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My first question to you is this What does God means in the Bible, is it just a name or a System?
Second, do you understand the context of the whole Scriptures and it relates to life itself?

Antichristian2:
1. If God is all-loving and forgiving, why didn’t He teach Adam to ask for forgiveness and forgive both himself and Eve? Since God created Adam and sin, shouldn’t He have established a system of forgiveness from the very beginning?

2. If God gave mankind laws in the Old Testament knowing that people would struggle to fully obey them, can God still be considered loving and just? Isn’t it said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear?

3. If Jesus were to save even one person from eternal punishment in Hell, wouldn’t He need to endure an equivalent eternal punishment Himself? If He saves billions, does that mean He must spend billions of eternities in Hell? How can three days and three nights of death save billions from an eternal Hell? Where is the fairness in that?

These are atheistic questions. Are you an atheist?

You could have asked GPT with unbiased prompt.

They can't answer your question, bcus they don't have an answer

Antichristian2:
1. If God is all-loving and forgiving, why didn’t He teach Adam to ask for forgiveness and forgive both himself and Eve? Since God created Adam and sin, shouldn’t He have established a system of forgiveness from the very beginning?

2. If God gave mankind laws in the Old Testament knowing that people would struggle to fully obey them, can God still be considered loving and just? Isn’t it said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear?

3. If Jesus were to save even one person from eternal punishment in Hell, wouldn’t He need to endure an equivalent eternal punishment Himself? If He saves billions, does that mean He must spend billions of eternities in Hell? How can three days and three nights of death save billions from an eternal Hell? Where is the fairness in that?

1) Who does not know to ask for forgiveness when they have wronged a person?

Adam rather than ask, chose to blame God thereby saying he has done no wrong to be forgiven for.

So not God's fault but Adam's.

And you are doing as Adam did, so nothing for you.

2) People have kept the Laws so your excuse of struggle holds no water for your failures.

So no hope there.

3) Saving takes place before anyone is thrown into the fire.

Fire is proof of condemnation.

So your hope that Jesus will not throw anyone in fire so he doesn't have to endure the fire, is quashed.

So you see you are in deeeeep trouble.

Antichristian2:
1. If God is all-loving and forgiving, why didn’t He teach Adam to ask for forgiveness and forgive both himself and Eve? Since God created Adam and sin, shouldn’t He have established a system of forgiveness from the very beginning?

The Bible God never claimed to be all knowing rather He knows the beginning and end of what He purposed {Revelations 22:13} since there is nothing that can stop Him so whatever stands as obstacles will be uprooted {Isaiah 55:9-10} but as for what each person will choose to do that is left to humans! Genesis 22:12

Antichristian2:
2. If God gave mankind laws in the Old Testament knowing that people would struggle to fully obey them, can God still be considered loving and just? Isn’t it said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear?

Some humans successfully lived by God's laws that's evidence that what He asked for is not beyond our ability.

Antichristian2:
3. If Jesus were to save even one person from eternal punishment in Hell, wouldn’t He need to endure an equivalent eternal punishment Himself? If He saves billions, does that mean He must spend billions of eternities in Hell? How can three days and three nights of death save billions from an eternal Hell? Where is the fairness in that?

God never talked about eternal torment the wages (punishment) for sin is death {Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17} the idea of sustaining living dead is from Satan who said there is nothing called death! Genesis 3:4

Kai! See as satan don make people fear-die k0lo with wishing they can change the past.

Death row people can over wish.

Antichristian2:
[size=12pt]1. If God is all-loving and forgiving, why didn’t He teach Adam to ask for forgiveness and forgive both himself and Eve? Since God created Adam and sin, shouldn’t He have established a system of forgiveness from the very beginning?

Did you see Him teach Adam anything?
No!
Because Adam already knew.

Secondly, there is nothing to forgive if no offence is given. And no offence was given.

3) Stop Wishing! You cannot change the past. So this is pointless and your silent blasphemy did not unnoted by heaven

Antichristian2:
2. If God gave mankind laws in the Old Testament knowing that people would struggle to fully obey them, can God still be considered loving and just? Isn’t it said that God should not burden people beyond what they can bear?

Now you are doing Ananias and sapphira thinking you can deceive God and still blaspheme Him and you wonder why you are afraid of judgement Day

Surely, you would pay for your jots and idle thoughts of blasphemy. Especially as you stu.. ly choose to forget that God knows that you can even keep The Laws even when He did not Write them down just like Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham... did and has seen you keep it.

So, you have no excuse and God has already been loving and just even when you do not deserve it and I would tell Him to put yew in the fire lake body and soul even while you are still on earth.

Antichristian2:
If Jesus were to save even one person from eternal punishment in Hell, wouldn’t He need to endure an equivalent eternal punishment Himself? If He saves billions, does that mean He must spend billions of eternities in Hell? How can three days and three nights of death save billions from an eternal Hell? Where is the fairness in that?[/color]

Death row people can wish.

No need to wish. God is not plucking out anybody, even if a toenail from the eternal punishment (E.P) as He has done all the saving He Planned and wished to do,

So, you are not the one to tell Him how to save or when to save or who to save.

Plus, the salvation was to save man from the E. Punishment which is to come. So, He is not going into E.pun to save you. It is just you and your kind that will be rhoast thing there

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see Him teach Adam anything?
No!
Because Adam already knew.

Secondly, there is nothing to forgive if no offence is given. And no offence was given.

3) Stop Wishing! You cannot change the past. So this is pointless and your silent blasphemy did not unnoted by heaven



Now you are doing Ananias and sapphira thinking you can deceive God and still blaspheme Him and you wonder why you are afraid of judgement Day

Surely, you would pay for your jots and idle thoughts of blasphemy. Especially as you stu.. ly choose to forget that God knows that you can even keep The Laws even when He did not Write them down just like Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham... did and has seen you keep it.

So, you have no excuse and God has already been loving and just even when you do not deserve it and I would tell Him to put yew in the fire lake body and soul even while you are still on earth.



Condemned people can

Imagine nonsense ooo

truespeak:
1) Who does not know to ask for forgiveness when they have wronged a person?

Adam rather than ask, chose to blame God thereby saying he has done no wrong to be forgiven for.

So not God's fault but Adam's.

And you are doing as Adam did, so nothing for you.

2) People have kept the Laws so your excuse of struggle holds no water for your failures.

So no hope there.

3) Saving takes place before anyone is thrown into the fire.

Fire is proof of condemnation.

So your hope that Jesus will not throw anyone in fire so he doesn't have to endure the fire, is quashed.

So you see you are in deeeeep trouble.

Better hot one.

ayoncox:
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Second, do you understand the context of the whole Scriptures and it relates to life itself?

He does.
He knows that God is going to throw him there so he is just wishing all kinds of things

Did I not tell you those days when you were blaspheming and insalting God that you will greatly regret it? See, it now you are wishing you could change the past

Rexymania:
They can't answer your question, bcus they don't have an answer

Most people cannot answer the questions because questions based on wishes are invalid and unreasonable questions.

And secondly, because no one can change the past so answering an "I wish" question is completely useless and a waste of thinking

Coder2Client:
These are atheistic questions. Are you an atheist?

You could have asked GPT with unbiased prompt.

They are not! And i am not! I just believe God is fair and Just.

truespeak:
1) Who does not know to ask for forgiveness when they have wronged a person?

Adam rather than ask, chose to blame God thereby saying he has done no wrong to be forgiven for.

So not God's fault but Adam's.

And you are doing as Adam did, so nothing for you.

You mean God created Adam unaware of his sin? Whose fault is it if a manufactured product is faulty? God created Adam. God created a means for him to sin. Did God create a means for him to repent? Show us? Don't just think Adam knows as we know today! We are already developed past the time of Adam!

2) People have kept the Laws so your excuse of struggle holds no water for your failures.

So no hope there.

How come Paul in Romans 3:23 (NIV) said: "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," If people have fully kept the law then they won't have sinned!

3) Saving takes place before anyone is thrown into the fire.

Fire is proof of condemnation.

So your hope that Jesus will not throw anyone in fire so he doesn't have to endure the fire, is quashed.

So you see you are in deeeeep trouble.

You don't get the question! Read again. Someone said Jesus died for me. The hell i was to spend my eternity...he has died for three days and three nights only! To save only me, he should be punished in hell for eternity!

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible God never claimed to be all knowing rather He knows the beginning and end of what He purposed {Revelations 22:13} since there is nothing that can stop Him so whatever stands as obstacles will be uprooted {Isaiah 55:9-10} but as for what each person will choose to do that is left to humans! Genesis 22:12

God is All-Knowing even from your scripture 1 John 3:20, Psalm 147:5 and Hebrews 4:13. Seems you are forgeting things abi na ignorance!

Some humans successfully lived by God's laws that's evidence that what He asked for is not beyond our ability.

Which humans have done so? Are they exempted from Romans 3:23....for all have sinned...?

God never talked about eternal torment the wages (punishment) for sin is death {Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17} the idea of sustaining living dead is from Satan who said there is nothing called death! Genesis 3:4

So in JW parlance how did Jesus (in a fair and just way) died for each and everyone's sin?

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see Him teach Adam anything?
No!
Because Adam already knew.

Secondly, there is nothing to forgive if no offence is given. And no offence was given.

3) Stop Wishing! You cannot change the past. So this is pointless and your silent blasphemy did not unnoted by heaven

How did you know Adam already knew? Show us!

Now you are doing Ananias and sapphira thinking you can deceive God and still blaspheme Him and you wonder why you are afraid of judgement Day

Surely, you would pay for your jots and idle thoughts of blasphemy. Especially as you stu.. ly choose to forget that God knows that you can even keep The Laws even when He did not Write them down just like Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, Abraham... did and has seen you keep it.

So, you have no excuse and God has already been loving and just even when you do not deserve it and I would tell Him to put yew in the fire lake body and soul even while you are still on earth.

Gibberish! Seems you don't intend to answer the question!

Death row people can wish.

No need to wish. God is not plucking out anybody, even if a toenail from the eternal punishment (E.P) as He has done all the saving He Planned and wished to do,

So, you are not the one to tell Him how to save or when to save or who to save.

Plus, the salvation was to save man from the E. Punishment which is to come. So, He is not going into E.pun to save you. It is just you and your kind that will be rhoast thing there

Thread Derailer!

Antichristian2:
You mean God created Adam unaware of his sin? Whose fault is it if a manufactured product is faulty? God created Adam. God created a means for him to sin. Did God create a means for him to repent? Show us? Don't just think Adam knows as we know today! We are already developed past the time of Adam!

This is Off Point.


You got the fact that Adam chose to blame God rather than ask for forgiveness so this is clearly you going off the rails.

Antichristian2:
How come Paul in Romans 3:23 (NIV) said: "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," If people have fully kept the law then they won't have sinned!

Now you go off Point again for you said people were struggling and I pointed out that people have kept it and now you move to all have sinned which is not the issue but that the Law can be kept and has already been kept.

So no issue here!

Antichristian2:
You don't get the question! Read again. Someone said Jesus died for me. The hell i was to spend my eternity...he has died for three days and three nights only! To save only me, he should be punished in hell for eternity!

It is immaterial what anyone said.

What is material is that saving comes before fire. So fire is for those who are condemned and that is where you find yourself hence all these!

And you have not even started.

Antichristian2:
God is All-Knowing even from your scripture 1 John 3:20, Psalm 147:5 and Hebrews 4:13. Seems you are forgeting things abi na ignorance!

I have told you that God knows what He wants to do and nothing can stop Him as He has a master plan but regarding what each human will choose to do He doesn't claim to know that because our way of thinking is not one way like other creatures! Genesis 6:5

Antichristian2:
Which humans have done so? Are they exempted from Romans 3:23....for all have sinned...?

That is about Adamic sin inherit not the sin each human committed! Romans 5:12 compare to Psalms 51:5

Antichristian2:
So in JW parlance how did Jesus (in a fair and just way) died for each and everyone's sin?

Jesus paid back Adamic sin which infected all humans. John 1:29

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible God never claimed to be all knowing rather He knows the beginning and end of what He purposed {Revelations 22:13} since there is nothing that can stop Him so whatever stands as obstacles will be uprooted {Isaiah 55:9-10} but as for what each person will choose to do that is left to humans! Genesis 22:12


Some humans successfully lived by God's laws that's evidence that what He asked for is not beyond our ability.


God never talked about eternal torment the wages (punishment) for sin is death {Romans 6:23 compare to Genesis 2:17} the idea of sustaining living dead is from Satan who said there is nothing called death! Genesis 3:4

the Bible god claim to be all knowing,so the god knows both the present and the future,the god is a murderer and a blood sucking,heartless being.
He encouraged covetousness and other bad things to name

Arda1000:
the Bible god claim to be all knowing,so the god knows both the present and the future,the god is a murderer and a blood sucking,heartless being.
He encouraged covetousness and other bad things to name

Dear Politicians i know you won't rest after reading my post but then try focus on what really matters mostly to you this is about faith in God not politics.
Thanks!😟

MaxInDHouse:
Dear Politicians i know you won't rest after reading my post but then try focus on what really matters mostly to you this is about faith in God not politics.
Thanks!😟

is that all u can come up with?

Arda1000:
is that all u can come up with?

Check how many post you drop here on daily basis and see where your heart goes.
So your heart treasures politics more than anything else therefore when talking about faith in God you won't be able to cope instead you might even become aggressively abusive.
I'm sorry there is no need engaging me regarding faith in God.
Thanks.

MaxInDHouse:
Check how many post you drop here on daily basis and see where your heart goes.
So your heart treasures politics more than anything else therefore when talking about faith in God you won't be able to cope instead you might even become aggressively abusive.
I'm sorry there is no need engaging me regarding faith in God.
Thanks.

you are a funny person,so engaging in politics means I can’t engage with delusional people like you?

Arda1000:
you are a funny person,so engaging in politics means I can’t engage with delusional people like you?

Politics makes people mean and hateful so instead of seeing the brighter side of things they are bent on picking faults.
So it's better to be delusional as you call it than being hateful and aggressively abusive towards people who never hurt me in any way!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Politics makes people mean and hateful so instead of seeing the brighter side of things they are bent on picking faults.
So it's better to be delusional as you call it than being hateful and aggressively abusive towards people who never hurt me in any way!🙂

tactically running away from my superior argument hahaha.
Such a coward

Arda1000:
tactically running away from my superior argument hahaha.
Such a coward

Better let you enjoy your self acclaimed trophy than engaging in meaningless arguments! Proverbs 14:6🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Better let you enjoy your self acclaimed trophy than engaging in meaningless arguments! Proverbs 14:6🙂

how quoting book written by semiliterate goat herders from Arabia makes you feel funky is hilarious

Arda1000:
how quoting book written by semiliterate goat herders from Arabia makes you feel funky is hilarious

Better than being aggressively abusive and hateful!🙂

Banned for vulgar speeches!
Politicians wants change they try in so many ways thinking they can change others whereas real change starts with you!