₦airaland Forum

Putindbutt:
These military coupists do not have sense, they are the worst at everything most especially in administrative governance. They always leave the country worse off than they met it. Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso are much worse now than when they took over. Jihadists are taking more territories, killing more soldiers. Human right abuse getting much worse, corruption at an all time high. And there have been attempts of counter coups, which clearly suggested that the Juntas are not providing the solutions needed hence the need to even overthrow them too.
Secondly, I blame Gen Yakubu Gowon for this mess. When President Tinubu was trying to nib this in the bud, Gowon wrote a letter to Tinubu pleading with him to reverse his decisions against Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso. Being the founder of ECOWAS, he wouldn't want to witness the disintegration of the body. Well, President Tinubu listened to him, reversed his decisions and lifted all sanctions against the countries and then asked them to return to ECOWAS. Now see how other military coupists are being emboldened because there was no severe consequences for the earlier criminals. If Gen Yakubu Gowon had allowed the President followed through on his actions and make an example of the coupists, it would have sent a strong warnings to every military forces on the continent of Africa.

exactly!!! ECOWAS should have taken decisive action against Niger after the coup. I knew there will be more coups because ECOWAS did nothing. I expecting even more coups in the future.

ufotunang:
..we all want Peter Obi for 2027 ..he will provide good governance and address the issues and problems Nigerians and Nigeria is facing

Then stop calling for army rule then

Madmohamed1:
Soon Ghana will condem military coup in Nigeria.

Funny, those praying for coup in Nigeria are either kids during Abacha or not yet born then? Una eye go clear.

helinues:
How many years has Tinubu used as a president compared to those you listed?

Racoon, it's trespassing for you to be discussing politics. You are not good at it at all

And you think being overly partisan is being good at politics?

Instead of strengthening democratic institutions African leaders focus on strengthening their grip on power. They are not interested in giving their people good governance but they rather focus on enriching themselves.
That's the root cause of these coups.

Putindbutt:
These military coupists do not have sense, they are the worst at everything most especially in administrative governance. They always leave the country worse off than they met it. Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso are much worse now than when they took over. Jihadists are taking more territories, killing more soldiers. Human right abuse getting much worse, corruption at an all time high. And there have been attempts of counter coups, which clearly suggested that the Juntas are not providing the solutions needed hence the need to even overthrow them too.
Secondly, I blame Gen Yakubu Gowon for this mess. When President Tinubu was trying to nib this in the bud, Gowon wrote a letter to Tinubu pleading with him to reverse his decisions against Niger, Mali and Burkina Faso. Being the founder of ECOWAS, he wouldn't want to witness the disintegration of the body. Well, President Tinubu listened to him, reversed his decisions and lifted all sanctions against the countries and then asked them to return to ECOWAS. Now see how other military coupists are being emboldened because there was no severe consequences for the earlier criminals. If Gen Yakubu Gowon had allowed the President followed through on his actions and make an example of the coupists, it would have sent a strong warnings to every military forces on the continent of Africa.

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Military government has been the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria. Those who complained were those who didn't have the opportunity to live the way the politicians are doing now. For one, things get done quicker and decisions got taken faster.

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Brightest04:
Abeg you're not the only one who witnessed military regimes in Nigeria. I want to tell you things were very much ok, no bandits kidnapping people to take their pounds of blood. The North was peaceful as well as the south. So what do you have to say

I don't know what you are driving at in your post because there are historical errors in your post with banditry from the Chadian "Kwanta Kwanta" bandits going on in the North of Nigeria especially in the North East from the 1980s right beyond the year 2000. If you are old enough like myself and some other OGs here and on other online platforms, you WOULD be aware that times have changed worldwide from what those Military boys experienced in their time as Military dictators in government with the highly corrupt Sani Abacha looting over 4 billion USD of Nigeria's money via the Central Bank of Nigeria into his personal offshore bank accounts. As of today, Nigeria is still receiving parts of that money back in what is famously known worldwide as the "Abacha LOOT" which the thief stole with his minions. There was NO freedom of speech as well with media outlets being raided constantly and editors thrown into jail, while many political assasinations of prominent people took place from the IBB years to the Abacha years. If you advocate for a Military coup under Military rule like many of these uninformed, anti-demicratic young ones (especially mainly from the South East of Nigeria have been doing right here on NL calling for a coup against the now President 'Bola Tinubu) you will be arrested and face execution.

The security situation was NOT as critical as this same one of the years from 2000 to 2025 with the entire West African region and the world. The rise of these crazy jihadi terror groups such as JNIM, Al-Qaeda, BH, ISWAP, foreign Fula militia bandits, and Al-Shabab of Somalia have made the world far unsafer than during the military years of Yakubu Gowon to Abdulsalami Abubakar which I personally witnessed.

Even during the Military years of Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida in the 1980s we had the menace of the interstate armed robberies of Lawrence Anini and his gang, the Chadian highway robbers called Kwanta Kwanta killing, kidnapping and raping women while operating on major highways of the Old Borno State for many years even after the year 2000 Kwanta Kwanta bandits still operated, Maitatsine religious riots in several states of Northern Nigeria led by a Fula religious fundamentalist from Cameroon in the early 1980s, interstate highway robberies every week by criminal gangs from the South East of Nigeria and some from Delta (even right in the FCT, Plateau and more) right from the late 1980s into the 1990s. My biological father got shot by one of such highly robbery gangs from the South East of Nigeria origin in 1991 on his way to Jos with other associates of his for an international conference. A major operation had to be done on him to remove the bullets lodged in his and stitch up his face which the armed robber used his AK-47 to hit. Police investigators eventually caught some of the gun-weilding boys who were all in their 20s. They hid their weapons armory in Kano to evade detection, and one of them who was fidgeting was caught at Mallam Aminu Kano Airport by suspicious Police detectives while trying to escape to the South of Nigeria.

So, do NOT try to compare the Military dictatorship years to this democratic era BECAUSE security, economic, political and social circumstances are totally different! In terms of freedom of speech, democracy is still BETTER than the Military years.

Besides how have those Military coup plotters in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger Republic been able to handle the Tuareg terrorists (JNIM) who have invaded their counties (with the fall of Muamar Gaddafi of Libya) been able to handle security? ZERO! As I speak, since the Russians were invited to (replacing the French and Americans) assist those 3 countries, things have got far WORSE with over HALF of Burkina Faso, more than HALF of Mali and Niger Republic are NOW in the hands of the Al-Qaeda affiliated JNIM jihadi group with headquarters in Mali. The founders of JNIM Islamist terror group are Tuaregs of Northern Mali and Niger Republic who used to be Muamar Gaddafi's fighters and bodyguards who are now trying to take over control of Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger Republic and spread to Benin Republic, Togo, Nigeria. I speak as a man who has advanced knowledge of global geopolitical dynamics here.

InvertedHammer:
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Military government has been the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria. Those who complained were those who didn't have the opportunity to live the way the politicians are doing now. For one, things get done quicker and decisions got taken faster.

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Your post right ABOVE isn't coming from a very informed historical position. You definitely are NOT a Baby-boomer or a Generation X (who was born between 1965 to 1979) for you to unfortunately openly support the military dictatorships that existed over there in Nigeria. Things got done quicker and that's one aspect BUT were the quick decisions done with less corruption and with due diligence? Under these days of democracies, you have more scrutiny of projects and the politicians and technocrats in government get called out if contracts are inflated. With the military guys, if you call out their corruption, they'll arrest you and even assassinate you like what happened in 1986 to the renowned Bendel State-born investigative journalist 'Dele Giwa who was blown up military style in his Ikeja residence via the FIRST EVER parcel bombing of an individual.

That highly IRRESPONSIBLE and notoriously corrupt Sani Abacha looting over 4 billion USD of Nigeria's money via the Central Bank of Nigeria into his personal offshore bank accounts. As of today, Nigeria is still receiving parts of that money back in what is famously known worldwide as the "Abacha LOOT" which the thief stole with his minions. There was NO freedom of speech as well with media outlets being raided constantly and editors thrown into jail, while many political assasinations of prominent people took place from the IBB years to the Abacha years. If you advocate for a Military coup under Military rule like many of these uninformed, anti-demicratic young ones (especially mainly from the South East of Nigeria have been doing right here on NL calling for a coup against the now President 'Bola Tinubu) you will be arrested and face execution

The Okigbo Panel ALSO emphasized on the massive corruption that took place under IBB years with reference to the Gulf Oil windfall as a result of Operations Desert Storm and Desert Shield from 1990 to 1991 to curtail Sadam Hussein's invasion and annexation of the oil-rich Kuwait by Iraq as one of it's provinces.

I can go on and on about the negatives of military rule on Nigeria with reference to monies that could have been properly spent on infrastructure but we're siphoned and these Military dictators and their military and civilian associates became overnight multimillionaires from suppliting bad imported fuel and the land grabbings from 1985 in Festac Town under the corrupt IBB years thereby distorting the Festac Town masterplan with the conversation of gardens and designated parks into lands for property construction of massive mansions for the use of Ibrahim Babangida and his Military cronies. Any oppositions were met with ruthless forces.

I lived in Festac Town from the early 1980s when the duplexes on 5th Avenue were still being constructed and had NOT all been occupied and I knew how Festac Town was well laid out and was comparable to the BEST residential estates in Europe and America back in the early 1980s, BUT by the early 1990s, mansions had been constructed on sewage systems and some drainage channels by people linked to the newly minted military boys bourgeoisie of the corrupt IBB years thereby causing future blockages of drainage water flow. Festac Town is a metaphor for how the Military rule destroyed infrastructure and even abandoned several vital projects meant for the sustainable development of Nigeria.

AlphaTaikun:
Your post right ABOVE isn't coming from a very informed historical position. You definitely are NOT a Baby-boomer or a Generation X (who was born between 1965 to 1979) for you to unfortunately openly support the military dictatorships that existed over there in Nigeria. Things got done quicker and that's one aspect BUT were the quick decisions done with less corruption and with due diligence? Under these days of democracies, you have more scrutiny of projects and the politicians and technocrats in government get called out if contracts are inflated. With the military guys, if you call out their corruption, they'll arrest you and even assassinate you like what happened in 1986 to the renowned Bendel State-born investigative journalist 'Dele Giwa who was blown up military style in his Ikeja residence via the FIRST EVER parcel bombing of an individual.

That highly IRRESPONSIBLE and notoriously corrupt Sani Abacha looting over 4 billion USD of Nigeria's money via the Central Bank of Nigeria into his personal offshore bank accounts. As of today, Nigeria is still receiving parts of that money back in what is famously known worldwide as the "Abacha LOOT" which the thief stole with his minions. There was NO freedom of speech as well with media outlets being raided constantly and editors thrown into jail, while many political assasinations of prominent people took place from the IBB years to the Abacha years. If you advocate for a Military coup under Military rule like many of these uninformed, anti-demicratic young ones (especially mainly from the South East of Nigeria have been doing right here on NL calling for a coup against the now President 'Bola Tinubu) you will be arrested and face execution

The Okigbo Panel ALSO emphasized on the massive corruption that took place under IBB years with reference to the Gulf Oil windfall as a result of Operations Desert Storm and Desert Shield from 1990 to 1991 to curtail Sadam Hussein's invasion and annexation of the oil-rich Kuwait by Iraq as one of it's provinces.

I can go on and on about the negatives of military rule on Nigeria with reference to monies that could have been properly spent on infrastructure but we're siphoned and these Military dictators and their military and civilian associates became overnight multimillionaires from suppliting bad imported fuel and the land grabbings from 1985 in Festac Town under the corrupt IBB years thereby distorting the Festac Town masterplan with the conversation of gardens and designated parks into lands for property construction of massive mansions for the use of Ibrahim Babangida and his Military cronies. Any oppositions were met with ruthless forces.

I lived in Festac Town from the early 1980s when the duplexes on 5th Avenue were still being constructed and had NOT all been occupied and I knew how Festac Town was well laid out and was comparable to the BEST residential estates in Europe and America back in the early 1980s, BUT by the early 1990s, mansions had been constructed on sewage systems and some drainage channels by people linked to the newly minted military boys bourgeoisie of the corrupt IBB years thereby causing future blockages of drainage water flow. Festac Town is a metaphor for how the Military rule destroyed infrastructure and even abandoned several vital projects meant for the sustainable development of Nigeria.

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The funny thing is that you just gave full analysis of Nigerian democracy from 1999 till date except that then Nigerians could boast of better security, naira was stable, inflation was manageable and government was run with less bureaucracy.

In our democracy, critics are being arrested and imprisoned, corruption is entrenched with impunity, unregulated real estate developments prevail. Do we talk about Turn Around Maintenance in the refineries or the unremitted billions of naira to the Federation account by NNPCL?

You alleged that Sani Abacha looted $4 bn. But OBJ blew $16 billion in Power/Electricity scam. The worst thing that happened to Abacha was death. Otherwise we wouldn't have heard about his loot like his colleagues. Please do tell which regime was/is not corrupt in Nigeria if that's the yardstick you want to embrace.

In this your democracy in the last two years, inflation has gone parabolic, insecurity is everywhere, wanton looting of the treasury is prevalent and those who dare criticize the politicians end up in jail.



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InvertedHammer:
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The funny thing is that you just gave full analysis of Nigerian democracy from 1999 till date except that then Nigerians could boast of better security, naira was stable, inflation was manageable and government was run with less bureaucracy.

In our democracy, critics are being arrested and imprisoned, corruption is entrenched with impunity, unregulated real estate developments prevail. Do we talk about Turn Around Maintenance in the refineries or the unremitted billions of naira to the Federation account by NNPCL?

You alleged that Sani Abacha looted $4 bn. But OBJ blew $16 billion in Power/Electricity scam. The worst thing that happened to Abacha was death. Otherwise we wouldn't have heard about his loot like his colleagues. Please do tell which regime was/is not corrupt in Nigeria if that's the yardstick you want to embrace.

In this your democracy in the last two years, inflation has gone parabolic, insecurity is everywhere, wanton looting of the treasury is prevalent and those who dare criticize the politicians end up in jail.
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Some of your points are valid especially with the monies spent on electricity generation during the OBJ years. However, we are talking about outright STEALING of over $4 billion back in the late 1990s via the Central Bank of Nigeria by Abacha and his cohorts into his foreign offshore bank accounts which were detected after he passed on. That's unprecedented in the history of Nigeria. The Turn-around maintenance problems and destruction of the 4 State-owned refineries started during the military dictatorship years. Turn-around maintenance is supposed to be done every 2 years BUT these highly corrupt military guys ensured the funding wasn't properly made so as to use the opportunity to give contracts to themselves, family members and friends to import bad fuel (high lead content) into Nigeria with Abacha's daughter being one of the importers of bad fuel into Nigeria and she made millions from that despite being exposed by the guerilla investigative media outfits at that time.

BUT just as I CLEARLY stated, in a democratic government, you can get called out by the citizens and civil societies over there in Nigeria if you deviate from the norm and that's the beauty of it as we get to see the Federal and State lawmakers and the governments at various levels retrace their steps when they make errors of judgement OR they fine-tune their policies much better. The constitutional review in almost done and that would ensure that State Policing is decentralized and more. Decision-making can be slower than in the highly corrupt military dictatorship days, BUT a democratic government is preferred than any other.

Cheers.

AlphaTaikun:
Some of your points are valid especially with the monies spent on electricity generation during the OBJ years. However, we are talking about outright STEALING of over $4 billion back in the late 1990s via the Central Bank of Nigeria by Abacha and his cohorts into his foreign offshore bank accounts which were detected after he passed on. That's unprecedented in the history of Nigeria. The Turn-around maintenance problems and destruction of the 4 State-owned refineries started during the military dictatorship years. Turn-around maintenance is supposed to be done every 2 years BUT these highly corrupt military guys ensured the funding wasn't properly made so as to use the opportunity to give contracts to themselves, family members and friends to import bad fuel (high lead content) into Nigeria with Abacha's daughter being one of the importers of bad fuel into Nigeria and she made millions from that despite being exposed by the guerilla investigative media outfits at that time.

BUT just as I CLEARLY stated, in a democratic government, you can get called out by the citizens and civil societies over there in Nigeria if you deviate from the norm and that's the beauty of it as we get to see the Federal and State lawmakers and the governments at various levels retrace their steps when they make errors of judgement OR they fine-tune their policies much better. The constitutional review in almost done and that would ensure that State Policing is decentralized and more. Decision-making can be slower than in the highly corrupt military dictatorship days, BUT a democratic government is preferred than any other.

Cheers.

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Constitutional review? Please do tell. Which regime did not embark on Constitutional review that yielded nothing--just mere academic exercise? And you believe that Tinubu's case will be different? Perhaps you were one of those who believed that the removal of subsidy would transform Nigeria into El Dorado. It gets worse. Perhaps you were one of those that erroneously believed that Tinubu built Lagos. Someone who stands for nothing falls for everything.

Talking about Abacha loot vs OBJ's loot. It is apparent and abashedly glaring that your primary concern is the means and not the result. Theft is theft. The end doesn't justify the means. In both cases, $4 billion and $16 billion disappeared respectively without a trace.

I will personally campaign for Tinubu in 2027. Not because he is competent but because I want Nigerians to fully live the consequences of their stupidity. Why stop halfway?

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