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Okoroawusa:
I know that I will find someone from my tribe that will tribalize this thread. E sure me die!

Aru mere unu!

Ara na ihere me gbu kwa gi. Gba fuo.

What was wrong with that observation? What’s wrong with making other ports economically functional? Why should seaports be built in other parts of the nation and not put to use? What’s wrong with ensuring that Warri seaport which is open directly to the sea, is put to use? Maybe you do not know that vessels find navigation into the berths easier and cheaper at those seaports than the Lagos seaport. Even Dangote’s is easier to operate for vessels than the Apapa and Tincan seaports.

Why should people from other parts of the country continue to pay more to have their goods delivered to their areas, to the benefit of one state that continues to reap all the benefits? Even the Governor of Lagos is working hard to open the Badagry seaport to the advantage of Lagos.

Why should Delta state not enjoy revenue from seaports established long ago in the state? Calabar seaport is there wasting away. Nigeria has six established seaports, not to talk of other terminals that bring all to over twenty. Of all, preference has been given to Apapa and Tincan seaports over the years. That’s one of the things that make Lagosians claim that their state is more developed than other. Why should they be blamed? Why not allow all the ports to thrive? Help other areas grow their economies and ensure proper development of states. Why not allow vessels to arrive at those seaports too and generate revenue for the host states.

The greedy SA was representing Lagos state, knowing that NPA would cause Lagos state serious loss of revenue. He was right to defend the state. So also others are right to defend their states, as everyone wants growth and develop.

That congestion in Lagos started years ago, with the carefree attitude of the state. NPA can be blamed for poor handling inside the ports, but you cannot blame them for bad road management. That’s the job of the FG and the state. With the positioning of two seaports in that area, Apapa LG and Lagos state government make tons of money from ticketing the trucks, etc. Why not fix the roads and decongest traffic there? They watched the road deteriorate from the nineties and the result became what we saw. NPA should not take the blame for trying to make all their seaports functional and getting more generating revenue from them all.

The advantage to traders in the south south and south east, is less cost of transportation to the final destination. Who will not be happy about that?

benardtotti:
First I'm from edo state
Second you still ended up highlighting the same issue I highlighted, lagos does not control the port , it's a federal asset , lagos can't stop the trucks from going to the port .

If the NPA does not modernise its system even if they go to garden of Eden to setup port same problems will crop up .
This has nothing to do with tribe , it's just logical thinking
I have been to ports outside of nigeria and you wonder why nigeria cant modernise and copy , it's simply corruption.

I disagree entirely with you

UC Lagos cannot control report but the pots are just a narrow strip of land on the coast.

Ports around the world often become congested. It is the job of the government to provide parking area for the tops

In Lagos 60% of the vehicles pop on the street and the trucks to the same

The Lagos State government that is company ask them how many checkpoints do they create to collect tax. Even agbero will collect their own tax or damage vehicles

Many times you will see traffic jam miles long and it is agbero tax collector at this trucks that are fighting

2 months ago I went from this apopa board to kirikiri to see a babe and right that that kirikiri junction not too far from the prisons there will say place that ibero was stopping a long line of container truck to collect money. The thing really pains me

SmartPolician:
Jonathan argued that importers don't like using the eastern ports because Lagos has a bigger market. Lagos State has enjoyed import and export monopoly for a long time. If has attracted most of the wealthy business men and women in Nigeria.

If Nigeria genuinely wants to spread development, it has to be intentional. They have to give massive incentives to people who use the eastern ports and make sure the waterways are free from piracy too. That's the only way to decongest Lagos ports.

Incentives such as what
I've not heard of any ship coming towards the southern ports that was attacked by pirates
Maybe Jonathan is correct and market proximity is what is driving most cargo to Lagos

cocolacec:
How does a discussion about port decongestion involve the Ibos?
Are the Igbos the only tribe using Lagos ports in Nigeria?
Niger,Chad and other African countries use the Lagos port.

Get a grip!
Over 65% of all containers that come into the Lagos ports end up at Nnewi, Onitsha or Aba.
Do your research.
Essentially, this topic should be solely igbo topic. We make your ports active!
You need to pipe low on this topic. We are not discussing about agbo sales here..

Kukutente23:
Incentives such as what
I've not heard of any ship coming towards the southern ports that was attacked by pirates
Maybe Jonathan is correct and market proximity is what is driving most cargo to Lagos

Jonathan never said anything.
Don't mind that loquacious character. He is just yapping.
How would eastern importers prefer Lagos if importing through Lagos was not made cheaper as a result of favourable government policies..

Iamzik:
Empty chest beating as usual.

Importers decide the final port destination and they always choose a port closest to their market base

If igbos are in Lagos solely because of the ports then what are millions your igbo brothers doing in Kaduna and Kano? Are they there because of the ports too?

You guys overestimate your worth. You spend the whole day criticizing other tribes who you depend upon for your source of livelihood in every state. You see why people call you economic migrants? Your region is not conducive for you to do business yet you go to other states and insult those who graciously host you.

This same attitude attitude is the Reason why other tribes do not trust you with political leadership

Dicongest the ports!
Stop yapping..
65% of the containers that land at Apapa ports end up in the east!
Dicongest the ports so you can have your "United States of Yorubaland" to enjoy!
Stop arguing.
They said they are mainly in Lagos because of the ports. Dicongest the ports so they can leave your land ..

Wickedness every where

Streetinvestor2:
chameleon tribe.let the gride lock happen in warri port. Why do u want it in SW region. I thought u want SE to leave your region. Relocate it to warri and see over half of them leave lagos. You use monopoly to keep them in lagos because most are business men

Sir, this is nothing to do with SE leaving the region, you need to focus on what was written, not what you want to write regardless.

You don't even know my region so your whole response is based on falsehood as well as nothing to do with what you are purpotedly responding to, this is not a good look.

I believe the Lagos state government's official position on Tin Can Island has always been that it needs decongesting which means either better operational procedures or investments in ports elsewhere.

owobokiri:
Dicongest the ports!
Stop yapping..
65% of the containers that land at Apapa ports end up in the east!
Dicongest the ports so you can have your "United States of Yorubaland" to enjoy!
Stop arguing.
They said they are mainly in Lagos because of the ports. Dicongest the ports so they can leave your land ..

I'm all for decongesting the ports and I have advocated for it severally on this forum. Lagos is overpopulated and container truck pressure on the road is one of the major cause of traffic and bad road.

Let other ports be up and running so that Lagos population can reduce. At that point importers can choose to import their good through ports close to the east or west as they choose.

There is no need to make bogus claims that ihnos are this Igbos are that. Lagos is a market for so many imported goods so wether you open a port in Kano, majority of imports will still come through Lagos. The only advantage to lagosians is that the city will be decongested

Ikaeniyan0:
Look at what is happening under a Yoruba president? What the son of the Niger Delta couldn't do.

This is how evil you people are. For years you have fed fat on the blood and sweat of others. Your cup is almost full. You are happy when many suffer coz of your selfishness. You have fought for years to sabotage other regional ports from being operational so that all the money will be yours. At the same time you cry that Igbo who are attracted to Lagos primarily because of the port facilities are taking over your land. Enemy of progress you are.

Everlastingson:
This is how evil you people are. For years you have fed fat on the blood and sweat of others. Your cup is almost full. You are happy when many suffer coz of your selfishness. You have fought for years to sabotage other regional ports from being operational so that all the money will be yours. At the same time you cry that Igbo who are attracted to Lagos primarily because of the port facilities are taking over your land. Enemy of progress you are.

What stop Jonathan from changing the system in 6 years he spend in power? Some of you people just love blaming other people for your failures

U

Odin13:
They fear of igbos leaving Lagos is so real.. yet they’re everywhere spreading Igbo hate ..

Why stop what you love to hate… this should be a welcome development to all Yoruba people world wide..
Let the Niger delta enjoy Nigeria also..

See wailing on top port ..

Next president must disable all Yoruba sea ports and make other ports available for Nigerians ..

Let development reach other Nigeria cities .. they will be grateful.. not like those ungrateful wailers .. that hate their fellow countrymen , and still hate their development

Funny characters

I don't like this tribal, ethnic angle to every issue.
But some people talk out of ignorance . During the civil war, Igbo landlords lost their houses in every other region in the country(PH,Kano etc) to what is known as "abandoned property", except Lagos and the south west.
Fellow neigbhour landlords in the SW helped to collect their rent over the 3 years of the war and gave it to the Igbo landlords when they returned to their houses after the war
Colonel Banjo, a Yoruba man fought for Biafra but he was killed by Ojukwu for no wrong.
Colonel Adekunke Fajuyi, a Yoruba man laid down his life to defend Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi from arrest at the South West Govt House, Ibadan

The agbadorians will rather die than to allow this move take place walai cos the port is the only strength they have in this country...

benardtotti:
This headline is misleading. The commissioner raised a valid point, Lagos is not the cause of the backward system in the port, if they don't address the root cause, same issue happening in Lagos will come up within 5 years in warri port

Our leaders love cosmetic fixes to serious issues too much.

Apart from that its high time other ports are opened and utilized.

benardtotti:
This headline is misleading. The commissioner raised a valid point, Lagos is not the cause of the backward system in the port, if they don't address the root cause, same issue happening in Lagos will come up within 5 years in warri port

Our leaders love cosmetic fixes to serious issues too much.

it is not. What makes warri port an unpopular port?
"Hassan noted that if the NPA reviewed and modernised its operational framework in line with current economic realities, congestion at Apapa would reduce significantly, making the shift to Warri unnecessary and, in his words, “an unpopular choice.”

aswani:
Thank you for clearly explaining my thoughts on the BS headline which was done solely to feed into Obidients paranoia.

At no point did the commissioner oppose the move. Even if they were going to redirect operations to Ogun or Ondo State, he would have said the same and would have been correct.

he did.
Hassan noted that if the NPA reviewed and modernised its operational framework in line with current economic realities, congestion at Apapa would reduce significantly, making the shift to Warri unnecessary and, in his words, “an unpopular choice.”

Ttalk:
Don't be lazy Read the article and don't be misled by sensational headline. There's nothing in the article atht indicate Lagos doesn't want FG to increase porting activity at Warrior port

there is.
Hassan noted that if the NPA reviewed and modernised its operational framework in line with current economic realities, congestion at Apapa would reduce significantly, making the shift to Warri unnecessary and, in his words, “an unpopular choice.”

GEJDHERO:
Apart from that its high time other ports are opened and utilized.

Have you ever asked yourself why has the various States government/governors in the States having existing ports that's under utilized not been able to get the attention of the FG to put their ports in order and why only focus in Lagos in a country of our population?

thatigboman:
he did.
Hassan noted that if the NPA reviewed and modernised its operational framework in line with current economic realities, congestion at Apapa would reduce significantly, making the shift to Warri unnecessary and, in his words, “an unpopular choice.”

I hear you but this is not him opposing the move.

His focus and particular concern, to me, was on operations that needed to improve at Tin Can island. I am not sure when last you had any business there but those I know that use it complain more about it every tíme.

Put it this way, if improved processes can decongest the place, why not do it? Why take you tried and tested failed operations to Warri or anywhere else to go and snarl up the place like you have Apapa and it's environs.

His musings make sense to me and from a personal point of view, and from a nationwide security aspect, we cannot be stuck with Tín Can island as the sole gateway into the country for sea cargo.

I would be interested to know what context he uses the words "unpopular choice" as they are open to misinterpretation.

thatigboman:
he did.
Hassan noted that if the NPA reviewed and modernised its operational framework in line with current economic realities, congestion at Apapa would reduce significantly, making the shift to Warri unnecessary and, in his words, “an unpopular choice.”

It is not necessary. Since they want igbos to leave lagos. They should direct all igbo importation to warri port at same cost.And no limits to what they can bring via warri port. The only thing taking them to lagos is this monopoly of sea and air port.This containers still end up in SE states. They are willing to leave let them do the needful. That is the easiest way to decongest lagos port and stop the influx they so much hate.They will equally stop buying thr lands and developing it whether legal or illegal structures. It will be one stone killing 2 birds for SW.It is very popular choice to SS and SE

owobokiri:
Jonathan never said anything.
Don't mind that loquacious character. He is just yapping.
How would eastern importers prefer Lagos if importing through Lagos was not made cheaper as a result of favourable government policies..

How is importing through Lagos cheaper though

bixton:
Have you ever asked yourself why has the various States government/governors in the States having existing ports that's under utilized not been able to get the attention of the FG to put their ports in order and why only focus in Lagos in a country of our population?

Tell us why

They will never agree to this plight because Lagos will go down in revenue generation and fall among the lowest state like Ekiti.
Open our seaport and see how Lagos go empty within the shortest period of time

samwash:
It's high time to start using ports in Warri Koko ports to decongest the traffic in Lagos ports.
If our government actually serious, Ondo, Edo , Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers to cross river state, surpose get at least one functional ports, this will decongest Lagos ports to the minimal.
The FG should look into this development.
When you go to the Niger-Delta we have inner water ways, all the surpose support ports, the money is there to build and develop all these areas
Lagos known waytin he go loss in revenue,if other areas are being developed, why them nor go oppose the decision, who nor like better thing.

.. and it will create a lot of jobs for the youths and Nigerians if other seaports are functioning and working and boost the economy of those states and create jobs in those states...must everything be in Lagos

ufotunang:
.. and it will create a lot of jobs for the youths and Nigerians if other seaports are functioning and working and boost the economy of those states...must everything be in Lagos

Our politicians are not looking towards that way,they always play politics with everything.
Getting like five main major ports in the Niger Delta area, that is big revenue for the government.

tragergeorge:
those areas no serious
especially Edo Delta
road no even de for Keke napep Na Come steady trucks with containers...

No, not that the road are not good, na government get that fault, they get the money to construct the road, but them go siphon part of the funds to their personal gains.

Ikaeniyan0:
Look at what is happening under a Yoruba president? What the son of the Niger Delta couldn't do.

... and this is the same federal government that said if akwa ibom state governor defects to APC .. federal government projects will be done in Akwa ibom promising that Tinubu will start and complete the construction of ibom deep seaport ...so with this complain from Lagos state..how do one expect Tinubu and federal government to be serious in completing the construction of ibom deep seaport in Akwa ibom.. and the akwa state governor has defected to APC and nothing is happening in the ibom deep seaport till now

owobokiri:
Get a grip!
Over 65% of all containers that come into the Lagos ports end up at Nnewi, Onitsha or Aba.
Do your research.
Essentially, this topic should be solely igbo topic. We make your ports active!
You need to pipe low on this topic. We are not discussing about agbo sales here..

ndi chest beater, show us verifiable link to your claim of 65%…….so all Igbos that migrated to Lagos are importers? Including the ones hawking gala in Lagos traffic and mama Amaka selling Ugwu in oyingbo market

jopiper:
They will never agree to this plight because Lagos will go down in revenue generation and fall among the lowest state like Ekiti.
Open our seaport and see how Lagos go empty within the shortest period of time

but ekiti is not as poor as ebonyi which is the only state from southern Nigeria to feature on the list of the 10 poorest state in Nigeria

SonOfDSoil01:
ndi chest beater, show us verifiable link to your claim of 65%…….so all Igbos that migrated to Lagos are importers? Including the ones hawking gala in Lagos traffic and mama Amaka selling Ugwu in oyingbo market

Thought we have gone through this many times here...

If data has to be followed, facilities at the Lagos ports should be relocated to One and Calabar ports...


LINK :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/65-of-containers-from-abroad-end-up-in-southeast-niwa/amp/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thesun.ng/65-of-containers-berthing-in-nigeria-end-up-in-southeast-niwa/%3famp