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andrewbaba44:
Let’s pretend Nico Williams is better than where he is

Lmao

The boy for do well in a bigger team imo

Kilishihunter:
The core of that German team was weak, many old, washed or average players were in that team, even nagelsmann struggled when he first got there that they had to call kroos back for the euros before they starting getting younger talents to build themselves over the years, I'm not saying a DM won't help us but psg who won the UCL don't really have a physical specimen for a DM, all of them work in tandem to press and win the ball back, one of the signings that helped propel them to the trophy alongside kvara was pacho a CB and he was very good from January till may, I'm not saying you aren't right but the weakest area of our team currently is at CB, that's why we've drawn a shortlist already before any other area of the team

I have never talked about physical specimen as DMs, I actually don't like them. I even said Pedri will do a DM job, I also recommended Gavi and I stand Casado. That tells you I'm not a fan of a Viera or Petit type of DM. If you're like Yaya with all the tools that's a different scenario. I constantly talk about Vitinhia, Kross, Tiger, Jorhinho etc. So DM is about being there and mopping out danger. You don't need to look like Akifewa to play there.

That aside, patterns don't lie. Flick's German team conceded goals, his Bayern team played high line and conceded goals, his Barca team is conceding bucket loads. I still don't think this pattern will change till he retires from football irrespective of who's at the back. But it's fine, get a CB and we'll see if anything changes.

Kilishihunter:
The boy for do well in a bigger team imo

Na yamal give that boy career

Na garnacho level player him be normally

Set awon adama traore

Lamine yamal wins Laliga player of the month for November

@airbere, I have observed keenly your posts on this group and while I must admit that u have a good knowledge of football you come off as someone with a bias against FDJ.

Let’s take FDJ case one at a time:
1. It’s unfair the amount of criticism you spew out on him, whether he has a good game, excellent game, average game or below par game. You are constantly attacking him. This bias is so deeply entrenched in you that in games he doesn’t play you still find a way to make him the highlight of your posts. Infact when the whole team plays badly, u still find a way to pin to down to FDJ.

2. I see your clamour for FDJ to be benched and I keep asking have you seen the injury situation at Barca this season? Flick has not had a full squad to pick from right now we have Olmo, Gavi, Fermin injured, Bernal is just coming back from an ACL injury coupled with the fact that we are having a defence crisis (losing inigo and not replacing him, Araujo and his inconsistency, Christensen not being able to step up to take a place in the defence.. So I ask who do u want to replace FDJ with at this time?

Remember also that FDJ was integral to the success the team enjoyed last season.

3. Also remember the sentimental factor that FDJ is one of the highest paid player in the squad and as such there is an expectation that he should be playing regularly. Most clubs are facing this dilemma with their top buys (Arsenal - Havertz, Liverpool- Wirtz and so on.

4. It is an open secret that Barca needs enforcement to be able to compete at the highest levels, what flick pulled last season was a masterclass despite the limited resources at his disposal. Barca needs to strengthen a lot of areas, based on my assessment of flick’s style of play he is out to outscore the opponent and doesn’t mind conceding goals (in my opinion our priority should
be new CF who can press and clinical to bury chances someone in the mould of Oshimen *I am not saying we should buy him ooo but someone in that mould, we need a back up LB for Balde and another CB to replace inigo as it is now obvious that your so called Christensen that u hold in high esteem can’t seem to displace Martin or Araujo in the CB position. For the DM position, if we have a fully fit MF squad (Gavi, Casado, Bernal, FDJ, Pedri Olmo and Garcia) we should be just fine.

Is it possible for us to fix all these positions within one year, I don’t think so.


5. You also say stuffs like, he is uncoachable, he is not open to learning bla bla bla, all these sounds like hate speech. He is not good yet he commands a starting shirt at his club and country?

In summary @airbere, we have heard enough of your FDJ analysis, pls focus on football analysis which u are good at and stop picking up on one player from the team.

seunpinky:
@airbere, I have observed keenly your posts on this group and while I must admit that u have a good knowledge of football you come off as someone with a bias against FDJ.

Let’s take FDJ case one at a time:
1. It’s unfair the amount of criticism you spew out on him, whether he has a good game, excellent game, average game or below par game. You are constantly attacking him. This bias is so deeply entrenched in you that in games he doesn’t play you still find a way to make him the highlight of your posts. Infact when the whole team plays badly, u still find a way to pin to down to FDJ.

2. I see your clamour for FDJ to be benched and I keep asking have you seen the injury situation at Barca this season? Flick has not had a full squad to pick from right now we have Olmo, Gavi, Fermin injured, Bernal is just coming back from an ACL injury coupled with the fact that we are having a defence crisis (losing inigo and not replacing him, Araujo and his inconsistency, Christensen not being able to step up to take a place in the defence.. So I ask who do u want to replace FDJ with at this time?

Remember also that FDJ was integral to the success the team enjoyed last season.

3. Also remember the sentimental factor that FDJ is one of the highest paid player in the squad and as such there is an expectation that he should be playing regularly. Most clubs are facing this dilemma with their top buys (Arsenal - Havertz, Liverpool- Wirtz and so on.

4. It is an open secret that Barca needs enforcement to be able to compete at the highest levels, what flick pulled last season was a masterclass despite the limited resources at his disposal. Barca needs to strengthen a lot of areas, based on my assessment of flick’s style of play he is out to outscore the opponent and doesn’t mind conceding goals (in my opinion our priority should
be new CF who can press and clinical to bury chances someone in the mould of Oshimen *I am not saying we should buy him ooo but someone in that mould, we need a back up LB for Balde and another CB to replace inigo as it is now obvious that your so called Christensen that u hold in high esteem can’t seem to displace Martin or Araujo in the CB position. For the DM position, if we have a fully fit MF squad (Gavi, Casado, Bernal, FDJ, Pedri Olmo and Garcia) we should be just fine.

Is it possible for us to fix all these positions within one year, I don’t think so.


5. You also say stuffs like, he is uncoachable, he is not open to learning bla bla bla, all these sounds like hate speech. He is not good yet he commands a starting shirt at his club and country?

In summary @airbere, we have heard enough of your FDJ analysis, pls focus on football analysis which u are good at and stop picking up on one player from the team.

Good submission chief. I don't hate Dejong, I hate no one. But my analysis are based on evidence, facts etc. I analyse them with screenshots. Dejong is used as a DM since Flick became the coach. If there's money, Flick would've advocated for a DM by now. As a DM, he doesn't stay in that position. He strays away like a lost black sheep at night.

He has played under Valverde, Satien, Xavi, and Koeman. None of these guys trusted him as a DM because he's simply a liability there. He was supposed to be Busquet replacement and joined a 31 year old Busquet in 2019 who was somewhat washed since at least 2017 or at most 2018. If Barca signed Tomas Partey or Rodri during that period, Busquet wouldn't stay till 2022.

Flick plays him there because there's absolutely no other option. But considering how long he's been playing that role, he should be comfortable like Vintinha who just started playing there 1.5 seasons ago. That's why I think he doesn't listen to instructions unless the coaching staff at Barca are telling him to leave his position which I doubt.

Image A, Dejong(DM) is supposed to be in that red zone in order to mop up danger. The Chelsea player had more than 14 business days to pick a pass yet Dejong didn't arrive.

Image B, that's Eric(DM) staying back incase of the situation in image A. My conclusion is that, it'll take a very serious defensive coordination plus Pedri being at his absolute element for Barca to win a big game in the UCL or the tournament as a whole. I don't see Barca surviving a full 90mins against a serious UCL contender with Dejong playing DM. I just don't but I could be wrong. Football is unpredictable you know!


I don't hate anyone including DJong bruv, just pointing out his ineptitude as a DM.

Don't forget that I do praise him as well if he does well. Like I did last season Vs Madrid and this season Vs Newcastle. I'm flexible

The third goal we scored was just too easy.

Let's forget the still image, watch the video clip of the third goal. Dejong was literally walking back like there was nothing at stake. What's at stake as a top team is avoiding embarrassing scorelines. As a top team, you must avoid it like plague and protect your pride. That's how they were all walking around during 8:2. With Stegen giving up after goal number 3.

Third goal is a very similar situation to image B. Pedri was crowded by 5 players but made a risky forward pass to Ralph for the equaliser. If that daring pass was intercepted, it would've created a 5vs5 because Eric stayed back. Now imagine if Eric didn't stay back and strayed away from his position like Dijon, It'll be 5vs4 in favour of Athletico Madrid. Very similar to how we managed to create 5vs4 with no DM in sight to support your defence with the DJing(DM) jogging back with no efforts at all.

Like I said, I know The game was already lost plus the red card but you have to avoid embarrassing scoreliness as a top team. It forces teams/opposition fans to take you seriously.

After winning the UCL in 2002 and reaching the semis the very next season, Madrid were embarrassing themselves in Europe, losing to teams they should be beating, thrashed by Liverpool along the way. R16 exit choke during that period. They were not taken seriously anymore. Even small Lyon flogged them in UCL until Mourinho came and made them serious again. After setting the foundation, immediately he left, Don Carlo brought in La Decima in 2013.

I think even Pique talked about avoiding embarrassing scorelines because it can cause a physiological damage/weakness.

In UCL all hands must be on deck that's why Dejong as a DM is a liability.

Seems like u are obsessed about the whole FDJ topic and coming from someone that’s not a Barca fan makes it even more alarming.

You have gone about talking about not winning the UCL with FDJ as our DM, if I may ask did any Barca fan or board tell you that the goal for this season is to win the UCL? Yes, we had a great season last year which we least expected but happenings outside the pitch (losing a key player and not replacing him coupled with having a 38 year old striker leading the attack) and not being able to compete in the transfer market already points that we are not ready for the next level (winning UCL).

I hope you are putting this much energy on your Chelsea team esp seeing that goal would be for Chelsea to either win the league or UCL after all they are world champions.

Pls save us your FDJ rants Barca fans have not set any high hopes for this season, we are taking it one game at a time. If you need to push a team to win the UCL u can do that with Madrid who signed 5 quality players and a “top class” coach or Chelsea who are the current world champions and have a squad depth of 40 players. We don’t have these luxuries, so our expectations are set as such.

You keep saying FDJ is a liability, so what do you want Barca fans to do about your opinion? We should sell him?? We should bench him permanently We should buy a replacement (bring the money)?


Why are u so keen on Barca winning the UCL, what happened to your club aren’t they in the same competition?


You are beginning to sound like a broken record on this page. You have made your points known, the least u can do is too move on from it. Your persistence dwelling on the matter leaves nothing to be desired of your posts on this page.

AirBere:
The third goal we scored was just too easy.

Let's forget the still image, watch the video clip of the third goal. Dejong was literally walking back like there was nothing at stake. What's at stake as a top team is avoiding embarrassing scorelines. As a top team, you must avoid it like plague and protect your pride. That's how they were all walking around during 8:2. With Stegen giving up after goal number 3.

Third goal is a very similar situation to image B. Pedri was crowded by 5 players but made a risky forward pass to Ralph for the equaliser. If that daring pass was intercepted, it would've created a 5vs5 because Eric stayed back. Now imagine if Eric didn't stay back and strayed away from his position like Dijon, It'll be 5vs4 in favour of Athletico Madrid. Very similar to how we managed to create 5vs4 with no DM in sight to support your defence with the DJing(DM) jogging back with no efforts at all.

Like I said, I know The game was already lost plus the red card but you have to avoid embarrassing scoreliness as a top team. It forces teams/opposition fans to take you seriously.

After winning the UCL in 2002 and reaching the semis the very next season, Madrid were embarrassing themselves in Europe, losing to teams they should be beating, thrashed by Liverpool along the way. R16 exit choke during that period. They were not taken seriously anymore. Even small Lyon flogged them in UCL until Mourinho came and made them serious again. After setting the foundation, immediately he left, Don Carlo brought in La Decima in 2013.

I think even Pique talked about avoiding embarrassing scorelines because it can cause a physiological damage/weakness.

In UCL all hands must be on deck that's why Dejong as a DM is a liability.

seunpinky:
Seems like u are obsessed about the whole FDJ topic and coming from someone that’s not a Barca fan makes it even more alarming.

You have gone about talking about not winning the UCL with FDJ as our DM, if I may ask did any Barca fan or board tell you that the goal for this season is to win the UCL? Yes, we had a great season last year which we least expected but happenings outside the pitch (losing a key player and not replacing him coupled with having a 38 year old striker leading the attack) and not being able to compete in the transfer market already points that we are not ready for the next level (winning UCL).

I hope you are putting this much energy on your Chelsea team esp seeing that goal would be for Chelsea to either win the league or UCL after all they are world champions.

Pls save us your FDJ rants Barca fans have not set any high hopes for this season, we are taking it one game at a time. If you need to push a team to win the UCL u can do that with Madrid who signed 5 quality players and a “top class” coach or Chelsea who are the current world champions and have a squad depth of 40 players. We don’t have these luxuries, so our expectations are set as such.

You keep saying FDJ is a liability, so what do you want Barca fans to do about your opinion? We should sell him?? We should bench him permanently We should buy a replacement (bring the money)?


Why are u so keen on Barca winning the UCL, what happened to your club aren’t they in the same competition?


You are beginning to sound like a broken record on this page. You have made your points known, the least u can do is too move on from it. Your persistence dwelling on the matter leaves nothing to be desired of your posts on this page.

I'm not keen on Barca winning UCL ooo lol.
I'm just doing my normal online sports talk. I'm literally just telling you why Barca is struggling in UCL and why they'll struggle to win it with him. I talk about Madrid/other teams too on their thread and even here when I'm chanced bro.

Not a serious matter chief, just spare time cruising 😉 👍

seunpinky:
Seems like u are obsessed about the whole FDJ topic and coming from someone that’s not a Barca fan makes it even more alarming.

Not a new thing with him so no really reason am.

Everything he's saying here about FDJ...

He used to say it and more about Busquets, even comparing Busi to büms like Krychowiak and Nzonzi.

For whatever reason he makes it his mission to always call out Barcelona's defensive midfielder.

BykeLaByke:
Not a new thing with him so no really reason am.

Everything he's saying here about FDJ...

He used to say it and more about Busquets, even comparing Busi to büms like Krychowiak and Nzonzi.

For whatever reason he makes it his mission to always call out Barcelona's defensive midfielder.

O really, was he the same guy from years back?? I vividly remember those conversations comparing busquets with some bums. Infact, I was busy checking out those stats back in the day.

seunpinky:
O really, was he the same guy from years back?? I vividly remember those conversations comparing busquets with some bums. Infact, I was busy checking out those stats back in the day.

Na him gan gan.

BykeLaByke:
Na him gan gan.

Which person be that cause e get many people wey dey shade busi for here even me sef though it was about his age catching up with him

BykeLaByke:
Not a new thing with him so no really reason am.

Everything he's saying here about FDJ...

He used to say it and more about Busquets, even comparing Busi to büms like Krychowiak and Nzonzi.

For whatever reason he makes it his mission to always call out Barcelona's defensive midfielder.

me keh lol.
Anybody who doesn't rate Busquet does not really understand the job of a DM or is simply pushing an agenda. Until the emergence of Busquet, most teams including Barcelona played with robust DMs built like tanks. I mean before Busquet, Barca had players like Petit, Edmilson, Van Bomel, Yaya Toure whom Busquet sent to Man city was/is built like a literal tank.

The DM role was/is often known as the Markelele role, but since the emergency of Busquet, possesion based teams are now going with profiles like Rodri, Zubi, Jorhinho, Vintihhna, Kimmich, Dejong etc. This doesn't mean Markelele couldn't pass, no. He was as good as gold in his prime.

You don't win the world cup, Euros, multiple UCL/Liga titles by luck. I actually rate Busquet.

Kilishihunter:
Which person be that cause e get many people wey dey shade busi for here even me sef though it was about his age catching up with him

Airmark.

AirBere:
me keh lol.
Anybody who doesn't rate Busquet does not really understand the job of a DM or is simply pushing an agenda. Until the emergence of Busquet, most teams including Barcelona played with robust DMs built like tanks. I mean before Busquet, Barca had players like Petit, Edmilson, Van Bomel, Yaya Toure whom Busquet sent to Man city was/is built like a literal tank.

The DM role was/is often known as the Markelele role, but since the emergency of Busquet, possesion based teams are now going with profiles like Rodri, Zubi, Jorhinho, Vintihhna, Kimmich, Dejong etc. This doesn't mean Markelele couldn't pass, no. He was as good as gold in his prime.

You don't win the world cup, Euros, multiple UCL/Liga titles by luck. I actually rate Busquet.

Akuko.

Used to spend hours arguing back then.

Now you wan dey change mouth... SMH, elite troll.

AirBere:
Baba, I'm not really a fan of back and forth but I'll reply you for the sake of the discuss.

For starters, Busquet is one of the greatest defensive midfielders of all time. Whether nairalanders and online fans agree with this or not, it changes nothing. The coaches, professionals players speak highly of him. Busquet won the world cup as starter, euro as starter, 3UCL as starter, multiple Laliga titles etc. At just 20 years old, he sent a seasoned professional DM Yaya Toure to the EPL. He's paid his dues.

In 2019, Barca paid 75 million with insane salary for Dejong. The aim was for him to help them win UCL along with Busquet. But when they stakes are much higher, he's always nowhere to be found.

Busquet already paid his dues(3 UCL, 1 WC, 1 Euro, multiple Laliga titles). Humiliations started 10 years(2008-2017/2018) after Busquet lost his legs and Dejong was supposed to take over and anchor the team. Whether you understand my point is left for you and I'll not be going back and forth with my explanations.

Like I said, whether people(online fans) rate Busquet or not no really concern me, the professionals already see him and speak highly of him.

I reiterate; I'll not be going back and forth with you Baba.

Byeklabyke see me defending ur Busquet

BykeLaByke:
Akuko.

Used to spend hours arguing back then.

Now you wan dey change mouth... SMH, elite troll.

BykeLaByke:
Airmark.

My guy, wetin dey sup?

Do you want us to revisit a spineless DM that got carried by Messi, Xavi and Iniesta?

airmark:
My guy, wetin dey sup?

Do you want us to revisit a spineless DM that got carried by Messi, Xavi and Iniesta?

BykeLaByke:
Airmark.

Nah it can't be. Both of them get very distinct ways of talking even though them dey support London cowboys

airmark:
My guy, wetin dey sup?

Do you want us to revisit a spineless DM that got carried by Messi, Xavi and Iniesta?

Oga e don do. Kindly leed your self back to Chelsea thread, your fellow fans boku wey wan argue with you

BykeLaByke:
Not a new thing with him so no really reason am.

Everything he's saying here about FDJ...

He used to say it and more about Busquets, even comparing Busi to büms like Krychowiak and Nzonzi.

For whatever reason he makes it his mission to always call out Barcelona's defensive midfielder.

You are mistaking airbere for air mark

Airbere drag busquets ke

airmark:
My guy, wetin dey sup?

Do you want us to revisit a spineless DM that got carried by Messi, Xavi and Iniesta?

Wow.

Why I kon dey mistake you for the other guy.

LMAOOOOOO.

andrewbaba44:
You are mistaking airbere for air mark

Airbere drag busquets ke

Yeah apparently, LMAOOO

Airbere no vess abeg.

Kilishihunter:
Nah it can't be. Both of them get very distinct ways of talking even though them dey support London cowboys

Really thought it was the same person guy.

Yeahh the script is the same.

They only appreciate Barca's DMs once they have retired.

Eric Garcia till 2031 as how.😩

BykeLaByke:
Yeah apparently, LMAOOO

Airbere no vess abeg.

no whahala chief

jpmoriarti:
Yeahh the script is the same.

They only appreciate Barca's DMs once they have retired.

Not true lol
People who didn't rate Busquet in his prime will not suddenly rate him because he's now retired lol. 1b1me and others will not start rating Inietsa because he's now retired, no way.

What you should know is that, those who appreciate Bousquet or any player do so for life and vice versa. Messi said Busquet was the safe haven for everyone . It's no surprising that Barca started getting belt to a$$ in UCL when he slowed down. Since his departure, Barca is yet to replace him and will continue to suffer in UCL until the DM issue is addressed.

I rate Busquet very highly since 2008/2009 after the game Vs United in UCL final.

Are you guys it's not osimhen we'll later buy to become our next striker?