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Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 5:43pm On Dec 12, 2025
If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?

If it is claimed that Jesus died as God, we must remember that God is eternal and does not die.

And if it is suggested that Jesus was a hermaphroditic God-man, this concept is problematic because the state of being both God and man simultaneously is contradictory—God does not die, but man does.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, Eve ate the forbidden fruit before Adam. So why do we only hear about "Adam's sin" and not "Eve's sin"?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Dtruthspeaker: 6:32pm On Dec 12, 2025
Antichristian2:
[size=12pt]If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?..]
It is not for you or any man to decide how the atonement should be.
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Zocalite: 7:36pm On Dec 12, 2025
You are really a antichristian

Keep it up, satan will reward you in hell
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 9:54am On Dec 13, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
It is not for you or any man to decide how the atonement should be.
So how is it fair for God to sacrifice someone else for Adam's sin?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:56am On Dec 13, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?
Jesus died as a soul but a perfect soul equivalent to Adam! 1Corinthans 15:45
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 11:34am On Dec 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus died as a soul but a perfect soul equivalent to Adam! 1Corinthans 15:45
If Jesus died for Adam's sins only then what about Eve's sin!

Eve too did ate from the fruit of the tree right?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by AntiChristian: 11:42am On Dec 13, 2025
Zocalite:
You are really a antichristian

Keep it up, satan will reward you in hell
Has Satan rewarded any of your relatives in hell before for you to know Satan rewards people in hell?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:57am On Dec 13, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died for Adam's sins only then what about Eve's sin!
Eve too did ate from the fruit of the tree right?
The couple is gone forever they died for their disobedience so during resurrection both of them will not be raised back to life unlike their descendants who inherited sin through them.
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Zocalite: 12:32pm On Dec 13, 2025
AntiChristian:
Has Satan rewarded any of your relatives in hell before for you to know Satan rewards people in hell?
When you get there you will know?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02pm On Dec 13, 2025
Antichristian2:
So how is it fair for God to sacrifice someone else for Adam's sin?
Did the Person complain? Plus did you not hear that the Person agreed?

So, you have no right to query how the atonement should be done.
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by AntiChristian: 7:50am On Dec 14, 2025
Zocalite:
When you get there you will know?
At least shows us your evidence Satan will be rewarding anyone?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 9:18am On Dec 14, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?

If it is claimed that Jesus died as God, we must remember that God is eternal and does not die.

And if it is suggested that Jesus was a hermaphroditic God-man, this concept is problematic because the state of being both God and man simultaneously is contradictory—God does not die, but man does.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, Eve ate the forbidden fruit before Adam. So why do we only hear about "Adam's sin" and not "Eve's sin"?
No need to confuse yourself, He had the power to atone for the sins of all mankind. And in His words, He had the power to give up His life and take it up again.
Our Father in heaven did not need to send billions of people to atone for everyone that ever lived, His Son Jesus Christ had the power to take up every human sin and pay the price.

Now, can a God die?
We learn from Jesus Christ that as a God, He had the power to give up His life and take it up again.

I understand you have your opinion of what a God can and can't do but Jesus Christs sacrifice answers that for you and I
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 9:21am On Dec 14, 2025
Antichristian2:
So how is it fair for God to sacrifice someone else for Adam's sin?
Its so fair. Jesus Christ willingly gave Himself.
The Father did this Out of love so not only is it fair, it is also the greatest show of love
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 9:52am On Dec 14, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?

If it is claimed that Jesus died as God, we must remember that God is eternal and does not die.

And if it is suggested that Jesus was a hermaphroditic God-man, this concept is problematic because the state of being both God and man simultaneously is contradictory—God does not die, but man does.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, Eve ate the forbidden fruit before Adam. So why do we only hear about "Adam's sin" and not "Eve's sin"?
I have already addressed your concerns above but i just wanted to comment and commend you. You always have thoughtful and insightful questions. We need more of that and more people like you. I only pray that one day, you will see clearly and understand better.
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Zocalite: 3:53pm On Dec 14, 2025
AntiChristian:
At least shows us your evidence Satan will be rewarding anyone?
You have already been judged, just like a recalcitrant tenant who was given quit notice with time to exit the building

When you allowance period is ended, you will meet your master in hell

But in the main time you are free to continue being antichristian
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by gohf: 5:21pm On Dec 14, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died as a man, then it seems unfair that one man could atone for the sins of the entire world. Shouldn't it be a soul for a soul?
if you are going make this argument then you should at least state the basis for making this. I mean why should it be a soul for a soul? How do you quantify and measure the soul of a person?

If it is claimed that Jesus died as God, we must remember that God is eternal and does not die.

And if it is suggested that Jesus was a hermaphroditic God-man, this concept is problematic because the state of being both God and man simultaneously is contradictory—God does not die, but man does.

Furthermore, according to the Bible, Eve ate the forbidden fruit before Adam. So why do we only hear about "Adam's sin" and not "Eve's sin"?
you have asked a different question here unrelated with your topic or previous question but the answer is, whom did God command do not eat this fruit? Adam or Eve

What did God tell Eve? Isn't it for what she did giving the fruit to Adam?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by gohf: 5:22pm On Dec 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus died as a soul but a perfect soul equivalent to Adam! 1Corinthans 15:45
Jesus died as what? A soul? Who killed his soul? The Romans abi?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by gohf: 5:24pm On Dec 14, 2025
Antichristian2:
If Jesus died for Adam's sins only then what about Eve's sin!

Eve too did ate from the fruit of the tree right?
lol where did you read Jesus died for Adam's sins only
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by gohf: 5:26pm On Dec 14, 2025
tctrills:
No need to confuse yourself, He had the power to atone for the sins of all mankind. And in His words, He had the power to give up His life and take it up again.
Our Father in heaven did not need to send billions of people to atone for everyone that ever lived, His Son Jesus Christ had the power to take up every human sin and pay the price.

Now, can a God die?
We learn from Jesus Christ that as a God, He had the power to give up His life and take it up again.

I understand you have your opinion of what a God can and can't do but Jesus Christs sacrifice answers that for you and I
So Jesus as a God of? God of what?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 6:05pm On Dec 14, 2025
gohf:
So Jesus as a God of? God of what?
Please as a clear question.
Jesus Christ is God of the whole universe
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by gohf: 7:49am On Dec 15, 2025
tctrills:
Please as a clear question.
Jesus Christ is God of the whole universe
okay then YHVH is God of where again?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 9:10am On Dec 15, 2025
gohf:
okay then YHVH is God of where again?
Did you not read that the Father and the Son are one? They form the Godhead that rule over the universe
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 9:24am On Dec 15, 2025
gohf:
lol where did you read Jesus died for Adam's sins only
You know Christians get theories according to denominations!

What's your own theory, whose sins did Jesus die for? Is it not the Original sin inherited from Adam?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 9:48am On Dec 15, 2025
gohf:
if you are going make this argument then you should at least state the basis for making this. I mean why should it be a soul for a soul? How do you quantify and measure the soul of a person?
When Adam was created how many soul did God breath into him? An individual has only a soul. Jesus has only a soul. We all each have only one soul. So can you explain what is there to measure? We are not talking about the quality here! A soul = A human!

you have asked a different question here unrelated with your topic or previous question but the answer is, whom did God command do not eat this fruit? Adam or Eve
God commanded Adam and since Eve came out of Adam she understood the command also included her. Genesis 3:1-3.

What did God tell Eve? Isn't it for what she did giving the fruit to Adam?
Both of them were punished for the sins they commited. But why do we hear of Adamic sin and not Evenic sin, since they both commited the sin, in fact it was Eve that sinned first according to the Bible?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 10:02am On Dec 15, 2025
tctrills:
Its so fair. Jesus Christ willingly gave Himself.
The Father did this Out of love so not only is it fair, it is also the greatest show of love
So as a father you can kill your son to save others and that is your measure of love?

When Jesus told one man that his sins was forgiven, what does that statement mean? Matthew 9:2–8; Mark 2:3–12; Luke 5:18–26
Has Jesus died for his sins to be forgiven by Jesus at that time?
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 11:56am On Dec 15, 2025
Antichristian2:
So as a father you can kill your son to save others and that is your measure of love?

When Jesus told one man that his sins was forgiven, what does that statement mean? Matthew 9:2–8; Mark 2:3–12; Luke 5:18–26
Has Jesus died for his sins to be forgiven by Jesus at that time?
It tells you that the atonement of Jesus Christ cuts across time, it is not held back by constraints such as time.
The bible calls Him the Lamb slain before the world began so don't be surprised that many were blessed by His sacrifice even before the physical event. That is the power of God
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by Antichristian2(op): 4:56pm On Dec 15, 2025
tctrills:
It tells you that the atonement of Jesus Christ cuts across time, it is not held back by constraints such as time.
The bible calls Him the Lamb slain before the world began so don't be surprised that many were blessed by His sacrifice even before the physical event. That is the power of God
No, it shows the salvation theory is false! David was forgiven after the Biblical adultery narrative with Bethsheba and there was no blood sacrifice! Was Jesus involved?

You guys sha!
Re: Reflections On The Nature Of Jesus' Death And The Concept Of Original Sin! by tctrills: 6:13pm On Dec 15, 2025
Antichristian2:
No, it shows the salvation theory is false! David was forgiven after the Biblical adultery narrative with Bethsheba and there was no blood sacrifice! Was Jesus involved?

You guys sha!
Oga you are not making a point or you are choosing to see faults were there are none.

That the atonement of Christ was so powerful that it brought forgiveness to many even before the sacrifice of Christs shows its power.
It shows it is truly an eternal salvation that cuts across time.
Jesus Christ is the beginning and the end time is not a constraints to Him.
Where you see faults we see eternal and endless power that is not hindered by time.
Do you now understand Christianity better?
I know you don't believe but at least now, you should understand
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