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MorataFC:
In the modern game, a goalkeeper’s role has evolved, yes, but the hierarchy of priorities has not changed.
Shot-stopping remains the core reason why a goalkeeper is signed any other attributes is just Jara. If a keeper is elite with his feet but weak at saving shots or commanding the box, he is just a midfielder with gloves in his hands 😂 not a reliable goalkeeper.

If the role of a goalkeeper is now 30 percent passing, 30 percent sweeping, 30 percent commanding the box, and only 10 percent shot-stopping, then why is every great goalkeeper’s legacy defined by the saves they made?

If you want the best passing goalkeeper, why not sign Onana?

We won our second UCL because we signed a keeper who is nowhere near Kepa’s level with the ball at his feet but super too good at preventing the ball from entering the net, that is the koko of a keeper.
A goalkeeper is rated based on goals he prevents from entering to the net, not passes completed. There is a reason why Pep dissed Ederson for him, unless you want to you know better than pep.

Android17:
We want him but Pep & his nonsense about small squad. So I'm not expecting anything this January even though I agree with you.

Gucciboy:
John Terry a defender has more career goals than iniesta. I don't need to talk about his Father lampard.

Android17:
Ederson was in goal last season when we beat NUFC 4-0. Use this your tail wagging the dog argument style for your fellow Chelsea fans bc it usually doesn't work on people like me that not only watch the games, but care about the team in question since it is the team I support.

Everybody & their cat know that Donnarumma is 99th percentile when it comes to shotstopping. So you're not telling us anything new. But like GodX pointed out, there is a reason Enrique felt comfortable dumping him after a treble season. Rather than pretending you know more than him, maybe just try to ask yourself what could've justified that decision footballwise.

I'll give you some leeway to dig a little deeper & perhaps course-correct. Stop giving us cliches & superficial information that anyone can glean from the comment section of nairaland.

Kimbeast:
Before yesterday Burnley had scored more league goals than Leeds so say something else and they scored at the Etihad so another moot point.

Like Maresca said none of the players turned up yesterday. They have themselves to blame for that shambolic performance and result. Palmer coming on actually made us worse. The game completely passed him by and he was not involved at all. Missed a big chance that should have tied the game as well.

AirBere:
He's definitely not. This is one of the reason Enrique chased him away. The amount of hoof ball today was enough.

There's no need for too much grammar/shalaye lol. Trafford sent Ederson to Turkey, Dona came in and immediately Trafford was dropped with Ortega nowhere to be found.

By January, if he(Trafford) is serious about going to the world cup then he'll leave on loan. Dona is the new first choice in town. Pep already said he'll adapt to what Dona does and not the other way round and it was evident with today's performance from city.

Android17:
Like I said to Popi, you're not telling us anything new. Donna, Allison & Courtois are the 3 best shot-stoppers in the world currently. We knew it before we signed him. However, being a shotstopper isn't enough. Ask Barcelona fans the difference between Garcia & Sczesny. Maybe that analogy will help you.

AirBere:


Correlation/Causation fallacy.

Donnarumma is a ball-playing GK.

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-club/21716

popizaino:
This is all i needed from all your prose.

How can i sit hear for someone to tell me Ederson whom i watched for many years at city backline is a better shot-stopper than Donnaruma.

Mind you Donnaruma is yet to spend a full season with you guys and i have seen him making some jaw dropping saves that even Ederson would wish to have done.

andrewbaba44:
Iniesta as a footballer have more trophies than Chelsea as a club

Even if John Terry convert all his goals to trophies,he will still have less achievements than Sergio Roberto

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The guy no sabi do argument. I'm comparing striker for striker. Drogba 🆚 Haaland.
E go dey bring Iniesta. Dani Alves career assist trump that of any past or future Chelsea player.

Android17:
Stop showing us my comprehension is checkered. I told you he's a ball-playing GK even if he's not as good as Ederson at playing the ball.

In other words, Donna even at PSG was tasked with joining in the buildup & ball progression. He even does it well when the team isn't being aggressively pressed. However, once the intensity increases, he starts making mistakes. Many times the passing angle or weight will be too difficult for Josko to control which means he will need multiple touches to control which then breaks down the buildup.

Other times, he will pass to the wrong player when and if he was a little patient, he'd have seen either Bernardo, NicoG, Nunes, Doku, Haaland or even Foden open. Against NUFC for e.g he used Doku twice in the 1st half & it led to that 1 v 1 that Erling scuffed.

I can go on and on. Sometimes just type what you want to understand in the Google searchbox so you'll be sure you know the meaning.

Donna has always been tasked with buildup, progression, ball retention, being an extra player similar to Ederson.

AirBere:

Everybody & their cat know that Donnarumma is 99th percentile when it comes to shotstopping. So you're not telling us anything new. But like GodX pointed out, there is a reason Enrique felt comfortable dumping him after a treble season. Rather than pretending you know more than him, maybe just try to ask yourself what could've justified that decision footballwise.

Android17:
Don't forget that you're faster than the person you're trying to get at.

AirBere:
Everybody & their cat know that Donnarumma is 99th percentile when it comes to shotstopping. So you're not telling us anything new. But like GodX pointed out, there is a reason Enrique felt comfortable dumping him after a treble season. Rather than pretending you know more than him, maybe just try to ask yourself what could've justified that decision footballwise.

Android17:
Don't forget that you have to be faster than the person you're trying to get at.

Edit: had to use highlights because....comprehension.

Ibime:
Delap had disappointed me so far, I so much believed in him

But not writing him off just yet as he is just returned from injury

AirBere:
Baba Dona is not a ball playing GK in that sense. It's not even 60:40. More like 70:30 or 80:20% shot stopping and about 30% or 20% passing. We've gone down this road before.

I explained to you that it's one of the reasons Enrique sent him away which you're equally echoing along with Godx. I also said it isn't black and white I.e he's not 100% shot stopping and 0% passing. Even Pete Chech tried to do the passing thing when he joined Arsenal, Szeny too at Barca.

Android17:
They are both ball-playing GKs.

andrewbaba44:
That’s why they see the likes of Joao pedro wey Dey score 5 goals a season as great striker

If Nicolas Jackson spend drogba years at Chelsea he will outscore the Ivorian fraud

odizeey:
Gbao Pedro and Liam Gbalap scored quick goals in the club worl cup and they thought the cooked.

Una for just use the money of both take buy Osimhen but no, Osimhen is a black man

popizaino:
I disagree to think Maresca underrate small teams. It is not true. If the likes of Tosin can't start against teams like Leeds city then is it when we play city,Liverpool, real madrid he should use him?

Any team can concede from a corner like we did yesterday but what was our response after that? Was it not playing his disjointed football till Leeds got their second goal?

Everytime Gritten had the ball yesterday,there were two Leeds city players on him, yet i had a coach who sat there but couldn't do anything to counter such approach from his opponent.

He's the proper textbook definition of vibe and inshallah but others try to interpret it as tactical ingenuity to plenty epistle.

Watch us individually and collectively and you will see what i am saying.

The truth is Maresca isn't whom we painted him to be and the soon we realise that,the less our expectations of him will be.

He is average to the core and never be compared to Arteta.

AirBere:
This man lol okay .

Android17:
At least, I'm learning to fact-check myself before posting. Kudos.

The only issue is, you clearly searched "is Donna considered a ball-playing GK"? I can point out the flaw in giving that command in your search but it won't help you. That's why I gave you the definition of a ball-playing GK vs a PURE shotstopper.

Ibime:
Delap had disappointed me so far, I so much believed in him

But not writing him off just yet as he is just returned from injury

AirBere:
Okay 👍

Android17:
I'll not disappear like the fart of a leprous witch.

Did you read the highlights?

lordfalcao:
To me Delap signing was purely from financial point of view. Young player, cheap(30M) with possibility of high financial value when sold.

Nothing of pure footballing reasons made them sign that guy.

lordfalcao:
Nobi must to buy Osimhen, why una no buy am, but went to buy pole as striker

BlueRayDick:
This man utd match just dey GBA!

fredoooooo:
You can only save what you see... if dem play am well , na net go catch the ball and not the Goalie