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neonly:
A military personal especially the top one always and have a say definitely
Why do u think they give them
House
Cars
Steward
Adc
Those kind of people are taken care for live because of national security info at Der disposal
U can't mess with them

descarado:
Yes especially those at the top. Nothing changes except they are retired and no longer in active service

ambale:
He who comes to equity must come with clean hands, Wike has been accused of forcefully grabbing peoples properties in time past with the presidency not doing anything and if there's one thing about Nigeria it is precedence

After Wike many of those lands he revoked,will be revoked again

But my own concern was that he shouldn't have shown up there, meet with the current hierarchy of the military or even involve the president, but he loves to act like no one fit enter am

Now them don put an for him body and we are all happy 😁

buygala:
That's not the issue at hand

In any case if nothing changes for them even after retirement like you said, why are some of them not in Damboa and Baga commanding soldiers facing ISWAP and ISIS?

Please let's not start a discussion we cannot finish

descarado:
Tell that to the politicians. Has nothing to do with them.
The moment the politicians want these to stop, they know what to do especially Mr President.

buygala:
In other words, you have no response to the question

That's ok

buygala:
A whole lot has been said about Wike's Drama with that Navy Officer on a landed property in Abuja

buygala:
You have still failed to answer the questions raised?

Can a Military officer, retired or not (regardless of rank) override the Commander-in-Chief's direct representative ?

Simple and short

Nextjs:
https://www.nairaland.com/8559443/how-fct-minister-wike-revoked

MEGAWATCH:
Before you ask this question, kindly tell us the commander in chief you are talking about?

Because if you are referring to the event of yesterday, we all know that Wike is not the commander in chief of the federal republic of Nigeria.

Justnation:
Once a General, always a General.
Every military officer retire with their ranks, it is only in operational or administrative situations that they cannot issue a direct command

buygala:
You obviously failed to read this thread's original post

Read it again, with your eyes and brain open

If you won't, then you are beyond help

Brendaniel:
When we tell some of you that the system needs to work for everybody regardless of status, religion or tribe, some of you think we don't know what we are saying....

If you as a human being see no wrong with what Tinubu is doing to Nigerians, what Sanwo Olu and the Yorubas are doing to the Igbos in Lagos, what MNK is going through, what the south east is going through from the northerners and the Yorubas, the brutality of the police and military guys on Nigerians, the illegal EFCC raids on peoples homes in the night whether yahoo boys or not and you are coming to write this, then you are only deceiving yourself...


I've said this thing over and over, when you have a system that selects who to work for or against at different times based on whatever reason then that system can equally do the opposite for the same people.

Shebi Wike has always been oppressing people even killed youths in his state, the system was in his favour to do injustice to others, now the same system could not fight for him at that point and worked against him.

That's why I laugh at those who are laughing at those and mocking those who they rig election against and call them losers or those who laugh at those unjustly arrested for trying to do right thing, tomorrow do they know what that same system the are supporting may do to them?

MEGAWATCH:
I'm reacting to your statement mentioning the commander in chief, what was the need of bringing it into the discussion?

Must you play on people's emotions to have your way?

buygala:
A whole lot has been said about Wike's Drama with that Navy Officer on a landed property in Abuja

Even a former Chief of Army Staff General Buratai (rtd) has weighed in ,calling Wike's action a threat to national security ...This is not the time and place for me to say what I think of General Buratai and his stint as Chief of Army Staff...But i can guarantee you that they are not palatable thoughts...

Now the questions that some of us want answers to are these:

1...Does a retired officer (in this case the retired Chief of Naval Staff) have a right to still issue valid orders to a soldier, much less to issue such orders to override a serving Minister of the Federal Republic?..Moreso that the Minister in this case is the Minister of the FCT, who unlike any State Governor, is a direct appointee of the Commander-in-Chief?

2..What is a soldier doing guarding a property that is not a designated property of the Nigerian Armed forces, or even a subject of national Interest, even to the extent of refusing the Chief FCT administrator (A representative of the C-in-C) into said property?

3....As Wike was appointed FCT Minister by the President who is the C-in-C and not elected like other Governors, doesn't that mean he is until proven otherwise, standing in the C-in-C's stead when he went to that property?...Then what right does a retired Officer (regardless of rank held) to issue orders restricting the representative of the C-in-C from entering said property that is neither a military installation or a place of designated security interest?

At this point, I think the Armed forces have overstepped their bounds, regardless of Wike's behavior which is a topic for another day...No serving officer, much less a retired one has any right to stand in the way of any representative of the Commander in Chief, as same is tantamount to a coup/Mutiny...

What happened yesterday in Abuja to Wike, is to call a spade a spade, a Mutiny directly against the President who appointed Wike to oversee the FCT administration...Simple and Short ...For all intents and purposes it's as if that youngling officer stood in the way of the President when he came to inspect that property..

And Yes... That officer needs to be immediately court-martialled for Mutiny and that his retired oga who sent him dealt with to the full extent of the law...These people need to be made an example of, especially in light of the recent coup allegations flying around...

A retired officer's orders overriding that of the President's representative is to say the least, outright madness, which if not nipped in the bud, will set the tone for other officers, retired and serving to question and override functions of the President's Direct appointees, constituting themselves into an authority above even the President

JealousCobra:
Forget grammar, it is what it is , lawlessness by our politicians at it's peak.

In as much as I frown at Nigeria military but then, Op ur question should be how did our the C in C got to that position including Wike, if not through mutiny to the conscience of millons of Nigerians.🫤🫤



Abegii.

buygala:
In other words they can issue orders against bloody civilians, which even includes the Commander-in-Chief and his direct representatives


The truth is finally coming out

BrokenTV:
Wike acted in his own personal capacity, if that is the case all ministers will be giving command to military officers to carry out, military only takes order from their superior hierarchy, the only people that supersides that is the President and Defence chiefs.

descarado:
Yes especially those at the top. Nothing changes except they are retired and no longer in active service

KingAzubuike:
You don't have to be the one issuing a direct command.
You can tell your junior( a commisioned junior to you) your predicament and he will do your bidding.

Moreover brig gens and it's equivalent in the airforce and navy always retire with ordelies and details assigned to them for life. You can give them orders.

Even retired NCOs like MWO,WO and Sgt can use soldiers to harass you not to talk of a retired General.