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Ndyoo:
I am glad that roofing is a topic at the moment. An engineer recommended flat roof for me as a way to save cost. I smiled when I read here you are against it. I decided against it too.

Now I am at the point of roofing my project and I can't decide between aluminium and metro. The latter is cheaper in terms of the material but I was told that when I combine the cost of Purlins used to do it that it will amount to the same cost of using Aluminium.

Now I am confused : they say for aesthetics that Metro looks good in the eyes.

I was wondering in terms of heat resistance which one absorbs more heat because I plan that my folks will stay at the top floor when done.

Why would anyone one of you go for Metro and not Aluminium?

Hello sir,

Which one did you eventually go for? And can you send a picture or it (just the roof alone)

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Job description: concrete stamp flooring of a 280sqm compound.

Site location: ...............

Materials to be used for this stamp floor precast of volume of 280sqm
1.110 bags of cement
2.35tons of sharp sand
3.20tons of half inch granite
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5 .2 bags of release agent
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8.labour... 2k per sqm

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Omo! These are a lot of materials to use for this stamp floor pre-cast o...so this thing dey cost like this.

odimbannamdi:
Omo! These are a lot of materials to use for this stamp floor pre-cast o...so this thing dey cost like this.

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Yes oo .. the site is in a water logged area thats why the cement is that much . And yes we use this much materials for stamp concrete.

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BIGGIE121:
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Yes oo .. the site is in a water logged area thats why the cement is that much . And yes we use this much materials for stamp concrete.

Oh! That explains it then. Weldone. But why you no share the pictures of the site after it was done na?

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odimbannamdi:
Oh! That explains it then. Weldone. But why you no share the pictures of the site after it was done na?

The job is still waiting polish but full precast has been completed remaining to apply sealant.

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Architect Fee Dispute: 35% on Appliances & Demands for Profit Sharing?

Old regular here, showing face once more. I need a sanity check on a situation with an architect I hired to help prepare a bid for a remodeling contract.

The Background:

I engaged this architect to produce a pitch for my client. I’ve already paid for two specific bills:

Visualization: A 3D model (billed per sqm) plus an "express delivery" surcharge.

Technical Documentation: I requested a full technical suite (As-Built, RCP, Elevations, Demolition Plans, Schedules, etc.) to make the proposal solid. I received a separate bill for this documentation, which I paid.

The Issue:

Now that the final BoQ is ready, I have two major concerns regarding the fees and the payment structure:

1. The 35% "Professional Fee" on Store-Bought Items:

He has applied a flat 35% Professional Fee to the entire project cost. This includes store-bought items like appliances, ready-made furniture, and electronics.

My Question:

Is this standard practice? I assumed the 35% fee was for managing construction/artisans. Should I really be paying a 35% "design fee" on a microwave or a TV that I can pick up from a shop myself?

2. The "Profit Sharing" Demand:

Since this is a bid for a contract, I proposed paying a portion of his fee now and the balance once the contract is awarded. He agreed but is now demanding a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU). I have zero objection to the MoU.

However, instead of just securing his outstanding balance, he wants to know "the percentage of the total contract sum that will come to him."

My Question:

He seems to be asking for a cut of the profit or the gross contract sum rather than just his fixed fee and an interest fee for the delay between his delivery of the document and the award of the contract.

Is it normal for an architect to pivot from a service provider to a "partner", expecting a percentage of the deal just because I am deferring part of the payment?

I would appreciate advice from the pros in the house.

FEGEITOK:
Architect Fee Dispute: 35% on Appliances & Demands for Profit Sharing?

Old regular here, showing face once more. I need a sanity check on a situation with an architect I hired to help prepare a bid for a remodeling contract.

The Background:

I engaged this architect to produce a pitch for my client. I’ve already paid for two specific bills:

Visualization: A 3D model (billed per sqm) plus an "express delivery" surcharge.

Technical Documentation: I requested a full technical suite (As-Built, RCP, Elevations, Demolition Plans, Schedules, etc.) to make the proposal solid. I received a separate bill for this documentation, which I paid.

The Issue:

Now that the final BoQ is ready, I have two major concerns regarding the fees and the payment structure:

1. The 35% "Professional Fee" on Store-Bought Items:

He has applied a flat 35% Professional Fee to the entire project cost. This includes store-bought items like appliances, ready-made furniture, and electronics.

My Question:

Is this standard practice? I assumed the 35% fee was for managing construction/artisans. Should I really be paying a 35% "design fee" on a microwave or a TV that I can pick up from a shop myself?

2. The "Profit Sharing" Demand:

Since this is a bid for a contract, I proposed paying a portion of his fee now and the balance once the contract is awarded. He agreed but is now demanding a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU). I have zero objection to the MoU.

However, instead of just securing his outstanding balance, he wants to know "the percentage of the total contract sum that will come to him."

My Question:

He seems to be asking for a cut of the profit or the gross contract sum rather than just his fixed fee and an interest fee for the delay between his delivery of the document and the award of the contract.

Is it normal for an architect to pivot from a service provider to a "partner", expecting a percentage of the deal just because I am deferring part of the payment?

I would appreciate advice from the pros in the house.

35% is insane imho

Professional fees are usually in the 10% range and are based on the construction costs. Also I am not sure how you can change payment scheme - first being paid outside the professional scale of fees for render, drawings boq etc and then insisting on these for supervision

More importantly he is not your partner - he is a person providing you a service. He wants to share profit when he is not sharing risk

GloriousGbola:
35% is insane imho

Professional fees are usually in the 10% range and are based on the construction costs. Also I am not sure how you can change payment scheme - first being paid outside the professional scale of fees for render, drawings boq etc and then insisting on these for supervision

More importantly he is not your partner - he is a person providing you a service. He wants to share profit when he is not sharing risk

Thank you very much.

In summary:

The 35% fee is not a "Professional Fee."
That is a Profit Margin for a Design-Build Contractor.
He is surreptitiously trying to act as the Main Contractor, not just the Architect.

FEGEITOK:
Thank you very much

Google professional scale of fees construction Nigeria

GloriousGbola:
Google professional scale of fees construction Nigeria

Will do that and follow up with him. Let me tidy up the document for submission first.

When I raised the issue of 35% being exorbitant, he came down to 20%

When I raised the issue of store-bought items, he said it was because of the quality of the products he is sourcing.

I have been doing contracts since God knows when, but this is my second foray into construction-related stuff, he will be limited to the construction side of things only.

First, this one did not need an architect; this one does.

FEGEITOK:
Will do that and follow up with him. Let me tidy up the document for submission first.

When I raised the issue of 35% being exorbitant, he came down to 20%

When I raised the issue of store-bought items, he said it was because of the quality of the products he is sourcing.

I have been doing contracts since God knows when, but this is my second foray into construction-related stuff, he will be limited to the construction side of things only.

First, this one did not need an architect; this one does.

As you said you can buy most of your store bought direct from fouani etal

Who is doing construction - you or him? Because of defect liability.

GloriousGbola:
As you said you can buy most of your store bought direct from fouani etal

Who is doing construction - you or him? Because of defect liability.

I am the contractor of record.

I am mandated to stand by everything done for the next 1 year, and to remedy and rectify any and all issues at no cost the organization post-contract award during that time

FEGEITOK:
I am the contractor of record.

I am mandated to stand by everything done for the next 1 year, and to remedy and rectify any and all issues at no cost the organization post-contract award during that time

And the arch wants profit

You may want to bring in a second guy as an 'understudy' in case the arch goes rogue when work starts. (this is paranoia speaking)

More importantly, make sure you have in your mou that you will be provided with All construction documents. That is the published document as well as the original cad or revit files and all the boqs. You may create an online folder where these are regularly added to and which you can back up

You can also consider getting a professional friend to double check the drawings done so far just to be on the safe side.

FEGEITOK:
Thank you very much.

In summary:

The 35% fee is not a "Professional Fee."
That is a Profit Margin for a Design-Build Contractor.
He is surreptitiously trying to act as the Main Contractor, not just the Architect.

I have followed on the posts and to the point of the architect being the one to source for quality of store bought items.

Nevertheless if he is not bearing any risk(s) whatsoever on all aspects of the the project to be handed then I think a 20-25% fee is okay for him.
I would want to believe his experience and expertise on the job is way way above 15 years.

bixton:
I have followed on the posts and to the point of the architect being the one to source for quality of store bought items.

Nevertheless if he is not bearing any risk(s) whatsoever on all aspects of the the project to be handed then I think a 20-25% fee is okay for him.
I would want to believe his experience and expertise on the job is way way above 15 years.

First, his role is strictly limited to producing the technical documentation and supervision of the work. I have already paid a separate fee for the 'Market Survey,' which covered the time and effort required to research current prices for the BoQ. Therefore, I should not be charged again for that same effort via a percentage fee.

Second, I will be handling the sourcing of all store-bought items, appliances, and electronics personally. My procurement standards require a level of due diligence—specifically dealing directly with manufacturers and authorized representatives to ensure warranties—that goes beyond a standard open-market purchase.

Third, since I will be executing these purchases myself, and because the BoQ estimates likely already include a standard market buffer, these items must be excluded from the calculation of his Professional Fee. The 35% or now 20% fee should apply only to the construction works he is directly supervising, not to goods I am procuring myself.

FEGEITOK:
First, his role is strictly limited to producing the technical documentation and supervision of the work. I have already paid a separate fee for the 'Market Survey,' which covered the time and effort required to research current prices for the BoQ. Therefore, I should not be charged again for that same effort via a percentage fee.

Second, I will be handling the sourcing of all store-bought items, appliances, and electronics personally. My procurement standards require a level of due diligence—specifically dealing directly with manufacturers and authorized representatives to ensure warranties—that goes beyond a standard open-market purchase.

Third, since I will be executing these purchases myself, and because the BoQ estimates likely already include a standard market buffer, these items must be excluded from the calculation of his Professional Fee. The 35% or now 20% fee should apply only to the construction works he is directly supervising, not to goods I am procuring myself.

Man is running you street. He is supposed to have those prices or rates as a professional. Next he will be charging you for his ms office and revit 🏴‍☠️ licenses

odimbannamdi:
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Hello sir,

Which one did you eventually go for? And can you send a picture or it (just the roof alone)

I settled for stone tiles at the end. They're still installing it, I will send a picture when they're done.

FEGEITOK:
First, his role is strictly limited to producing the technical documentation and supervision of the work. I have already paid a separate fee for the 'Market Survey,' which covered the time and effort required to research current prices for the BoQ. Therefore, I should not be charged again for that same effort via a percentage fee.

Second, I will be handling the sourcing of all store-bought items, appliances, and electronics personally. My procurement standards require a level of due diligence—specifically dealing directly with manufacturers and authorized representatives to ensure warranties—that goes beyond a standard open-market purchase.

Third, since I will be executing these purchases myself, and because the BoQ estimates likely already include a standard market buffer, these items must be excluded from the calculation of his Professional Fee. [b]The 35% or now 20% fee should apply only to the construction works he is directly supervising, [/b]not to goods I am procuring myself.

The bolded is what it should be then.

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Somebody that calls himself a field agent of Obafemi Owode LG came to my site recently with this demand notice of 300k

Abeg, is this legit?
If yes, is it negotiable?
If yes, what should I negotiate it to?

laptopsforsale:
Somebody that calls himself a field agent of Obafemi Owode LG came to my site recently with this demand notice of 300k

Abeg, is this legit?
If yes, is it negotiable?
If yes, what should I negotiate it to?

They’re local government revenue collectors.
Though they operate as a contractor in the local government sector means they’re mostly private companies generating revenue for the local government.

They name the enforcement stacking permits.
You can call them and offer them what you can afford.

FEGEITOK:
Architect Fee Dispute: 35% on Appliances & Demands for Profit Sharing?

Old regular here, showing face once more. I need a sanity check on a situation with an architect I hired to help prepare a bid for a remodeling contract.

The Background:

I engaged this architect to produce a pitch for my client. I’ve already paid for two specific bills:

Visualization: A 3D model (billed per sqm) plus an "express delivery" surcharge.

Technical Documentation: I requested a full technical suite (As-Built, RCP, Elevations, Demolition Plans, Schedules, etc.) to make the proposal solid. I received a separate bill for this documentation, which I paid.

The Issue:

Now that the final BoQ is ready, I have two major concerns regarding the fees and the payment structure:

1. The 35% "Professional Fee" on Store-Bought Items:

He has applied a flat 35% Professional Fee to the entire project cost. This includes store-bought items like appliances, ready-made furniture, and electronics.

My Question:

Is this standard practice? I assumed the 35% fee was for managing construction/artisans. Should I really be paying a 35% "design fee" on a microwave or a TV that I can pick up from a shop myself?

2. The "Profit Sharing" Demand:

Since this is a bid for a contract, I proposed paying a portion of his fee now and the balance once the contract is awarded. He agreed but is now demanding a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU). I have zero objection to the MoU.

However, instead of just securing his outstanding balance, he wants to know "the percentage of the total contract sum that will come to him."

My Question:

He seems to be asking for a cut of the profit or the gross contract sum rather than just his fixed fee and an interest fee for the delay between his delivery of the document and the award of the contract.

Is it normal for an architect to pivot from a service provider to a "partner", expecting a percentage of the deal just because I am deferring part of the payment?

I would appreciate advice from the pros in the house.

This is not normal AT ALL.
If he wants a separate agreement to go into business with you he should say so!!!.

Asking for 35 percent on finished goods is just incredible.

It is not done anywhere. even concierge installers/designers do not collect such.

I would advise that you get the final construction documents which you said you have paid for before moving forward with any discussion.

So if the clients want to buy 5 million naira sitting room furniture and 5 million naira TV, he will collect 35% too??

Make sure you collect the required documents that you have paid for before doing any further discussion. and as Glorious said get another architect/engineer as an alternative Because such a person will likely withhold the final technical or construction documents if you do not comply with the ridiculous demand.

acmebuilding:
This is not normal AT ALL.
If he wants a separate agreement to go into business with you he should say so!!!.

Asking for 35 percent on finished goods is just incredible.

It is not done anywhere. even concierge installers/designers do not collect such.

I would advise that you get the final construction documents which you said you have paid for before moving forward with any discussion.

So if the clients want to buy 5 million naira sitting room furniture and 5 million naira TV, he will collect 35% too??

Make sure you collect the required documents that you have paid for before doing any further discussion. and as Glorious said get another architect/engineer as an alternative Because such a person will likely withhold the final technical or construction documents if you do not comply with the ridiculous demand.

In addition you may want to put a barrier between the arch and the client. He may try to steal the job.or future jobs

And you want soft copies of the documents. Not printouts. Not pdf. Dwg cad files at the minimum

This should actually be your standard. I have worked on plenty of projects where there was no proper file retention policy and it meant a tedious process of first recreating the drawings from scratch.

BIGGIE121:
Good evening how are we all?

Keep us busy this week.

Call /Whatsapp 09068938839 for interlock and all types of decorative concrete flooring (stamped floor/alternate bay concrete floor )

Below are pictures of alternate bay concrete floor

Did you do those flooring in the last two pictures?

laptopsforsale:
Somebody that calls himself a field agent of Obafemi Owode LG came to my site recently with this demand notice of 300k

Abeg, is this legit?
If yes, is it negotiable?
If yes, what should I negotiate it to?

Please, how much did you pay for the approval of the building. I am talking with someone who said that he stays at Abeokuta and is in the physical planning department of Ogun state.

He is charging 28 percent of the total land value plus 250k for the first batch of payment, according to him.

This is a 4 bedroom bungalow that I'm trying to build in the Obafemi Owode local government area.

I hope the so called local government officials will not come after making such a ridiculous payment