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ahmedio2017:
Elon is not black he's not from Africa by race.

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Ebubu6:
Give it 10 years of deportation and America will start importing Blacks again.

The countries they desire can't populate them enough because they don't reproduce children and their own America's birth rate can't sustain their large country or challenge rivals like India and China with billions in population.

Give it 15 years maximum they'd revert again to pro immigration policies

Well, based on the analysis and rhetoric nowadays, I really doubt White Americans want to see an increased Black population in the country. But aside from India, where else will the numbers come from if not Black Africa?

The next decade would be interesting to witness.

Saladdin:
Outstanding! One question please, what do you think about the entrepreneurship/investor visa program particularly for Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Turkey etc.
Also, why is it not being explored by comfortable Nigerians? Since it's clear that most visa programs now are targeted at scooping the best talents across countries?

Any Nigerian who can afford at least $400K (Turkey's price) using his/her assets isn't opting for Turkey. Australia/New Zealand are too far from Africa with few Black people. The holy grail is the United States and, to an extent, Canada. The UK Innovation visa got a lot of applications from Nigerians.

RodgersAkpafu:
You are still saying this wrong thing by skewing it towards women
Like I told u before, it takes two to tango

Most Men AND Women do not want to have large families here in Europe and other more advanced places of the world

Its not just the women
Haven't you heard of the MGTOW movement?

Since we last spoke on this topic, I causally ask men of all races that I could without sounding weird stylishly how many kids they want, and it has always been between 0-3 max

The lifestyle metamorphosis has made Gen Z and below see many kids as a burden

I agree that men are involved, but women, now highly educated and financially empowered, hold the aces more than men.

fbabs:
Examples of solid skills

Great question.
Here are some solid, in-demand skills that make japa easier in 2025, based on current shortage lists for Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, and similar spots.

These are backed by official immigration data and job reports

Focus on getting certified experience (2–5 years) and IELTS 7.0+ to boost ur chances.

Healthcare
• Registered nurses and healthcare assistants (e.g., Canada’s NOC 31301, UK’s Immigration Salary List). Shortages everywhere due to aging populations—PR in 6–12 months via Express Entry or Skilled Worker visas.

Tech & IT
• Software developers/full-stack engineers (Python, Java, cloud like AWS).
• Data scientists/analysts (SQL, machine learning).
• Cybersecurity specialists (ethical hacking, network security). These top Express Entry draws in Canada/Australia and get EU Blue Cards in Germany fast.

Engineering
• Civil/structural engineers (infrastructure booms in Australia/Germany).
• Mechanical/electrical engineers (renewable energy focus). Points-tested visas love these—Australia’s SID visa processes in weeks with a job offer.

Skilled Trades
• Electricians and plumbers (high demand in UK/Australia for construction).
• Welders/carpenters (Canada’s PNPs target them for regional roles). No degree needed, just trade certs—faster than white-collar in some provinces.

Other Hot Ones
• Accountants/financial analysts (Canada’s Express Entry prioritizes them).
• Teachers (secondary/STEM, UK’s shortage list).

These skills align with global needs like green energy, digital growth, and healthcare crises.
If u have one, polish ur resume and apply.

Doors are still open for quality over quantity.

What’s ur skill set?

Saladdin:
Outstanding! One question please, what do you think about the entrepreneurship/investor visa program particularly for Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Turkey etc.

Also, why is it not being explored by comfortable Nigerians? Since it's clear that most visa programs now are targeted at scooping the best talents across countries?

Thanks for the kind words and the solid question!

Entrepreneur and investor visas are some of the best options right now for Nigerians who already have money or a strong business idea. They give faster PR or citizenship, and many allow u to bring ur family. Here’s a simple breakdown for 2025:

• Canada (Start-up Visa): Perfect if u have an innovative business (tech, fintech, health app, etc.). U need support from a Canadian investor or incubator (they invest small or nothing). No big money required from u, just a good plan. Leads to PR in 2–3 years. Many Nigerians are using this quietly.

• UK (Innovator Founder Visa): For people with a new or scalable business idea. U need endorsement from an approved body. No minimum investment, but u must show the business is real and viable. Leads to permanent residence in 3 years.

• Australia (National Innovation Visa – new in 2025): Replaces the old business visa. For exceptional entrepreneurs with proven track record. Points-based, invites only the very best. High chance of PR.

• New Zealand (Active Investor Visa): Simple and sweet. Invest NZD 5 million (about ₦3 billion) in growth businesses or NZD 10 million in safer options. Very low stay requirement (few weeks per year). PR after 3–5 years.

• Turkey (Citizenship by Investment): The fastest. Invest $400,000 in property or $500,000 in business/bank. Get Turkish passport in 6–8 months. Visa-free to 120 countries and easy access to US E-2 visa later. Many wealthy Nigerians love this one.

Why aren’t more “comfortable” Nigerians using these?
1 Most rich Nigerians prefer quick passport programs (like Turkey, Caribbean) for travel freedom, not for moving abroad to run a business.
2 These visas require real business activity and proof that ur money is clean. Many people fear “source of funds” questions.
3 Awareness is low. Agents push student or skilled worker routes more because they’re easier to sell to middle-class people.
4 Some just want the family to school abroad, not to start a new business in cold weather.

But for serious business people, these visas are gold. If u have the funds or a strong idea, start with Canada or Turkey as they’re the most friendly right now.

grandstar:
That Wall Street guy is an idiot. i used to have a paid X subscription.

Why would Japs or South Koreans want to emigrate to the US when they are very comfortable at home.

However, if Japan's economy continues in its current trajectory, and the Yen drops to like $1- Yen 300 in 20 years time, perhaps that might start.

Japanese won't be senseless to allow their currency to drop to that level. They know what it means to be an economic powerhouse.

Caseless:
Japanese won't be senseless to allow their currency to drop to that level. They know what it means to be an economic powerhouse.

It isn't what they liked or don't like. Their economy is yet to recover from the busting of the economic bubble of the late 20th century.

They were the third richest country in the world. They are now 4th after Germany.

When you consider that Japan has 123m people and Germany 83m, it is indicative of a huge problem.

ahmedio2017:
Stay and build your country.

You and who dey build am?

grandstar:
That Wall Street guy is an idiot. i used to have a paid X subscription.

Why would Japs or South Koreans want to emigrate to the US when they are very comfortable at home.

However, if Japan's economy continues in its current trajectory, and the Yen drops to like $1- Yen 300 in 20 years time, perhaps that might start.

Japanese and Koreans have birth rates below replacement levels, they don't have a youth population to export. That's the current reason for their low emigration levels.

Nigeria has a population that has doubled every 25 years for the past 75 years, a recipe for disaster.

infogenius:
Thanks for the kind words and the solid question!

Entrepreneur and investor visas are some of the best options right now for Nigerians who already have money or a strong business idea. They give faster PR or citizenship, and many allow u to bring ur family. Here’s a simple breakdown for 2025:

• Canada (Start-up Visa): Perfect if u have an innovative business (tech, fintech, health app, etc.). U need support from a Canadian investor or incubator (they invest small or nothing). No big money required from u, just a good plan. Leads to PR in 2–3 years. Many Nigerians are using this quietly.

• UK (Innovator Founder Visa): For people with a new or scalable business idea. U need endorsement from an approved body. No minimum investment, but u must show the business is real and viable. Leads to permanent residence in 3 years.

• Australia (National Innovation Visa – new in 2025): Replaces the old business visa. For exceptional entrepreneurs with proven track record. Points-based, invites only the very best. High chance of PR.

• New Zealand (Active Investor Visa): Simple and sweet. Invest NZD 5 million (about ₦3 billion) in growth businesses or NZD 10 million in safer options. Very low stay requirement (few weeks per year). PR after 3–5 years.

• Turkey (Citizenship by Investment): The fastest. Invest $400,000 in property or $500,000 in business/bank. Get Turkish passport in 6–8 months. Visa-free to 120 countries and easy access to US E-2 visa later. Many wealthy Nigerians love this one.

Why aren’t more “comfortable” Nigerians using these?
1 Most rich Nigerians prefer quick passport programs (like Turkey, Caribbean) for travel freedom, not for moving abroad to run a business.
2 These visas require real business activity and proof that ur money is clean. Many people fear “source of funds” questions.
3 Awareness is low. Agents push student or skilled worker routes more because they’re easier to sell to middle-class people.
4 Some just want the family to school abroad, not to start a new business in cold weather.

But for serious business people, these visas are gold. If u have the funds or a strong idea, start with Canada or Turkey as they’re the most friendly right now.

There's hardly any checks done on proof of funds for the Carribbean nations citizens. I don't know about Turkey but I'd be surpised if it was in any way stringent since it's boing abused by Russians much like Malta and Cyprus before it were.

ahmedio2017:
Elon is not black he's not from Africa by race.

This statement seems like everyone from Africa must be black? Take it or leave it, his origin is from South Africa not America but he japa when he had the opportunity.
Now he is the richest man.

If you are a Christian, you must have read in the Bible where God told Abraham: 'leave your father's land I will take you to a place where there is milk and honey.'

My point is if anywhere is hindering your progress and you have the opportunity to leave , abeg leave.

Stay back to build which country? Country wen dey kill person talent

Ezyp:
This statement seems like everyone from Africa must be black? Take it or leave it, his origin is from South Africa not America but he japa when he had the opportunity.
Now he is the richest man.

If you are a Christian, you must have read in the Bible where God told Abraham: 'leave your father's land I will take you to a place where there is milk and honey.'

My point is if anywhere is hindering your progress and you have the opportunity to leave , abeg leave.

Stay back to build which country? Country wen dey kill person talent

I understand you, we all have sacrifice to make, where you are running to some people made that sacrifice.

Let's stay back and make that sacrifice. It is about few time, Nigeria shall be great..... You are not Abraham God knows the purpose why you are born in Nigeria....

grandstar:
It isn't what they liked or don't like. Their economy is yet to recover from the busting of the economic bubble of the late 20th century.

They were the third richest country in the world. They are now 4th after Germany.

When you consider that Japan has 123m people and Germany 83m, it is indicative of a huge problem.

The way Germany is going with the kind of men they elect after Angela Merkel - men who can't stand on their own, but follow everything the US says - they even traded access to cheap Russian gas that powers their economy just to please america. Looking at this, I believe germany would fall further down soon. They're struggling. Japan is more pragmatic with their economic policies.

Ezyp:
This statement seems like everyone from Africa must be black? Take it or leave it, his origin is from South Africa not America but he japa when he had the opportunity.
Now he is the richest man.

If you are a Christian, you must have read in the Bible where God told Abraham: 'leave your father's land I will take you to a place where there is milk and honey.'

My point is if anywhere is hindering your progress and you have the opportunity to leave , abeg leave.

Stay back to build which country? Country wen dey kill person talent

You don't understand what race is all about Elon musk is white and not black so he's not African.

ahmedio2017:
You don't understand what race is all about Elon musk is white and not black so he's not African.

Wait is it now about race or one's country? Elon is a South African. Take or leave it. Forget skin color. People from Morocco, Egypt etc. Are their skin black? Aren't they Africans?

Elon saw the opportunity to japa and he did. He later became an American citizen now billionaire. South Africa as a country would have limited his dreams.

Same thing about Nikola Tesla. He japa from his country to America when the opportunity came and today we are all enjoying alternating current (AC). If he had that mentality of stay back and build my country, probably AC would never see the light of the day.

This is the hard truth.

Ezyp:
Wait is it now about race or one's country? Elon is a South African. Take or leave it. Forget skin color. People from Morocco, Egypt etc. Are their skin black? Aren't they Africans?

Elon saw the opportunity to japa and he did. He later became an American citizen now billionaire. South Africa as a country would have limited his dreams.

Same thing about Nikola Tesla. He japa from his country to America when the opportunity came and today we are all enjoying alternating current (AC). If he had that mentality of stay back and build my country, probably AC would never see the light of the day.

This is the hard truth.

North Africans are Arabs descendants, politically they are Africans, but culturally they are Arabs descendants... Racially we are blacks Elon is white descendant...

Caseless:
The way Germany is going with the kind of men they elect after Angela Merkel - men who can't stand on their own, but follow everything the US says - they even traded access to cheap Russian gas that powers their economy just to please america. Looking at this, I believe germany would fall further down soon. They're struggling. Japan is more pragmatic with their economic policies.

Dependence on Russian gas was a strategic error from the Germans
That has in part been the major source of finance for the Russians in their misadventures in Ukraine

It was this gas thing that made Merkel do "baji baji" that made the Russians seize crimea....

The sooner the Europeans wean themselves of Russian gas, the better for them

ahmedio2017:
North Africans are Arabs descendants, politically they are Africans, but culturally they are Arabs descendants... Racially we are blacks Elon is white descendant...

Again the talk is not about race or skin color. Elon is a South African. South Africa is in Africa. With all he talents, he for stay back build South Africa na....

He saw opportunity to japa and he did. Today he the richest man because he was in a place where talent has value.

Nicola Tesla from Croatia japa to America when the opportunity came. He for stay back build he country na...

Instead of you to dey reason how you wan take contribute to the world at large, na Nigeria you wan build.

As that country dey, does it look like it's ready for building?