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Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 2:44am On Nov 23, 2025
Expanse2020:
Is Jesus not born from a woman.. who claimed to be his creation by Christianity
What is your question?

Was Jesus not born by a woman? Yes according to the bible , science , history and Quran . Is there anything wrong been born by a woman? Do you have anything against women? Why are you bitter against women?.

Who claimed to be his creation? Habibi can you elaborate, I don't understand your English.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 2:57am On Nov 23, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Stop following without care. Allah sent blessings on Muhammad pbuh and believers are encouraged to do same. It is an honor and Allah prays to no one.

I believe you can do this research and correct yourself.
O Allah send your prayer or praises to Muhammad..... what does that mean? Allah praying to Who?


An one of the purpose of this is for forgiveness of sin.... so sins are forgiven by sending praises to Muhammad?

Is that not contradiction? Can a sinner save a sinner?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by olabrad: 7:08am On Nov 23, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Stop following without care. Allah sent blessings on Muhammad pbuh and believers are encouraged to do same. It is an honor and Allah prays to no one.

I believe you can do this research and correct yourself.
Research shows that the Arabic word used in the verse is solat, which means prayer.

Meuslims try to lie by saying solat means blessing. Blessings in Arabic means barakat.

You can't deceive people anymore
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 7:20am On Nov 23, 2025
olabrad:
Research shows that the Arabic word used in the verse is solat, which means prayer.

Meuslims try to lie by saying solat means blessing. Blessings in Arabic means barakat.

You can't deceive people anymore
Kindly present the actual research result not bland unsubstantiated statement please. Is this how you are taught? Answer without process or clear explanations? Please present the Arabic text or transliteration and show you understand what you say.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Expanse2020(m): 8:27am On Nov 23, 2025
I no
BlackfireX:
What is your question?

Was Jesus not born by a woman? Yes according to the bible , science , history and Quran . Is there anything wrong been born by a woman? Do you have anything against women? Why are you bitter against women?

Your God was born by his creation
He was fed poison by his creation
He was killed by his creation . .
What didn't you understand by that. .

Lazaru am not your Habibi.... Am a gay abeg ..
We know that there is nothing wrong in Adam and Steve as it supported in your religion 🤣🤣🤣🤣 we don't have that in Islam ... It's only
Adam and Hawau we have


Who claimed to be his creation? Habibi can you elaborate, I don't understand your English.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 9:49am On Nov 23, 2025
Expanse2020:
I no
Habibi I don't know what is troubling your soul but I pray the Yasua Al massih will heal you and lead you to him, Amen.


Now back to the questions ... I believe you are an Adult and somehow educated, this is a conversation not tantrum throwing.


I ask a question you answer, then you ask me a question I will answer you, can you do that?

So do you want to ask or should I?
And let's stick to the topic to be discussed.

Shukraan
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 9:59am On Nov 23, 2025
olabrad:
Research shows that the Arabic word used in the verse is solat, which means prayer.

Meuslims try to lie by saying solat means blessing. Blessings in Arabic means barakat.

You can't deceive people anymore
I fell in love with Arabic language .
It made me understand the lies and brainwashing embedded in the Quran ( we have 2 popular Qurans hafs and warsh plus 8 others)

I read the hadiths and fear grip me and it made me understand why terrorist have the moral to do there damages.


Do you know that the 99 names gievn to muhamed... intercessor, the High ONE, the nazarete a man to be praised
But in contrast this is .. a man who lived a wicked and evil life...who died a sinner...who declared that his judgment is in the had of Jesus christ.


You were right about the prayer solaat ...in anyway they spin it...it is either Allah is praying or praising another Allah ....or Allah is praying to or praising our Muhammad ( the high ONE )


Thank God for Internet
Thank God for the Holy spirit
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Expanse2020(m): 7:32pm On Nov 23, 2025
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BlackfireX:
Habibi I don't know what is troubling your soul but I pray the Yasua Al massih will heal you and lead you to him, Amen.


Now back to the questions ... I believe you are an Adult and somehow educated, this is a conversation not tantrum throwing.


I ask a question you answer, then you ask me a question I will answer you, can you do that?

So do you want to ask or should I?
And let's stick to the topic to be discussed.

Shukraan
So it's yehesua that healed you .... Let him heal you finished... .
Am not your Habibi, am not a gay..... Find yourself a Steve if you like it's acceptable in your religion...
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Lukuluku69(m): 7:34pm On Nov 23, 2025
Kukutente23:
Over to Antichristian and Lukuluku69
So?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 11:35am On Nov 24, 2025
BlackfireX:
O Allah send your prayer or praises to Muhammad..... what does that mean? Allah praying to Who?


An one of the purpose of this is for forgiveness of sin.... so sins are forgiven by sending praises to Muhammad?

Is that not contradiction? Can a sinner save a sinner?
You state being in love with Arabic in your response to Olabrad but loving something and properly understanding it are not the same.
In the phrase Allah sends salah upon the Prophet pbuh . The verb form of salah used shifts its meaning depending on who’s using it. For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer. In Qur’an 33:43, when it says, He is the One who yusalli upon you, it highlights Allah’s role in guiding believers from darkness into light, showcasing His divine favor. Is Allah praying to believers here? Compare to the one you apparently are critical of as it applies to prophet Muhammad pbuh; Quran 33:56 Indeed, Allah and His angels yusalluna upon the Prophet…”

Classical scholars like Ibn al-Athir and al-Tabari clarify that Allah’s salah is more about commendation than worship. When believers send salah, they’re simply joining in the act of honoring the Prophet pbuh.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 2:56pm On Nov 24, 2025
Explore2xmore:
You state being in love with Arabic in your response to Olabrad but loving something and properly understanding it are not the same.
In the phrase Allah sends salah upon the Prophet pbuh . The verb form of salah used shifts its meaning depending on who’s using it. For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer. In Qur’an 33:43, when it says, He is the One who yusalli upon you, it highlights Allah’s role in guiding believers from darkness into light, showcasing His divine favor. Is Allah praying to believers here? Compare to the one you apparently are critical of as it applies to prophet Muhammad pbuh; Quran 33:56 Indeed, Allah and His angels yusalluna upon the Prophet…”

Classical scholars like Ibn al-Athir and al-Tabari clarify that Allah’s salah is more about commendation than worship. When believers send salah, they’re simply joining in the act of honoring the Prophet pbuh.
Ok nice attempt.


I learn Arabic is that a crime ? And I am sure you ain't an Arab. Which means you still need to learn it. Imagine to know the mind of Allah you a non Arab must learn Arabic language to understand your Allah.

Now back to the topic.

What does salat means?

Let's start from there.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 3:46pm On Nov 24, 2025
BlackfireX:
Ok nice attempt.


I learn Arabic is that a crime ? And I am sure you ain't an Arab. Which means you still need to learn it. Imagine to know the mind of Allah you a non Arab must learn Arabic language to understand your Allah.

Now back to the topic.

What does salat means?

Let's start from there.
No point getting reactiive mate.
Explore2xmore:
The verb form of salah used shifts its meaning depending on who’s using it. For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 4:40pm On Nov 24, 2025
Explore2xmore:
No point getting reactiive mate.
You should take your own advise

Now the word used is salat which means prayer.

Now the words you are using that it means blessings is not salaat instead it is barakat


Saaaalat means prayer
Barakat means blessings



O Allah send your Salat to/ on muhamed


If salat is prayer , who is Allah praying to on behalf of Muhammad? Or is he prayimg to Muhammad( the High One, the one that should be praised, the intetcessor) all this from muhamed 99 names .



Salat is prayer
Don't play altaqiyya with me
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 5:11pm On Nov 24, 2025
BlackfireX:
You should take your own advise

Now the word used is salat which means prayer.

Now the words you are using that it means blessings is not salaat instead it is barakat


Saaaalat means prayer
Barakat means blessings



O Allah send your Salat to/ on muhamed


If salat is prayer , who is Allah praying to on behalf of Muhammad? Or is he prayimg to Muhammad( the High One, the one that should be praised, the intetcessor) all this from muhamed 99 names .



Salat is prayer
Don't play altaqiyya with me
Can your Arabic expertise show you the difference between Wa aqimu as-salata lillah
;And establish the prayer for Allah.(Q 2:110)

compared to:

Huwa alladhi yusalli ʿalaykum wa malaʾikatuhu
He is the One who yusalli upon you, and His angels (also). (Q 33:43)

Can you differentiate the linguistic difference between yusalli and yusalluna in the verse of your concern?

Do you know what is called Fusha and how it relates to the Quran and native Arabians study this?

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Did you read or skim through my earlier response?

Explore2xmore:
In Qur’an 33:43, when it says, He is the One who yusalli upon you, it highlights Allah’s role in guiding believers from darkness into light, showcasing His divine favor. Is Allah praying to believers here?
Then give a definition of altaqiyya please.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 5:17pm On Nov 24, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Can your Arabic expertise show you the difference between Wa aqimu as-salata lillah
;And establish the prayer for Allah.(Q 2:110)

compared to:

Huwa alladhi yusalli ʿalaykum wa malaʾikatuhu
He is the One who yusalli upon you, and His angels (also). (Q 33:43)

Can you differentiate the linguistic difference between yusalli and yusalluna in the verse of your concern?

Do you know what is called Fusha and how it relates to the Quran and native Arabians study this?

Then give a definition of altaqiyya please.
Funny how one need to study Arabic to understand qquran Islam and muhamed...

Then you learn Arabic the next you will hear is the classical tongue, 7 ways of understanding Quran ....ask yourself what kind of confusion is this?

My friend I have answered you even on your ignorance...

Saalaaaat means prayer.
The way Muslim deny Quranic verses eeh once it contradicts itself and exposes its lies .


Should I show you verses where Allah and muhamed made decisions and nobody must question it? Which buttress the point that according to the Quran Allah send prays or praises to Muhammad.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 5:21pm On Nov 24, 2025
BlackfireX:
Funny how one need to study Arabic to understand qquran Islam and muhamed...

Then you learn Arabic the next you will hear is the classical tongue, 7 ways of understanding Quran ....ask yourself what kind of confusion is this?

My friend I have answered you even on your ignorance...

Saalaaaat means prayer.
The way Muslim deny Quranic verses eeh.
I updated my response please check. Then I don't know what your native tongue is but obviously certain words in it have meanings determined by context.

Can you clearly pick out the Arabic word salat in the verse you refer too? Do this so we can close
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 5:23pm On Nov 24, 2025
Explore2xmore:
I updated my response please check. Then I don't know what your native tongue is but obviously certain words in it have meanings determined by context.

Can you clearly pick out the Arabic word salat in the verse you refer too? Do this so we can close
Is very simple


What does salat means?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 5:31pm On Nov 24, 2025
BlackfireX:
Is very simple


What does salat means?
That has long been established. Show this salat in the Arabic or transliteration of Quran 33:56 or is this not possible?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 6:13am On Nov 25, 2025
Explore2xmore:
I updated my response please check. Then I don't know what your native tongue is but obviously certain words in it have meanings determined by context.

Can you clearly pick out the Arabic word salat in the verse you refer too? Do this so we can close
What is salat?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 9:51am On Nov 25, 2025
BlackfireX:
What is salat?
Is the problem the reading or the understanding?

Explore2xmore:
For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer.
Do you not have a grasp of what you are saying or is it quickly forgotten?

BlackfireX:
You should take your own advise

Now the word used is salat which means prayer.

Now the words you are using that it means blessings is not salaat instead it is barakat


Saaaalat means prayer
Barakat means blessings [/b]



O Allah send your Salat to/ on muhamed


[b]If salat is prayer
who is Allah praying to on behalf of Muhammad ? Or is he prayimg to Muhammad( the High One, the one that should be praised, the intetcessor) all this from muhamed 99 names .



Salat is prayer
Don't play altaqiyya with me
You came to conclusions on what salat is on at least two occasions in response to my post. Remember you say you love Arabic but it appears you don't understand what you claim to love?

Haven established one meaning of salat at least for one context. Now show this exact word Salat in Arabic or transliteration in Quran 33:56 unless you now accept your lies and agree to your unsubstantiated mocking of mischievous intent.

Then provide a definition of altaqiyya from the Arabic you love.

Remember too:
Explore2xmore:
You state being in love with Arabic in your response to Olabrad but loving something and properly understanding it are not the same.
In the phrase Allah sends salah upon the Prophet pbuh . The verb form of salah used shifts its meaning depending on who’s using it. For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer. In Qur’an 33:43, when it says, He is the One who yusalli upon you, it highlights Allah’s role in guiding believers from darkness into light, showcasing His divine favor. [b]Is Allah praying to believers here? [/b]Compare to the one you apparently are critical of as it applies to prophet Muhammad pbuh; Quran 33:56 Indeed, Allah and His angels yusalluna upon the Prophet…”

Classical scholars like Ibn al-Athir and al-Tabari clarify that Allah’s salah is more about commendation than worship. When believers send salah, they’re simply joining in the act of honoring the Prophet pbuh.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 1:38pm On Nov 25, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Is the problem the reading or the understanding?



Do you not have a grasp of what you are saying or is it quickly forgotten?



You came to conclusions on what salat is on at least two occasions in response to my post. Remember you say you love Arabic but it appears you don't understand what you claim to love?

Haven established one meaning of salat at least for one context. Now show this exact word Salat in Arabic or transliteration in Quran 33:56 unless you now accept your lies and agree to your unsubstantiated mocking of mischievous intent.

Then provide a definition of altaqiyya from the Arabic you love.

Remember too:
i ask you a simple question what is the meaning of salaat ?


throwing up words wont help you. since you are mixing things up ... lets start from the basics


what does salah means? infact that is even the topic of this threaad ....what is Salaat?



let me ask you again what is salat ? forget the explanation ...lets start from the basics


what is salaat?

please this time don't tell Mickley mouse story.

Don't divert from mecca to medina

Don't allow shaitan to use black dog to scare you


What is salat in arabic?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 1:55pm On Nov 25, 2025
BlackfireX:
i ask you a simple question what is the meaning of salaat ?


throwing up words wont help you. since you are mixing things up ... lets start from the basics


what does salah means? infact that is even the topic of this threaad ....what is Salaat?



let me ask you again what is salat ? forget the explanation ...lets start from the basics


what is salaat?

please this time don't tell Mickley mouse story.

Don't divert from mecca to medina

Don't allow shaitan to use black dog to scare you


What is salat in arabic?
Aha! Exposed he doesn't know what salat is in Arabic. Cannot detect it in the Arabic of the verse or any other place and he is here blabbing. It's very obvious you don't know what you state.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Expanse2020(m): 2:58pm On Nov 25, 2025
BlackfireX:
Habibi I don't know what is troubling your soul but I pray the Yasua Al massih will heal you and lead you to him, Amen.


Now back to the questions ... I believe you are an Adult and somehow educated, this is a conversation not tantrum throwing.


I ask a question you answer, then you ask me a question I will answer you, can you do that?

So do you want to ask or should I?
And let's stick to the topic to be discussed.

Shukraan
Find who?
🤣🤣🤣
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 3:39pm On Nov 25, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Aha! Exposed he doesn't know what salat is in Arabic. Cannot detect it in the Arabic of the verse or any other place and he is here blabbing. It's very obvious you don't know what you state.
So what is SALAAT?
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by olabrad: 8:37pm On Nov 26, 2025
Explore2xmore:
Is the problem the reading or the understanding?



Do you not have a grasp of what you are saying or is it quickly forgotten?



You came to conclusions on what salat is on at least two occasions in response to my post. Remember you say you love Arabic but it appears you don't understand what you claim to love?

Haven established one meaning of salat at least for one context. Now show this exact word Salat in Arabic or transliteration in Quran 33:56 unless you now accept your lies and agree to your unsubstantiated mocking of mischievous intent.

Then provide a definition of altaqiyya from the Arabic you love.

Remember too:
Salat in Arabic means prayer or praise in English. there is no other meaning.

Writing long post will not change the fact that allah prays for muhamed or praised muhamed.

The first instances shows that there is someone greater than allah. The second instance shows that muhamed is greater than allah.

Lying and twisting facts can't save Islam. The world is wiser now.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 10:51pm On Nov 26, 2025
olabrad:
Salat in Arabic means prayer or praise in English. there is no other meaning.

Writing long post will not change the fact that allah prays for muhamed or praised muhamed.

The first instances shows that there is someone greater than allah. The second instance shows that muhamed is greater than allah.

Lying and twisting facts can't save Islam. The world is wiser now.
Ok. Read the verse in Arabic and ascertain who makes salat for Muhammad is this what Allah does? Just show that what Allah does is Salat.
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by BlackfireX: 4:22pm On Nov 28, 2025
olabrad:
Salat in Arabic means prayer or praise in English. there is no other meaning.

Writing long post will not change the fact that allah prays for muhamed or praised muhamed.

The first instances shows that there is someone greater than allah. The second instance shows that muhamed is greater than allah.

Lying and twisting facts can't save Islam. The world is wiser now.
Don't blame the munafiki he is doing dawah of altaqiyya.

Salat means prayer, but if you say is blessings that will ve wrong as blessings means barakat.


So o Allah send your salat on Muhammad

Either it meaans 4 things
1. Allah is praying to another Allah for Muhammad
2.Allah is praying to Muhammad
3.the men who wrote it down made a mistake or are confused.
4. That muhamed is the man behind Allah, why? This are some of the 99 names. The High one, the praised one, the intercessor, the nazaarite


The truth is inevitable
Re: Nullifiers Of Solaat by Explore2xmore: 6:09am On Nov 29, 2025
In the Hebrew Bible, the root word barakh illustrates how Semitic languages can use a single verb in various ways, depending on the subject, similar to the Arabic salah. When God is the subject, barakh translates to bless or bestow favor, as seen in Genesis 12:2: I will bless you.However, when humans take the subject role, the same verb shifts to mean praise or glorify God, like in Psalm 103:1: Bless the LORD, O my soul. Interestingly, this root can also imply kneeling, which signifies physical humility, as mentioned in Nehemiah 8:6. No Jew or Christian interprets this to mean that humans are empowering God or that God kneels. Instead, they understand that the meaning changes based on who is performing the action. This concept is mirrored in Arabic, where sala and yusallu in the Qur’an demonstrate how one root can convey multiple meanings, all shaped by context and subject rather than a rigid, one-size-fits-all translation.
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