask is there any other hospital around king square apart from Stella Obasanjo? It's been almost 10 years I visited the city of my birth and growth.

So you actually believe the excuse about hospital? Hospital kọ Cemetery ni.

Smh

FreeStuffsNG:
I am not sure that they were properties of the Oba. These were private properties and not all could possibly belong to the palace. It was the whole village that was ransacked and not only the palace.

Some of the descendants of the true owners may be codedly protesting against getting their properties to be confiscated by the Omon'Oba and converted to his private property without the descendants of the true owners receiving credit or compensation.

The Oba doesn't create artifacts nor carve yet descendants of these people are still alive.



Smh.
It's obvious that you are struggling to admit the reality staring you in the face that nobody outside those original owners are behind the tussle .

I have read an independent report on this issue from a reputable international magazine like over a month ago before this current report and the foreign media report was so detailed that it referenced the historic perspective to this tussle.

Like then, there was a power tussle among the ruling elite. The account was that of the tussle between the Obaseki of Benin and the Omon'Oba of that time and some families,especially the Bini ruling elite who are Yoruba who came originally from Ile Ife like the Omon'Oba descendants were divided in loyalty between the Obaseki and Omon'Oba.

If you are from Benin then it's obvious that you are not from these ruling elite families who came along with Oranmiyan from Ile Ife to rule Benin and their descendants,including the Omon'Oba, are still ruling Benin till date.

You are so ignorant about this issue that you can't see the underpinnings. The current Governor is Esan yet the power tussle even boiled over and the Omon'Oba is losing.

Have you asked yourself who Omon'Oba is losing against? PMB was alleged to have instructed that he be given the artifacts yet it was not so bad he is being compelled now to sign collective ownership or forgets about it.

Who else would or could be interested in the artifacts if not those who own it and have legitimate claims to it if you reason the issue intelligently.

Las las, if the tussle among the ruling Bini elite don't resolve, the artifacts will be moved to national museum in Abuja or Lagos and revenue from it shared with the Edo state government and the LGAs that the original owners hail from.

Your anti-Benin/palace stance is well-known, so don't hide behind artifacts to spew nonsense.

Don't use subterfuge to try to cause more confusion.

Pictures of most of the artifacts inside the palace ruins, the day the Western thieves gathered them in 1897 are still available to see.

Many of those artifacts had already adorned the palace and palace shrines for centuries before the 1897 invasion. Forensic tests have dated many of them.

Together, as they were arranged, it was like a library. You could tell who was Oba Ewuare I, Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua, Ehengbuda, etc. And the occasions depicted. Also, the Portuguese and Manilas currency they used at the time, could easily show which era the artifacts depicted.

You people were tenants in Benin in 1897 and some of the artifacts were taken from your house, right?

AreaFada2:
Your anti-Benin/palace stance is well-known, so don't hide behind artifacts to spew nonsense.

Don't use subterfuge to try to cause more confusion.

Pictures of most of the artifacts inside the palace ruins, the day the Western thieves gathered them in 1897 are still available to see.

Many of those artifacts had already adorned the palace and palace shrines for centuries before the 1897 invasion. Forensic tests have dated many of them.

Together, as they were arranged, it was like a library. You could tell who was Oba Ewuare I, Ozolua, Esigie, Orhogbua, Ehengbuda, etc. And the occasions depicted. Also, the Portuguese and Manilas currency they used at the time, could easily show which era the artifacts depicted.

You people were tenants in Benin in 1897 and some of the artifacts were taken from your house, right?

Smh.

You're still being mischievous.

Read a credible report below that confirms that some of those items were not his own and his palace plundered by the same Benin people in order to retrieve their properties from him. Same thing is on display again and if he takes these artifacts, the Benin people will plunder his palace again and retrieve them.



Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi was the 35th King of Benin Kingdom and ruled from 1888 to 1897.

Born in circa 1857, Oba Overami was fabulously rich. According to Boisragon (1897, page 13), ‘the King was supposed to be very rich in ivory, as he received, or was supposed, to receive, one tusk of every elephant shot in his dominions ; but this ivory he seems to have stacked in his houses instead of selling.'

Acting Consul General Phillips wrote this to the Foreign Office in London in November 1896: 'PS I would add that I have reason to hope that sufficient Ivory may be found in the King’s house to pay the expenses in removing the King from his Stool.'

Oba Ovonramwen successfully held out against colonial rule. He evacuated Benin City and neighbouring countryside villages and towns to minimise civilian casualties in the pending British invasion (Benin Punitive Expedition of February 1897).

As recorded by Roth (1897), when Oba Ovomramwen gave himself up on August 7 1897, ‘The king was simply covered with masses of strings of coral, interspersed with larger pieces, supposed to be worth many pounds. His head dress, which was in the shape of a Leghorn straw hat, was composed wholly of coral of excellent quality, meshed closely together. His wrists up to his elbows were closely covered with coral bangles, so were his ankles. He only wore the usual white cloth of a chief, and underneath, a pair of embroidered and brocaded trousers; he had nothing in the way of a coat, but his breast was completely hidden from view by the coral beads encircling his neck.’ (Roth, 1903, appendix 1 p.xiii).

Red Coral is a natural gemstone in the same family as pearl and amber. The excellent quality type that Oba Ovonramwen was covered in, would in today’s price cost up to over £195 per carat. View price heres --->

​Oba Ovonramwen was simply covered in thousands of red coral beads each worth near a thousand pounds. This was Benin opulence on display.

All these were either seized by Mr. Moor or stolen by opportunist locals at the house where he was staying. Oba Ovonramwen on Monday 13 September 1897, before he was sent into exile by Mr. Moor, complained that, ‘his coral, he said, had been stolen by his own "boys." .’ (Roth, 1903, appendix p. xviii)

His kingdom, his palace, his houses and his personal effects were plundered as a result of ​'a new king' in town.

Oba Ovonramwen died in exile in Calabar in 1914.
​
​References
1) Akenzua E. The Case of Benin Memorandum, accessed-http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/
​cmselect/cmcumeds/371/371ap27.htm
2) Boisragon A. Benin Massacre, 1897, p. 13
3) Phillips, J.R. , 17 Nov 1896. Dispatches to Foreign Office from Consul-General, Catalogue of the Correspondence and Papers of the Niger Coast Protectorate, 268 3/3/3, p. 240. National Archives of Nigeria Enugu.
4) Roth H. L. Great Benin, 1903, appendix 11, p.xii
5) Ibid p. xvii
6) Ibid page xviii

FreeStuffsNG:
Smh.
It's obvious that you are struggling to admit the reality staring you in the face that nobody outside those original owners are behind the tussle .

I have read an independent report on this issue from a reputable international magazine like over a month ago before this current report and the foreign media report was so detailed that it referenced the historic perspective to this tussle.

Like then, there was a power tussle among the ruling elite. The account was that of the tussle between the Obaseki of Benin and the Omon'Oba of that time and some families, especially the Bini ruling elite who are Yoruba who came originally from Ile-Ife like the Omon'Oba descendants, were divided in their loyalty between the Obaseki and Omon'Oba.

If you are from Benin then it's obvious that you are not from the Benin royalty that's Yoruba-descendant or these ruling elite families who came along with Ọmọ Ọba Oranmiyan from Ile Ife to rule Benin and their descendants,including the Omon'Oba, still ruling Benin till date.

You are so ignorant about this issue that you can't see the underpinnings. The current Governor is Esan yet the power tussle even boiled over and the Omon'Oba has lost against the other owners.

Have you asked yourself who Omon'Oba is losing against? PMB was alleged to have instructed that he be given the artifacts . It was not done yet the issue degenerated so bad that he is now being compelled to sign collective ownership or forget about it. The stake is high and others have valid and legitimate claim of owning the artifacts.

Who else would or could be interested in the artifacts if not those who own it and have legitimate claims to it if you reason the issue intelligently.

Las las, if the tussle among the ruling Bini elite don't resolve, the artifacts will be moved to national museum in Abuja or Lagos and revenue from it shared with the Edo state government and the LGAs that the original owners hail from.

Finally you are coming out with your tribal agenda.
There are no elites in Edo land that currently claim Yoruba. And i repeat no one is dragging artifacts with the palace/oba.
Carry your yoruba ethnic bigotry go one corner.

dfrost:
Can the government just scrap all these institutions?

They are not progressive in any sense.

Thanks for the clarification, naptu2. Good morning Boss.

The institutions were in existence before the government

2. The governor or government has no business with artefacts. They belong to the palace not museum

Ekpekus:
Las las school is not a scam... Otherwise common sense would have informed them that irrespective of the name of the museum, the goal is to attract tourists and give opportunities for all to learn about the Benin heritage and culture.

In other words Buckingham Palace can be referred to as Ibadan Palace...