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casualobserver:
These Africans never learn. Name one African country that has benefited and grown from being an American lapdog?

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okeke6969:
Must Africans go to Washington to sign agreement before they can co-exist? Does it mean we cannot live in peace among ourselves in this continent?
This is unfortunate, the reason our development will be at snail speed.

The foolishness is contagious, Africans live on a continent with problems but solutions to their problems come from non-Africans from somewhere else.

What they have been fighting for years they just hand it over to their master for free who have been sponsoring the fighting in both side .

It will always be Africa resources or nothing

Osiris12:
Since they can’t extract their resources by themselves peacefully. Someone has to come in as a middleman .

Thank you trump. These guys will begin to see real development

You guys still don’t get it do you ?

No Western country will ever build anything that will benefit Africa because if they do you will no longer need them again .

That why you most remain in poverty forever.

If you doubt mention one they have done for Africa apart from terrorism .

SundiKeita:
You assert Norway got rich of American partnership but Norwegians have a better standard of living than the USA... why question is why America help their own self?

Sometimes you boys make disjointed arguments. It was American companies that discovered and pioneered the exploration of oil in Norway.
And its extremely foolish for a Nigerian to ask the US to help itself when the US is among the richest nations by any measure.
Clearly, they have done very well for themselves.

NwokoloOwa:
I said he is a con man naa.

I am a man without con

Oh! Con means brain 🧠 oooo, check word origin

The fight those nations dey fight no really concern America but you see those titanium and rare earth minerals are very much important to America. Americans are very desperate people and always go any length for their interests and gains. They can disguise as peace maker or philanthropist while getting their interests at any cost. If that did not work, they start with propagandas through their media and they start fighting with whoever stopping their interests. Someone says America like Nigeria, I laugh in swahili, lol... They are actually cooking something for their own gains.

seunmsg:
https://clashreport.com/world/articles/congo-and-rwanda-sign-us-brokered-peace-deal-in-washington-zw8wyff7q0b

okeke6969:
Must Africans go to Washington to sign agreement before they can co-exist? Does it mean we cannot live in peace among ourselves in this continent?
This is unfortunate, the reason our development will be at snail speed.

Get to the root cause of the war and influence of the West! Know what is being contested for and those with the highest stakes.

Search for those funding the war and what they stand to gain.

Have you heard them say they will go and save Congolese? But tell you they want to go and save Nigerians.

Use same deep dive investigation to know what’s going on in Sudan.

tctrills:
Sometimes you boys make disjointed arguments. It was American companies that discovered and pioneered the exploration of oil in Norway.
And its extremely foolish for a Nigerian to ask the US to help itself when the US is among the richest nations by any measure.
Clearly, they have done very well for themselves.

Every fool must learn... Norway and UK share straits of water called north sea. Both nations only explored for oil after netherlands had discovered large gas reserves off the north sea coast. Giving credit solely to Philips Petroleum shows u can't count who came first.
Accounting 101 - Assets - liabilities =?
U counting the most indebted nation in history as the richest shows ur level of education.

tctrills:
And its extremely foolish for a Nigerian to ask the US to help itself when the US is among the richest nations by any measure.
Clearly, they have done very well for themselves.

I rep Nigeria 🇳🇬 and all Afrika 💯.. even the British empire which the the sun never set is no more... what the hek is America, u must b havin

SundiKeita:
Every fool must learn... Norway and UK share straits of water called north sea. Both nations only explored for oil after netherlands had discovered large gas reserves off the north sea coast. Giving credit solely to Philips Petroleum shows u can't count who came first.
Accounting 101 - Assets - liabilities =?
U counting the most indebted nation in history as the richest shows ur level of education.

You are really shallow, i did not give credit solely to anyone. I only told you that Norway partnered with an American company and it brought great wealth.

You talk about debt and forgot to add that the US is by miles the most productive nation since création.

The only point you seem to be making here is that, the US is indebted so you dislike them. You don't seem to be a very serious person

tctrills:
You are really shallow, i did not give credit solely to anyone. I only told you that Norway partnered with an American company and it brought great wealth.

You talk about debt and forgot to add that the US is by miles the most productive nation since création.

The only point you seem to be making here is that, the US is indebted so you dislike them. You don't seem to be a very serious person

Norway and 5 differnt companies partnered, exactly what Britain did in the north sea so get of that American worshiping.
Guess u missed history class again, US isn't unique as u think just an extension of imperial Britain. If Nigeria 🇳🇬 and Afrikans do the needful n decided to dump holding this toilet paper us dollars and actually do the sensible and require others to hold African currencies to buy African resources u will understand what true power is.

Finally...wen were u born calling US most productive nation since creation shows u lack understanding of history... Oyyah carry go

N I stated their indebtedness not cos of hate but to remind u the British empire lasted almost 300 years, the yanks u worship won't even see 100 years...tell creation to refund u

Bluntemperor:
I don't agree with your submissions here,
For Is This The Time To Exploit Congo Or Rwanda?
What happened to Decades-of War, Betrayal - since the Lumunba - Mobutu Era of Total Exploitation of their Own MASSES?
Or
Do you think the Tutis and the Genocide War was a Small Scale that Should Continue Unabated?
Have you forgotten that even the Sales of Guns for all these years in fighting and killing Millions and displacing are they not -Exploitation too?
Trump Has his own Problems of talking but,if through him the Peace can be brought to Africa 🌍,so be It!
By the way,why Are the Fulani-terrorists getting Free Guns across the borders and don't you think that the USA has more -Information of those FUNDING these Criminals in Nigeria than even our government,since NIGERIAN Govt-is not forthcoming to tell us the WHOLE TRUTH on the SECURITY Problems here?

I respect that you disagree and explain why you do. Most here don't explain ... they condemn the submission and attack the messenger.

Is this the time to exploit Congo or Rwanda? For the US ... yes it is .... and many other African and South American countries. Rare earth minerals is the new oil to fuel this century's digital technology. China has the largest reserves ... and basically has the monopoly on production...the world including the US is at the mercy of China for the processed minerals. Then China has established roots in the African countries which have these minerals. The US is now trying to get a foothold in these countries to basically restrict Chinese influence and exploit these minerals. Why do you think Trump was considering invading Greenland? Look at Ukraine ... where he was long supposed to end the war but has not. Why? Russia doesn't want peace? He doesn't care about the Ukranians as much as he cares about their minerals. In the Peace Treaty he wants 50% of Ukraine s future revenue from its natural resources. This is after he first proposed control of mineral rich land ... that didn't sit well with Zelenski..neither does this new one. So if he doesn't care about the conflict and killings in Ukraine ...why would one think he would be concerned about the killings of Blacks in Africa period? In Minnesota...a White State ... a Somalian who entered the US as a refugee has been elected as a senator. Trump does not like that ... and has gone on the attack of all Somalians in the US and seeking to have them deported. Again... why would one think he is interested in Africans living peacefully amongst each other?

If any stepping in to resolve the conflict ... shouldn't it be the UN? Why would you hope the US can resolve the issue when their track record shows no success for this century?

Who supplies the terrorists with guns? That's a good question. I don't think you know many of these terrorists groups were formed by the US vis the CIA and Israel via the MOSSAD. Look it up. They are rebels ... freedom fighters when carrying out the agenda of their handlers ... but terrorists when they splinter and no longer listen to their masters. So yes... the US has more information than the FG on who is funding and funding these " Islamic terrorist groups".

You'all are always very stupid... America trying her best to broker peace in all regions and country hit with chaos and war. Why hasn't China done so...but each time America does this, people suddenly start saying that it's because of the Earth's minerals in those countries... total bullshit..

seunmsg:
Trump: We will be sending our biggest companies to the Congo and Rwanda. We will take out some of the rare earth, and take out some of the assets. Everybody will make a lot of money.

Trump:

We will be sending our biggest companies to the Congo and Rwanda.

We will take out some of the rare earth, and take out some of the assets.

Everybody will make a lot of money. pic.twitter.com/qEDRxnfvSc

— Clash Report (@clashreport) December 4, 2025

So what’s this all about? Congo is arguably the most endowed country in terms of mineral resources in the world. As a result, the country has never really known peace.

Last year, Rwanda, a US puppet country armed a militia group (Fulani militia style) to launch attack on Eastern Congo. Now, big brother Donald Trump steps in to say, hey guys, you all stop fighting. Let’s do a deal in which we guarantee security in this area and we move in our country’s companies to mine all the rare earth mineral resources. Don’t worry, we will give you imbecilic Africans some peanuts and everyone is happy. And boom, the President of Rwanda and Congo rushed to the US the deal.

Well, I guess we can all relate this to Nigeria. Again, nobody is coming to save anybody in Nigeria. All they want is exploitation and nothing else.

SundiKeita:
Norway and 5 differnt companies partnered, exactly what Britain did in the north sea so get of that American worshiping.
Guess u missed history class again, US isn't unique as u think just an extension of imperial Britain. If Nigeria 🇳🇬 and Afrikans do the needful n decided to dump holding this toilet paper us dollars and actually do the sensible and require others to hold African currencies to buy African resources u will understand what true power is.

Finally...wen were u born calling US most productive nation since creation shows u lack understanding of history... Oyyah carry go

N I stated their indebtedness not cos of hate but to remind u the British empire lasted almost 300 years, the yanks u worship won't even see 100 years...tell creation to refund u

You are making off topic arguments. And i guess you are doing it to show that you have done a bit if reading on the topic. No one said that only American companies were involved in oil exploration.
If you are really intelligent, you will read and understand what i wrote before replying.

Now, i will not reply to everything you wrote only to a few you got completely wrong.

So let me educate you.

The US is the most productive nation there has ever been and no nation comes close.
The question you should ask is how is productivity measured?

It is measured in GDP. No nation, empire or people has ever come close to the US figures adjusted for inflation..

Take almost any field of human endeavor the US is almost always number 1 or in rear occasions, number 2.
Agriculture, the US is but far the most productive
Tech, the US is number 1
Investment the US is top
Sports the US is number 1
Entertainment, the US is number 1
Manufacturing, the US is number 2
No nation comes close

Now you talked about debt, again let me educate you.

Lets make an analogy.
If i earn a million Naira and owe 2 million to the bank and you earn a hundred thousand but owe 500k to the bank, I clearly owe more but you actually owe a bigger percentage of your earns.
So look at debt to GDP and the US is no longer number 1.

Now, there are more ways to look at the health of an economy and debt is just one not the only way.

When you look at other factors, you discover that the US is by miles the most robust and sustaining economy in the world.

The economies of China, India, the EU, and Africa are far more fragile and much more likely to collapse before that of the US.

So stop praying for the fall of the US rather pray that your dying economy will survive.

HacheNoire:
Get to the root cause of the war and influence of the West! Know what is being contested for and those with the highest stakes.

Search for those funding the war and what they stand to gain.

Have you heard them say they will go and save Congolese? But tell you they want to go and save Nigerians.

Use same deep dive investigation to know what’s going on in Sudan.

I like your submission. Come to think of it, Burkina Faso cut their ties with France and they are fine, though they are facing a lot of indirect attacks and sabotage yet they are matching on without the west collaboration.
So what is the hell stopping Rwanda and Congo? Must they present themselves to their already known enemy to settle their resources war?

Mi

SundiKeita:
The foolishness is contagious, Africans live on a continent with problems but solutions to their problems come from non-Africans from somewhere else.

Bless you my brother, you understood my submission.
It is so unfortunate. These African leaders forget to understand that these same foreign leaders are indirectly funding war in Africa in their Insatiable quest for cheap minerals resources.

tctrills:
You are making off topic arguments. And i guess you are doing it to show that you have done a bit if reading on the topic. No one said that only American companies were involved in oil exploration.
If you are really intelligent, you will read and understand what i wrote before replying.

Now, i will not reply to everything you wrote only to a few you got completely wrong.

So let me educate you.

The US is the most productive nation there has ever been and no nation comes close.
The question you should ask is how is productivity measured?

It is measured in GDP. No nation, empire or people has ever come close to the US figures adjusted for inflation..

Take almost any field of human endeavor the US is almost always number 1 or in rear occasions, number 2.
Agriculture, the US is but far the most productive
Tech, the US is number 1
Investment the US is top
Sports the US is number 1
Entertainment, the US is number 1
Manufacturing, the US is number 2
No nation comes close

Now you talked about debt, again let me educate you.

Lets make an analogy.
If i earn a million Naira and owe 2 million to the bank and you earn a hundred thousand but owe 500k to the bank, I clearly owe more but you actually owe a bigger percentage of your earns.
So look at debt to GDP and the US is no longer number 1.

Now, there are more ways to look at the health of an economy and debt is just one not the only way.

When you look at other factors, you discover that the US is by miles the most robust and sustaining economy in the world.

The economies of China, India, the EU, and Africa are far more fragile and much more likely to collapse before that of the US.

So stop praying for the fall of the US rather pray that your dying economy will survive.

A word to the wise is enough.

The GDP you love so much — when did it start? c’mon quit playing, when did it start?
Read any so‑called American scholar from the 20th century — which people did they exclusively borrow from?
Even the mighty British Empire, which covered most of the world and whose currency was dominant, never had the gall to call itself the most productive on earth.

Your idea about the U.S. being the most productive nation in the world ever: this grand delusion is scary.
Human endeavour, agriculture, sports, manufacturing, tech and investments = incase u didn't know they have their own club
Its called OECD a club created by the same U.S. you claim to be the greatest ever, and see their rankings: report your findings

Your analogy bout debt holds no weight nieither, ur greatest nation can never ever repay their debts — remember where you heard it from.
Combine China, India, EU, and your fav USA — none of these parasites are even a fixture for we in Afrika to contend with. We in Afrika haven’t figured out what an economy is — that’s why these little boys come tell our govts to devalue currencies and overnight we’re all poorer.

I repeat, if Nigeria and Afrikans do the needful — decided to dump holding this toilet paper U.S. dollars and actually require others to hold African currencies to buy African resources — you will understand the true meaning of: "What an elder sees sitting down, a child cannot see even if he stands on an Iroko tree (or climbs a tall tree)"

okeke6969:
Mi


Bless you my brother, you understood my submission.
It is so unfortunate. These African leaders forget to understand that these same foreign leaders are indirectly funding war in Africa in their Insatiable quest for cheap minerals resources.

U welcome Fam, great minds think alike!

[quote author=SundiKeita post=137714135]A word to the wise is enough.

The GDP you love so much — when did it start? c’mon quit playing, when did it start?
Read any so‑called American scholar from the 20th century — which people did they exclusively borrow from?
Even the mighty British Empire, which covered most of the world and whose currency was dominant, never had the gall to call itself the most productive on earth.

Your idea about the U.S. being the most productive nation in the world ever: this grand delusion is scary.
Human endeavour, agriculture, sports, manufacturing, tech and investments = incase u didn't know they have their own club
Its called OECD a club created by the same U.S. you claim to be the greatest ever, and see their rankings: report your findings

Your analogy bout debt holds no weight nieither, ur greatest nation can never ever repay their debts — remember where you heard it from.
Combine China, India, EU, and your fav USA — none of these parasites are even a fixture for we in Afrika to contend with. We in Afrika haven’t figured out what an economy is — that’s why these little boys come tell our govts to devalue currencies and overnight we’re all poorer.

I repeat, if Nigeria and Afrikans do the needful — decided to dump holding this toilet paper U.S. dollars and actually require others to hold African currencies to buy African resources — you will understand the true meaning of: "What an elder sees sitting down, a child cannot see even if he stands on an Iroko tree (or climbs a tall tree)"[/quote

Oga, you asked a very childish question, when fid GDP start?
As long as there has been a civilization, there has been GDP. If your question was when did the study and calculation of GDP star, that would have been a much more intelligent question.
Now lets educate you once again, the British empire at its greatest was not as productive as the state of California today. In Peter Obi's voice Go and verify.

You keep saying things without verification so its impossible to have a discussion with you. If the US is not the most productive nation, then which nation is?

Then you make another childish comment about the US never paying their debt.

If the US cant pay its debt then who can? Is it Africa, ir China or the EU?

Lastly Africa as a whole, holds less then 10% of all dollar in circulation so you clearly dont know what you are saying

[quote author=tctrills post=137714246][/quote]Which civilizations do you know?
which era u from?
u don't qualfy for my free education, so just type in when did gdp start?

Peter Obi is simply talking bout cutting down the time it takes to get something done. But ur analogy is like saying cos u can travel from Lagos to Abuja faster than ppl in the 1970s, or communicate faster cos u have a mobile & they didn't u somehow have a better standard of living or quality of life..shhh u must be having a Grand delusion on an epic scale, productivity doesnt = higher standard of living - remember that

Yes, I stated and will repeat, the most indebted nation which has ever existed will never ever be able to repay their debts - remember where you heard it from.
U can't verify what i'm saying - so Imma help you, check the oecd stats and report bk ur findings. Why does the same usa u keep worshiping rank far far lower than other oecd countries on almost every standardized metric against their peers who are just stitched up countries and they not even empires, they can't even compete -- as they say travel and see

You are deluded beyond belief, if u tink Afrika needs dollars .. shhh Afrika has never ever needed anything from outsiders -- its all these parasites who leech of Afrika. what the is a dollar? abeg make we tink
I repeat, if Nigeria and Afrikans do the needful — decided to dump holding this toilet paper U.S. dollars and actually require outsiders to hold African currencies to buy African resources — you will understand the true meaning of empire.

SundiKeita:
Which civilizations do you know?
which era u from?
u don't qualfy for my free education, so just type in when did gdp start?

Peter Obi is simply talking bout cutting down the time it takes to get something done. But ur analogy is like saying cos u can travel from Lagos to Abuja faster than ppl in the 1970s, or communicate faster cos u have a mobile & they didn't u somehow have a better standard of living or quality of life..shhh u must be having a Grand delusion on an epic scale, productivity doesnt = higher standard of living - remember that

Yes, I stated and will repeat, the most indebted nation which has ever existed will never ever be able to repay their debts - remember where you heard it from.
U can't verify what i'm saying - so Imma help you, check the oecd stats and report bk ur findings. Why does the same usa u keep worshiping rank far far lower than other oecd countries on almost every standardized metric against their peers who are just stitched up countries and they not even empires, they can't even compete -- as they say travel and see

You are deluded beyond belief, if u tink Afrika needs dollars .. shhh Afrika has never ever needed anything from outsiders -- its all these parasites who leech of Afrika. what the is a dollar? abeg make we tink
I repeat, if Nigeria and Afrikans do the needful — decided to dump holding this toilet paper U.S. dollars and actually require outsiders to hold African currencies to buy African resources — you will understand the true meaning of empire.

Ok, now you are regurgitating your talking points. I guess we have both made our points. Have a wonderful day

tctrills:
Ok, now you are regurgitating your talking points. I guess we have both made our points. Have a wonderful day

yo, I'm still waiting for u to publish ur findings of oecd standardized metrics and why usa ranks so far far far lower than countries which supposedly are not productively like the usa.

SundiKeita:
yo, I'm still waiting for u to publish ur findings of oecd standardized metrics and why usa ranks so far far far lower than countries which supposedly are not productively like the usa.

I am sure do don't realize that you have been repeating the very same falsehoods since the discussion began. You haven't added anything new to the discussion.
Dont you thing its time we stop?
I am open to mew ideas even when they are wrong but continuous répétition of the same thing is not my thing.
Its ok to disagree

tctrills:
I am sure do don't realize that you have been repeating the very same falsehoods since the discussion began. You haven't added anything new to the discussion.
Dont you thing its time we stop?
I am open to mew ideas even when they are wrong but continuous répétition of the same thing is not my thing.
Its ok to disagree

i get ur point, let's wrap it up.
i have made only two (2) assertions repeatedly.
1. The usa is the most indebted nation which has ever existed will never ever be able to repay their debts.
2. I further debunked your claim repeatedly about usa being the most productive nation that has ever existed, u go fi verify 👉 https://www.oecd.org/ if i dey lie or na true.

SundiKeita:
i get ur point, let's wrap it up.
i have made only two (2) assertions repeatedly.
1. The usa is the most indebted nation which has ever existed will never ever be able to repay their debts.
2. I further debunked your claim repeatedly about usa being the most productive nation that has ever existed, u go fi verify 👉 https://www.oecd.org/ if i dey lie or na true.

You say you get my point but you obviously don't.
My point is , Man move on. We cant and should not continue to repeat. That's not how real men do things.
I will be happy to engage you bif or when you add new ideas or dimensions to the discussion.

Do you understand me now?

And do you really know the meaning of debunked.
You disagreed with me, that's different from debunking. Hope you are seeing why its not possible to have a discussion with you

tctrills:
You say you get my point but you obviously don't.
My point is , Man move on. We cant and should not continue to repeat. That's not how real men do things.
I will be happy to engage you bif or when you add new ideas or dimensions to the discussion.

Do you understand me now?

And do you really know the meaning of debunked.
You disagreed with me, that's different from debunking. Hope you are seeing why its not possible to have a discussion with you

kool g, no vex - i'll vibe with u on the next one

SundiKeita:
kool g, no vex - i'll vibe with u on the next one

Finally!! Thanks