₦airaland Forum

gassbee:
and do u think it is ok for uniform men to disobey a governor or a minister

then dey should change the constitution.

Barzinime:
Where do you get your information from?
This is not a military government!
Can’t blame either party, Nigeria is a lawless state.

then tell me where an army officer disobey the last order and go scot free.

See who is talking. People who were in the fore front of what Nigeria is passing through now. Mtwwwee

Nigerian is a lawless state, where LAW is selective. Everyone does as he/she pleases. Noone follow any law in Nigeria except the law of rascality where anything goes...

Newsgeek24:
https://verynigerian.com/wikes-clash-with-naval-officer-a-threat-to-national-security-buratai/

NothingDoMe:
If the land belongs to the military, then the land is a federal government entity, of which the Land Use Act clearly states that governors have no control over federal lands.

And if the said land had been illegally acquired and possessed,so the Governor / as FTC Minister -has no authority to reverse such illegality because he is a Former' Army Commander,abi?
True,most of those Battles Wike is Fighting in Abuja today are those of ILLEGALITY -ON EVERY AREA OF ABUJA METROPOLITAN,BUT BECAUSE HE IS STEPPING ON THEIR TOES,MANY GAULIBLE AUDIENCES WILL NOT SEE THAT!
Please 🥺,tell us more!

BetterScottish:
Just dey rush dey type gibberish and jargons..calm down, switch on your No⁶

E dey pepper you that your candidate cannot win a free and fair elections.

E go pepper you die!

Reference:
That is the point.
People chose what to see, a perspective that suits them at the point of expediency. But you cannot build a country of laws that way.

If you want the military out of your lives then like other societies draw boundaries. Do you see the military on the streets of other societies doing PPS, doing police work, doing vigilante...

What are the laws concerning the military owning property. What are the laws about senior military men and post service privileges. These are the questions to be answered.

Because authority is conferred on the basis of the law, not grandstanding. And these laws should be clear to everyone, even the man on the street. The average American knows where the average military man's authority begins and ends. Do you know concerning yours.

Is it not worrying to you the deaths and destruction caused by inter security clashes on a regular basis for decades now. Why hasn't these issues been resolved by the law. No one cares till another happens.

And here you are insinuating politics because of what is happening today, once again because of the individuals involved.

this is prating. I don't think you fully understand the situation at hand. You're latching on to a general matter into this district peculiar case.

Of course Donald Trump has deployed the national guard ok the streets of several states given the nature of violence. Nigeria also had same laws granting the president the right and powers to deploy the military with the approval of the NA.

Now, if the military uses its personnel as private guards or vigilante, that's illegal and I have held many of such instances in my capacity for redress.


Now if a military man will stop a Minister, being the extension of the presidency from performing his duties because there's vested interest, that's pushing the boundaries and becomes an illegality gone too far.

So don't tell me about the usual nuances we see on a regular bases, that those need to be addressed first before we can talk about this.

It makes no sense.

Freshandfitpod:
You can't use a soldier for private use, both of them did not handle the situation properly. If you cheer the soldiers today, it might be your turn tomorrow.

it point out why the they need to reshape the constitution concerning FCT it should be an electoral position not appointment if the FCT minister was a governor the military personnel wont have disobeyed as the constitutional power of an elected person over shadows them in time of peace

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

You talk recklessly like Wike. And if there is no Nigeria soldier, you think, even, where you are now couldn't have been overrun by your 'highly rated' armed bandits or armed robbers?

Buratai is yapping nonsense. Does Buratai even know who Wike represents? He represents the president

Wike behaved like a tout as always. What was he doing there when he knew there was already a conflict, to go and push away the soldiers?. The right thing would have been to call the COAS or CONS directly from the comfort of his officer and get the issue resolved. He was dishonorable yesterday.

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

There is fire on the mountain. Lol

The moment d military allowed itself to be polarised was when u lost ur respect. U show power only against civilians while those wielding guns all around are pampered.
If at all d military knew what they are doing, how did they find themselves in protection of land?

princeade86:
but how many times will dey tell you guys that if he disobey his boss order, they can turn it to mutiny? Soldiers only obey Mr president and their top ranking officers. Even ordinary police man disobeyed a whole lagos state governor, not to talk of ordinary minister that was chosen by Mr president by opportunity

He's guarding a property of an ex service military man. That goes too far as far as following orders is concerned. Someone has made himself a scapegoat in all this

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

👏👍,bro,you are so objective,in your analysis,no Party ambivalence,at all.
Others will blame Wike , because of Party politics of hates but they forgot that Wike is the Governor of the FTC Abuja!

owobokiri:
This murderous character talks too much these days..

Wike no be am, we all know. But we don't need a serial killer like Burutai to lecture us on that nonsense about decorum and integrity. Burutai had non of that while active in national life.

Recently, Burutai has been trying to walk back into prominence through the backdoor. That should stop. Dude is a relic of the past and should be left there permanently, or be transferred to the prisons where he rightly belongs..

Buratai is more than a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. He ordered the killings of minors, women including pregnant ones when the road he was supposed to pass through was blocked for another occasion by Zakyzaky and his followers. So, I'm not surprised by his comment and the side he took, that boy behaved more like him. Buratai believes that military should be untouchable

misreal:
How many times do we need to tell you that a millitary officer doesn't take orders from a civilian, not even the governor of a state.If he disobeys an order,he will be deranked at once.If it's the time of war,he will be killed.
Wike should have asked his superior to speak to him,instead of abusing him.
Only the commander in chief can order soldiers,get this knowledge and rest.

Stop posting this crap all over the places. What authority does a young boy in uniform guarding the property of someone who is no longer in service have to be standing in the way of a serving minister who derives his authority and power from the president? That kind of mentality can only get you fired. The minister will report to the president and the president will tell your superior to query you and you can't escape such unhurt

What is this one saying

Oil bunkers na them
Force acquisition na tham
Sabatoage na them
God bless government oroplolpo

This is nonsense from buratai,the Nigerian military have no business with that issue.

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

Yes, because they are not well armed. USA military is the greatest in the world due to ammunition.

maasoap:
Stop posting this crap all over the places. What authority does a young boy in uniform guarding the property of someone who is no longer in service have to be standing in the way of a serving minister who derives his authority and power from the president? That kind of mentality can only get you fired. The minister will report to the president and the president will tell your superior to query you and you can't escape such unhurt

What crap?.
You know absolutely nothing about how the millitary operates yet you wouldn't humble yourself and learn.
When wike called the chief of defence staff,why didnt the chief of defence staff order the boys out of there?
Simple,a vice admiral remains a vice admiral event hough he is retired.
These things are simple to understand bros

being:
As much as people may not like Wike, it is very irresponsible to be talking to a minister like that. Hw can a ministry or an agency of govt be on enforcement and then u say u follow orders.. however, where wike is to be blamed is his slowness to call d CNS Or CDS to order his boys out. Altogether. It is an embarrassment to the country that a security agency would prevent the work of a representative of govt. This is not much about wike but the chaos of the system. Indeed the c-in-c should actually issue a query to the CNS(since the officer was actually following orders) for allowing his institution to be involved in such lawlessness

I don't think you know what you're talking about. The navy guy was not being disrespectful in any way, Nigerians hav been bred to worship people in power to the point they no longer have dignity for themselves. The minister is a public servant not a king, you as a citizen have the right to stand up to him if he insults you in that manner.
The military guy was following orders, You can argue whether the orders were standing on illegal premise or not, but that's not the business of the one following that order. If Wike has an issue with it he shouldn't confront the one following that order rather he should call the CNS and if he doesn't get a favourable response then he call the president. Wike doesn't have the constitutional powers to order any facet of the military, not even recruits and as a tout and uneducated person as he is, he brought himself down by exchanging words with a lieutenant who was standing on orders.

maasoap:
Buratai is yapping nonsense. Does Buratai even know who Wike represents? He represents the president

The government of nigeria is Not responsible
This can only happen in a country like nigeria
Where the President disrespect the court Orders and constitution

stuffs2002:
You hate Wike so much you failed to see that the office of the minister of the FCT was disrespected.

Wike disrespected the office of the FCT by talking like a motor park tout, he had no decorum and thought he was talking to one of his staffs, unfortunately na soldier you dey talk to

Newsgeek24:
https://verynigerian.com/wikes-clash-with-naval-officer-a-threat-to-national-security-buratai/

Although Buraratai messed up under Buhari,he spoke the truth. Wike needs to be careful about making reckless statements because it can make good intentions look back.

Nevertheless, the FCT minister is the custodian of ALL land in Abuja and so the military is subject to the law.

Thundafireseun:
If that soilder boy sees armed bandits or armed robbers,…, his type will run away

Will wike keep monies of the public kept in his trust..?

So u see, everyone have a role to.play that they will fail to under temptation or fighting pressure

I dont like wike but the military is clearly at fault here they are subordinate to civillian aithority,tgis isnt a military government

E no concern Us

Na family matter.

But Wike should be careful. If these people start a coup, they go remember am first.

dequir:
So the job of a military officer is now to guard a private property?

Where in the world is that one being done besides Nigeria?

And as to Buratai, when is guarding a private property become a national security issue?

Nigeria has become a joke to the world.

Whether it is a job of a military man to guard or not is not be directed to the guy on site. That should be taken up at appropriate level. The guy was assigned to a duty by his superior and he was doing that. Wike cannot go there and harass him, if he has issue with the land, it should be taken up with the owner not with guy. You guys need to learn how to properly handle issue.

Thundafireseun:
I will rather be at the right hand of the Devil than to be in his path….

That solider boy still has to learn

You know nothing about what it means to be a man "under authority" 😎 The young officer has done what any sensible military officer should do.

sweerychick:
Hmm Wike really messed up. His utterances was uncalled for, he just disgraced himself, instead of engaging higher military hierarchy to address the issue diplomatically he felt like a demigod until he met his match.

But again, as much as Wike is an arrogant silly egoistic chump, why is Burutai quick to release a statement? Why hasn't he made a statement against bandits and insecurity in the country then he is quick to release about this incident

Northerners have PHD both in theory and practice for hypocrisy