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Truthseeker10:
Lol....who is the person talking in Rev 1:18 that said that he became dead? Can Alpha and Omega die?

Rev 1:18
New International Version
I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

zuto4u:
Thank you for this question. U asked "can Alpha and Omega die?" God can do anything He wishes, He can die if He wishes and He can also rise from death if He so wishes. The power of life and death lies in His hands, He can do whatever He wishes to do with them and however He wishes to do it.

Almighty God Jesus Christ chose to give his life, to teach us something about love. God is love. Jesus purposely gave His life for the redemption of mankind and He also rose from death on the 3rd day to demonstrate to us that death has no power over Him because He is the Alpha and Omega.
He can do whatever He chooses.

And mind you, the word "can" means "ability to". So to answer your question, "can Alpha and Omega die?" YES, Alpha and Omega has the ability to die and also has the ability to rise from death, that is why HE IS GOD!!!
May God open your mind.

Truthseeker10:
So when Jesus died, who raised him up?
Did Jesus wish to die or he was commanded to die?
Can God lie?

Truthseeker10:
So when Jesus died, who raised him up?

Did Jesus wish to die or he was commanded to die?

Can God lie?

zuto4u:
God can do anything He wishes, He can die if He wishes.

zuto4u:
He rose Himself up because He is God!

zuto4u:
He rose Himself up because He is God!

To your second question, Jesus wasn't commanded to die because no one can command God, He gave His life willingly. Remember that He talked about His death and how He would die before it eventually happened, He could have changed His mind if He wanted. He told His disciples how he planned to die and also warned them not to panic because He will rise again on the 3rd day.

To your third question; Again, God has the power to do whatever He wishes to do and however He wishes to do it. So YES! God can die if He so wishes and God can rise from death if He so wishes. Remember, He gave His life for the redemption of mankind and to also demonstrate His undying love for us sinners.

May God open your mind brother

MaxInDHouse:
Whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses. Act 3:15

You killed Jesus by nailing him to a cross. But God, the same God our fathers had, raised Jesus up from death. Act 5:30

zuto4u:
Jesus Christ is the same God that raised Himself up from the dead. Read John 14 Vs 7-9, and u will understand why I said Jesus Christ is the same God that raised Himself from the dead.

[7] Now that you have known me," he said to them,
"you will know my Father also, and from now on
you do know him and you have seen him."
[8] Philip said to him,"Lord, show us the Father,
that is all we need."
[9] Jesus answered,"For a long time I have been
with you all; yet you do not know me, Philip?
Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. Why,
then, do you say,'Show us the Father'?

"The same God our fathers had raised Jesus up from death". From this passage, u will notice they were talking about their forefathers who were long dead and gone. But the question is who were their fathers? They were Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Now, I can tell you that Jesus Christ is still the same God of their fathers. To understand this, read John 8:57-58

[57] They said to him, “You are not even fifty years old — and you have seen Abraham?”
[58] “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I Am’.”

May God open your mind brother

MaxInDHouse:
When someone says:
"if you have seen Seyi don't look for Tinubu because if you have seen Seyi you have seen Tinubu"
Does that mean the two individuals are the same person?🙂

MaxInDHouse:
When someone says:
"if you have seen Seyi don't look for Tinubu because if you have seen Seyi you have seen Tinubu"
Does that mean the two individuals are the same person?🙂

zuto4u:
Can Seyi claim to be in Tinubu and Tinubu in Seyi?

And besides, this is not a perfect comparison because when you say if u have seen Seyi don't look for Tinubu it simply means that it has been established that they are two separate individuals and can never be seen as one being. The person looking for Tinubu might simply tell Seyi, "you are not the one I am here for, go inside and call your father for me.

zuto4u:
Secondly, can Seyi claim to be the beginning and the end when there is Tinubu?

MaxInDHouse:
The same applies to God and Jesus since one always begs the other for help {Hebrews 5:7} refer to Him as his father (superior) and tell people that this is the same God he worships with them. John 20:17

According to Jesus he told his listeners to pray to his father when they privately need something {Matthew 6:6} which he himself always do {Matthew 14:23} but when it's about something involving the group Jesus said that involves him! Matthew 18:20

Why? Because that's the assignment he got from his father which involves all the worshipers of God including him! Matthew 28:20

So God differs from Jesus!

zuto4u:
I want to ask u a very simple question and I need an honest answer devoid of sentiments. Considering when Jesus Christ was born, between Him and Abraham who is older?

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham existed through reproductive system God implanted in Adam while Jesus existed as a spirit person in heaven before God transformed him to an embryo in the womb of Mary.
So talking of experience Jesus is older than Abraham because he is the first born of all creations! Colossians 1:15

zuto4u:
If Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God according to the verse you quoted, it simply means that Christ is God who made Himself a visible being just to fulfil His mission of dying on the cross for the redemption of mankind.

Colossians 1:13-14
[13]He rescued us from the power of darkness and brought us safe into the kingdom of his dear Son,
[14]by whom we are set free, that is, our sins are forgiven. Why must God bring us into the kingdom of his son and not His own kingdom since God is different from Jesus Christ? Are you saying that Almighty God does not have His own kingdom?


Colossians 1:17
[17]Christ existed before all things, and in union with him all things have their proper place. To the best of my knowledge, the only one that existed before all things is God Himself. So, if Jesus Christ isn't God, why did it say here that Christ existed before all things (without any exclusion)?


Colossians 1:28
[28]So we preach Christ to everyone. With all possible wisdom we warn and teach them in order to bring each one into God's presence as a mature individual in union with Christ. Why did the preacher chose to preach Christ to everyone instead of preaching God? Christ is one with God, Christ is God, and Christ is the creator of all things including heaven and earth.

Isaiah 9:6
[6]A child is born to us!     A son is given to us!     And he will be our ruler. He will be called, “Wonderful Counsellor”,     “Mighty God”, “Eternal Father”,     “Prince of Peace”.

Jesus Christ is the Almighty God.

May God open your mind brother

zuto4u:
If Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God according to the verse you quoted, it simply means that Christ is God who made Himself a visible being just to fulfil His mission of dying on the cross for the redemption of mankind.
May God open your mind brother

Truthseeker10:
Answer the questions below sir in the screenshots.

MaxInDHouse:
Now this is really really unscriptural and no disciple of Christ believe it!

zuto4u:
Let me ask you, who do u think is this Father Jesus Christ kept referring to?

Where was this Father since Jesus was before all things were created?

My brother, the Father He kept referring to is God and the God is still Jesus Christ, He is the "I AM"

He told you in the book of John 10:30

[30]The Father and I are one.”

He also told you in John 10:38

[38]But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, you should at least believe my deeds, in order that you may know once and for all that the Father is in me and that I am in the Father.”

My brother, God is divine, u need to understand the divinity of God.

If Jesus Christ is not God as you are insinuating, why didn't He rebuke Thomas when he called Him My Lord and my God?

John 20:28-29
[28]Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
[29]Jesus said to him, “Do you believe because you see me? How happy are those who believe without seeing me!”

To your last question "can God lie?". Again, the word "can" simply means "ability to". God has the ultimate ability to do anything He so pleases. God can do anything. God does not lie, but He can do all things.

May God open your mind my brother.

Truthseeker10:
1)Are you saying that Jesus and the Father are the same person, so when Jesus died, was it the father that died?

Please explain John 14:28 below.

King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

2)So according to John 10:18, Jesus commanded himself?

King James Bible
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.




Hebrews 6:18

King James Bible
That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Titus 1:2


King James Bible
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;


Does the verse above say it is possible for God to lie?

Does Titus say that God can lie?

Or should I leave what the verses says and listen to you?

zuto4u:
My brother, u keep on recycling all the questions that I have answered. Again, Jesus Christ is the same as the Father because they are ONE. U are free to think whatever you like. On the judgement day, u will answer for yourself and I will answer for myself.

again, God has the ability to do all things and that is why He is called the Omniscience God. I answered you by saying "God does not lie", but He has the ability to do whatsoever He wishes.

I asked you a question which u have not answered. If Jesus Christ is not God as you are asserting, why didn't He rebuke Thomas when he called him My Lord and my God?

If Jesus Christ is not God please explain Isaiah 9:6
[6]A child is born to us!     A son is given to us!     And he will be our ruler. He will be called, “Wonderful Counsellor”,     “Mighty God”, “Eternal Father”,     “Prince of Peace”.

And lastly, if Jesus Christ is not God according to u, please who is God and what is his name?

zuto4u:
My brother, may God open your mind and manifest Himself to you so that you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. This I pray in Jesus name amen 🙏