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Most poor people don't work as hard as rich people

funsho75:
Most poor people don't work as hard as rich people

I disagree. A lot of poor people work extremely hard, just not in jobs that scale. The difference is often opportunity, skills, and access, not effort alone.

Fharahyiola:
I disagree. A lot of poor people work extremely hard, just not in jobs that scale. The difference is often opportunity, skills, and access, not effort alone.

Let us bricklayer as example...

A bricklayer come to work, work from morning till night and go back home.


Then a site engineer come in the morning to the site, supervise 3 other site attend meeting


Then still go back home think overnight about the designs, make corrections etc.


To everyone on the outside always think bricklayer are working harder
But if you break down you will realise they are just like normal 9 to 5 and that is all

funsho75:
Let us bricklayer as example...

A bricklayer come to work, work from morning till night and go back home.


Then a site engineer come in the morning to the site, supervise 3 other site attend meeting


Then still go back home think overnight about the designs, make corrections etc.


To everyone on the outside always think bricklayer are working harder
But if you break down you will realise they are just like normal 9 to 5 and that is all

I get your point, but I still think the issue isn’t who works harder but how value is structured.

A bricklayer may work fixed hours, but the work is physically demanding, risky, and often underpaid. The site engineer’s work is more mental and strategic, yes but that doesn’t automatically mean the bricklayer isn’t working just as hard.

The real difference is leverage, skills, and decision-making power, not effort. Society tends to reward work that scales and controls outcomes more than labour, even when labour is tougher.

So it’s not “hard work vs smart work” .
it’s access, training, and opportunity that separate incomes.

At times the difference lies in upbringing, community, change in environment, meeting the right persons, doing away with scarcity mindset and adopting surplus mentality and becoming a person of value.

ayoncox:
At times the difference lies in upbringing, community, change in environment, meeting the right persons, doing away with scarcity mindset and adopting surplus mentality and becoming a person of value.

You made a solid point. Upbringing and environment definitely shape exposure and confidence. But even beyond mindset, structure matters. Two people can adopt a surplus mentality, yet if one has access to better networks, capital, or training, their results will likely differ.
So yes, mindset is powerful but opportunity and access amplify it.

Fharahyiola:
You made a solid point. Upbringing and environment definitely shape exposure and confidence. But even beyond mindset, structure matters. Two people can adopt a surplus mentality, yet if one has access to better networks, capital, or training, their results will likely differ.
So yes, mindset is powerful but opportunity and access amplify it.

Talents are universal, opportunities are not

ayoncox:
Talents are universal, opportunities are not

True. Talent is everywhere. Opportunity isn’t. That gap is what creates the income difference not just effort.