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AirBere:
The whole point is that what happened to Nico is a very normal occurrence in football. Very very normal. A player who had the potential to play but couldn't play, went on loan or was outrightly sold only to achieve greatness elsewhere. E dey happen and it's completely normal chief.

Nico Gonzalez, Saliba, Samuel Eto'o, Hakimi, Guehi, Palmer, Thiago, Cole Palmer, Gerrard Pique, KDB, Salah etc....

I'm still lost. What are you saying that is at odds with anything I have said?

Where do we disagree?

Android17:
I'm still lost. What are you saying that is at odds with anything I have said?

Where do we disagree?

One day, I'll share how we basically stole him from Barca due to Xavi's carelessness.


That's where we disagree even though I quoted the wrong post to buttress my point.

Nico wasn't stolen, he had the potential but was simply not good enough at the time and was behind better players in Dejong, Pedri and even Gavi. He's still behind Pedri and Dejong so leaving was the best thing to happen...

Like many players before him, he went on loan, eventually sold outrightly and is about to achieve greatness elsewhere, this time at Citeh.

His situation is not a unique occurrence but a very normal thing in football and will continue to occur. That's the whole point!

AirBere:
One day, I'll share how we basically stole him from Barca due to Xavi's carelessness.


That's where we disagree even though I quoted the wrong post to buttress my point.

Nico wasn't stolen, he had the potential but was simply not good enough at the time and was behind better players in Dejong, Pedri and even Gavi. He's still behind Pedri and Dejong so leaving was the best thing to happen...

Like many players before him, he went on loan, eventually sold outrightly and is about to achieve greatness elsewhere, this time at Citeh.

His situation is not a unique occurrence but a very normal thing in football and will continue to occur. That's the whole point!

I am not sure you understood my post.

AirBere:
One day, I'll share how we basically stole him from Barca due to Xavi's carelessness.


That's where we disagree even though I quoted the wrong post to buttress my point.

Nico wasn't stolen, he had the potential but was simply not good enough at the time and was behind better players in Dejong, Pedri and even Gavi. He's still behind Pedri and Dejong so leaving was the best thing to happen...

Like many players before him, he went on loan, eventually sold outrightly and is about to achieve greatness elsewhere, this time at Citeh.

His situation is not a unique occurrence but a very normal thing in football and will continue to occur. That's the whole point!

So if a coach sold Yamal for not being ready to compete with Lewandowski and Ferran but then said Yamal becomes the best right winger in the world, the coach wasn't careless? Even though said coach clearly misprofiled the player?

This is not the same as letting E'too go to Mallorca because you preferred Morientes or Raul. Can you see the difference?

The coach that ignored this but instead considered the player in a more advanced role wasn't careless?

airmark:
Seeking your attention or dragging you in the mud with Fofana's return and improvement of the defence.

**ignored**

Kilishihunter:
When it comes to defensive midfielders your body dey hot.
I wonder the number of innocent careers you for don scatter if you be maybe coach or sporting director, na so busquets for chop loan tired till he finally gets a resting place at las Palmas under you. Thank God say them give you caicedo to suit your self.

I actually like Nico. You know me, I like DMs to have some speed for recoveries when shut breaks down

Android17:
The coach that ignored this but instead considered the player in a more advanced role wasn't careless?

Didnt Barca insert a buy-back clause abi na another Nico we dey talk about here?

Jamiuokolaa:
Didnt Barca insert a buy-back clause abi na another Nico we dey talk about here?

They did but because they knew they were selling him for dirt cheap to Porto. Like I said, Barca believed in him but were hurting financially and needed to sell off players. But Xavi's carelessness was in misprofiling Nico. Xavi saw him as not capable of replacing Sergio and of course, that meant he was competing with players for that 8 role that were better than him. Had Xavi considered him a potential 6, he wouldn't have gone for Romeu who ended up being a bust. That has been my point. Xavi misprofiled the player.

Edit: it was more of a sell-off clause.

Android17:
So if a coach sold Yamal for not being ready to compete with Lewandowski and Ferran but then said Yamal becomes the best right winger in the world, the coach wasn't careless? Even though said coach clearly misprofiled the player?

This is not the same as letting E'too go to Mallorca because you preferred Morientes or Raul. Can you see the difference?

So very similar to how Mourinho let KDB and Salah go.....

Nico wasn't stolen chief and his situation is not unique at all. Coaches constantly make decisions based on what they feel is best for the team. Some work, some don't. He would've turned to Sergi Samper or Oriol Busquet and other lamasia players had he stayed. Best thing was leaving whether Xavi misprofiled him or not, he had to leave. Even as a DM, he was not gonna start ahead of Dejong at Barca. As an interior, Pedri clears him. He had to go!!!

Whichever way sha.....that's that. 😴

AirBere:
So very similar to how Mourinho let KDB and Salah go.....

Nico wasn't stolen chief and his situation is not unique at all. Coaches constantly make decisions based on what they feel is best for the team. Some work, some don't. He would've turned to Sergi Samper or Oriol Busquet and other lamasia players had he stayed. Best thing was leaving whether Xavi misprofiled him or not, he had to leave. Even as a DM, he was not gonna start ahead of Dejong at Barca. As an interior, Pedri clears him. He had to go!!!

Whichever way sha.....that's that. 😴

How can it not matter that a player is misprofiled if the so-called replacements have since left the club as failures? Meanwhile, Xavi also misprofiled Dejong and played him in advanced roles multiple times. But I digress.

I think you're comparing Apples to Oranges in this post. Which is exactly why you've been replying me a little off tangent. For e.g Mourinho didn't misprofile Salah or KdB. He simply preferred others for the same role. That is not the point being made.

AirBere:
One day, I'll share how we basically stole him from Barca due to Xavi's carelessness.


That's where we disagree even though I quoted the wrong post to buttress my point.

Nico wasn't stolen, he had the potential but was simply not good enough at the time and was behind better players in Dejong, Pedri and even Gavi. He's still behind Pedri and Dejong so leaving was the best thing to happen...

Like many players before him, he went on loan, eventually sold outrightly and is about to achieve greatness elsewhere, this time at Citeh.

His situation is not a unique occurrence but a very normal thing in football and will continue to occur. That's the whole point!

Na that we stole him from Barca me I no understand gan gan 😂

Jamiuokolaa:
Didnt Barca insert a buy-back clause abi na another Nico we dey talk about here?

A sell on clause of about 25/30 percent

No buyback clause

For Nico G's potential, he is a steal. If comprehension isn't your strong suit, ask people to explain things to you.

If the assessment of a player is like this, will you let him leave for cheap? No.

If any manager truly believed any player had potential to be Rodri or Busquets, will they misprofile him & play him in roles both players don't play in?

Read the comments under this post from BARCA fans. Look at the date. Many of the Barca fans there despised Xavi for doing this. But today, I'm now told Barca fans don't remember him and that I made lies up. You people actually think every one is here to drink low quality information and spew lazy takes.

LOL

andrewbaba44:
A sell on clause of about 25/30 percent

No buyback clause

??

Jamiuokolaa:
??

Okay a buyback clause too but we didn’t activate it or so

Android17:
How can it not matter that a player is misprofiled if the so-called replacements have since left the club as failures? Meanwhile, Xavi also misprofiled Dejong and played him in advanced roles multiple times. But I digress.

I think you're comparing Apples to Oranges in this post. Which is exactly why you've been replying me a little off tangent. For e.g Mourinho didn't misprofile Salah or KdB. He simply preferred others for the same role. That is not the point being made.

Chief, nobody steal Nico ooo lol. What happened to him is very normal at professional footie lol.

The buzzword you're using to drive home your point is "miss profile" but the fact is that he wasn't stolen. The coach at the time (Xavi) just didn't rate Nico both as a DM and as a CM and quite rightly so. As we speak, he's not better than Dejong(DM) and Pedri(CM) meaning had he stayed, he'll just be bench piece like them Casado, Bernal and co. Leaving was the best thing that happened to him and his situation is pretty normal in football. Not unique at all.

These are just facts. I mean players like KDB, Salah, Palmer, Eto'o, Guehi, Nico Gonzalez, Hakimi, Pogba, Thiago, Pique, Saliba all had to leave in order to achieve their potential elsewhere. Of course some returned home.

Talk about misprofiling....
1. Nico made his professional debut under Koeman and was not rated as a DM....played as interior along with Busquet.
2. Xavi met Nico and didn't rate him as a DM
3. Loan at Valencia, he wasn't rated as DM as Gulimano was always the preferred choice. He was in and out of the team even as a CM.
4. Porto manager didn't rate him as a DM and had Varela as DM. In fact, in most matches, Nico was not even part of the double pivot and was often played as the AM with Verala paired with another CM(Marko Grujic)

At professional level, Nico has played under 4 different managers and only Pep(his 5th manager) rates him as a DM. Of course, I trust Pep's judgement. However, if/when Rodri returns and back to his best, Nico will most likely play alongside him at CM/interior or benched.

Make una carry this talk go Barca or City thread na! You guys are derailing this thread. Haba!

4 pages of Nico, Barca, Girona, City.. Wetin be this?

See screenshots flying around, occupying spaces. THIS IS CHELSEA THREAD!

Carry your arguments to Barca or City thread! Or form a Girona thread and take it there.

timbros:
Make una carry this talk go Barca or City thread na! You guys are derailing this thread. Haba!

4 pages of Nico, Barca, Girona, City.. Wetin be this?

See screenshots flying around, occupying spaces. THIS IS CHELSEA THREAD!

Carry your arguments to Barca or City thread! Or form a Girona thread and take it there.

timbros:
Make una carry this talk go Barca or City thread na! You guys are derailing this thread. Haba!

4 pages of Nico, Barca, Girona, City.. Wetin be this?

See screenshots flying around, occupying spaces. THIS IS CHELSEA THREAD!

Carry your arguments to Barca or City thread! Or form a Girona thread and take it there.

Oya nor vex

Lets go back to the normal way

Chelsea defence is better than the attack...NO?

JACKSON na OTU...agree or disagree?

What happened to wirtz is all over the news? Silentgroper come over here

Android17:
For Nico G's potential, he is a steal. If comprehension isn't your strong suit, ask people to explain things to you.

One good game and Nico is suddenly a steal,where was him at CWC? Where was Nico since the season began?

andrewbaba44:
Nico Gonzalez wey some barca fans no remember ,this one wan force agenda

Agenda onto one game

Where tijjani reijnders dey again?

andrewbaba44:
When we Dey trenches Nico Dey start for us under Ronald koeman at times ,xavi no even rate am ,he wasn’t good enough to start for us ,he struggled at Valencia and developed at Porto

You Dey ask me for evidence for my team again ,you don’t follow my team yet you are capping

My pain ? Anyway Enjoy your imaginary battles ,lmao

FBS:
Gucciboy holding on

Check signature for the full update

Egbon we dey wait for update ooo

Gucciboy:
Agenda onto one game

Where tijjani reijnders dey again?

He is a good player honestly and he has been great refently under pep

But this android guy Dey over do ,and he isn’t on reijnders level self

Gucciboy:
Egbon we dey wait for update ooo

You didn’t pick yamal and the Palmer you picked have been injured and you are topping m

Respect

Gucciboy:
Egbon we dey wait for update ooo

lol

Incoming....