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doffman:
Did I lie , no be missionary colonised your people and replaced you guys values with Pauline law ?

Come and learn o

Omi eran,

Missionaries are not colonial masters seh, sebi you go school nau and you studied about both.

Bobo, na missionaries gave you the opportunity to read and write in English so thank dem for what dey brought for you and your generation

honesttalk21:
This is your unsubstantiated claim. No, Prophet Muhammad pbuh didn’t engage in battles because people rejected his message. The fighting took place in situations of persecution, expulsion against Muslims, or during armed conflicts. The Qur’an clearly prohibits forcing anyone into religion and instructs that hostilities should cease when the fighting stops. Mixing up historical warfare with the idea of forced conversion distorts both the scriptures and the actual history.

Your anobi paa Abdallah ibn Sa‘ad, because he became and apostate (left Islam) and fled to Mecca. He also claimed that he was the one who wrote certain verses of the Qur'an and started to mock Muhammad, which made him angry


1. Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9[135]

AntiisIam:
Your anobi paa Abdallah ibn Sa‘ad, because he became and apostate (left Islam) and fled to Mecca. He also claimed that he was the one who wrote certain verses of the Qur'an and started to mock Muhammad, which made him angry


1. Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9[135]

The story of Abdullah ibn Saʿd ibn Abi Sarh often comes up in discussions about Islamic intolerance towards apostasy. But if you dig a little deeper, you'll find a much more intricate tale that highlights themes of justice and mercy. Initially, Ibn Saʿd served as a scribe for the Qur'anic revelations, but during a time of conflict, he switched sides to the Quraysh, spreading falsehoods about the Prophet Muhammad pbuh's revelations in an effort to weaken the Muslim community.

When Makkah fell to the Muslims in 630 CE, a broad forgiveness was announced, but people like Abdullah were left out not just for their change of heart but for their acts of treason against the state. Still, his foster brother, Uthman ibn Affan, stepped in to advocate for him, which led the Prophet pbuh to forgive him and welcome him back into the fold. Eventually, Ibn Saʿd went on to become the governor of Egypt, showcasing his full reintegration.

This incident highlights how intertwined religious and political identities were in 7th-century Arabia. While no society tolerates betrayal in wartime, the Prophet pbuh's readiness to forgive illustrates the core principle of mercy in Islam. In the end, this case serves as a poignant reminder of the delicate balance between personal beliefs and public responsibility, especially in times of conflict.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Abd-Allah-ibn-Sad-ibn-Abi-Sarh

honesttalk21:
The story of Abdullah ibn Saʿd ibn Abi Sarh often comes up in discussions about Islamic intolerance towards apostasy. But if you dig a little deeper, you'll find a much more intricate tale that highlights themes of justice and mercy. Initially, Ibn Saʿd served as a scribe for the Qur'anic revelations, but during a time of conflict, he switched sides to the Quraysh, spreading falsehoods about the Prophet Muhammad pbuh's revelations in an effort to weaken the Muslim community.

When Makkah fell to the Muslims in 630 CE, a broad forgiveness was announced, but people like Abdullah were left out not just for their change of heart but for their acts of treason against the state. Still, his foster brother, Uthman ibn Affan, stepped in to advocate for him, which led the Prophet pbuh to forgive him and welcome him back into the fold. Eventually, Ibn Saʿd went on to become the governor of Egypt, showcasing his full reintegration.

This incident highlights how intertwined religious and political identities were in 7th-century Arabia. While no society tolerates betrayal in wartime, the Prophet pbuh's readiness to forgive illustrates the core principle of mercy in Islam. In the end, this case serves as a poignant reminder of the delicate balance between personal beliefs and public responsibility, especially in times of conflict.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Abd-Allah-ibn-Sad-ibn-Abi-Sarh

DJ YK, Prof of taqqiya

Antiislaam:
DJ YK, Prof of taqqiya

Provide alternative evidence and prove what Brittanica records that he wasn't killed for apostasy false.

honesttalk21:
Provide alternative evidence and prove what Brittanica records that he wasn't killed for apostasy false.

Is Britannica your own islamic hoely book?


1. Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9

AntiisIam:
Omi eran,

Missionaries are not colonial masters seh, sebi you go school nau and you studied about both.

Bobo, na missionaries gave you the opportunity to read and write in English so thank dem for what dey brought for you and your generation

😀😀 your colonial master which religion did they practice ?


Your missionary , which religion did they practice ?


Shioor !


Go use English to collect money in bank nah .

F.ck your English . Tueeeeh

dofman:
😀😀 your colonial master which religion did they practice ?


Your missionary , which religion did they practice ?


Shioor !


Go use English to collect money in bank nah .

F.ck your English . Tueeeeh

Sule,

You should be proud of colonial masters for giving Nigeria independence and thank missionary that taught you how to read and write in English.. Mi ri wipe o nka e lara nii

Antiislaam:
Sule,

You should be proud of colonial masters for giving Nigeria independence and thank missionary that taught you how to read and write in English.. Mi ri wipe o nka e lara nii

Just see how I finished you off as usual ahaaaa

Ani seh , which religion are they doing ?


You are finished in every thread . Lobatan

doffman:
Just see how I finished you off as usual ahaaaa

Ani seh , which religion are they doing ?


You are finished in every thread . Lobatan

Sule,

You want me to tell you Christianity abi when I've told you that Christianity is not a religion.

Omi eran, thank these people that grant your forefathers independence and opportunity to be able to read and write in English. Boya ti o ba nka e lara, go IRAN, AFGHANISTAN or PAKISTAN lobatan

Antiislaam:
Is Britannica your own islamic hoely book?


1. Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9

Is it not an independent neutral record?

The hadiths found in Sunan Abu Dawud 4359 and 2683 show that the punishment for apostasy goes beyond just a shift in belief; it’s deeply tied to themes of rebellion, betrayal, and breaking away from the community. When someone abandons his religion and separates from the community, it’s a clear sign of apostasy, which is seen as a public defection, a rebellion, or even an alignment with opposing forces, especially during a time when religion and state were tightly intertwined.

In the case of Abdullah ibn Saʿd ibn Abu Sarh, his actions were seen as treasonous, which led to his initial condemnation. However, the Prophet Muhammad pbuh eventually accepted his repentance and remorse, demonstrating that execution isn’t an automatic response. Historically, the rulings on apostasy have often been more about political and security concerns than divine commands. The Qur'an itself underscores the importance of freedom of belief and leaves the final judgment to God, clearly stating that there should be no compulsion in religion.

AntiisIam:
Sule,

You want me to tell you Christianity abi when I've told you that Christianity is not a religion.

Omi eran, thank these people that grant your forefathers independence and opportunity to be able to read and write in English. Boya ti o ba nka e lara, go IRAN, AFGHANISTAN or PAKISTAN lobatan

😀😀😀😀 just see how naive you are chai .

Then why are you practicing Christianity since you know it is not a religion preached by Jesus .

You guys have finished ✔️

doffman:
😀😀😀😀 just see how naive you are chai .

Then why are you practicing Christianity since you know it is not a religion preached by Jesus .

You guys have finished ✔️

Sule,

So to be like someone according to your anobi means religion abi?

Eni so e di bayi koni mu water mo abi bawo

honesttalk21:
Is it not an independent neutral record?

The hadiths found in Sunan Abu Dawud 4359 and 2683 show that the punishment for apostasy goes beyond just a shift in belief; it’s deeply tied to themes of rebellion, betrayal, and breaking away from the community. When someone abandons his religion and separates from the community, it’s a clear sign of apostasy, which is seen as a public defection, a rebellion, or even an alignment with opposing forces, especially during a time when religion and state were tightly intertwined.

In the case of Abdullah ibn Saʿd ibn Abu Sarh, his actions were seen as treasonous, which led to his initial condemnation. However, the Prophet Muhammad pbuh eventually accepted his repentance and remorse, demonstrating that execution isn’t an automatic response. Historically, the rulings on apostasy have often been more about political and security concerns than divine commands. The Qur'an itself underscores the importance of freedom of belief and leaves the final judgment to God, clearly stating that there should be no compulsion in religion.

Did you mean your own books you called sacred are not independent records just because you want to cover your face in shame?

Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9

Antiislaam:
Did you mean your own books you called sacred are not independent records just because you want to cover your face in shame?

Sunan Abu Dawud 4359, Sunan Abu Dawud 2683

2. Ibn Hisham & Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah

3. Al-Tabari, History Vol.9

Independent of the Islamic literature.


Mentioning titles without text content is meaningless. Do well to show what you say clearly.

Nothing in the hadith indicate anyone was killed. Do well to put the specific text in your reference numbered 2 or 3 unless you are deliberately making noise as. ..

AntiisIam:
Sule,

So to be like someone according to your anobi means religion abi?

Eni so e di bayi koni mu water mo abi bawo

Jesus never asked you to do Christmas , you do .

Jesus never asked you to worship in church dancing and clapping even on Sunday , you dance skelebe in church

How are you Christ like nah ?


You are Pauline like for sure ✔️

doffman:
Jesus never asked you to do Christmas , you do .

Jesus never asked you to worship in church dancing and clapping even on Sunday , you dance skelebe in church

How are you Christ like nah ?


You are Pauline like for sure ✔️

Boya ni o mo meaning Christmas

We are doing Christmas in celebrating his birth as he said to be remembering this in Luke 22:19

O nka e lara nii that anobi e ko worth nkan ti e le ma celebrate pelu awon iwa owo e

Jesus Christ worshipped the father in Synagogue

He observed the Sabbath day

He sings, etc

All these and many more ni mi ti so fun times without numbered but you can't do without repeating same thing everytime, all thanks to Islam-VIRGINS that hold the remote of your repeatition button

honesttalk21:
Independent of the Islamic literature.


Mentioning titles without text content is meaningless. Do well to show what you say clearly.

Nothing in the hadith indicate anyone was killed. Do well to put the specific text in your reference numbered 2 or 3 unless you are deliberately making noise as. ..

Are you sure you know what you are saying?

Antiislaam:
Are you sure you know what you are saying?

Attaching images says nothing. Identify your claims specifically.

honesttalk21:
Attaching images says nothing. Identify your claims specifically.

Is that not your assume hoely book (hadith) I attached?

Antiislaam:
Is that not your assume hoely book (hadith) I attached?

The Quran is the divine holy book not the hadith. In any case what exactly is it about what you screen shot about the hadith to support your stance? This is simply what I ask you.

Antiislaam:
Boya ni o mo meaning Christmas

We are doing Christmas in celebrating his birth as he said to be remembering this in Luke 22:19

O nka e lara nii that anobi e ko worth nkan ti e le ma celebrate pelu awon iwa owo e

Jesus Christ worshipped the father in Synagogue

He observed the Sabbath day

He sings, etc

All these and many more ni mi ti so fun times without numbered but you can't do without repeating same thing everytime, all thanks to Islam-VIRGINS that hold the remote of your repeatition button

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 pagan , why your life be like this .

So you don’t celebrate the birth again .

How that verse claimed Christmas nah ahaa



And beside . Which song and dance Jesus did o .

So na sabbath and not Sunday ?


You are finished seh

doffman:
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 pagan , why your life be like this .

So you don’t celebrate the birth again .

How that verse claimed Christmas nah ahaa



And beside . Which song and dance Jesus did o .

So na sabbath and not Sunday ?


You are finished seh

Christmas means Christ birth, we celebrate both his birth and his resurrection. Sule ti o nba ka e lara, sebi odo wa ni Libya nibi ti o wa over there? Do the needful dakun

The answer to your question is Jesus Christ sings hymns, you will still repeat the same question again, no be you

What is sabbath and what is Sunday?

Shey na Gregorian calendar dem dey use in those days nii? Sule, ronu deeply before talking

Ebira, finally finally, ti e ti ..... pari e

honesttalk21:
The Quran is the divine holy book not the hadith. In any case what exactly is it about what you screen shot about the hadith to support your stance? This is simply what I ask you.

Uhmmmm,

doffman dofman shey you hear wetin dis boy said. So Hadith is out of it, you shouldn't rely on Hadith right?

Sule doffman Expanse2020, are you in support or against what he said

honesttalk21:
The Quran is the divine holy book not the hadith. In any case what exactly is it about what you screen shot about the hadith to support your stance? This is simply what I ask you.

Actually I want to make it softer for you but you are pushing me to expose more


Sahih al-Bukhari 9:89:271

A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle."


Sahih al-Bukhari 4:56:814

There was a Christian who became Muslim and read the Baqarah and the Al Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. He then went over to Christianity again, and he used to say, Muhammad does not know anything except what I wrote for him. Then Allah caused him to die and they buried him.


For more:
Sahih al-Bukhari 9:83:17

Antiislaam:
Uhmmmm,

doffman dofman shey you hear wetin dis boy said. So Hadith is out of it, you shouldn't rely on Hadith right?

Sule doffman Expanse2020, are you in support or against what he said

So you failed to understand the simple sentences he wrote...
Chaii English language na big barrier for you oo

Antiislaam:
Actually I want to make it softer for you but you are pushing me to expose more


Sahih al-Bukhari 9:89:271

A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle."


Sahih al-Bukhari 4:56:814

There was a Christian who became Muslim and read the Baqarah and the Al Imran, and he used to write for the Prophet. He then went over to Christianity again, and he used to say, Muhammad does not know anything except what I wrote for him. Then Allah caused him to die and they buried him.


For more:
Sahih al-Bukhari 9:83:17

Before deviations first clarify the relevance of what you started with and attached pictures of. Otherwise accept the absence of substance in your statement and be quiet on things you don't understand

AntiisIam:
Christmas means Christ birth, we celebrate both his birth and his resurrection. Sule ti o nba ka e lara, sebi odo wa ni Libya nibi ti o wa over there? Do the needful dakun

The answer to your question is Jesus Christ sings hymns, you will still repeat the same question again, no be you

What is sabbath and what is Sunday?

Shey na Gregorian calendar dem dey use in those days nii? Sule, ronu deeply before talking

Ebira, finally finally, ti e ti ..... pari e

I only asked you . Did Jesus ever tell you that you should celebrate his birth day ?


Is Jesus truly born on december 15 , the day of sun pagan god ?


And beside do you know more than your pastor in church who says Christmas is not biblical 😀