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yingman:
Your profile fits more into the education category than health. Even though your degree is microbiology, the work experience IRCC will judge is the type of job you did, teaching biology in secondary school.

As long as your reference letter clearly shows your duties as a teacher and matches the NOC for secondary school teacher (NOC 41221), you can qualify for the education targeted draw.

Greenarrow01:
Hello pls how long did it take you to learn french
Or were you a speaker before ?

Sheron50:
It depends on your case and the documents you submitted. Sometimes IRCC may need additional verification as per ur case and that can take up to 1 to 3 months. What ADR did you receive?”

amnotapervert:
Bill 96 (passed in 2022) and the more recent Bill 84 are the reasons why the federal government bent over for Quebec on July 7, 2023, and carried out the first French-based category draw, Even tho express entry Draw as we all know it since January 31, 2015

Calm down I do not type what I don’t know. So ask yourself this: if language is truly a “skill,” why doesn’t the government run English-based draws the same way it pushes only French-based draws? Please answer that question.

you might say we have more English speakers than French but that's all over the world as french is a dying language and most French speakers out of their country have another language they speake.

Quebec is the only province with a comprehensive accord that gives it sole responsibility for selecting most of its economic immigrants and setting its own annual immigration targets. This means that, while other provinces have a significant voice in immigration selection through the PNP, Quebec is the only jurisdiction in Canada that runs a virtually parallel system for economic immigration ..one the federal government is legally required to recognize and support.

If you understand Canadian politics and the French -English dynamic stemming from the Quebec sovereignty movement including the key periods (1960s–1970s rise of the movement, the 1980 referendum, and the 1995 referendum) you will understand the bigger picture.

Equalization payments since 1957 are another reason the government keeps Quebec satisfied enough to remain within Canada.

This is not the forum to dive into every detail, but the reality is that the federal government goes out of its way to appease Quebec and the French-category draw is just another example of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_payments_in_Canada
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/policies-operational-instructions-agreements/ministerial-instructions/express-entry-rounds.html
https://www.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/lois_et_reglements/LoisAnnuelles/en/2022/2022C14A.PDF

freshStarz:
Even with no education or teaching certificate?

Zeemaan:
Is it also necessary to submit this page together with the other paper that one is given after upfront immigration medical exam?
Because I honestly don't understand what they wrote here and I don't want to upload something that'll cause me problems.

Ontarioo:
It's important that your contribution here on this thread should be based on experience, hence you're going to mislead a lot of people that relied solely on the information provided on this thread for their visa application. It's okay to use AI/Google, but make sure it's right and tested.

Attached below is a screenshot of a rejection letter of someone that used the same information that you provided here. (Though not from you)

Ontarioo:
It's important that your contribution here on this thread should be based on experience, hence you're going to mislead a lot of people that relied solely on the information provided on this thread for their visa application. It's okay to use AI/Google, but make sure it's right and tested.

Attached below is a screenshot of a rejection letter of someone that used the same information that you provided here. (Though not from you)

Ontarioo:
It's important that your contribution here on this thread should be based on experience, hence you're going to mislead a lot of people that relied solely on the information provided on this thread for their visa application. It's okay to use AI/Google, but make sure it's right and tested.

Attached below is a screenshot of a rejection letter of someone that used the same information that you provided here. (Though not from you)

yingman:
You can use your teaching experience, but you must choose the correct NOC.
IRCC checks duties, yes, but for regulated jobs like secondary school teacher (NOC 41220), officers also look at the NOC’s employment requirements. That is why the person in the screenshot was refused, they claimed a teacher NOC that requires a B.Ed or teaching licence.

If you don’t have a teaching qualification, don’t use NOC 41220.
Use a different teaching-related NOC that does not require a teaching certificate, such as teacher assistant (NOC 43100). That one is acceptable without B.Ed and you can still use it for Express Entry.

Teaching (NOC 41220 / 41221) is a regulated occupation in Canada.

The NOC profile says:

“Employment requirements: Teachers of academic subjects require a bachelor’s degree in education OR a bachelor’s degree in the arts or sciences.”

This is EXACTLY the section shown in the screenshot of the rejection letter.

This means the visa officer can question your experience if you do not hold the minimum educational requirement listed in the NOC.

This is why the person in the screenshot was refused.

NiceTri:
Take the kind corrections and move on bro. Your first post stated "For Express Entry and the education draw". Let people with personal experience help others based on what they know. It'd be easier that way. It's not compulsory it has to be you. It's not just this post alone, myself I have read some of your posts in the past and faulted it but chose to mind my business. It's all love my brother.

yingman:
You don’t need one full year in your current NOC as long as you already have one full year of skilled work in any eligible NOC. It does not have to be the same one you choose as primary.

But IRCC must be able to verify whichever NOC you choose as primary. If the support worker job cannot be proven with a proper letter, don’t use it. IT role in Nigeria has 4.5 years and seems easier to prove. That is safer as primary NOC.

You can change your primary NOC after ITA, just explain it in your LOE.

Best strategy:
• Use the job you can prove clearly as primary NOC.
• Add your current social services job as secondary experience.
• You don’t need to wait for January unless you want to make social services your primary NOC.

Do not decline ITA yet. First try using the IT role as primary with correct documents. If that one is solid, you are safe.

IRCC only refuses when duties cannot be verified. Choose the job you can prove strongest. Everything else can still count as additional experience.

Ontarioo:
1. Yes, you get two more cert with the combination (Bsc + BCS cert in IT)
2.No

yingman:
For Express Entry and the education draw, IRCC is looking at your NOC and your actual duties, not whether you hold a B.Ed or TRCN licence. As long as your reference letter from the school is strong (on letterhead, shows you taught biology in secondary school, hours per week, dates, and duties that match secondary school teacher NOC), it can count as skilled teaching experience.

The teaching certificate matter comes in later if you want to work as a licensed teacher in Canada, not for claiming the work experience for Express Entry.

Ontarioo:
No, you're good.

codedarrow:
Hi,
Please can anyone help answer bold questions on my PR application
Has XXXXXXXXbeen refused refugee status, or an immigrant or permanent resider visa (including a Certificat de sélection du Québec (CSQ) or application to the Provincial nominee Program) or visitor or temporary resident visa, to Canada or any other country? (required)

Has XXXXXXXX ever been refused a visa or permit, denied entry or ordered to leave
Canada or any other country?: (required)
Please note: I have been denied US visa before and my PR application returned as incomplete before.

NiceTri:
Your answer is yes for both.
What do you mean by "incomplete"? It's either you're denied with a rejection letter or banned.

smartkester:
I heard Canada is about to open new path way to Permanent Residency, something related to joining the armed forces. Please anyone with better information should help out.

yingman:
Express Entry does not give extra points for being a single mother. CRS only checks if you are applying with a spouse or alone.

So it is better to apply as single person without dependents. That gives higher CRS and lower proof of funds.

If she has a child, she must declare the child but apply as principal applicant single. That is allowed and many have done it. This gives her better CRS for the trade

Farawayman:
You are probably mixing the information up, I am a PR and an applicant for the Canadian AIrforce, from what I know, previously, only Citizens could apply to the armed forces, but recently, they opened it up to Permanent residents too, so this is what I think you came across. But maybe something else is cooking, I can't say.

yingman:
You can use your teaching experience, but you must choose the correct NOC.
IRCC checks duties, yes, but for regulated jobs like secondary school teacher (NOC 41220), officers also look at the NOC’s employment requirements. That is why the person in the screenshot was refused, they claimed a teacher NOC that requires a B.Ed or teaching licence.

If you don’t have a teaching qualification, don’t use NOC 41220.
Use a different teaching-related NOC that does not require a teaching certificate, such as teacher assistant (NOC 43100). That one is acceptable without B.Ed and you can still use it for Express Entry.

Teaching (NOC 41220 / 41221) is a regulated occupation in Canada.

The NOC profile says:

“Employment requirements: Teachers of academic subjects require a bachelor’s degree in education OR a bachelor’s degree in the arts or sciences.”

This is EXACTLY the section shown in the screenshot of the rejection letter.

This means the visa officer can question your experience if you do not hold the minimum educational requirement listed in the NOC.

This is why the person in the screenshot was refused.