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franchasofficia:
Prof. Chinua Achebe is still making more money in death via his globally accepted literary works than Soyinka who cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


Despite his fake Nobel peace prize, he became so broke to the extent that he had to forgo his past integrity and principles to become a supporter and defender of a compromised government of a man with too many questions marks just so he could see chop money .


Now tell me the worth of such Nobel prize? Even USA couldn't honor his Nobel Prize and let him renew his Green card, shows it was an Oluwole Nobel Prize, ire oh

According to our neighbour here


Wole Soyinka cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


I heard this for the first time today

Can anyone educate me please

A big lie they fabricated!

He won Nobel prize for literature not peace..

But I am so suprised, he didn't win it with any book, but a quote...

Na wa ooo

aribisala0:
According to our neighbour here
Wole Soyinka cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.
I heard this for the first time today
Can anyone educate me please

That guy you responded to is IPOB fake news network

I have been asking him this qestion for about a week he refused to answer

franchasofficia:
Igbo military officers were assigned to lead the coups in Northern and Eastern Regions while a Yoruba military officer was assigned to lead the coup in Eastern Region.

raumdeuter:
What is the name of the Yoruba officer assigned to the Eastern region?

franchasofficia:
That is an assignment for you. I will never answer this since you claim to know everything about the events of the 1966 to 1967

raumdeuter:
That guy you responded to is IPOB fake news network

I have been asking him this qestion for about a week he refused to answer

wow


So he goes upandan lying

bigpicture001:
He won Nobel prize for literature not peace..

But I am so suprised, he didn't win it with any book, but a quote...

Na wa ooo

He won with a quote?

As a protest to what?

Soyinka was a better writer than Achebe, and yes, I agree, Things Fall Apart alone sold 10x more copies than all of Soyinka's books combined. But from a literary perspective, Soyinka was better than Achebe. Achebe was more of a story teller than a writer. So Soyinka deserved that Nobel prize in Lit. That aside, as a person, as a human being, Soyinka is a complete hypocrite, very characterless and ignoble. But as a writer that man is a god. And to fault his works is akin to blasphemy.

bigpicture001:
He won Nobel prize for literature not peace..

But I am so suprised, he didn't win it with any book, but a quote...

Na wa ooo

What was the quote please?

You're like saying he won it for the cover of a book instead of his collected works up to then.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/1986/press-release/

Easterner will do anything to measure up to southwest, forgetting that if southwest stopped in their oars today, it will take southeast 1 thousand years to meet up in all indices! Tech, business, education, entertainment, name it.

aribisala0:
According to our neighbour here


Wole Soyinka cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


I heard this for the first time today

Can anyone educate me please

There is no level of absurdity those deveropers cannot cook up in their heads to make them feel better or to reduce their pain. So, anything you read from them just use it as comic relief. You can even feel the thickness of the bitterness in that write-up.

aribisala0:
According to my boss here


Wole Soyinka cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


I heard this for the first time today

Can anyone educate me please

The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

franchasofficia:
The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

Whose opinion is this yours or Ohanaeze's?

franchasofficia:
The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

I put your claim to ChatGPT



That claim is **highly problematic and historically inaccurate** on several levels. Let’s unpack it carefully:

---

## **1. The Nobel Prize and the Swedish Academy**

* The **Swedish Academy** is the body that awards the Nobel Prize in Literature.
* The selection process is **internal, secretive, and based on literary merit**, not overt geopolitical agendas.
* While accusations of bias in Nobel selections exist, there is **no verified evidence** that “the West puppeteered” the Academy in the cases of Achebe or Soyinka.

---

## **2. Chinua Achebe and the Nobel Prize**

* Achebe (1930–2013) is widely regarded as the father of modern African literature.
* He was **nominated multiple times** but never awarded the Nobel.
* The Academy’s reasons for not awarding him are **not public**, and it is speculative to claim it was due to “conflicts with Western values.”
* Achebe’s works **criticize colonialism and Western interference**, but they also explore universal human themes. To assert that this is why he was “denied” the Nobel is **conjecture**, not documented fact.

---

## **3. Wole Soyinka and the Nobel Prize**

* Soyinka (born 1934) won in **1986**, the first African laureate.
* His work **does not primarily celebrate Western civilization over traditional African values**. In fact:

* Plays like *Death and the King’s Horseman* explore **conflicts between tradition and colonial influence**.
* His works critique tyranny and corruption, both in African and Western contexts.
* Claiming that Soyinka’s writing “emphasized the triumph of Western civilization” is **factually incorrect**. His literature is far more nuanced and rooted in Yoruba cosmology, politics, and culture.

---

## **4. Summary of Issues in the Claim**

| Part of Claim | Problem |
| ---------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| “The West puppeteering the Swedish Academy” | No evidence; speculative and conspiratorial. |
| Achebe denied because his works “conflicted with Western values” | Unsubstantiated; the Academy’s decision-making is not publicly linked to ideology. |
| Soyinka’s works “emphasized triumph of Western civilization” | Factually incorrect; Soyinka critiques both colonial and postcolonial African power structures, upholds African cultural values. |
| Overall framing | Simplistic, reduces complex literary and political realities to a binary ideological “West vs. Africa” narrative, which does not reflect reality. |

---

✅ **Accurate Statement Instead:**

* Achebe and Soyinka are two of Africa’s most celebrated writers.
* Soyinka won the Nobel in 1986; Achebe never did.
* The reasons behind the Academy’s choices are **not fully known**, but neither the official record nor literary analysis supports the idea that Soyinka was favored because he aligned with Western values or that Achebe was rejected for criticizing the West.

---

If you want, I can **rewrite your original claim into a historically accurate version** that still captures the tension between their works and Western recognition, without making unsubstantiated conspiratorial claims.

Do you want me to do that?

franchasofficia:
The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

Chatgpt.com


Yes — it **sounds like something a disgruntled IPOB (Indigenous People of Biafra) member might say**, for a few reasons:

---

## **1. Tone and framing**

* The statement **frames Achebe as a victim of Western manipulation**.
* It contrasts “African values” with “Western values,” suggesting a **civilizational conflict**, which aligns with narratives used by Biafran separatist supporters.
* It uses conspiratorial language (“puppeteering the Swedish Academy”), which is typical in rhetoric that claims **external forces suppress African excellence**.

---

## **2. Focus on perceived injustice**

* IPOB supporters often emphasize historical or contemporary **grievances against Western or Nigerian authorities**, claiming that Africans are marginalized or misrepresented globally.
* Suggesting Achebe was denied the Nobel Prize due to “Western values” fits this **grievance-oriented mindset**, portraying the West as controlling global recognition of African achievements.

---

## **3. Misrepresentation of facts**

* Like much grievance rhetoric, the claim **simplifies complex historical realities** (the Nobel process, Soyinka’s work, Achebe’s literary themes) to a **binary good vs. bad narrative**.
* Disgruntled nationalist or separatist members often **reinterpret history in terms of African victimhood** and Western manipulation — this is consistent with that style.

---

## **4. Red flags for this type of rhetoric**

* **Blame external forces** for lack of recognition
* **Contrast African vs. Western values** as moral/ideological opposition
* **Use of emotionally charged language** (“denied,” “puppeteering,” “triumph of Western civilization”)

---

**In short:** The claim has the **hallmarks of a politically charged, grievance-based statement** that someone with IPOB sympathies might make, even though it is **historically inaccurate**.

---

If you want, I can **rewrite the claim in a way that preserves critique of Western influence in literature but removes the conspiratorial tone**, which would make it **factually defensible** while still sounding like a critical or nationalist argument.

franchasofficia:
The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

Chatgpt.com



Yes — that statement fits **exactly the kind of rhetoric a disgruntled IPOB member (or someone with a pan-Africanist, anti-Western perspective) might write**. Let me break down why:

---

## **1. Conspiratorial framing**

* Phrases like **“The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy”** and **“the skewed nature of the award”** suggest **external manipulation against Africans**, a hallmark of grievance-focused rhetoric common in separatist or nationalist narratives.
* Assigning motives like “making him the first African writer to win” implies **Western control over recognition**, rather than acknowledging the Academy’s complex, multi-faceted selection process.

---

## **2. Dichotomy of values**

* The statement contrasts Achebe’s works as aligned with “African values” and Soyinka’s works as promoting “Western civilization” — framing it as a **moral or civilizational conflict**.
* This mirrors IPOB-style discourse that emphasizes **African victimhood and the need to preserve African cultural authenticity against Western influence**.

---

## **3. Emotional and personal language**

* Words like **“selfish interest/stomach,” “valueless works,” “virtually unknown”** are emotionally charged and **discredit Soyinka personally**, rather than discussing literary merit objectively.
* This is typical of **grievance-driven social media posts** rather than scholarly analysis.

---

## **4. Historical distortions**

* Claiming that Soyinka “projected European values as superior” is **factually incorrect**; his works critique colonialism, tyranny, and cultural misunderstandings, not elevate Western values.
* Claiming African writers “boycotted the 1986 Nobel Prize” is **unsupported by evidence**; there was no formal boycott.
* Portrays Achebe as universally acknowledged as the “Father of African Literature” and Soyinka as “virtually unknown,” exaggerating the historical context for emotional effect.

---

## **5. Narrative style**

* Uses **collective “we/they” framing**: Africans were “working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift” — typical of nationalist or separatist narratives.
* Suggests **moral outrage** and **betrayal**, positioning Achebe as a hero and Soyinka as a collaborator with Western powers.

---

### ✅ **Conclusion**

* The statement is **emotional, conspiratorial, and nationalist**, which aligns closely with **IPOB-style rhetoric**.
* It is **historically inaccurate** in almost every factual detail (Nobel selection process, Soyinka’s literary intent, African boycott).
* The post’s **main function is grievance-mobilization**, not objective literary analysis.

---

If you want, I can **rewrite this post in a way that preserves criticism of Western influence but makes it historically accurate and literarily defensible**, which would turn it from a conspiracy-laden rant into a reasoned argument. Do you want me to do that?

With what I have seen and read so far , I can proudly say I am proud of Chinua Achebe

aribisala0:
Whose opinion is this yours or Ohanaeze's?

I guess Oduduwa's opinion my guy

Shivisee1:
Easterner will do anything to measure up to southwest, forgetting that if southwest stopped in their oars today, it will take southeast 1 thousand years to meet up in all indices! Tech, business, education, entertainment, name it.

If not for lagos port ,where you for see lagos

aribisala0:
According to our neighbour here


Wole Soyinka cunningly sneaked away to accept Nobel peace prize when other Africans agreed to reject it as a form of protest.


I heard this for the first time today

Can anyone educate me please

It's as true as daylight that's why people like me don't regard olowole Soyinka.

There is no difference between this story and the one that claimed that Buhari was cloned. Just leave stories like this for our Eastern people.

They practically create anything from their head and start running with it. 😂

The truth is th eastern part of the country has always been jealous of the west. They were only pained it was Soyinka that got the Nobel laurel and not Achebe.
You want to trust people that tried to distort the truth about 9ja history?

franchasofficia:
The West, puppeteering the Swedish Academy, denied Achebe the Nobel Prize and awarded it to Wole Soyinka because Achebe's works conflicted, in most cases, against Western values; whereas Soyinka's works often emphasized the triumph of Western civilization and modernization over traditional African values.


African writers of that time used their works to criticize and analyze colonialism and western culture in Africa, while using the opportunity to elevate the African culture and values, but Prof. Wole Soyinka did otherwise; projected western culture as the best and degraded African culture and values, so the west was happy with his works that praised and elevated their values against African's.


African writers back then also used their literary works to condemn Apartheid in South Africa, Prof Chinua Achebe was at the forefront of this, and they also agreed to boycott 1986 Nobel prize to protest two things; the skewed nature of the award that intentionally avoided African authors because of their criticisms of European colonialism and the African conquest, and secondly the Apartheid in South Africa.



Prof Wole Soyinka who always prefer to stand with the west and for his selfish interest/stomach accepted the 1986 Nobel Prize making him the first African writer to win Nobel prize in literature even when he was virtually unknown among Africans and the world as compared to Chinua Achebe who was dubbed the Father of African Literature.


So many popular African writers at that time were shocked to hear Wole Soyinka being awarded Nobel prize, they were shocked because they were expecting the father of African Literature, Prof Chinua Achebe to be the one to have won it years back and not Wole Soyinka with his valueless works that only projected European values as more superior to African values as at that time Africans were working hard to give Africa and the black race a facelift and recognition.



You can also read in details why Prof Chinua Achebe was not awarded the Nobel prize here
https://steemit.com/africa/@gandhibaba/conspiracy-of-the-west-why-achebe-was-denied-the-nobel-prize-in-literature

Achebes name came up with the Nobel prize in 1999 or the year 2000 , and he lost to an obscure Chinese writer.

And yeah, it was unfair in my mind by the way, but hey, he is still the greatest for me. Read most of his books.

Soyinka is good too, and am not surprised he won when he won.

His Nobel lecture was also a long attack on arphateod and praised Mandela

There is no evidence of hundeyin assertions

Mbanda:
It's as true as daylight that's why people like me don't regard olowole Soyinka.

You know there is no single truth in that story but as usual, you guys cook up the most bizarre story and try to spread it like the truth.

The jealousy and pain of Wole Soyinka's award will hunt you guys for generations. 😂

bigpicture001:
He won Nobel prize for literature not peace..

But I am so suprised, he didn't win it with any book, but a quote...

Na wa ooo

Adaisback:
With what I have seen and read so far , I can proudly say I am proud of Chinau Achebe

True Africans are proud of Chinua Achebe

IPOBIDIENTS yoots are still angry with Pa Wole Soyinka

Ofunaofu:
True ibos are proud of Chinua Achebe

Achebe was a trib-alis-tic writer. His last work gave him up as one.

garykoeman:
Achebe was a trib-alis-tic writer. His last work gave him up as one.

You mean the book There Was a Country portrayed him as a tribalistic writer?

I need to know your level of education, did you pass your SSCE?