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Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Bluntemperor: 9:51am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
Sorry but we are no longer under a military dictatorship. In a democracy, the military is subjected to civilian control.

Nobody has the power to deploy soldiers for an internal operation without the approval of Mr. President. So, it is illegal to deploy soldiers to go and be protecting a private land of a retired soldier.

Again, it is illegal for anybody to obstruct FCT officials from carrying out their legitimate duties. If we allow just anybody to use access to military boys to stop government officials from doing their jobs, then we are creating a banana republic.

Finally, all lands in the FCT are vested in the Minister of the FCT. He has the power to allocate and cancel the allocation. If the former CNS is dissatisfied with the decision of the FCT minister, he should approach the court and not resort to self help. Obstructing FCT officials including preventing the minister from accessing the land in such a rude and unprofessional manner is unacceptable. Those soldiers should be made to face disciplinary action immediately.
Please,tell them o👍.
The Civilians are Baba- but because Some -Civilians have messed up through Corruption,then a Military boys or men would be coming to Challenge a Governor of FTC?
What an Arrant Nonsense - and A 'Former 'Naval Officer, still Using A Working ARMY to perpetuate his agenda!
We Say A Big NO!
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by israelmao(m): 9:52am On Nov 12, 2025
franchasofficia:
Army throw something like Christmas light na cheesy


We stand with the military grin
Trouble instingator grin
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by ALTERNATEID: 9:53am On Nov 12, 2025
Heffalump:
Your last paragraph was quite interesting. That's where you nailed it.

Following the law is what matters. For the FCT minister to come out himself to challenge a perceived land intruder is akin to self help and violation of protocol, denigration of his office. He took the matter personal as if he has a vested interest in the land. Any unholy thing could have happened during the altercation. What stops him from approaching the courts for a redress?

In a matter like this, you allow the institutions to handle the situation and not by resorting to "gragra" the way Wike did. The reason I saw this happened is because we are in a lawless society and Wike himself is a law breaker. That could be the reason why the military officer also deployed his men there to checkmate any threats to his interest.
The law has vested the use of force in the hands of state actors. When a citizen encroaches a land use legally, the law allows the government to use force to take it back and even demolish any illegal structure.

So, what happened yesterday was an act of obstructing officials of the FCT from carrying out their duties. That is expressly illegal. If every citizen hires soldiers to prevent government officials from constructing roads, building hospitals, enforcing tax compliance, mining federal resources, administering polio vaccines, clearing drainages etc, we will end up not having a country but a banana republic.

Government owns the land in question and not the firmer CNS. If the former CNS is not satisfied with the decision of the owner of the land, he is the one to go to court and not government. He has no legal title and no amount of soldiers deployed to the land will give him a legal title.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by jerryklopp: 9:53am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
Sorry but we are no longer under a military dictatorship. In a democracy, the military is subjected to civilian control.

Nobody has the power to deploy soldiers for an internal operation without the approval of Mr. President. So, it is illegal to deploy soldiers to go and be protecting a private land of a retired soldier.

Again, it is illegal for anybody to obstruct FCT officials from carrying out their legitimate duties. If we allow just anybody to use access to military boys to stop government officials from doing their jobs, then we are creating a banana republic.

Finally, all lands in the FCT are vested in the Minister of the FCT. He has the power to allocate and cancel the allocation. If the former CNS is dissatisfied with the decision of the FCT minister, he should approach the court and not resort to self help. Obstructing FCT officials including preventing the minister from accessing the land in such a rude and unprofessional manner is unacceptable. Those soldiers should be made to face disciplinary action immediately.[/quote[quote author=LagosOrigin post=137444902]Nobody will discipline the young officer because he was following order from his superior officer.

Nothing will happen him instead he will be elevated to more higher rank because the military are solidly behind him ..

Are you aware that the DHQ has taken the officer side , buratai and other top generals too?

I know you like your oppressors but we don't.
]

Law abiding FCT minister that destroys people's livelihood
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by ALTERNATEID: 9:55am On Nov 12, 2025
udemzyudex:
Ministry of work is not own by the a top military officer.
All lands in the FCT are owned by the FCT administration and vested in the minister of the FCT. He’s the only one that can allocate and revoke titles. He can even revoke the title of Aso Rock if there is a public need to do so not to talk about the land of a retired military officer.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Shawarmagirl: 9:56am On Nov 12, 2025
MaziObinnaokija:
sad if this is your prayer point,better wake up.U are wasting your time on USELESS PRAYER.
It is not a useless prayer. It has started happening already. From the allocation of land to his children and cronies, to buying of multi billionaire Naira houses in US, now this. People have been asking Tinubu to remove Wike but we all know why he's still keeping Wike to help him achieve his dirty political aim in 2027 after which he will boot Wike out like dog.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Firstcitizen: 10:00am On Nov 12, 2025
horlando30:
The Naval officer was wrong on how he executed the illegal order. He should have called the Naval HQ for guidance when the minister showed up. You cant be loyal to a retired CNS at the detriment of current constituted authority.

Although Wike also did not act with decorum. He should have simply called the officer's superiors and reads the riot acts to the officer that obstructing him is indirectly disobeying the c-in-c with consequences and not exchanging words and throwing verbal insults with a junior officer. The officer was just too junior.
The Naval officer was very wrong not to have obstructed further flow of rubbish from that loud mouthed fella with his service pistol grin
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by creativejagaban: 10:02am On Nov 12, 2025
mrvitalis:
So now we want to be a nation of rules ?
Oh we want Institutions to work?

Why could wike not get a simple court order

So because you are a minister you can take any land without court order?
Go and build on third mainland bridge and then expect Sanwoolu to get a court order before he bulldoze you into the lagoo.n grin
Clown grin
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Fujiyama:
dalass:
You should judge a case based on its own merit. This one you posted, we don't know what transpired, we only have their own side not the other side.
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I am judging each case on its merit. Nigerians do know what transpired because the victim sued and the case was headline news at the time. Miss Uzoma Okere (the young girl assaulted by those naval ratings) sued them (and the Navy) and won. The Navy appealed the judgement but I do not know if the appeal was successful. You may search google for updates on how the case ended.

dalass:
I don't support beating women for any reason, but road rage is common where everyone may want to make claims as to their right.

Those ladies should have simply do all within their means to show they're complying with the soldiers, they're lucky they're alive and it happened on a highway in the city, if not, they would have been so dead.
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huh

You are female and you are writing this?

The whole thing was caught on tape and the matter went to court. A judge ruled on the matter and had very harsh words for the navy and their personnel. Their behaviour was indefensible. How can you write this? undecided

dalass:
Those that want to drag rights with soldiers, just write your will first say life don tire dem because many of them are abusers of substance, not in their right minds and just trained to listen only to their Superiors orders. Know that and know peace grin
^^^
undecided

You are blaming the victim and you should know better.

Those navy boys flogged Uzoma Okere with a horsewhip four times because she couldn't get out of their way (in heavy bumper to bumper Lagos traffic). undecided She didn't argue or drag anything with them until they started flogging her for no reason. Fully grown men with guns ended up stripping a woman to her underwear because she couldn't lift her car on her head so their Oga could pass. undecided Do you realize it could be you in her shoes tomorrow?


dalass:
Finally, respect is not always earned. You naturally respect a judge, calling them my Lord, your honor because of their office, so also just respect the security officers in uniform because they are there for Nigeria. You don't need to see their actions individually to determine who is to be respected or not!
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You still don't get it. At the heart of the matter is that Nigerian soldiers don't want respect from the public - what they want is fear.

The difference between the judge and the soldier is that we don't see judges at every street corner demanding respect from the public. In your own words, we naturally respect a judge because of the office he holds. If Nigerians do not naturally respect soldiers, then soldiers need to ask themselves why this is so. Let me repeat: Nigerian soldiers do not want respect - they want fear.

And...people respect judges because of the office they occupy and their private and public conduct. There is a reason members of the public treat corrupt or incompetent judges with contempt!

If soldiers have to keep demanding respect from civilians then it means only one thing: those soldiers know they do not deserve the respect they demand. They know deep down that they are unworthy of what they desire.

Respect is earned - and it is reciprocal.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by favour32(m): 10:04am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
Sorry but we are no longer under a military dictatorship. In a democracy, the military is subjected to civilian control.

Nobody has the power to deploy soldiers for an internal operation without the approval of Mr. President. So, it is illegal to deploy soldiers to go and be protecting a private land of a retired soldier.
Wike is not a person to be respected.
He has no credibility.

Again, it is illegal for anybody to obstruct FCT officials from carrying out their legitimate duties. If we allow just anybody to use access to military boys to stop government officials from doing their jobs, then we are creating a banana republic.

Finally, all lands in the FCT are vested in the Minister of the FCT. He has the power to allocate and cancel the allocation. If the former CNS is dissatisfied with the decision of the FCT minister, he should approach the court and not resort to self help. Obstructing FCT officials including preventing the minister from accessing the land in such a rude and unprofessional manner is unacceptable. Those soldiers should be made to face disciplinary action immediately.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by mrvitalis(m): 10:14am On Nov 12, 2025
creativejagaban:
Go and build on third mainland bridge and then expect Sanwoolu to get a court order before he bulldoze you into the lagoo.n grin
Clown grin
Exactly you are used to lawlessness, now when you met someone who is lawless like you and has matched you... You now want to remember law

Let wike face them lawlessness for lawlessness lets see who wines
Military is already silently angry I know the president won't be stupid
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Glithronix: 10:15am On Nov 12, 2025
I just hope those of you people wey no know law no go dey surprised when the young military boy lose him uniform at the end of the day. grin
By now, all of una no know wetin don dey sup behind, when dem announce the results, that's when una go understand the law and who get power over the land.
Oh, I don forget say na military regime we dey in Nigeria. grin
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by InvertedHammer: 10:25am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
You can be rest assured that bulldozer will pull down that structure and the former CNS will either go home to cry or go to court. This is a battle he can’t win. El-Rufai as FCT minister ordered the demolition of the headquarters of Ministry of works and even the personal house of the then PDP national chairman. So, who is a former CNS that thinks he’s above the law?
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Sebi na Wike go drive the bulldozer himself?

I can guarantee you that Wike is not going back to that property.

This is how Nigeria works---only the law-abiding citizens suffer.

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Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by toolovely(m): 10:31am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
Sorry but we are no longer under a military dictatorship. In a democracy, the military is subjected to civilian control.

Nobody has the power to deploy soldiers for an internal operation without the approval of Mr. President. So, it is illegal to deploy soldiers to go and be protecting a private land of a retired soldier.


It is illegal now to use military personnel to protect private properties....
Same Wike will use the same military personnel to protect his private establishment in port Harcourt whenever there's protests in Nigeria and it won't be illegal....
Again, it is illegal for anybody to obstruct FCT officials from carrying out their legitimate duties. If we allow just anybody to use access to military boys to stop government officials from doing their jobs, then we are creating a banana republic.

Finally, all lands in the FCT are vested in the Minister of the FCT. He has the power to allocate and cancel the allocation. If the former CNS is dissatisfied with the decision of the FCT minister, he should approach the court and not resort to self help. Obstructing FCT officials including preventing the minister from accessing the land in such a rude and unprofessional manner is unacceptable. Those soldiers should be made to face disciplinary action immediately.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by descarado: 10:34am On Nov 12, 2025
NaijaNaWaa:
I’m disappointed that the DHQ stopped at this tepid, coded message instead of issuing very strong warning to the lawless man at FCT.
They did the right thing.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by franugo(m): 10:36am On Nov 12, 2025
oliverwrites:
Wike is a disgrace, a very garrulous human being and a shylock but let's be real, the military has no such rights. Like ALTERNATEID posited, we are not in the military regime. Wike deserved what happened but the military was wrong. It is a fact.
The officer was following a lawful order given to him by his superior, if Wike had an issue, he should have thrashed it out with the superior, not call the officer a fool and raise his voice like he's talking to Lere
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by Father4all: 10:38am On Nov 12, 2025
Defence headquarters are very stupid. So, small boy should be insulting elderly
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by descarado: 10:43am On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
All lands in the FCT are owned by the FCT administration and vested in the minister of the FCT. He’s the only one that can allocate and revoke titles. He can even revoke the title of Aso Rock if there is a public need to do so not to talk about the land of a retired military officer.
All lands in fct are not owned by any fct admin.

I have lands there. Have houses there. Rightly procured with all due process. A lane there has our family name which we pay for yearly.
What has that got to do with fct admin. Na dem dey sell the land sef. Then you go to the local govt abuja municipal for your papers and proper documentations which this young chap said has been done.

When you want to build,you will still pass through them. Stop yapping nonsense.

Have never seen any fct minister that behaves like this. Na so una go dey cheer this man to his death.
Gragragra no be for grave. U guys keep on making things hard for Tinubu. Face politicians and leave military matter. That one pass una power.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by horlando30: 10:43am On Nov 12, 2025
stainzville:
Your first paragraph is out of place.
The officer's directive is very clear (No need for any guidance) and he did his job exceedingly. Failure to carry out that order, he can/will be charged with what we call "disobedience to a particular order". When Wike called the CDS did anything change? Your guess is as good as mine
Listen to your self again. Carrying out order from a retired CNS? Is that even legal. Once the CNS is retired, his order cannot be legal. FCT minister acting on behalf of the president has a superior order.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by descarado: 10:46am On Nov 12, 2025
franugo:
The officer was following a lawful order given to him by his superior, if Wike had an issue, he should have thrashed it out with the superior, not call the officer a fool and raise his voice like he's talking to Lere
Very hard for them to understand. When push come to shove, all these politicians will run away. Na these military men will be left to die securing the country. When all is well they will come back again.
Politicians are simply politicians. Not even a career job
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by horlando30: 10:48am On Nov 12, 2025
stainzville:
Your first paragraph is out of place.
The officer's directive is very clear (No need for any guidance) and he did his job exceedingly. Failure to carry out that order, he can/will be charged with what we call "disobedience to a particular order". When Wike called the CDS did anything change? Your guess is as good as mine
You know the FCT minister is an appointee of the president who is the c-in-c. The person who "retired" his so called boss. He was not wise to blindly follow such order. since the order even came from a retired CNS, how legal was it?
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by descarado: 10:50am On Nov 12, 2025
horlando30:
Listen to your self again. Carrying out order from a retired CNS? Is that even legal. Once the CNS is retired, his order cannot be legal. FCT minister acting on behalf of the president has a superior order.
Fct minister ister is not acting on behalf of any president there. Tinubu did not send him to that land. If tinubu had done that, wike would have proudly stated so. He went on a vendetta mission.
Leave the president out of this.

Defence HQ has spoken. Burutai has spoken and he is retired. Read the handwriting on the wall already.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by horlando30: 10:59am On Nov 12, 2025
Artscollection:
So you think he was there by the orders of the retired guy? The truth is that we don't know what transpired but with my knowledge of abuja real estate ongoing war, I can tell you that wike is arrogantly bringing down houses with no recourse to the law.most of those lands where allocated previously by power by be but the wike of a guy feels like he can change those allocation to favour him or his cronies.
Well, unfortunately this is democracy. If the retired guy has claims to the land he should approach the court and get a valid order. If everybody uses soldier or thugs to settle civil land matters then we are looking at a banana republic.

I can still remember how a military officer returning from deployment with his full uniform and equipments was attrested and pepper sprayed by police in traffic in the US and nothing happened. Soldiers and citizens should learn that in a democracy, the military is under the command of the civilian authority.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by higgs: 11:17am On Nov 12, 2025
A mam who practises impunity and lawlessness should not expect others to respect the rule of law
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ALTERNATEID:
Sorry but we are no longer under a military dictatorship. In a democracy, the military is subjected to civilian control.

Nobody has the power to deploy soldiers for an internal operation without the approval of Mr. President. So, it is illegal to deploy soldiers to go and be protecting a private land of a retired soldier.

Again, it is illegal for anybody to obstruct FCT officials from carrying out their legitimate duties. If we allow just anybody to use access to military boys to stop government officials from doing their jobs, then we are creating a banana republic.

Finally, all lands in the FCT are vested in the Minister of the FCT. He has the power to allocate and cancel the allocation. If the former CNS is dissatisfied with the decision of the FCT minister, he should approach the court and not resort to self help. Obstructing FCT officials including preventing the minister from accessing the land in such a rude and unprofessional manner is unacceptable. Those soldiers should be made to face disciplinary action immediately.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by horlando30: 11:24am On Nov 12, 2025
uniquetechng:
There is no such thing like a too junior officer, Wike as a civilian minister has no right to insult a ranked military officer no matter his rank.
The officer is only answerable to PBAT as the CIC no Wike or any other minister.
Even Trump cannot insult a US Naval officer, NEVER.
Yes, he is too junior. An LT (is a junior commissioned officer rank), he is probably still in his twenties. Even his CNS reports to a civilian (the minister of Defence). This is democracy, in a democracy, all military operates under the civilian control. Like I said wike should not be insulting anybody whether military or civilian. He obviously lacks decorum.

Lol, Trump insulted the chief of defence during his first term. He called him a morron!
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by oliverwrites: 11:50am On Nov 12, 2025
franugo:
The officer was following a lawful order given to him by his superior, if Wike had an issue, he should have thrashed it out with the superior, not call the officer a fool and raise his voice like he's talking to Lere
Such an order can't be lawful, we are not in a military regime. We all can agree to hate Woke, and he is a f*cking tw*t that deserves extreme pain, but we can also agree that what the officer did is wrong. No sugar coating it.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by franugo(m): 12:01pm On Nov 12, 2025
oliverwrites:
Such an order can't be lawful, we are not in a military regime. We all can agree to hate Woke, and he is a f*cking tw*t that deserves extreme pain, but we can also agree that what the officer did is wrong. No sugar coating it.
Why was it not a lawful order?
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by orisa37: 12:08pm On Nov 12, 2025
"We stand with the military",

IN THIS CASE, IT'S INSURBORDINATION TO THE C-IN-C BECAUSE THE MINISTER OF THE FCT IS ALWAYS ACTING FOR HIM.
THE SOLDIER ON THE BUILDING SITE SHOULDN'T HAVE ARGUED WITH WIKE AS THE LAST COMMAND TO OBEY.
IT'S ALL A BOKOHARAM TRAP.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by orisa37: 12:18pm On Nov 12, 2025
YES.
AND OBEY THE LAST COMMAND.
IN THIS CASE, THE LAST COMMAND IS WIKE'S COMMAND ON BEHALF OF THE C-IN-C.
Re: It's an honour to serve in the Military, respect the Uniform - Defence HQs by udemzyudex(m): 12:33pm On Nov 12, 2025
ALTERNATEID:
All lands in the FCT are owned by the FCT administration and vested in the minister of the FCT. He’s the only one that can allocate and revoke titles. He can even revoke the title of Aso Rock if there is a public need to do so not to talk about the land of a retired military officer.
OK tell him to go and revoke the land of ASO rock first then.
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