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Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Fujiyama: 11:41am On Nov 24, 2025
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Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by sulaak(m): 11:45am On Nov 24, 2025
bixton:
So, from your research what is the meaning of Adama and was he the first person to be called that name or is the name a self named by him?

The military government did not create unproductive States but the various States government and governors made their States unproductive. Let's get that right and truthful about it.
Google is your friend.

The military created unproductive states that have given rise to Islamist insurgency and a space that can't be governed. There is no business breaking Kano into three new states.

Before it became a state in Nigeria, Adamawa was a subordinate kingdom of the Sultanate of Sokoto, which also included much of northern Cameroon. The rulers bear the title of emir ("lamido" in the local language, Fulfulde).[13]

The name "Adamawa" came from the founder of the kingdom, Modibo Adama, a regional leader of the Fulani Jihad organized by Usman dan Fodio of Sokoto in 1804. Modibo Adama came from the region of Gurin (now just a small village) and in 1806, received a green flag for leading the jihad in his native country. In the following years, Adama conquered many lands and tribes. In 1838, he moved his capital to Ribadu, and in 1839, to Joboliwo. In 1841, he founded Yola, where he died in 1848. After the European colonization (first by Germany and then by Britain), the rulers remained as emirs and the line of succession has continued to the present day.


Dancers of Adamawa state in their cultural adornment
In the early 1800s, the Fulani jihad seized much of modern-day Adamawa State and formed the Adamawa Emirate under the Sokoto Caliphate. About 90 years later, forces from Germany and the British Empire defeated the Emirate in the Adamawa Wars and split the area. The British-controlled area (much of the west of modern-day Adamawa) was incorporated into the Northern Nigeria Protectorate which later merged into British Nigeria before becoming independent as Nigeria in 1960. The German-controlled area formed a part of German Kamerun until allied forces invaded and occupied Kamerun during the Kamerun campaign of World War I. After the war, what is now eastern Adamawa State became most of the Northern Cameroons within the British Cameroons until 1961, when a referendum led to a merger with Nigeria.

Originally, modern-day Adamawa State was a part of the post-independence Northern Region until 1967 when the area became part of the North-Eastern State. After the North-Eastern State was split in 1976, Gongola State was formed on 3 February 1976 alongside ten other states. Fifteen years after statehood, Gongola was split with the state's south becoming Taraba State while its north became Adamawa State.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by lexikul(m): 11:49am On Nov 24, 2025
The best president Nigeria ever had is GEN SANI ABACHA.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 11:50am On Nov 24, 2025
Racoon:
Sanni Abacha was really one relatively quiet unknown but dangerous coup merchant in the Nigerian army until he sprung up like a sleeper. Naira was best stabilize during his iron-fisted years
on paper... in reality nigerians had to learn to cook with sawdust as fuel in a country rich in crude oil.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 11:54am On Nov 24, 2025
mysticwarrior:
This man's embezzlement was very serious, but If he is the one in Aso rock he would have crushed Boko haram, bandits and all domestic terrorists by now.
will you sit down and keep kwayet? una talk the same thing about buhari

I am so happy your buhari did his "full 8 years" if not na people like una go dey talk say nigeria for beta pass london. JUST KEEP QUIET
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 11:56am On Nov 24, 2025
CJStarz:
Negatively so.
BAT was only being ambitious but Nigerians didn't see that
which nigerians didn't see that? please be more specific because election was not far away and many of us warned against tinubu.

maybe YOU were the one who did not see it, not nigerians.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 11:58am On Nov 24, 2025
Kingosytex:
I thought same but realized he had his good sides too. He executed the idiots that spearheaded the killing of one George or so in Kano for blasphemy. The only one that escaped was Sanusi who later became the CBN governor.
so he was still incompetent then. allowed sanusi to survive
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 11:59am On Nov 24, 2025
Lekby25:
Murtala Mohammed and Obasanjo meant well for the country.
Tinubu also means well the country
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Fujiyama: 12:03pm On Nov 24, 2025
grandstar:
Buhari left a gangatuam mess behind. Tinubu is cleaning it up.
^^^
Tinubu was part of that mess from the very beginning. How do you mean "cleaning it up"? undecided

BAT is still borrowing heavily to finance recurrent spending. He is on course to record another deficit this year (as we can expect for his entire tenure in office). He has done absolutely nothing about public sector reform. undecided He is still maintaining a costly, extremely wasteful public expenditure profile - just like Buhari before him. Where is the clean up? undecided

grandstar:
The country's credit rating has been upgraded twice.
^^^
It is still junk. Or to use the more polite term: "speculative grade". undecided

We are still 2 years away from federal elections but BAT has already started the politicking. undecided You can be sure the very modest economic gains made by his administration will be eroded when the usual third world politicking practices take off - and BAT starts trying to placate vested political interests.

We'll see how clean things really are then. It won't be long now.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 12:04pm On Nov 24, 2025
Fujiyama:
^^^
grin

Unbelievable

No truthful person who was an adult during the Abacha years - and who was actually in the country - will agree with these comments.

A lot of these comments are grossly, wildly inaccurate. Hankering after some blissful, glorious past that never existed. undecided

The Abacha administration was most definitely not what these posters are making it out to have been. Sani Abacha was a terrible ruler and that's the truth.
I think the people pushing posts like this to the front page are trying to guage nairaland perception of abacha so they will know how to whitewash the mf.

Majority of those who felt the brunt of his dangerous regime are dying so the project now is to lie to the younger generation that abacha was a hero and maybe compare him with Ibrahim Traore (of Burkina Faso, for those that don't know). dem fit even cook say na abacha fight for nigeria independence, with the kind of things these liars say, I can not put it past them.

I admire their effort. they should keep trying to repackage abacha for us, maybe one day they will succeed.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Fujiyama: 12:08pm On Nov 24, 2025
legionISproteus:
I think the people pushing posts like this to the front page are trying to guage nairaland perception of abacha so they will know how to whitewash the mf.

Majority of those who felt the brunt of his dangerous regime are dying so the project now is to lie to the younger generation that abacha was a hero and maybe compare him with Ibrahim Traore (of Burkina Faso, for those that don't know). dem fit even cook say na abacha fight for nigeria independence, with the kind of things these liars say, I can not put it past them.

I admire their effort. they should keep trying to repackage abacha for us, maybe one day they will succeed.
^^^
Exactly

That's why those of us who were there need to tell it like it was.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by dederocs(m): 12:31pm On Nov 24, 2025
Sonnobax15:
lipsrsealed
As bad as Sani Abacha was,but this is the kind of time where you won't have any other option than to miss someone like him .
He nearly destroyed Nigeria. Looted the nation blind, evil fulani man.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Zocalite: 12:50pm On Nov 24, 2025
Sonnobax15:
lipsrsealed
As bad as Sani Abacha was,but this is the kind of time where you won't have any other option than to miss someone like him .
You can't say

Times have changed now

Maladministration in nigeria has reached novel heights

Even buhari who succinctly defended crime committed by various Fulani group once destroyed a terrorist group as military commander

Forgotten the name of the group*
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by legionISproteus: 12:55pm On Nov 24, 2025
Fujiyama:
^^^
Exactly

That's why those of us who were there need to tell it like it was.
look at the usernames for two of the posts you tagged

one is btruth, the other is freshtruth i can bet there is nothing truthful about what they posted there

they have been paid to rewrite history and push false narratives like another nairaland account identified as domperignon
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Kingosytex(m): 12:56pm On Nov 24, 2025
legionISproteus:
so he was still incompetent then. allowed sanusi to survive
The said Sanusi was smuggled out or so. Abacha would have executed the killers of Deborah. Man was evil, but he was nowhere near a religious fanatic.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by DomPerignon: 1:01pm On Nov 24, 2025
legionISproteus:
look at the usernames for two of the posts you tagged

one is btruth, the other is freshtruth i can bet there is nothing truthful about what they posted there

they have been paid to rewrite history and push false narratives like another nairaland account identified as domperignon
When did I ever glorify any past military dictator?

The only military ruler I have ever wrote in defense of was Gowon and it was always against the heap of lies and insults directed by the sore losers.

Pls show me one post or topic that I have made that wasn't objective and backed with facts.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by EDGEof2MORO: 1:02pm On Nov 24, 2025
Zocalite:
You can't say

Times have changed now

Maladministration in nigeria has reached novel heights

Even buhari who succinctly defended crime committed by various Fulani group once destroyed a terrorist group as military commander

Forgotten the name of the group*
i also do not remember the name of the group, but remember he did not make the initiative by himself. as a military man, he was acting under orders so give credit to his oga that gave him that order because the buhari we all know would have given the terrorist maximum backing if he was to make that call.

i am glad he had 8 full years to show his true color if not some people would be telling us buhari is the man that would have wiped nigeria terrorist groups completely.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by nairalanda1(m): 1:06pm On Nov 24, 2025
sulaak:
Google is your friend.

The military created unproductive states that have given rise to Islamist insurgency and a space that can't be governed. There is no business breaking Kano into three new states.
1.Clamor for state creation started under the first republic, that is why we had the midwest region created (which became bendel, and which lasted till 1991

2.Clamor was from minority tribes who felt oppressed by the majority tribes in the three original regions.

3.Regions were not productive, and had they lasted till today, they would be described as being unproductive because of the resource curse. As many researchers have pointed out, countries that use brain power are richer than countries that sell cocoa, cotton, palm oil, crude oil, metals, and so forth (unless the population of the resource rich country is tiny enough ). Infact, that is why most subsaharan african countries are broke and poor.

(By productive I mean being able to produce industrial goods that are exportable. No country in Africa gets rich from selling raw materials and so forth. If it was so, by now Nigeria would be like USA. )

4.If you want the states to be profitable, start with taxation. But Nigerians don't like paying tax at all, even as at 2019, only 30% of Nigerians paid taxes to state and federal governments. I doubt anything would have changed with 'regions'. Government now claims it is 44%, but even then tax to gdp is low at less than 10% up till today.

Also, many states started well by investing in education. But when someone graduates and finds no jobs because imports and poor electricity means that the ability of our economy to generate jobs (poor electticity being caused by the same issues with poor tax revenue)..is broken. All we got is the civil service, which can't absorb everyone

5.Regions were flawed, very flawed. The Igbo pogrom was a good example of how flawed, when you have a regional police that cannot do anything. Why there has been no repeat is due to our police having been federalized. Throroughly.


Nigeria's problem is that people and government think that economy is a cake that can be shared and that after sharing e go regenerate every night. That's a fairytale, not true economics.

And because of that we end up with leaders like buhari, gej, tinubu, and company whose job is to share money, not do serious governing. And why we have so many idle youth who end up in arms...
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by DomPerignon: 1:06pm On Nov 24, 2025
Kingosytex:
The said Sanusi was smuggled out or so. Abacha would have executed the killers of Deborah. Man was evil, but he was nowhere near a religious fanatic.
Sanusi was pardoned by Abacha after being lobbied by several Emirs including Ado Bayero.

Sanusi was then released and forced to go into exile in Sudan.

The north will always find a way to protect their own even before Abacha

Sanusi's co-defenders were all executed by hanging .
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Jagabanfromcali: 1:09pm On Nov 24, 2025
Chiefwandungu:
-Gen. Abacha overthrew the ING led by Ernest Shonekon. The AFRC seized to exist after the retirement of Gen. Babangida.
So why wud the clown that wrote this post pass on fake and distorted history to the public , they probably thought some of us have forgotten, that’s how they operate lying and shaping the narrative to fit their tainted agenda
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Jagabanfromcali: 1:10pm On Nov 24, 2025
DomPerignon:
Sanusi was pardoned by Abacha after being lobbied by several Emirs including Ado Bayero.

Sanusi was then released and forced to go into exile in Sudan.

The north will always find a way to protect their own even before Abacha

Sanusi's co-defenders were all executed by hanging .
Is this verifiable? I learnt none was executed
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Jagabanfromcali: 1:14pm On Nov 24, 2025
nairalanda1:
1.Clamor for state creation started under the first republic, that is why we had the midwest region created (which became bendel, and which lasted till 1991

2.Clamor was from minority tribes who felt oppressed by the majority tribes in the three original regions.

3.Regions were not productive, and had they lasted till today, they would be described as being unproductive because of the resource curse. As many researchers have pointed out, countries that use brain power are richer than countries that sell cocoa, cotton, palm oil, crude oil, metals, and so forth (unless the population of the resource rich country is tiny enough ). Infact, that is why most subsaharan african countries are broke and poor.

(By productive I mean being able to produce industrial goods that are exportable. No country in Africa gets rich from selling raw materials and so forth. If it was so, by now Nigeria would be like USA. )

4.If you want the states to be profitable, start with taxation. But Nigerians don't like paying tax at all, even as at 2019, only 30% of Nigerians paid taxes to state and federal governments. I doubt anything would have changed with 'regions'. Government now claims it is 44%, but even then tax to gdp is low at less than 10% up till today.

Also, many states started well by investing in education. But when someone graduates and finds no jobs because imports and poor electricity means that the ability of our economy to generate jobs (poor electticity being caused by the same issues with poor tax revenue)..is broken. All we got is the civil service, which can't absorb everyone

5.Regions were flawed, very flawed. The Igbo pogrom was a good example of how flawed, when you have a regional police that cannot do anything. Why there has been no repeat is due to our police having been federalized. Throroughly.


Nigeria's problem is that people and government think that economy is a cake that can be shared and that after sharing e go regenerate every night. That's a fairytale, not true economics.

And because of that we end up with leaders like buhari, gej, tinubu, and company whose job is to share money, not do serious governing. And why we have so many idle youth who end up in arms...
People like u that are this intelligent in Nigeria no reach 5 and none in this government, pls Bar man give this man anything he want chop plus 3 Ashi to keep him company I Dey come
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Onewazobia(m): 1:22pm On Nov 24, 2025
Kingosytex:
I thought same but realized he had his good sides too. He executed the idiots that spearheaded the killing of one George or so in Kano for blasphemy. The only one that escaped was Sanusi who later became the CBN governor.
I thought you won't sight the latter
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Dpaulie(m): 1:22pm On Nov 24, 2025
Btruth:
he was never been appreciated. Prophet sometimes is never value for his worth.
Seems you were never born when Abacha was ruling, if you were, you'd understand that nothing has to be appreciated about him to Nigerians!
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by bixton(m): 1:23pm On Nov 24, 2025
sulaak:
Google is your friend.

The military created unproductive states that have given rise to Islamist insurgency and a space that can't be governed. There is no business breaking Kano into three new states.
Maybe I didn't make my question clear enough.......
Please what is the meaning of the name Adama in the language it originated from?


Can you throw more on this and why as regards the bolded in your statement. Thanks.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Barzinime(m): 1:24pm On Nov 24, 2025
Sometimes we dont know what truly transpired except what we are been fed by media outlets.
Alot of reasons why he did all that we thought he did & might be for a genuine good reasons, but the world will paint you as evil as long as you are not doing their bidding.
GABRIEL6036:
History will never forgive this man even after death. This idiot lay a footprints that other polithiefians follow. God will judge all of you.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by 43Ronin: 1:35pm On Nov 24, 2025
As bad as this guy was, he stabilized the economy, reduced inflation from 53% inherited from IBB to 8%. Fuel was 11 naira per litre untill he died and there were no scarcity cos all the refineries were working Security was top notch & he did all these with different sanctions. If evil abacha could do good, these politicians have no excuse except for being worse than evil
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by Btruth: 2:58pm On Nov 24, 2025
Love800:
Was the economy lucrative under abacha?
at least his tenure is better than all the rubbish we have now.
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by smokinloud(m): 3:59pm On Nov 24, 2025
Kingosytex:
I thought same but realized he had his good sides too. He executed the idiots that spearheaded the killing of one George or so in Kano for blasphemy. The only one that escaped was Sanusi who later became the CBN governor.
How true is this?
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by sulaak(m): 4:25pm On Nov 24, 2025
nairalanda1:
1.Clamor for state creation started under the first republic, that is why we had the midwest region created (which became bendel, and which lasted till 1991

The Mid-West Region was an agreement between the Western Regions and people from the Mid-West (Delta State, Edo State, and Bayelsa State) that they would have their own region. The issue was debated and agreed upon in the Western House of Assembly.

2.Clamor was from minority tribes who felt oppressed by the majority tribes in the three original regions.

What should have happened was empowering Local government and not creating new states that are not viable.

3.Regions were not productive, and had they lasted till today, they would be described as being unproductive because of the resource curse. As many researchers have pointed out, countries that use brain power are richer than countries that sell cocoa, cotton, palm oil, crude oil, metals, and so forth (unless the population of the resource rich country is tiny enough ). Infact, that is why most subsaharan african countries are broke and poor.

The resource curse is a problem in the Southern Hemisphere. Australia, Chile, New Zealand, Canada, Norway, Russia, Indonesia and many Asian countries have turned their resources into opportunities. Even Namibia, Botswana, and recently Guinea (Conakry) have turned their resources into economic development by balancing resource extraction with social and infrastructure development.

The Western and Eastern Regions of Nigeria were developing at a fast pace.


(By productive I mean being able to produce industrial goods that are exportable. No country in Africa gets rich from selling raw materials and so forth. If it was so, by now Nigeria would be like USA. )

Agree, that's why support for local entrepreneurs such as Dangote, Innoson, BUA and many more should be a priority.

4.If you want the states to be profitable, start with taxation. But Nigerians don't like paying tax at all, even as at 2019, only 30% of Nigerians paid taxes to state and federal governments. I doubt anything would have changed with 'regions'. Government now claims it is 44%, but even then tax to gdp is low at less than 10% up till today.


Cancelling FAAC and handing funds to states that have never contributed to the national budget will force states to focus on revenue generation. The entire North have lost its capability to be productive due to the availability of FAAC.


Also, many states started well by investing in education. But when someone graduates and finds no jobs because imports and poor electricity means that the ability of our economy to generate jobs (poor electticity being caused by the same issues with poor tax revenue)..is broken. All we got is the civil service, which can't absorb everyone .

The faster growth of Education in Nigeria occurred between Self-Rule 1952 and 1966 in the old Western and Eastern Regions. A regional government with complete control of governmental power and resources is the only way to develop Nigeria.

5.Regions were flawed, very flawed. The Igbo pogrom was a good example of how flawed, when you have a regional police that cannot do anything. Why there has been no repeat is due to our police having been federalized. Throroughly.


Nigeria's problem is that people and government think that economy is a cake that can be shared and that after sharing e go regenerate every night. That's a fairytale, not true economics.

And because of that we end up with leaders like buhari, gej, tinubu, and company whose job is to share money, not do serious governing. And why we have so many idle youth who end up in arms...
Re: Sani Abacha And 7 Others Nigerians At Mons Officer Cadet School Aldershot, UK by math2001: 4:43pm On Nov 24, 2025
Who racoon. Racoon know so much. I need to meet him.
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