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brain54:
I have read about desensitization...

And social learning theory. But still can't fathom how it correlates with a chicken affecting behavior. Can you explain?

Kobojunkie:
. Killing animals has always been barbaric. I was not comfortable with the sight as a child. So, I would rather that it not be done in front of kids— let them choose whether to watch or not.

We4all:
Okay. To summarise, the more a child continues to witness an act of violence, those situations become normalized.

So, let us liken it to slaughtering of animals. When a child becomes so used to spilling of blood, he sees it as normal, and it may lower his inhibitions against committing violent acts that involves spilling of blood.

brain54:
I had to pull up the definition of violence from Google...


Slaughtering of animals, whether for food or rituals involves spilling of blood. And spilling of blood is considered an act of violence whether you agree or not.

I can see that your points were crafted to suit your narrative because you have been dwelling on slaughtering of chicken, as if chicken is the only animal people kill for food.

Have you witnessed a dog being killed before for food? Growing up, my dog eating neighbour would chain his dog and machete it to death. The chilling cries of the dog alone would break your heart.

With the dog going through such excruciating pains, is that not an act of violence? I guess at this point, you would say people shouldn't be eating dogs but stick to the type of meat you are used to.



People slaughter animals for food in a humane and respectful way.

Not dogs.

Like I said earlier children can actually be taught the value and to respect life through the slaughter of animals.

Lol...you have been dwelling about how Africans love to copy western behaviours, but this opinion sounds so unafrican. So, why are you suggesting something that is common among white men? At this rate you are contradicting yourself.

The people we try to copy (westerners) that always try to hide and come up with many ways of making simple acts like slaughtering a chicken for food complex are the most brutal set of people going by historical records.

Why not speak for yourself and try not to generalise? You may consider slaughtering of animals for food as simple, but others don't. Why are you getting worked up over it?

Plus, if you think that white men are the most brutal, then I guess Africans are now trying to give them a run for their money going by the deadly crimes that pop up in our news feed daily.

Look at how brutal slavery was on the African continent for example.


That is because your not so smart forefathers sold their people out in exchange for mirrors. They should be blamed first before casting blame on the whites.


Did the kid open fire because he saw a chicken being slaughtered at childhood?

You should read more about how childhood experiences play a vital role in the crimes people commit.



I feel before the adventure of the white man into Africa society. We had a more balanced society. Our parents had a way of passing a message through simple acts like killing chickens that would teach a child the value and circle of life and death for instance. It's not by hiding these things that make kids or society better.

Now, this is funny. You had a balanced society, but encouraged the killing of twins, practiced cannibalism, forced widows to drink water used for bathing their dead husbands, used humans as sacrifice...et al. If that is what you call a balanced society, then balanced must have a new meaning I don't know of.


A sick mind is a sick mind and can by triggered by the slightest trauma.

You believe a sick mind can be triggered by the slightest trauma, but not by watching an animal being slaughtered? Do you know how traumatic some people get watching animals being slaughtered. Plus blood, holds a cultural and spiritual power.

I know people who will never kill the animals they raised for food because of their empathy towards them. So, slaughtering of animals for food may be a simple act to you, but not for others.

brain54:
People slaughter animals for food in a humane and respectful way.

Lol.... Your assertion is wrong. How many people have you documented their methods of killing animals before? There are people who will first strangle chickens to death before killing them. Isn't that cruelty even though they are used as food?


Did the kid open fire because he saw a chicken being slaughtered at childhood?

Okay, let me break it down. Do you agree that slaughtering of animals for food inflict pains on them and they suffer before dying?

Now, here is the message I have been trying to pass across: Some children may take pleasure in watching animals in pain and that may be damaging in the long run. Whether you agree or not, doesn't change the fact that this has been happening.

We4all:
[/quote]They are always exceptions to every rule...


We aren't talking about those that strangle animals. You would agree with me that majority of those that slaughter animals for food do not strangle it. Infact, the majority of religions insist that blood is allowed to flow from animals by slaughter and not by strangulation. Infact, majority of people would not eat or even touch animals that died from strangulation. They is a delicate balance to these things.


Focus on my argument that slaughtering animals isn't violent if done properly. Bringing up those that abuse or strangle animals is like arguing with someone that says sex is good then you are saying what of those that rape? Both are sex but done differently because the rapist is a sick.

As for your question about animals and pain. I hope you realize that you can never make an omelette without breaking an egg?


Any child that gets pleasure by watching animals in pain means something has gone wrong somewhere and needs physiological help. They is already something wrong inside of him anything can trigger trauma in a person that already has inherent phycological problems. Even raising your on certain people can trigger them.

Anyone that is emotionally balanced and okay normally shouldn't be triggered by someone raising their voice on them.

So it's not the act of raising your voice or shouting at the person in the first place that is the problem but the problem is inherently imbedded inside the person.

A knife is a kitchen tool...but it can also be used as a weapon. What you are saying is like we should hide a knife from a kid so as not to trigger a trauma in him that would make him murder people with it by the mere sight of the knife.


But that's not the original purpose of the knife and a person that is a psycho inherently would probably find other ways to unleash his trauma and carry out his mission of murder even without ever coming in contact with a knife.

A balanced and normal person would see a knife and understand the need to use it with care etc!

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brain54:
They are always exceptions to every rule...


You think there is always exceptions to every rule, but don't agree that some kids are wired differently, and something as simple as slaughtering animals may affect them? Interesting!

bigpicture001:
I was in Germany some years ago at the asylum camp in certain rural setting in Hamburg...

The place is deserted only very old couples with large build up for asylum housing...

One of our camper, a guinea guy, crossed the fence into the next compound ND stole chicken .. the old couple HV like 10k birds of poultry farm... They saw him taking it instead ran inside locked themselves up for fear of being attacked and called the police on the camp.. this happened in the afternoon..

When the police arrived, a male and a female office.. usually, they are always make and female office.. they were led by the complainant ND the camp officers into our cabin....

When they entered was exactly the time the guinea guy was slashing the throat of the chicken, the water is boiling and we are waiting for the meat..

Immidiately they got a sign of the slaughtering, the female police office fell down and fainted.. ambulance was called in..

The male officer questioned us but admitted the case as one of ignorance as he believes in Africa we go about catching fowl anyhow to kill and eat.. he imported us to stop the habbit, that WalMart sell already slaughtered foul.. that his patner has never seek a foul or any animal being slaughtered live.. so sh couldn't take it ND it will have a long psychological effects on her..

See, there are ppl we know as butchers, not everyone should handle killing... Knife to the throat is not what kids should be exposed to.. it's really appalling hearing u guyz support such because according to u ppl's argument, ur parents did it.

Now who told u guys that all ur parents training proceedures are correct?

LIVINGICONREBOR:
Kindly whisper into my ears what you want for Christmas excluding new boxers.🥱

lilyheaven:
I want life chicken, I will kill it myself

LIVINGICONREBOR:
Go to any livestock market of your choice, select the biggest cockerel. Then you tell the seller that you are from livingiconreborn.

lilyheaven:
I haven’t heard such name before.
What is that?

SpencerForbes:
Barbaric That’s your personal opinion and we respect it. But to your question?? There’s no harm in killing hen in front of your kids. A lot of us watched our parents kill hens while growing up and there’s no psychological, emotional or even any effect to our ‘conscience’. You’re the one reading meaning into something that little.

LIVINGICONREBOR:
You are probably living in a cave cut off from civilization or you reside in Mars. Just do as you are told. Simple!!

lilyheaven:
Yes 🙌🏻 ooo
That’s where I’m living.

Abeg , send chicken for me
I don’t want sellers to ask me what is living I come bor.

LIVINGICONREBOR:
What do you mean by "what is living I come bor"?
I won't tolerate any form of insult from you.

Where are you based?

lilyheaven:
😆 is that not what you said I should say, when I see chicken sellers 🤣

LIVINGICONREBOR:
It seems you don't really need this chicken. When you are ready I would know.