₦airaland Forum

2elliot:
Just imagine that it is Igbo land that all these refineries are springing up when they do not have the oil needed to run them and they are banking on the oil from South south, everyone would have opposed them. Today, the same south south that was shouting our oyel our oyel to the Igbos, have all kept quiet as the yaribas and the hawusa foolanis pillage the oil resources with reckless abandon.
Let the south south continue fooling themselves and be seeing the Igbos as their enemies, while the south west continue using the oil to industrialise their region and leave them behind.

lilsmart:
1. Safety has nothing to do with it Because in those regions you claim are unsafe they still have Industries Even if it's not big. safety is safety.

Let me Use this as an example. If you have free plot Directly behind Your current house you are living And the land is unkept and Bushy You would definitely be expecting reptiles and rodent But as soon as you develop that property They Vanish

This tells you that development bring peace and Calmness to a society

2. The people of Ogun didn't misse the opportunity. They still have their land and can develop it any they want to.

Note: Them no dey catch late comers for development matter

Flangelo12:
Safety has nothing to do with it?

Go to Sambisa to open a beer parlour na.

Okoroawusa:
After now someone will come and say it's because Lagos was a federal capital many years ago like Calabar and Lokoja were not once capitals. When you catch them on that one they will change and tell you it's because Lagos is by the sea like Port Harcourt, Warri, and many coastal cities in Nigeria are not by the sea.

Tjra:
Lagos state government always wooing investors. This is what our governors in Southeast should be doing.

Lets bring production to the east. Abia state has the potential to be the factory of Africa. There is stable power there now.

We have what it takes.

Osiris12:
As delta state don use cultists chase away all the expatriates. The problem of delta state is the people living there

SonOfDSoil01:
so you will tell a private investor where to invest its money? So why re most ibos also leaving their region undeveloped to go and deverop ragos? This is the result of nzobu nzobu and no investor want to have their investment burnt down by some miscreant just because they want Biafra

Flangelo12:
The Internet allows all manner of dunces to have an opinion and claim they are making sense.

Nobody, would locate any meaningful industry, especially of national interest in the restive East.

Not even your brothers would.

SonOfDSoil01:
you still end up saying nothing…if safety is not the reasons then why has Sw continued to attract more investment both local and foreign investment? Which sane investors will go and invest in a region like SE where ipob terrorist have made the place unsafe and locking down the region every Monday? Or SS that also have criminal elements holding sway with cultism, kidnapping, and at a point militancy. You can continue deceiving yourself but the fact remains that Sw is still the safest region and economically viable with a ready market for products manufactured by most of the industry domiciled here and having the necessary infrastructure such a seaport, airport, railways etc

lilsmart:
Let's hit on the undeniable logistical truth the sheer scale of machinery for massive industrial projects like refineries makes Lagos's ports the only feasible entry point, as their unique capacity and heavy lift capabilities are unmatched elsewhere. The infamous struggle to transport Dangote's equipment from Lagos port to its site a journey within the same state exposes the impracticality of using other ports, which lack the draft, equipment, and connected heavy haul road networks.


This creates a vicious cycle where investors, seeking the path of least resistance and lowest risk, funnel all major projects through Lagos, inevitably choking the city.

mactoni91:
Refinery wey Omo oni le go still tell owner to go back to their village

See myopic mindset shame.

Great100000:
Source: https://nairametrics.com/2025/12/11/lagos-set-for-second-private-refinery-as-government-confirms-new-investor-talks/

AlphaTaikun:
I largely agree with your post especially the FIRST paragraph BUT disagree with the section where you indicated that Eko Atlantic City is one of the projects responsible which have led to flooding in Lagos State. This is incorrect and a rehash of existing false rumors online and offline. I will explain why.


First off, the horrendous flooding of Victoria Island and contiguous areas back in the late 1990s right into the 2000s is primarily as a result of a rise of sea water (ocean water levels) due to climate change and the melting of the polar ice regions of the North Pole and South Pole.

I remember back in the 1990s how the then Bar Beach was overan by rising flood waters and if Victoria Island had been totally buried underwater or submerged like the legendary Continent of Atlantis, then the nearby Ikoyi Island too would have been submerged in NO time.

Therefore, the brilliant Public-Private partnership from the early 2000s between the Lagos State Government and the Lebanese-Nigerian-owned Chagoury Group to RECLAIM the ORIGINAL land that EXISTED there several decades ago.


For many who don't know, where Eko Atlantic City is today was ORIGINALLY dry land back in the 1950s and 1960s, etc, and that is that area where the ORIGINAL indigenes of Iruland (the original Yoruba name for Victoria Island) settled and lived. The constant strong ocean waves kept on eroding the beach front and the soil kept sinking to the bottom of the sea. So, it was that same soil on the sea bed that Chagoury Group's construction arm dredged right back up from the sea floor to refill the original land area that had been lost. So, it's NOT that they went to bring sand from another part of Lagos to sandfill that location. That was the saving grace for Victoria Island and the contiguous areas otherwise, there won't be a Victoria Island today.

However, besides Eko Atlantic City, I totally agree with you that in other locations if Lagos State such as Victoria Island Extension (the former Maroko slum settlement demolished in 1990 by the Military Government of Lagos State), Banana Island and Lekki Phase 1 and 2 located on the Lekki Peninsula, parts of Isheri Schemes (which straddle both sides of Lagos and Ogun States) to mention a few, the careless sandfilling of those places from the 1990s blocked the natural water outlets from the creeks into the lagoon and ocean. It was a highly IRRESPONSIBLE thing that people did just because they were desperate to live on Victoria Island or on live in the Lekki Peninsula near posh estates.

lilsmart:
This is the first genuine intellectual debate this forum has seen,and I want to thank you for that.

Great100000:
Source: https://nairametrics.com/2025/12/11/lagos-set-for-second-private-refinery-as-government-confirms-new-investor-talks/

SonOfDSoil01:
what as all the incoherent gibberish got to do with that fact that Lagos and by extension Sw is still the safest region for investment? Aside from Lagos, Ogun is the most industrialised state, so you think it is just by coincidence that most investors chose to cite their investments in Ogun and also Ibadan which host a lot of industries? I asked a question, if it is not about safety and conducive environment, then why is Sw still attracting investors and not other region? Pls I don’t have time for senseless arguments this afternoon so avoid me and your nonsense gibberish

Tjra:
Lagos state government always wooing investors. This is what our governors in Southeast should be doing.

Lets bring production to the east. Abia state has the potential to be the factory of Africa. There is stable power there now.

We have what it takes.

mactoni91:
Refinery wey Omo oni le go still tell owner to go back to their village

autoez:
More industries, more jobs, more income. I hope we all experience a better Nigeria in our Era

AlphaTaikun:
@lilsmart
My pleasure... I thank you too for the insights.

Cheers.

lilsmart:
My core of my argument isn't to dismiss the Southwest's successes but to place them in a national context. The principle is this just as no single state can make a country, no one region can solely sustain a nation.

Lagos was indeed developed by people generations of them from every corner of Nigeria and beyond. Its safety for investment is built on

SonOfDSoil01:
🤣🤣🤣otondo, continue deflecting…..we talking about the reasons investors chose Lagos and by extension Sw as their first choice of destination and here you yapping about how other nationalities contributed to it development….if the youbas were no peaceful and accommodating in nature will there be room for development or would other ethnic nationalities find it attractive to migrate to? And in my submission, I didn’t single out just Lagos but the entire SW region which is the most industrialised region of the country. You clowns just love to play down the contribution of the Yorubas in making their region what it is today and always quick to attribute it to the contribution of every other ethnic nationalities forgetting that Lagos was already more developed and far ahead of Nigeria before the amalgamation of Lagos colony and Nigeria. My point still remains that, due to the peace loving nature and accommodating nature of Yorubas, which as made the Sw region safe and conducive for investment, no one would ever thought of investment in yorubaland. When you make your region safe and peaceful, investors will come and invest their money and that’s is fact. So quit deflecting and alluding the success of Sw to others shikena

SonOfDSoil01:
dindinrin, so Sw don’t have oil? Ondo state alone produce more crude oil than you produce in your entire 5plot of unproductive land….Lagos and Ogun also have oil reserves but empty noise makers will be here chest beating about their 2 cup of palm oil😂😂😂

Great100000:
Source: https://nairametrics.com/2025/12/11/lagos-set-for-second-private-refinery-as-government-confirms-new-investor-talks/