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I tell you the sincerest truth: all those you know who have died are either in heaven or hell. There is no temporary place of repentance people go to when they die, and no prayers can take a dead person who died in sin to heaven.

The best you can offer a person that is about to die is to lead them into accepting Jesus Christ and repenting of their sins. if you have a sick or hospitalized relative, friend, family member or anyone that is about to die, the first thing to do for them is to tell them to accept Jesus Christ and repent of their sins. Praying for them when they are already dead is a very useless prayer.

Today is a beautiful day, it is a time to accept Jesus Christ and repent of all your sins. Again, looking at what is going around, the insecurities etc, it is important to be prepared for eternity.

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement"

It is better to accept Jesus today and repent.

From my research

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement

This is not the final judgement tho

See the following proof

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
John.5.29 - and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.


Dan.12.2 - And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.



From the bible, we understand that
HELL is a place of torment
HELLFIRE is like a lake of fire in a city called hell
Later on, the whole of hell will be crushed into that lake
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Those who die with bad character and records are going to hell (not yet the lake of fire)

Im still researching on where the righteous ones go....so I am open to learning too..

sunnyfats:
From my research
Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement.

The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

The Church of Jesus Christ of later day Saint even baptised for the dead, it is important because when Jesus died he went to the spirit world to preach for the dead, that was why on the resurrection day he said touch Me me not for i have not yet ascended unto my father... God isn't a partial God.. the Dead will also have the opportunity to practice teaching of the gospel during the millennium

MaxInDHouse:
The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

Story for the gods

paxonel:
Story for the gods

You can't stop interested ones in their search for truth!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
You can't stop interested ones in their search for truth!🙂

Seek your truth elsewhere.
Leave the bible alone.

Your ideas are full of assumptions without biblical basis

paxonel:
Seek your truth elsewhere.
Leave the bible alone.
Your ideas are full of assumptions without biblical basis

Assemble those you feel are following Bible let's see what becomes of them! Matthew 7:16-18🙂

Praying for the dead is like waiting for a cat to speak French fluently.
Effort in futility.

So MAY HIS GENTLE SOUL REST IN PEACE is a useless prayer. 🤔

Doctrine of Hellfire is blasphemous. The wages sin pays is death.

The doctrine that all righteousness go to heaven isn't also scriptural.

Praying for the dead is to help the bereaved cope. It doesn't do jack for the dead.

No

MaxInDHouse:
The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

Illusion taken to far.

JoeEeL:
Once you die, you're dead - Get over it!

there's nothing like heaven or hell fire 🔥

The dead are dead, no amount of prayer can remove evil sand from their faces. Heaven or hell are determined by our doings on earth.

every Sunday there must be something on FP that Will make me laugh hard

Prayer has a very low chance of changing outcomes...

when it matters most, it is nowhere to be found. Praying for the dead to be in heaven, for me it's like a coping mechanisms, because it will change nothing.

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sunnyfats:
From my research

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement

This is not the final judgement tho

See the following proof

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
John.5.29 - and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.


Dan.12.2 - And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.



From the bible, we understand that
HELL is a place of torment
HELLFIRE is like a lake of fire in a city called hell
Later on, the whole of hell will be crushed into that lake
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Those who die with bad character and records are going to hell (not yet the lake of fire)

Im still researching on where the righteous ones go....so I am open to learning too..

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice

So the dead will hear the Word of God. What message will Christ have for the dead. Again, this shows that the dead do hear.

Joeboypondeck:
there's nothing like heaven or hell fire 🔥

A sinners wish!

If not, why you do you panick when death comes?

Joeboypondeck:
there's nothing like heaven or hell fire 🔥

Nigerian black xtians and islamists no dey like hear that one. It hurts their illusion so bad; to confront the painful reality that there's no jackshiit reward afterlife.

It requires a painful recalibration and reorientation of life to discard such religious indoctrinations that have been hammered into our brains since birth.

Imagine all our nigerian leaders, after chopping our money and enjoying women endlessly, will end up in the same grave that I, a poor hapless "holy" nigerian will also end up in... without any afterlife judgment to differentiate us?

Ouch ouch, that must hurt so bad!

Those who brought you the Bible and Qur’an are now stopping you from preaching in their countries because they know they sold lies to you and you believed them. They are keeping their children safe from you so you don’t sell the lies back to them. No heaven, no hellfire. It’s all lies, no claims support it and no one can prove it. Jesus was just an ordinary man like you who lived and died, the same way you will when it’s your time. Nothing like prayer, stop wasting your time.

grandstar:
Doctrine of Hellfire is blasphemous. The wages sin pays is death.

The doctrine that all righteousness go to heaven isn't also scriptural.

And did you not hear that what we call death is actually "sleeping"?

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

Sometimes quoting Jesus and quoting 'the Letters' can be very very contradicting. I'm just saying.

It is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement

I would personally advice you pray for your beloved dead ones and give offerings in their behalf

Remembering your loved ones will help you keep their cherished memories and humbly remember that you too shall pass one day and this life is fleeting

3Si69:
Those who brought you the Bible and Qur’an are now stopping you from preaching in their countries because they know they sold lies to you and you believed them. .

Wrong.
It is because God has finished using them to ensure that everyone has heard, so that no man can claim "I did not know Lord".

Or did you not see a policeman shoot a woman dead for calling him a dem0n?

What about people who die and reappear again in another area where people don't recognise them to live a normal life is this apparition from God or from the devil?

3Si69:
Those who brought you the Bible and Qur’an are now stopping you from preaching in their countries because they know they sold lies to you and you believed them. They are keeping their children safe from you so you don’t sell the lies back to them. No heaven, no hellfire. It’s all lies, no claims support it and no one can prove it. Jesus was just an ordinary man like you who lived and died, the same way you will when it’s your time. Nothing like prayer, stop wasting your time.

We will awaken this delulu generation by fire by force.

Imagine preaching hell and heaven in this 21st century! What effrontery! When black africans go get common sense sef.

I

MaxInDHouse:
The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment
John 5:28-29

You quoted it, all shall hear His voice and all will be resurrected both good and evil

Yankee101:
It is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement

And after that, body decomposition.

Take several seats at d back bro.

WHY ARE U GUYS REMOVING COMMENTS HERE ON NAIRALAND!

Must we all feed into your fantasy of a delusional heaven or hell or must we all agree to it! What rubbish!