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Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 10:53am On Nov 14, 2025
DeepSight:
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You must be joking
I'm not joking
Groundnuts have never been a major source of revenue for Nigeria
You can call it the North's modest contribution to our revenue base but as a major revenue source? That's a big fat lie
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 10:56am On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
Indigeneship was one of the pillar arguments used in demanding for independence from the British.

Nigeria for Nigerians was the rallying call.

The indigenes of the land said they want to govern themselves and be left alone to define a future for themselves that will reflect their cultural and historical heritage.

It was on this basis that every nationality in Nigeria was duly accounted for in our constitution.

To be a Nigerian , you must first be part of one of over 300 ethnic nationalities .

So what is wrong in having a state keeping a register of all the indigenous people?

Your Ben Kalu proposed a bill that he has since withdrawn that wanted to do a way with ethnic identity in place of a Nigerian identity. His state of Residency bill attempted to usurp state of origin and thus, ethnic identities.

Let me remind you also that the Nigerian constitution dictates that one can only claim one state of origin even if one is a product of parents from different states.

The beauty in that law was not foreseen until Ben Kalu's bill was presented and was used to have him withdraw it. The original reason for barring anyone from claiming to be from more than one state was to prevent people benefiting from 2 States. But the same law was used to ask Kalu how he can claim state of origin in Abia and benefit from it and still want to use state of residence in places like Lagos to also benefit from Lagos?

You people should learn to respect ethnic identities .
Where did Nigerian Constitution say this?
I've searched but couldn't find
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DomPerignon: 10:57am On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
I do respect ethnic identities, but Lagos’ digital indigeneship policy risks systemic discrimination.

Non-indigenes own over half of Lagos’ real estate, drive the economy, and contribute to federal allocations meant for the state as a whole. Excluding them from access to benefits penalizes those who build and sustain the city.

Globally, countries like Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Malta, and Portugal recognize significant asset holders as bona fide residents — Lagos’ approach is backward, favoring ancestry over contribution.

Federal funds, diversity, and inclusive participation are what make cities thrive. Respecting ethnic identity culturally is fine, but tying economic and social rights to it undermines fairness, investment, and the city’s growth.
That's the point.

Positive discrimination.

Go back to your state and demand your governors roll out social benefits and subsidies.

Your governors are collecting monthly federal allocation that far surpasses what they contributed in the first place.

Go and demand from your governors whom none of you ever hold to account to replicate the social benefits and job opportunities that Lagos Digital Indegenship data system is designed to address.

Always behaving as if you are an orphan with no state.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 10:59am On Nov 14, 2025
Ttalk:
Stick to the Indigeneship story.
Why is it constitutional for SE to observe Monday sit at home.
Constructional for the North to enact Sharia law with Hisbah police.
And unconstitutional for Lagos to digitalised her Indigeneship record system
Don't derail the topic
None of the above is government approved or constitutional.
You are mentioning examples from a separatist movement. Someone thats is of questionable sanity ?
The Hisbah police and the likes are all over Nigeria, Amotekun, OPC ,vigilantes ETC

These are not state sanctioned programs. If these are your evidence. I wont argue with you, because you don't seem to have a good grasp of how things work.
You are arguing based off, since once person has done something wrong.....The whole world should legalize wrongdoing.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DomPerignon: 10:59am On Nov 14, 2025
Kukutente23:
Where did Nigerian Constitution say this?
I've searched but couldn't find
Search under State of Origin
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 11:04am On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
That's the point.
Positive discrimination.
Go back to your state and demand your governors roll out social benefits and subsidies.
Your governors are collecting monthly federal allocation that far surpasses what they contributed in the first place.
Go and demand from your governors whom none of you ever hold to account to replicate the social benefits and job opportunities that Lagos Digital Indegenship data system is designed to address.
Always behaving as if you are an orphan with no state.
Lagos belongs to all Nigerians, not just Yorubas from Lagos — and here’s why.
• Federal assets: The city houses trillions of naira in federal infrastructure — ports, airports, federal hospitals, universities, bridges, and government offices. These were built with national funds, not purely Lagos state resources.
• Maintenance: Much of this infrastructure continues to be maintained with federal allocations, meaning all Nigerians contribute to Lagos’ upkeep, regardless of ethnic origin.

• Economic contribution: Non-indigenes own large portions of Lagos real estate, run businesses, and drive commerce, meaning they are part of the city’s wealth creation.
• Positive discrimination argument is incomplete: Telling people to “go back to your state” ignores the reality that Lagos is a national hub, funded and built by the contributions of the entire country. Excluding non-indigenes from benefits in a city they sustain economically and socially is shallow and ignores systemic fairness.

Tribal ownership of Lagos is a myth. Respecting ethnic identity is fine, but access to benefits in Lagos should reflect contribution and residency, not ancestral origin.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 11:07am On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
Stop spewing trash.
If i have to engage you with my time in a civil discourse, you have to be respectful. I wont respond to this.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DomPerignon: 11:10am On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
None of the above is government approved or constitutional.
You are mentioning examples from a separatist movement. Someone thats is of questionable sanity ?
The Hisbah police and the likes are all over Nigeria, Amotekun, OPC ,vigilantes ETC

These are not state sanctioned programs. If these are your evidence. I wont argue with you, because you don't seem to have a good grasp of how things work.
You are arguing based off, since once person has done something wrong.....The whole world should legalize wrongdoing.
In your SE, public education is not free.

This is one reason that many of your people sent their wards to Lagos state and other SW and SS states to benefit from the free education policy.

Tinubu is on record to be the first governor to pay for both WAEC and JAMB registration forms and that policy is still in place today.

Do you know how many of your people left their states just to enroll in Lagos state public schools so that they can benefit not only from free education but free WAEC and JAMB registration ?

When public schools in Anambra went on strike for close to a year under Pitobi over poor wages despite Pitobi increasing tuition in all public schools by nearly 10 folds, many stranded Anambra students left their state to places like Lagos, Ogun and Delta to benefit from free education.

Don't hold your politicians to account .

Be doing opposition critic in Lagos and states in the SW and SS.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DomPerignon: 11:11am On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
Lagos belongs to all Nigerians, not just Yorubas from Lagos — and here’s why.
• Federal assets: The city houses trillions of naira in federal infrastructure — ports, airports, federal hospitals, universities, bridges, and government offices. These were built with national funds, not purely Lagos state resources.
• Maintenance: Much of this infrastructure continues to be maintained with federal allocations, meaning all Nigerians contribute to Lagos’ upkeep, regardless of ethnic origin.

• Economic contribution: Non-indigenes own large portions of Lagos real estate, run businesses, and drive commerce, meaning they are part of the city’s wealth creation.
• Positive discrimination argument is incomplete: Telling people to “go back to your state” ignores the reality that Lagos is a national hub, funded and built by the contributions of the entire country. Excluding non-indigenes from benefits in a city they sustain economically and socially is shallow and ignores systemic fairness.

Tribal ownership of Lagos is a myth. Respecting ethnic identity is fine, but access to benefits in Lagos should reflect contribution and residency, not ancestral origin.
Dey play.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DeepSight(m): 11:13am On Nov 14, 2025
Kukutente23:
I'm not joking
Groundnuts have never been a major source of revenue for Nigeria
You can call it the North's modest contribution to our revenue base but as a major revenue source? That's a big fat lie
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Oga there is a website called Google. Ever heard of it?

There are AI software called ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, etc.

Try any of these and stop this embarrassment.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by RealityKings1: 11:14am On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
The Kano groundnut pyramids were a major source of revenue for Nigeria from the 1930s through the late 1960s, with their peak commercial influence in the 1950s and early 1960s.
That's true
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 11:15am On Nov 14, 2025
Christistruth03:
Children living in their mothers hometown in Yorubaland are treated as indigenous even if
their father is from elsewhere
It is even a very ancient culture and reason why many kings had a habit of of seeking refuge
In their mothers hometowns

When Oba Adele was deposed from the Throne he went to his mother Hometown
and even became the Acting ruler
Oba Akintoye too did the same when Kosoko was after his life

Even in that Same Lagos Oba Ologunkutere got to Throne of Lagos through his mother Princess Erelu Kuti
Oba Ologunkutere was Ijesha!!!


Do you know that Oba Tejuosho is ruler of his mothers hometown ?
It was his mother who was Princess

Lineage is always through the Father but the children are still given the same acknowledgment as their mother
In their mothers hometown


Two of Oduduwa’s daughters were mothers of the First kings of Yorubaland with Ife Crowns
The mother of Olowu and the mother of first Orangun Ila


Yorubaland honours it’s women o!!
You're mixing different things up
Indigeneship simply means a place where one is a native. The recognise source of one's familial and ancestral identity
Yorubas do not recognise two ancestral lines for their people. They recognise the paternal line as a person's ancestry
What you're describing above is what happens when one is banished or runs away from his fatherland for any reason whatsoever. Settling in one's motherland is not an exclusive Yoruba thing. Even the Binis also recognise such. Even the English royal family had cause to do same in their history.
The point I'm making is that all those you listed does not imply in anyway that Yorubas recognise dual ancestry. For example. Sango is an Oyo indigene till today. I've never heard anyone say he's an Indigene of Bida or any Nupe town even though his mother was Nupe. Same goes for the Olu of Warri. His mother is Benin but he is recognised as being from Yoruba descent even though Warri is culturally closer to the Binis.
Ancestry does not change even if your location changes. There are Ijebus who have lived in Lagos for over 100 years but they still recognise their Ijebu ancestry. Some of them are even indigenes of Lagos but they still claim to be Ijebu. The Oba of Lagos is Bini ancestry even when they have Yoruba matronal descent.
So there's nowhere in Yoruba culture where a man will claim dual indigeneship.
And take note of this. Rulership is by bloodline not indigeneship. Someone of royal blood can become a king anywhere regardless of whether he's indigenous to the place or not. There are multiple examples throughout history
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by isan(m): 11:21am On Nov 14, 2025
Let me see how any igbos person will get his hands on this indigene card 😂😂😂 since they own Lagos
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DomPerignon: 11:21am On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
The Kano groundnut pyramids were a major source of revenue for Nigeria from the 1930s through the late 1960s, with their peak commercial influence in the 1950s and early 1960s.
Pls kindly tell us what your SE contributed to the economy during this period.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 11:22am On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
In your SE, public education is not free.
This is one reason that many of your people sent their wards to Lagos state and other SW and SS states to benefit from the free education policy.
Tinubu is on record to be the first governor to pay for both WAEC and JAMB registration forms and that policy is still in place today.
Do you know how many of your people left their states just to enroll in Lagos state public schools so that they can benefit not only from free education but free WAEC and JAMB registration ?
When public schools in Anambra went on strike for close to a year under Pitobi over poor wages despite Pitobi increasing tuition in all public schools by nearly 10 folds, many stranded Anambra students left their state to places like Lagos, Ogun and Delta to benefit from free education.
Don't hold your politicians to account .
Be doing opposition critic in Lagos and states in the SW and SS.

It seems some people don’t fully grasp how Lagos generates its revenue. Tinubu isn’t “printing money in his house.” A large number of non-indigenous Lagosians contribute significantly to the state’s income , through taxes, business, real estate, and commerce.

So why object if Lagos uses part of that revenue to pay for WAEC or JAMB fees for all children? Everyone has contributed to creating that pool of resources. Sure, some state governors could do better with allocations, but taking a bigoted, xenophobic stance against inclusive benefits is beneath anyone claiming intellectual credibility.


Consider this: if federal government were to take over all federal assets within the state , ports, federal hospitals, universities, offices, federal roads(put a toll on third mainland bridge), the revenue derived from those alone would far outstrip the state’s own internally generated funds. Estates like FESTAC, and many others, were built with federal money. Separating federal from state contributions would cut Lagos’ effective revenue by more than half.

Using state revenue to fund inclusive programs is fair because all residents, indigenous or not, help generate it, and access should reflect contribution, not ancestry.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by malali: 11:26am On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
Pls kindly tell us what your SE contributed to the economy during this period.

I am not from the SE
How do you know i am not a Lagosian ? Because i don't share your bigoted, prejudiced stance ?
I am advocating for all of Nigeria
Where I am from doesn't matter.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by christistruth01: 11:36am On Nov 14, 2025
Kukutente23:
Lies
Ambode's grandparents migrated to Epe
His mother is not from Epe
Sanwo-Olu mother is from Oyo
Ambode is Ilaje
Ilaje are indigenous to Lagos

Sanwo Olu is Ijebu
Over half of Lagos state land Mass belongs to Ijebuland
and Ijebu are indigenous to Lagos


Don’t drag our Homeland with us , we are not dragging your Onitsha with you
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 11:48am On Nov 14, 2025
DeepSight:
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Oga there is a website called Google. Ever heard of it?

There are AI software called ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, etc.

Try any of these and stop this embarrassment.
You've started again. If I ask you to make use of the tools to bring evidence now you'll start blabbing
Hand dey pain you abi you no sabi type
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ezmans: 12:27pm On Nov 14, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
OP, it's obvious that you are dabbling into what you don't know.
Lagos indigenship Certificate is as old as Lagos State itself. It has always been in use for all those things including admission, bursary, employment, filling national character slots meant for Lagos.

If you are being honest, you will admit that your own state has same so drop the hypocrisy wink
In the next 48 hrs lagos will debunk this info
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kdon2: 12:28pm On Nov 14, 2025
MEGAWATCH:
Since we can't have Biafra, we will go for Lagos governor weather you like it or not.


🤔🤔🤔
And that's why we will treat you the way you will understand in Yorubas land.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by DeepSight(m): 12:37pm On Nov 14, 2025
Kukutente23:
You've started again. If I ask you to make use of the tools to bring evidence now you'll start blabbing
Hand dey pain you abi you no sabi type
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It is an abomination for the knight to take on the task of his squire, or for the teacher that of his student, or for the prince that of his servant.
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ttalk: 12:43pm On Nov 14, 2025
malali:
None of the above is government approved or constitutional.
You are mentioning examples from a separatist movement. Someone thats is of questionable sanity ?
The Hisbah police and the likes are all over Nigeria, Amotekun, OPC ,vigilantes ETC

These are not state sanctioned programs. If these are your evidence. I wont argue with you, because you don't seem to have a good grasp of how things work.
You are arguing based off, since once person has done something wrong.....The whole world should legalize wrongdoing.
Someone has done something wrong instead of you to go to court and also address same here you are here beefing Lagos state.

If it were not constitutional is there no single lawyer from SE to take up the matter to court,?

Let me inform you today that in a Federation it is within the law to do all those things. Don't always view things from the viewpoint of Ironsi who in at attempt to dominate abolished independent power of each region and collapse everything into a Unitary formation.

Nigeria have since ceased from such abnormality and true federation is gradually taking its course
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 12:47pm On Nov 14, 2025
christistruth01:
Ambode is Ilaje
Ilaje are indigenous to Lagos

Sanwo Olu is Ijebu
Over half of Lagos state land Mass belongs to Ijebuland
and Ijebu are indigenous to Lagos


Don’t drag our Homeland with us , we are not dragging your Onitsha with you
That Ambode is ilaje does not automatically make him an indigene of Lagos
There are ilajes that are indigenous to Ondo and even Ogun state
That someone is Ijebu does not make them indigenous to Lagos as well
There Ijebus that are indigenous to Ogun while there are Ijebus that are indigenous to Oyo state, ibadan to be precise
You claim to be Yoruba yet you don't even know much about indigenous relationships in Yorubaland
Are you going to say all Yorubas are indigenes of Osun state now?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 12:52pm On Nov 14, 2025
DomPerignon:
Search under State of Origin
I've searched
There's nothing like state of origin under Nigerian constitution
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Ttalk: 12:52pm On Nov 14, 2025
Kukutente23:
That Ambode is ilaje does not automatically make him an indigene of Lagos
There are ilajes that are indigenous to Ondo and even Ogun state
That someone is Ijebu does not make them indigenous to Lagos as well
There Ijebus that are indigenous to Ogun while there are Ijebus that are indigenous to Oyo state, ibadan to be precise
You claim to be Yoruba yet you don't even know much about indigenous relationships in Yorubaland
Are you going to say all Yorubas are indigenes of Osun state now?
Oga Ade there are no Ijebu in Oyo state you only have Ijebu in Lagos and Ogun state.

State the local government in Oyo state where Ijebu are found?
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by MEGAWATCH: 12:55pm On Nov 14, 2025
Kdon2:
And that's why we will treat you the way you will understand in Yorubas land.
Oh by introducing indigenous certificate?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Una go still tire .


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Toosure70: 12:59pm On Nov 14, 2025
Kdon2:
This one only see the danger. Ibo for a reason I m sure.
reason the Bible says he who keeps his mouth keeps himself away from trouble. Is like Lagos done dey become someone land o
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 1:02pm On Nov 14, 2025
DeepSight:
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It is an abomination for the knight to take on the task of his squire, or for the teacher that of his student, or for the prince that of his servant.
The kknight should make use of the sword not pass it on to the squire
Same with the teacher making use of his books
The prince should rule not pass responsibility to his servant
Re: Dangers Of The Lagos Indegenship Certificate by Kukutente23: 1:04pm On Nov 14, 2025
Ttalk:
Oga Ade there are no Ijebu in Oyo state you only have Ijebu in Lagos and Ogun state.

State the local government in Oyo state where Ijebu are found?
There are Ijebus that are indigenous to Ibadan
The late Olubadan Odulana Odugade was of Ijebu ancestry
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