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Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Badgers14: 10:34pm On Dec 01, 2025
LeopardX:
Which conventional war Dem don fight before in the modern era?

Nevertheless, before US starts to 'enter' you, they will make sure their 'see finish' is complete, like they're doing to Russia through Ukraine.

Prayer of the new month: God abeg no let my enemies see me finish make my life no spoil.

USA don see Venezuela finish.
See ehn.. let me tell you something..

This is what China is doing (in my view).. China is more focused on economic warfare not military warfare.

Yes, they do have Nuclear weapon.. ✔️, they have other military high grade equipments etc.. but they dont use it, WHYhuh

One F -16 cost between $90m to $ 170m.

One Apache Helicopter cost about $ 50m..

Now, if China get into military conflicts with another country and lose one f16, thats more than 100m down the drain..

I am not adding the cost of ballistic missile etx..

Instead, what China does is use that 100 or 200m to open a business in that country or give them loan.. in that way.. when the country go rouge against them.. they will pull the rugs and collapse their economy..

China owns the highest U.S treasury bills.. owes many companies in the U.S.. China owes the most farm land in Texas ... while they are investing in other countries, they are "allegegdly "secretly collecting intelligence on those countries.

If U.S challenges them.. they will pull the rug economically on the U.S and the U.S will be backed into the corner... the citizens will start complaining about the economy and the government will be hesitant to go to war with their reserve, since there focus will be to restart the economy and attend to the angry citizens, so the U.S response will be on the weaker side and if they use their last strength to engage China, China will finish them off..

Smart strategy...
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Mrexcell(m): 10:43pm On Dec 01, 2025
Brendaniel:
Looks like Trump is looking for a regime change, exactly what is really needed right now in Nigeria, for those who are talking about U.S coming to take oil from Venezuela, I'm not ruling that out, but I don't think that's the interest here, ask yourself a country with the largest oil reserves in the world is so poor and also if the oil was so profitable for them, why are the youths more into drug sales than oil?

Here it is:

1. The sulfur content in Venezuelan oil is one of the highest in the world making it harder and more costly to refine, so it is not attractive for buyers in the world like the Nigerian crude oil and some others, you see why it may not really make sense for the U.S to invade them for something that is not rushed after like others.

2. If a government is seen to be complicit in support of terror or drugs that is affecting the U.S directly then that could be another point, I saw some people mentioning Mexico in the other thread, but Mexico has recently improved their crackdown on drug cartels, though a lot of work still needs to be done and also have been partnering with U.S to take down cartels, I don't think it is the same with Venezuelan government.

3. Cartels know that these drugs come with addiction to the users and there are cases where they lure people with samples for free and the addiction starts which causes them to start stealing and wrecking their lives for the supply.

My question to those seeking Maduro to stay in power, I mean what exactly is the benefit of him staying in power while the country keeps sinking and getting poorer, their inflation was so bad at some point, they stopped counting money in supermarkets, they just bring a scale and weigh your money and give you the item you purchase, price of goods were now sold by weight of the money and not the value.

I even watched a prison documentary and if you think Nigerian prison is bad then you need to visit Venezuela, the prisoners carry guns inside the prison, they have their own police, they have their president and even court, prisoners sentence prisoners inside the prison, some prisoners don't want to leave the prison because it is safer for them due to cartel members looking for them to kill outside.

I notice a lot of people not supporting Trump are Tinubu supporters because they don't want same happening in Nigeria to Tinubu who is doing damage to Nigeria.
It's really very baffling to know that the US has such neighbours lurking around them trump deserves commendation for trying to help them restore order.
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by darediamond(m): 11:38pm On Dec 01, 2025
Brendaniel:
Looks like Trump is looking for a regime change, exactly what is really needed right now in Nigeria, for those who are talking about U.S coming to take oil from Venezuela, I'm not ruling that out, but I don't think that's the interest here, ask yourself a country with the largest oil reserves in the world is so poor and also if the oil was so profitable for them, why are the youths more into drug sales than oil?
C.I.A propaganda to the Brim!!
Does owners of USA cares about wellness of any NATION?
USA, the evil Workshop of Britain for Global Terror is interested in invading Nigeria not because of any Terror which C.I.A is being used to orchestrate. Nigeria I dependent mover in it oil industry is why USA suddenly start covertly shouting Christian Genocide like a dog with Rabies.
No argument Mr.
Nations around the world are tired of BRITAIN OWNED noMERICA!
Here it is:

1. The sulfur content in Venezuelan oil is one of the highest in the world making it harder and more costly to refine, so it is not attractive for buyers in the world like the Nigerian crude oil and some others, you see why it may not really make sense for the U.S to invade them for something that is not rushed after like others.

2. If a government is seen to be complicit in support of terror or drugs that is affecting the U.S directly then that could be another point, I saw some people mentioning Mexico in the other thread, but Mexico has recently improved their crackdown on drug cartels, though a lot of work still needs to be done and also have been partnering with U.S to take down cartels, I don't think it is the same with Venezuelan government.

3. Cartels know that these drugs come with addiction to the users and there are cases where they lure people with samples for free and the addiction starts which causes them to start stealing and wrecking their lives for the supply.

My question to those seeking Maduro to stay in power, I mean what exactly is the benefit of him staying in power while the country keeps sinking and getting poorer, their inflation was so bad at some point, they stopped counting money in supermarkets, they just bring a scale and weigh your money and give you the item you purchase, price of goods were now sold by weight of the money and not the value.

I even watched a prison documentary and if you think Nigerian prison is bad then you need to visit Venezuela, the prisoners carry guns inside the prison, they have their own police, they have their president and even court, prisoners sentence prisoners inside the prison, some prisoners don't want to leave the prison because it is safer for them due to cartel members looking for them to kill outside.

I notice a lot of people not supporting Trump are Tinubu supporters because they don't want same happening in Nigeria to Tinubu who is doing damage to Nigeria.
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by lightwind(m): 11:45pm On Dec 01, 2025
Stayingalive:
you dey mind them?
$

America that have been developing atomic bombs and different levels of munitions for the past 100 years now and still going on...

You want to use china who just started with their fake fake, amateur developments to compare with America.


Just like when you want to use your 100 steps to compare to another man's 1000steps...
Is that not foolishness at the highest level.


China that always go ahead in stealing other peoples technology to build their own etc....



This guys on nairaland just have hatred towards America.... And i am certain most of them here are Muslims.



$
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by ELKHALIFAISIS(m): 4:42am On Dec 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
Trump is looking for war at all cost.


He should try China nah.
china should try take back Taiwan
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by heniford2: 5:29am On Dec 02, 2025
MightySparrow:
Trump is looking for war at all cost.


He should try China nah.
China should invade Taiwan and see then 😉😁🤣
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by heniford2: 5:34am On Dec 02, 2025
yarimo:
remove NATO, America alone can't do anything to china or Russia.
even you follow the type this nonsense your above this now
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Brendaniel: 8:14am On Dec 02, 2025
[quote author=darediamond post=137662039][/quote]You have every right to believe in your assertions but if it is not the truth it is not the truth...
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Brendaniel: 8:36am On Dec 02, 2025
Vision101:
Let Trump come na. Worst case he removes Tinubu with his power. That will not change Tinubu's wealth or life. Then which person will Trump install and from which tribe? And you believe that Tinubu's tribe will keep quiet having known the hatred and circumstances that led to his removal? Can Trump manage the fall out that will develop through his actions? Meanwhile while Nigerian tribes are fighting themselves trump and his America will be busy pondering our wealth.
That's the problem with you guys, you guys see everything from tribal lens, so even when people try to do good things that will help the country , you guys start to see it from tribal lens and fight to stop that good thing...

Who told you it is all about removing a Yoruba man, Tinubu is not working, whoever they put can come from anywhere even it is Osinbajo it is still far better than having Tinubu there...

Who cares where the person comes from, let the country work for everyone, I want a country that works for everybody, if it is Fulani that would go there and make the country work, I am ready to support him for life time president.

You think most Igbos are asking for Biafra because we just hate Nigeria, No, it is because Nigeria is not working the way it should and it is because of mainly people like you who will put tribe first before thinking about the progress of a country...

Look at the Nigeria of today, are you proud to say this is the Nigeria you dream of under Tinubu?

If an Igbo man is president, what is my gain if he destroying the country like Tinubu is doing?

I would rather have an Indian or Chinese as president and the country is working , who cares where the president comes from...

This is one major reason I want the country divide when I see people who reason like you especially from your region, I notice you people are plenty, it is more of an ideology, supremacist ideology for your tribe at the detriment of the progress of the country .
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by shogsman(m): 8:46am On Dec 02, 2025
runningriot:
The smaller nations no have China and Russia as a defense. Make dem move body na!
clown is that why he is going around like a b*tch threatening countries that doesn't give a damn about him, make dem move body, see your mumu analogy, who is threatening who here
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Brendaniel: 8:49am On Dec 02, 2025
RivalryChat:
So you have never heard of western sanctions. The same strategy used against Zimbabwe. When will you people stop worshipping people that hate you. At what age will you be wise
Shut up! What hate could be more than your fellow Nigerian killing you and your people just because of your faith or your tribe and your government is in support?


And you talk about western sanctions, western sanctions mainly affects the citizens, hardly affects those perpetrating the crime..

Is it not a good thing to remove Tinubu and put somebody better, why must he be there and people are being killed and he is busy ruining the economy, what exactly is wrong with you people?

Does your support for your tribe take away sympathy reasoning and logic?
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Jovi10: 10:20am On Dec 02, 2025
Switruth:
Drug has a way of finding itself in any country ... The best is to take it to them...
Take it to them by destroying their country? As long as your people are craving for drugs they will find a way to bring it in. The problem is Americans who are craving for the drugs and not the sellers.
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by maasoap(m): 2:28pm On Dec 02, 2025
Switruth:
If them catch you for China with drugs... Forget life be that. Trump knows China has zero tolerance to drugs...
China doesn't even deny it. He accused Canada too.

Direct Involvement: It states that China's government has "subsidized and otherwise incentivized" chemical companies to export fentanyl and the chemicals used to make synthetic opioids destined for the U.S..
· Harboring Criminal Organizations: It accuses China of providing "support to and safe haven for" Chinese-origin transnational criminal organizations that launder drug money.
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by RivalryChat: 5:14pm On Dec 02, 2025
Brendaniel:
Shut up! What hate could be more than your fellow Nigerian killing you and your people just because of your faith or your tribe and your government is in support?


And you talk about western sanctions, western sanctions mainly affects the citizens, hardly affects those perpetrating the crime..

Is it not a good thing to remove Tinubu and put somebody better, why must he be there and people are being killed and he is busy ruining the economy, what exactly is wrong with you people?

Does your support for your tribe take away sympathy reasoning and logic?
Kiddo never in your life ask me to shut up...you have no idea for your own safety.
Re: 11 US Warships And 15,000 Troops Now In Caribbean As Venezuela Tension Escalate by Brendaniel:
RivalryChat:
Kiddo never in your life ask me to shut up...you have no idea for your own safety.
Apologies, but your choice of words are very poor, and I'm not a kid, I might even be older than you and you need to learn to talk to people with respect when responding...
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