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The man Fela called "animal in crazeman skin" was later brought back by APC to wreck Nigeria's economy. He warned us.

doggedfighter:
How can this be rivalry when this guy clearly said he doesn't understand Igbo yet his music appeals to him. The guy you are attacking may even be from same region as you. Your brother

And he said " those guys made music" which may even include all these people you listed.

But in your haste to launch tribal attack you missed the guy's point.

Let's take this attacks easy.

Take time to read people's post and make effort to understand them.

It's a small world still !

You dey mind am? him brain dey shaaakee I am yoruba but don't even get the hype about king sunny ade's songs?or maybe I am weird same thing with ayinla omowura can't even stand his music for 10 minutes I will feel nauseated I can still listen to most barrister songs though.

only Ebenezer obey highlife music,i could listen to over and over again I still rate ebenezer obey and oliver de coque above all those mentioned up there sha,the latter being that I don't even understand Igbo maybe the reason why I am fascinated!

ultraviolet27:
You dey mind am? him brain dey shaaakee I am yoruba but don't even get the hype about king sunny ade's songs?or maybe I am weird same thing with ayinla omowura can't even stand his music for 10 minutes I will feel nauseated I can still listen to most barrister songs though.

only Ebenezer obey highlife music,i could listen to over and over again I still rate ebenezer obey and oliver de coque above all those mentioned up there sha,the latter being that I don't even understand Igbo maybe the reason why I am fascinated!

Thanks babe for being open minded.😚

Kemetian:
Small boy talking rubbish.

Fela is a great legend because of the totality of the man. But he was simply not that good at composing songs and he knew it, which is why most of any of his songs is instrumentals. Thank God for edit, that's the only way I listen to his songs - I edit out all the instrumentals!
If you want song composition of that era listen to people like Obey

You are contradicting yourself, and obviously you didn't get the insight i was trying to pass.

Anyway, i appreciate.

DiarisGodoo:
How dare you compare Tupac to Fela musically. Fela was simply not that good at composing songs. I never said he doesn't deserve to be celebrated. He deserves even more - WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE TOTALITY OF THE MAN!
But if you say only music the man was simply not that good and he probably knew it hence 95% of his songs were instrumentals. And you are comparing that to someone who'd spit catchy, meaningful words for 30 minutes straight!

Okay.

Just like most people are of the popular opinion that Tupac is the originator of hip-hop rap, not knowing that many niggas has already rolled and sang hip-hop rap before tupac started. But those people are just the introducers of the genre, because it hasn't gained much recongnition then. Tupac created it by making it popular, thereby giving it a name. I hope you understand dis.

What am i trying to say...... introduction of something is just still at its preliminary stages. It has not yet been concluded or entered a full gear to establish it.

When you create something, its already viewed worldwide and has ran a good stretch. So it can then be given a name.

Just the same thing with limelight and hit song.

Limelight introduces you, while hit song solidifies your name.

And who are the people that did afro-beat before fela?
Name dem for me please?

ManOfSon:
I responded to a story where someone said he "created" it. You're now telling me that he didn't create it, he only "introduced" it. What exactly did he introduce? The five-beat sequence that I talked about? But how can someone introduce something that was already in existence before he was born? And somehow you're the master or mistress of English and of comprehension, right?

One of the most interesting things about Nigeria is that it is hands-down the only country in the world where a blind person audaciously is telling someone who sees with both eyes where the road is. You tell me you're master of both English and comprehension. However, the reality is a far cry, judging from your rambling here. So, again I don't expect you to understand i.e., comprehend the point. But I'll try. Afrobeat is not a song. It's just a sequence of five beats that is present in highlife and most traditional African indigenous music. Both highlife and these African traditional music pre-date Fela's brand of the (afro) beats which is a combination of highlife music and jazz music. What Fela created or "introduced" is this his own brand of this afrobeats. He neither created nor introduced that historical sequence of five beats that is the afrobeats itself. Make with this explanation whatever you may.

Love800:
Okay.

Just like most people are of the popular opinion that Tupac is the originator of hip-hop rap, not knowing that many niggas has already rolled and sang hip-hop rap before tupac started. But those people are just the introducers of the genre, because it hasn't gained much recongnition then. Tupac created it by making it popular, thereby giving it a name. I hope you understand dis.

What am i trying to say...... introduction of something is just still at its preliminary stages. It has not yet been concluded or entered a full gear to establish it.

When you create something, its already viewed worldwide and has ran a good stretch. So it can then be given a name.

Just the same thing with limelight and hit song.

Limelight introduces you, while hit song solidifies your name.

And who are the people that did afro-beat before fela?
Name dem for me please?

Love800:
You are contradicting yourself, and obviously you didn't get the insight i was trying to pass.

Anyway, i appreciate.

Kemetian:
FELA LIVE AT THE ZENITH, PARIS, 1984

https://www.youtbe.com/watch?v=Z7O9W0cAzs

Contradicting myself how? If you are considering purely music composition Fela was simply not that good.
Below is a masterpiece of music composition. Note how the instrumentals are seamlessly woven into the words throughout the song. Compare to Fela that will play non sequitur instrumentals for first 80% of the song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSoX5WNbT1Q?si=WhD-MN1qxoKzQPm4

Wow.

Wonderful write-up from you. I read it carefully and you made alot of sense.

But can we just say dat fela modernized it!
Like fela positioned and tweaked it(afro-beat) to another level?
Just a question though. Am not concluding anything.

Seems i will go and read about the birth(history) of these musical genres, especially this afro-beat.
Am not into music methodology or ethics, am just an ordinary observer/analyst, who knows music on surface level. Its not my professionalism. Am just a fan. Okay.

Nice one.
I appreciate.

ManOfSon:
One of the most interesting things about Nigeria is that it is hands-down the only country in the world where a blind person audaciously is telling someone who sees with both eyes where the road is. You tell me you're master of both English and comprehension. However, the reality is a far cry, judging from your rambling here. So, again I don't expect you to understand i.e., comprehend the point. But I'll try. Afrobeat is not a song. It's just a sequence of five beats that is present in highlife and most traditional African indigenous music. Both highlife and these African traditional music pre-date Fela's brand of the (afro) beats which is a combination of highlife music and jazz music. What Fela created or "introduced" is this his own brand of this afrobeats. He neither created nor introduced that historical sequence of five beats that is the afrobeats itself. Make with this explanation whatever you may.

Yea. Nice one from you. I definitely understand where you are coming from, but just wanted you to leave the practical music suggestion and see fela's view from another angle.
You are reasoning from one angle. Lets try to see it too from different dimensions.

But anyway, i can see facts in your suggestion. You are not really far from the truth.

Nice one.
I appreciate.

DiarisGodoo:
Contradicting myself how? If you are considering purely music composition Fela was simply not that good.
Below is a masterpiece of music composition. Note how the instrumentals are seamlessly woven into the words throughout the song. Compare to Fela that will play non sequitur instrumentals for first 80% of the song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSoX5WNbT1Q?si=WhD-MN1qxoKzQPm4

Love800:
Yea. Nice one from you. I definitely understand where you are coming from, but just wanted you to leave the practical music suggestion and see fela's view from another angle.
You are reasoning from one angle. Lets try to see it too from different dimensions.

But anyway, i can see facts in your suggestion. You are not really far from the truth.

Nice one.
I appreciate.

Thank you. This is misic that transcends time, place, religion, language, tribe, class, generation, nationality, morality. Even if you're a nun from the Mars you'll enjoy it and wish it never ends. But of course Fela is the greater legend as I've said before, because everything is NOT about musuc composition. Besides there being a grand activist message to his songs, there is also so much more to the man!