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My understanding is, once someone is dead, your prayers for them is useless.

cutecommend:
I tell you the sincerest truth: all those you know who have died are either in heaven or hell. There is no temporary place of repentance people go to when they die, and no prayers can take a dead person who died in sin to heaven.

The best you can offer a person that is about to die is to lead them into accepting Jesus Christ and repenting of their sins. if you have a sick or hospitalized relative, friend, family member or anyone that is about to die, the first thing to do for them is to tell them to accept Jesus Christ and repent of their sins. Praying for them when they are already dead is a very useless prayer.

Today is a beautiful day, it is a time to accept Jesus Christ and repent of all your sins. Again, looking at what is going around, the insecurities etc, it is important to be prepared for eternity.

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement"

The dead is dead prayer for them is a Waste of time. My strong opinion

Nackzy:
The Church of Jesus Christ of later day Saint even baptised for the dead, it is important because when Jesus died he went to the spirit world to preach for the dead, that was why on the resurrection day he said touch Me me not for i have not yet ascended unto my father... God isn't a partial God.. the Dead will also have the opportunity to practice teaching of the gospel during the millennium

U didn't answer the question

GanagiBitrus:
So MAY HIS GENTLE SOUL REST IN PEACE is a useless prayer. 🤔

It's just a courtesy saying. Just like someone asks, "how are you" and you say fine. Mostimes you are not fine at all.

Stephen0mozzy:
Praying for the dead is to help the bereaved cope. It doesn't do jack for the dead.

Yasta

paxonel:
Story for the gods

The way we Christians tell the stories about our faith sounds funny most times to be honest, I almost burst out laugh for the guy comment.
Funny religion indeed.

MaxInDHouse:
I have gotten a reasonable audience and that's all we are sent to do! Luke 10:6



So it's OK continue with your folks!🙂

What do you mean, I should continue wit my folks

sunnyfats:
From my research

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement

This is not the final judgement tho

See the following proof

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
John.5.29 - and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.


Dan.12.2 - And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.



From the bible, we understand that
HELL is a place of torment
HELLFIRE is like a lake of fire in a city called hell
Later on, the whole of hell will be crushed into that lake
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Those who die with bad character and records are going to hell (not yet the lake of fire)

Im still researching on where the righteous ones go....so I am open to learning too..

And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” (Luke 23:40-43)

The criminal said, “Lord, remember me when You come into your kingdom.”

Your kingdom! He recognized Jesus as a king.

Then note Jesus’ answer: “Today you will be with Me in Paradise”; not in the Kingdom but in Paradise.

Why? Because Paradise is a place. Soon after this statement the man and Jesus were walking in the garden of God.

Why not the Kingdom of God? Because the Kingdom of God is not a place where you can take somebody, at least not in the present hour. You can bring someone under the rule of the Kingdom but not into the Kingdom itself. Let us go on to explain.

The Kingdom of God is God in Christ in the saints governing and blessing the creation of God. The Kingdom of God came into existence when the Lord Jesus rose from the dead.

LagosG:
Sometimes quoting Jesus and quoting 'the Letters' can be very very contradicting. I'm just saying.

Because the latter has been tampered with over time by the crooks in control of power

Absolutely NO. It is useless. Once someone dies anything done or said to put him right or wrong in the presence of the Almighty is irrelevant. What does this mean in essence, while prayer for the dead is seen as beneficial in certain traditions, it does not change the fundamental judgment made by God regarding the individual's righteousness or sins.

timilehin007:
Pls, which church do you worship. I think your explaination seems more meaningful and worth paying attention to, I want to know more. Which is your denomination amongst the churches

Religious people

Why not ask him to direct you where to learn more and grow spiritually than looking for his church?

timilehin007:
What do you mean, I should continue wit my folks

Don't mind that argumentative man he feels like arguing aimlessly all the time but i don't waste my precious time with such ones when people like you are around.
Once again i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are welcome!

kiddaz:
Religious people
Why not ask him to direct you where to learn more and grow spiritually than looking for his church?

Only my church has reasonable thing to share if you know you know!🙂

Rev. 20 vs 14 said that death and hades( hell or grave) were hurled into the lake of fire,,,does death and the grave feel pains? Are they a personage?just want to know

sunnyfats:
From my research

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement

This is not the final judgement tho

See the following proof

John.5.28 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
John.5.29 - and come forth--those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.


Dan.12.2 - And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.



From the bible, we understand that
HELL is a place of torment
HELLFIRE is like a lake of fire in a city called hell
Later on, the whole of hell will be crushed into that lake
Rev.20.14 - Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Those who die with bad character and records are going to hell (not yet the lake of fire)

Im still researching on where the righteous ones go....so I am open to learning too..

There is no heaven or hell somewhere. It a fabricated to control your soul and take your energy. There is no God up in the sky. You are the God, you are all in all, you are I AM.

cutecommend:
It is better to accept Jesus today and repent.

The figure many people call “Jesus” is actually a later, heavily edited version of a historical teacher known as Yeshua. Over time, religious institutions reshaped his life and message into a salvation story that fit their doctrines.

Yeshua himself wasn’t preaching that he came to “die for your sins.” His core message was about awakening to truth, inner transformation, and realizing the divine nature already within every human being. He challenged the religious system of his time, and it was this truth-telling that led to his death, not a divine requirement for sacrifice. He was murdered for telling people the truth.

The idea of a sky-father sitting on a physical throne or a burning hell beneath the ground came much later through cultural interpretations and church doctrines. These concepts were designed more to control behaviour than to describe spiritual reality.

The deeper message is this:
You are not separate from the divine. You are a spark of God-consciousness.
The “Kingdom of God” is not a place you travel to after death, it is a state of awareness you awaken to within yourself.

Spiritual awakening is about realizing who you truly are, not living in fear of punishment.



🌅 Sunday Awakening

Religion told you to look up to find God.
Awakening teaches you to look within.

This is the shift Yeshua came to reveal,
a transition from worship to awareness,
from seeking God outside to discovering God in your own consciousness.

On this quiet Sunday morning, feel this truth:

✨ God is not separate from you.
God is the Light breathing as you.
God is the Awareness watching through your eyes.

The more you awaken, the clearer it becomes that the “distance” between you and God was only a belief, an illusion created by fear and tradition.

Today, return to your inner altar.
Sit with your breath.
Rest in your heart’s silence.
And remember:

You are the temple.
You are the witness.
You are the awakening.

Walk through this day not as a seeker,
but as an awakened soul remembering its Source.

★ The Awaken Soul (TAS)
Awaken • Align • Ascend

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IN LUKE 16 FROM VERSE 19 THE RICH MAN IN THE STORY OF THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS, WHO WENT TO HELL, BEGGED FOR WATER AND COULDNT GET IT. IN HELL HE REALISED WHEN IT WAS TOO LATE THAT THE GREATEST WORK TO DO ON EARTH WAS TO BE A SOUL WINNER. HE BECAME AN EVANGELIST IN HELL, TRYING TO WIN THE SOULS OF HIS 5 BRETHREN TO GOD BUT HE WAS TOLD THAT THOSE ON EARTH HAVE PROPHETS. THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THINGS RIGHT WITH GOD AND THATS WHILE HERE ON EARTH. THE BIBLE WAS VERY PRECISE ON THIS IN HEBREWS 9-27 AND SAID THAT IT IS ONLY APPOINTED UNTO MEN ONCE TO DIE AND AFTER IT WILL COME JUDGEMENT. ANY TEACHING OUT SIDE THIS, LIKE THE TEACHING ON PUGATORY, IS A LICENCE TO THOSE WHO WANT TO DRINK AROUND AND LIVE IMMORAL AND STILL HAVE THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE.

[quote author=coolheaven post=137572000][/quote]Just watch this video this life is deeply spiritual.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCRxxInmds4?si=piIY0lXb30gB1Yjy

No amount of prayers can change the destination of a dead person.

7arrows:
U didn't answer the question

No it doesn't they have a choice to decide whether to follow Christ or not

Come to islamic section you see them typing rubbish up and down.
You can never see a Muslim insulting Christianity.

Zocalite:
"You can practice any religion and still believe and keep faith in Jesus for your salvation"

This statement is a fallacy

But

Let me ask, which church do you attend?

"This statement is a Fallacy", sounds like; "This man heals by the power of demons".

But

Let me ask, do you mean which "me" do "I" attend?

I am the church of the living God myself just as every Christian is but many so called Christians worship the church building just as Judaism views the temple or synagogue and were angry when Jesus referred to his body as the temple of God they couldn't understand that just as you can't understand me and my answer....

MaxInDHouse:
The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ.
During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6
Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20

Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?

Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice  and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29

Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.

So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?

The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.

The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17

Anything that takes you this long to extrapolate in the Bible is a lie. Bible is not an idiomatic expressions, they are to be taken literally.

psalmsjob:
"This statement is a Fallacy", sounds like; "This man heals by the power of demons".

But

Let me ask, do you mean which "me" do "I" attend?

I am the church of the living God myself just as every Christian is but many so called Christians worship the church building just as Judaism views the temple or synagogue and were angry when Jesus referred to his body as the temple of God they couldn't understand that just as you can't understand me and my answer....

You can not be a Church. If you don't know the meaning of a Church, use vernacular to explain. Temple is not the same thing as a Church.

Read the passage below and tell me how you know what a church is than Jesus Christ?

Matthew 18:15-17 KJV
Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. [16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. [17] And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

MadamExcellency:
Anything that takes you this long to extrapolate in the Bible is a lie. Bible is not an idiomatic expressions, they are to be taken literally.

Present those practicing what the book teaches!🙂

No. No.. No!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't mind that argumentative man he feels like arguing aimlessly all the time but i don't waste my precious time with such ones when people like you are around.
Once again i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are welcome!

Thanks. I wish to know more but obviously I wouldn't just get what I want even if I start going to JW today

timilehin007:
Thanks. I wish to know more but obviously I wouldn't just get what I want even if I start going to JW today

I was shocked too the first time i heard what you are hearing now because i wasn't born a JW but i was so drawn to it that i determined to know more.
You and i can start a Bible study here but i have to contact my brothers in your neighborhood to continue the study because if Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray with you you can't remember what you are learning neither can you know how to apply scriptures rightly.

If you are ready please read the screenshot and answer the question.

@ Timileyin please read and answer the question.

@ Timileyin please read and answer.